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Amaterasu Translations => Anime/Manga/VNs/Games/etc => Topic started by: KoiNoDensetsu on November 29, 2009, 12:54:15 am

Title: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: KoiNoDensetsu on November 29, 2009, 12:54:15 am
I'm currently trying to get through all the endings in HinataBokko. (Note "trying"...)  It's terrible.  Avoid it at all costs!  The character designs and music are cute, but the rest... bleh.  Everything is so cliche and mediocre.  At least it's short.

So what are you playing? ;)
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Jayp on November 29, 2009, 01:13:10 am
Well I listed them in the other thread already, but the ones I'm at least planning to finnish sometime soon would be:
Aoishiro
Kanon
Kazoku Keikaku
Sharin no Kuni, Himawari no Shoujo

Currently playing Sharin no Kuni. Like, right now. Somehow it's very hard to finish :P Like, you know... I'm reading it while resting my chin on my palm and idly pressing enter again and again even if something supposedly dramatic happens and I'm just waiting for it all to end... The drama is totally overdone and everything is just all kinds of meh.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: KoiNoDensetsu on November 29, 2009, 01:21:12 am
I'm surprised to here that about Sharin.  Everyone seems to love it. (then again, there are a lot of people that think Kanon and ONE are amazing as well...)  That's a little disappointing since I haven't played a visual novel that has made me think "Wow, now THIS is good!" in a while. =/
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Jayp on November 29, 2009, 01:40:41 am
The second chapter had some good moments but after that it's been fascinating.jpg if you know what I mean. The only REALLY good thing I can say about it are the voice actors as it has some of my favourites ones. Music and CG can only be described with the word "meh" though sometimes the level goes all the way to "bad". I don't like the writing much at all. It's way too preachy and overdone. I really don't like the translation either. It's like the exact opposite of what would be literal translation. Can't say much about the accuracy but they sure took some liberties translating it. Can't say I like the chapter system either, as opposed to separate routes... Well I guess that's enough for now :P

BTW Kanon IS amazing ;) Ayu and Makoto routes were anyway as I haven't played the others yet. Or at least they would have been if I hadn't spoiled myself with the anime, but I still enjoyed them.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: KoiNoDensetsu on November 29, 2009, 01:48:20 am
Hm, maybe I'll just wait until I know enough Japanese before playing it.  I really don't like when translations change the original meaning.

I just didn't like Kanon that much.  I didn't hate it, but I didn't think it was that great either.  Some of the stories had potential for the time it was released, but it got dragged on way, WAY too long in some routes (Mai) and there was too much filler. (Because of this, I liked the anime better.)  I also hated how every female character in the game was moe.  So, so moe. I don't have anything against moe (I like it, actually), but when every heroine has their own form of "uguu", it becomes hard to relate to them.  I really liked Ayu and Shiori's character though.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Moriken on November 29, 2009, 01:50:24 am
I love Sharin >..<! The drama worked for me, I liked the characters, I liked the humour (which makes me think...how exactly did the duuumb Docomo-joke get translated?), I liked the story and felt the dramatic curve to be effective...well, for me it surely was.
And I didn't feel the novel's pace to be draggy, which many said about Touka's chapter. The music actually is better than I remembered it from inside game, I listened to the soundtrack a while ago and it pieces that actually work outside of being "just there" BGM. And there are two melodies that kinda got stuck in my head.
My favorite novel so far, above Ever17 and Umineko...and Oretsuba which I'm trying to complete now.

So I'm currently reading through the last two routes of Navel's "Oretachi ni tsubasa wa nai" after putting it off for half a year. The cast (esp. the supporting cast) is great, I hope for you guys that it gets a translation since Shuffle and Soul Link got one too. And the soundtrack is very good, one of the best game attempts at doing jazz/funk type of BGM.
And I'm reading a doujin VN called Juunigatsu no shuutaku (Harvest December) by talestune. Basically 13 short stories with the same characters and romantic comedy (that actually is funny, not like in a certain President game).
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Jayp on November 29, 2009, 02:10:08 am
Hm, maybe I'll just wait until I know enough Japanese before playing it.  I really don't like when translations change the original meaning.

I just didn't like Kanon that much.  I didn't hate it, but I didn't think it was that great either.  Some of the stories had potential for the time it was released, but it got dragged on way, WAY too long in some routes (Mai) and there was too much filler. (Because of this, I liked the anime better.)  I also hated how every female character in the game was moe.  So, so moe. I don't have anything against moe (I like it, actually), but when every heroine has their own form of "uguu", it becomes hard to relate to them.  I really liked Ayu and Shiori's character though.
Hmm I found the routes I've played in Kanon rather short. It didn't drag on at all, unlike how Sharin is right now (ARGH) or the tour-that-lasted-forever in KiraKira (I totally loved it anyway, except NOT ENOUGH AKI AND ROUTE WHERE???) or... hm, can't think of anything else right now. Really bad VNs don't really drag on since I either drop them or they have some bigger problems.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: KoiNoDensetsu on November 29, 2009, 02:15:39 am
Hm, maybe I'll just wait until I know enough Japanese before playing it.  I really don't like when translations change the original meaning.

I just didn't like Kanon that much.  I didn't hate it, but I didn't think it was that great either.  Some of the stories had potential for the time it was released, but it got dragged on way, WAY too long in some routes (Mai) and there was too much filler. (Because of this, I liked the anime better.)  I also hated how every female character in the game was moe.  So, so moe. I don't have anything against moe (I like it, actually), but when every heroine has their own form of "uguu", it becomes hard to relate to them.  I really liked Ayu and Shiori's character though.
Hmm I found the routes I've played in Kanon rather short. It didn't drag on at all, unlike how Sharin is right now (ARGH) or the tour-that-lasted-forever in KiraKira (I totally loved it anyway, except NOT ENOUGH AKI AND ROUTE WHERE???) or... hm, can't think of anything else right now. Really bad VNs don't really drag on since I either drop them or they have some bigger problems.

Even though Kanon wasn't really a long game, I still felt it was too long. XD  Not the stories the girls have (except Mai's...), but the filler in between.  Most of the scenes in Kanon is stuff like Yuuichi eating lunch or other boring every-day activities.  It would have been a lot better if it just got to the point quickly like the anime did and didn't rely on filler scenes.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Jayp on November 29, 2009, 03:16:03 am
Hm, maybe I'll just wait until I know enough Japanese before playing it.  I really don't like when translations change the original meaning.

I just didn't like Kanon that much.  I didn't hate it, but I didn't think it was that great either.  Some of the stories had potential for the time it was released, but it got dragged on way, WAY too long in some routes (Mai) and there was too much filler. (Because of this, I liked the anime better.)  I also hated how every female character in the game was moe.  So, so moe. I don't have anything against moe (I like it, actually), but when every heroine has their own form of "uguu", it becomes hard to relate to them.  I really liked Ayu and Shiori's character though.
Hmm I found the routes I've played in Kanon rather short. It didn't drag on at all, unlike how Sharin is right now (ARGH) or the tour-that-lasted-forever in KiraKira (I totally loved it anyway, except NOT ENOUGH AKI AND ROUTE WHERE???) or... hm, can't think of anything else right now. Really bad VNs don't really drag on since I either drop them or they have some bigger problems.

Even though Kanon wasn't really a long game, I still felt it was too long. XD  Not the stories the girls have (except Mai's...), but the filler in between.  Most of the scenes in Kanon is stuff like Yuuichi eating lunch or other boring every-day activities.  It would have been a lot better if it just got to the point quickly like the anime did and didn't rely on filler scenes.
Weird.. I don't remember fillers like that at all. That or I just enjoy that kind of slice of life stuff so it didn't bother me. For what it's worth, I'm in chapter 4 in Sharin and I've played for 28h (and I've been playing on and off since the patch was released... almost a month ago) while 2.5 routes in Kanon took me 19h (I played it during 3 consecutive days just before Sharin patch was released).

Oh and btw, Touka's chapter made me hate her and Kyouko, and Sachi's chapter almost made me hate her and made me hate Mana... not so good. Houzuki is becoming the most likeable character :P He's probably the only sane one too. Or more like the only one cabable of rational thought. He's quite clearly the smartest one too.

I guess that would be my biggest problem with Sharin. It's not a VN about girls with problems but a VN about girls who either turn out to be angsty self-centered emo bitches or just as annoying in other ways so I end up hating everyone. Oh wait it's like they're real life teenagers oh wow that explains why I hate them! The second biggest problem would be that it's way too preachy. Morality blah how to be a better person blah etc. It's like it's trying to teach some life lessons and failing horribly while going off the charts on the level of corniness.

Ooh I can smell all the flaming that's bound to come. I'm about 86% sure that I'm being (way) too harsh but that's because I'm playing it right now and having such great trouble getting through it and it's annoying the hell out of me :P Actually I'm only playing it because I'm expecting some great conclusion (and because I want to see the ero scenes... and more Ririko!). It would take some real miracles for me to give it anything more than 7/10 though.

Eh what was this thread about again?
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: izmosmolnar on November 29, 2009, 03:22:41 am
And I'm reading a doujin VN called Juunigatsu no shuutaku (Harvest December) by talestune. Basically 13 short stories with the same characters and romantic comedy (that actually is funny, not like in a certain President game).
Oh, I've read the action doujins of talestune. I liked them quite a lot. Ludesia was one of my favorite doujins, spectacular production values and well executed VN (some parts were quite confusing though). I probably going to try reading Harvest December too once.

Playing hinatabokko now, and a certain femdom game called Mainichi ga M (awesome fetish game).
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Sundae on November 29, 2009, 03:30:42 am
About to play : Words Worth
yeah, I know, old stuff.
But sometimes you need some RPG action even for ero :P
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: yimw on November 29, 2009, 03:32:15 am
Currently playing Utawarerumono. After this my eroge backlog should be cleared (unless I decide to give Moon a shot) but I'm planning on playing Inganock, ef, Higurashi, and Symphonic Rain when the translations are released.

For the record I thought Sharin, Kanon, and ONE were all amazing.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: KoiNoDensetsu on November 29, 2009, 03:36:38 am
Hm, maybe I'll just wait until I know enough Japanese before playing it.  I really don't like when translations change the original meaning.

I just didn't like Kanon that much.  I didn't hate it, but I didn't think it was that great either.  Some of the stories had potential for the time it was released, but it got dragged on way, WAY too long in some routes (Mai) and there was too much filler. (Because of this, I liked the anime better.)  I also hated how every female character in the game was moe.  So, so moe. I don't have anything against moe (I like it, actually), but when every heroine has their own form of "uguu", it becomes hard to relate to them.  I really liked Ayu and Shiori's character though.
Hmm I found the routes I've played in Kanon rather short. It didn't drag on at all, unlike how Sharin is right now (ARGH) or the tour-that-lasted-forever in KiraKira (I totally loved it anyway, except NOT ENOUGH AKI AND ROUTE WHERE???) or... hm, can't think of anything else right now. Really bad VNs don't really drag on since I either drop them or they have some bigger problems.

Even though Kanon wasn't really a long game, I still felt it was too long. XD  Not the stories the girls have (except Mai's...), but the filler in between.  Most of the scenes in Kanon is stuff like Yuuichi eating lunch or other boring every-day activities.  It would have been a lot better if it just got to the point quickly like the anime did and didn't rely on filler scenes.
Weird.. I don't remember fillers like that at all. That or I just enjoy that kind of slice of life stuff so it didn't bother me.

Yeah, maybe I'm just not a fan of that kind of slice of life. (I do like slice of life if done well though.)  Still, I felt it went a little overboard with the slice of life/filler.

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Playing hinatabokko now, and a certain femdom game called Mainichi ga M (awesome fetish game).

I pity you with the HinataBokko situation...  I just finished another one of the dull paths which took about twenty minutes of my time.  So boring. -_-
The other game sounds sexy though. ;)
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: izmosmolnar on November 29, 2009, 03:49:20 am
I pity you with the HinataBokko situation...  I just finished another one of the dull paths which took about twenty minutes of my time.  So boring. -_-
The other game sounds sexy though. ;)
Not really. I've played many many other games I'd call boring where you are dying to just keep holding ctrl, and hinatabokko is not that kinda game. And twenty minutes of your time isn't much at all. One usually spends more time on doing random shit.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: KoiNoDensetsu on November 29, 2009, 03:59:30 am
I pity you with the HinataBokko situation...  I just finished another one of the dull paths which took about twenty minutes of my time.  So boring. -_-
The other game sounds sexy though. ;)
Not really. I've played many many other games I'd call boring where you are dying to just keep holding ctrl, and hinatabokko is not that kinda game. And twenty minutes of your time isn't much at all. One usually spends more time on doing random shit.

By "twenty minutes", I was pointing out how short the "paths" are.  It's not the worst game I've played, but it's still really bad.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: coerloyal on November 29, 2009, 04:01:39 am
Currently Trying to Finish: Sharin, Cross Channel, Family Project

hmmmm.... well, I've played HinataBokko before, and I don't even find it *ahem* boring at all. Sure, its a bit cliched (ok, ALL of it) but heck, 20 minutes of VN playing rings a lot better than doing some random shit around on the computer... no offense.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: KoiNoDensetsu on November 29, 2009, 07:01:02 am
Finished the rest of the paths in HinataBokko in one sitting.  So dull...  I'll probably move on to finally finishing Natsuiro no Sunadokei after all these years.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: coerloyal on November 29, 2009, 07:38:49 am
well... yeah... its pretty boring i guess, that goes without saying. I would never had said cliched for nothing.


Finishing: Sharin and Family Project
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: KoiNoDensetsu on November 29, 2009, 08:06:58 am
well... yeah... its pretty boring i guess, that goes without saying. I would never had said cliched for nothing.


Finishing: Sharin and Family Project

Wait, I thought you said it wasn't boring...
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Marche90 on November 29, 2009, 11:23:33 am
I agree about HinataBokko.... just finished it because I had started it.... I almost couldn't
Currently finishing the last two routes of Crescendo and about to start Princess Waltz after that-
btw, what opinions do you have about the last one?
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Jayp on November 29, 2009, 11:32:24 am
I agree about HinataBokko.... just finished it because I had started it.... I almost couldn't
Currently finishing the last two routes of Crescendo and about to start Princess Waltz after that-
btw, what opinions do you have about the last one?
It was ok I guess. Nothing special but I still managed to finish it. There's only one route though and getting all the CG was a pain. The card game was pretty fun but way too easy.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: DxS on November 29, 2009, 12:18:13 pm
Finished the rest of the paths in HinataBokko in one sitting.  So dull...  I'll probably move on to finally finishing Natsuiro no Sunadokei after all these years.

Was there a trap in HinataBokko?

I have to restart Cross Channel in about 1-2 weeks after my work load lightens, because for some weird reason all the Cross Channel files on my computer jsut up and dissappeared. After that I plan on reading Sharin no Kuni and if its finished by then after that i'm goig to play Seiken no Ignarock.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: KoiNoDensetsu on November 29, 2009, 08:10:21 pm
I agree about HinataBokko.... just finished it because I had started it.... I almost couldn't
Currently finishing the last two routes of Crescendo and about to start Princess Waltz after that-
btw, what opinions do you have about the last one?

I loved Princess Waltz.  It's definitely one of the best games translated into English.  The ending is just so... epic.  I haven't played a visual novel I have considered to be "great" since this. (excluding MOON.)  The only problem (as mentioned earlier) is that there is only one real ending.  You can choose which girl to bed, but it's still one ending  Just play to see. =P  Besides that, some of the fight scenes drag on a little too long.  It's great though.  It's in desperate need of a fandisc.

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Was there a trap in HinataBokko?

Yeah.  The reason for her being a trap was both stupid and poorly explained though.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: DxS on November 29, 2009, 08:34:46 pm
I agree about HinataBokko.... just finished it because I had started it.... I almost couldn't
Currently finishing the last two routes of Crescendo and about to start Princess Waltz after that-
btw, what opinions do you have about the last one?

I loved Princess Waltz.  It's definitely one of the best games translated into English.  The ending is just so... epic.  I haven't played a visual novel I have considered to be "great" since this. (excluding MOON.)  The only problem (as mentioned earlier) is that there is only one real ending.  You can choose which girl to bed, but it's still one ending  Just play to see. =P  Besides that, some of the fight scenes drag on a little too long.  It's great though.  It's in desperate need of a fandisc.

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Was there a trap in HinataBokko?

Yeah.  The reason for her being a trap was both stupid and poorly explained though.

I agree with your opinion on Princess Waltz it was a really great game especially when compared with most of the other officially translated Eroges, too bad it only had one route though, but that seems expected since he had someone he loved through the whole thing.

For the issue on your lack of "Great" Eroge's after rading Princess Waltz i'd say go read cross Channel and then Fate/Stay Night NAO =P They're both more than simply "great."

Guess that means a no play for me don't want any trap filled H-Scenes.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: KoiNoDensetsu on November 29, 2009, 08:44:37 pm
I agree about HinataBokko.... just finished it because I had started it.... I almost couldn't
Currently finishing the last two routes of Crescendo and about to start Princess Waltz after that-
btw, what opinions do you have about the last one?

I loved Princess Waltz.  It's definitely one of the best games translated into English.  The ending is just so... epic.  I haven't played a visual novel I have considered to be "great" since this. (excluding MOON.)  The only problem (as mentioned earlier) is that there is only one real ending.  You can choose which girl to bed, but it's still one ending  Just play to see. =P  Besides that, some of the fight scenes drag on a little too long.  It's great though.  It's in desperate need of a fandisc.

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Was there a trap in HinataBokko?

Yeah.  The reason for her being a trap was both stupid and poorly explained though.

I agree with your opinion on Princess Waltz it was a really great game especially when compared with most of the other officially translated Eroges, too bad it only had one route though, but that seems expected since he had someone he loved through the whole thing.

For the issue on your lack of "Great" Eroge's after rading Princess Waltz i'd say go read cross Channel and then Fate/Stay Night NAO =P They're both more than simply "great."

Guess that means a no play for me don't want any trap filled H-Scenes.

I still think they could have incorporated other paths, but it just wouldn't have been "canon".  Arata technically was never faithful anyway. (you must screw one of the other girls to finish the game)

I started CROSS+CHANNEL, but I heard Ixrec is going to re-edit it, so I'm waiting for that.  I would play Fate, but I don't have it and there are still other (lesser) eroge I own that still needs to be finished.

About HinataBokko, I don't see why a trap should matter. (I mean, you did finish Princess Waltz, right...?)  The trap in HB doesn't even act like a guy in the H-scene, so it's not like you need to be scared of loosing your heterosexuality. =P

But that's probably for the best.  HinataBokko sucks big time.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: DxS on November 29, 2009, 08:53:17 pm
I agree about HinataBokko.... just finished it because I had started it.... I almost couldn't
Currently finishing the last two routes of Crescendo and about to start Princess Waltz after that-
btw, what opinions do you have about the last one?

I loved Princess Waltz.  It's definitely one of the best games translated into English.  The ending is just so... epic.  I haven't played a visual novel I have considered to be "great" since this. (excluding MOON.)  The only problem (as mentioned earlier) is that there is only one real ending.  You can choose which girl to bed, but it's still one ending  Just play to see. =P  Besides that, some of the fight scenes drag on a little too long.  It's great though.  It's in desperate need of a fandisc.

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Was there a trap in HinataBokko?

Yeah.  The reason for her being a trap was both stupid and poorly explained though.

I agree with your opinion on Princess Waltz it was a really great game especially when compared with most of the other officially translated Eroges, too bad it only had one route though, but that seems expected since he had someone he loved through the whole thing.

For the issue on your lack of "Great" Eroge's after rading Princess Waltz i'd say go read cross Channel and then Fate/Stay Night NAO =P They're both more than simply "great."

Guess that means a no play for me don't want any trap filled H-Scenes.

I still think they could have incorporated other paths, but it just wouldn't have been "canon".  Arata technically was never faithful anyway. (you must screw one of the other girls to finish the game)

I started CROSS+CHANNEL, but I heard Ixrec is going to re-edit it, so I'm waiting for that.  I would play Fate, but I don't have it and there are still other (lesser) eroge I own that still needs to be finished.

About HinataBokko, I don't see why a trap should matter. (I mean, you did finish Princess Waltz, right...?)  The trap in HB doesn't even act like a guy in the H-scene, so it's not like you need to be scared of loosing your heterosexuality. =P

But that's probably for the best.  HinataBokko sucks big time.

Well yea but those instances seems more out of neccessity than want compared to the H-Scene with you know who (trying to keep names out of it for people who haven't playes the game yet).

Ah, that's a pretty good reason not to start Cross Channel yet, maybe i should hold of on restarting it, i'm not going to resart it for 2 weeks anyways. Do you own Fate yet?? if not buy it NAO, you can still hold off playing it for later, you know he one thing i never got was why in the world i used the HCG Uncensor patch for Fate it looked natural but there was really no point behind it...

Yea, I finished Princess Waltz, I guess the trap aspect shouldn't really matter but still its different, Princess Waltz was a Reverse Trap with a girl acting like a guy, so that was okay.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: KoiNoDensetsu on November 29, 2009, 08:59:23 pm
I agree about HinataBokko.... just finished it because I had started it.... I almost couldn't
Currently finishing the last two routes of Crescendo and about to start Princess Waltz after that-
btw, what opinions do you have about the last one?

I loved Princess Waltz.  It's definitely one of the best games translated into English.  The ending is just so... epic.  I haven't played a visual novel I have considered to be "great" since this. (excluding MOON.)  The only problem (as mentioned earlier) is that there is only one real ending.  You can choose which girl to bed, but it's still one ending  Just play to see. =P  Besides that, some of the fight scenes drag on a little too long.  It's great though.  It's in desperate need of a fandisc.

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Was there a trap in HinataBokko?

Yeah.  The reason for her being a trap was both stupid and poorly explained though.

I agree with your opinion on Princess Waltz it was a really great game especially when compared with most of the other officially translated Eroges, too bad it only had one route though, but that seems expected since he had someone he loved through the whole thing.

For the issue on your lack of "Great" Eroge's after rading Princess Waltz i'd say go read cross Channel and then Fate/Stay Night NAO =P They're both more than simply "great."

Guess that means a no play for me don't want any trap filled H-Scenes.

I still think they could have incorporated other paths, but it just wouldn't have been "canon".  Arata technically was never faithful anyway. (you must screw one of the other girls to finish the game)

I started CROSS+CHANNEL, but I heard Ixrec is going to re-edit it, so I'm waiting for that.  I would play Fate, but I don't have it and there are still other (lesser) eroge I own that still needs to be finished.

About HinataBokko, I don't see why a trap should matter. (I mean, you did finish Princess Waltz, right...?)  The trap in HB doesn't even act like a guy in the H-scene, so it's not like you need to be scared of loosing your heterosexuality. =P

But that's probably for the best.  HinataBokko sucks big time.

Well yea but those instances seems more out of neccessity than want compared to the H-Scene with you know who (trying to keep names out of it for people who haven't playes the game yet).

Ah, that's a pretty good reason not to start Cross Channel yet, maybe i should hold of on restarting it, i'm not going to resart it for 2 weeks anyways. Do you own Fate yet?? if not buy it NAO, you can still hold off playing it for later, you know he one thing i never got was why in the world i used the HCG Uncensor patch for Fate it looked natural but there was really no point behind it...

Yea, I finished Princess Waltz, I guess the trap aspect shouldn't really matter but still its different, Princess Waltz was a Reverse Trap with a girl acting like a guy, so that was okay.

I still don't think the other H-scenes were necessary.  Sure, they gave the excuse of being "powered up through sex", but that was really only added in so there could be sex with all the girls.  I think the canon path should have been how the game already is, with the other paths keeping the destruction of the world thing would take a back seat.  I just think they really could have fit in other paths, especially when all the girls had potential.

Not enough money for Fate, sorry. =P  I still need money to buy people christmas presents and stuff and I don't want to be broke after one game, so it's going to have to wait until another pay check.

The trap in HinataBokko is a girl acting like a guy. (hence, Princess Waltz)
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: DxS on November 29, 2009, 09:05:26 pm
I agree about HinataBokko.... just finished it because I had started it.... I almost couldn't
Currently finishing the last two routes of Crescendo and about to start Princess Waltz after that-
btw, what opinions do you have about the last one?

I loved Princess Waltz.  It's definitely one of the best games translated into English.  The ending is just so... epic.  I haven't played a visual novel I have considered to be "great" since this. (excluding MOON.)  The only problem (as mentioned earlier) is that there is only one real ending.  You can choose which girl to bed, but it's still one ending  Just play to see. =P  Besides that, some of the fight scenes drag on a little too long.  It's great though.  It's in desperate need of a fandisc.

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Was there a trap in HinataBokko?

Yeah.  The reason for her being a trap was both stupid and poorly explained though.

I agree with your opinion on Princess Waltz it was a really great game especially when compared with most of the other officially translated Eroges, too bad it only had one route though, but that seems expected since he had someone he loved through the whole thing.

For the issue on your lack of "Great" Eroge's after rading Princess Waltz i'd say go read cross Channel and then Fate/Stay Night NAO =P They're both more than simply "great."

Guess that means a no play for me don't want any trap filled H-Scenes.

I still think they could have incorporated other paths, but it just wouldn't have been "canon".  Arata technically was never faithful anyway. (you must screw one of the other girls to finish the game)

I started CROSS+CHANNEL, but I heard Ixrec is going to re-edit it, so I'm waiting for that.  I would play Fate, but I don't have it and there are still other (lesser) eroge I own that still needs to be finished.

About HinataBokko, I don't see why a trap should matter. (I mean, you did finish Princess Waltz, right...?)  The trap in HB doesn't even act like a guy in the H-scene, so it's not like you need to be scared of loosing your heterosexuality. =P

But that's probably for the best.  HinataBokko sucks big time.

Well yea but those instances seems more out of neccessity than want compared to the H-Scene with you know who (trying to keep names out of it for people who haven't playes the game yet).

Ah, that's a pretty good reason not to start Cross Channel yet, maybe i should hold of on restarting it, i'm not going to resart it for 2 weeks anyways. Do you own Fate yet?? if not buy it NAO, you can still hold off playing it for later, you know he one thing i never got was why in the world i used the HCG Uncensor patch for Fate it looked natural but there was really no point behind it...

Yea, I finished Princess Waltz, I guess the trap aspect shouldn't really matter but still its different, Princess Waltz was a Reverse Trap with a girl acting like a guy, so that was okay.

I still don't think the other H-scenes were necessary.  Sure, they gave the excuse of being "powered up through sex", but that was really only added in so there could be sex with all the girls.  I think the canon path should have been how the game already is, with the other paths keeping the destruction of the world thing would take a back seat.  I just think they really could have fit in other paths, especially when all the girls had potential.

Not enough money for Fate, sorry. =P  I still need money to buy people christmas presents and stuff and I don't want to be broke after one game, so it's going to have to wait until another pay check.

The trap in HinataBokko is a girl acting like a guy. (hence, Princess Waltz)

It's mainly because of the medium and they probably fwlt it wouldn't sell well otherwise. Though I guess it could owrk out that way.

I guess i underestimate the cost of Eroges since I borrowed most of the games i've played from my friend except for the ones i find really good which I buy.. Still though, I command you to buy it as soon as possible <___<

Ah, I guess i was confused then, that definetly clears some things up. Maybe i'll take a look at HinataBokko after all though, lots of people said it wasnt that great a game.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: KoiNoDensetsu on November 29, 2009, 09:10:54 pm
I agree about HinataBokko.... just finished it because I had started it.... I almost couldn't
Currently finishing the last two routes of Crescendo and about to start Princess Waltz after that-
btw, what opinions do you have about the last one?

I loved Princess Waltz.  It's definitely one of the best games translated into English.  The ending is just so... epic.  I haven't played a visual novel I have considered to be "great" since this. (excluding MOON.)  The only problem (as mentioned earlier) is that there is only one real ending.  You can choose which girl to bed, but it's still one ending  Just play to see. =P  Besides that, some of the fight scenes drag on a little too long.  It's great though.  It's in desperate need of a fandisc.

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Was there a trap in HinataBokko?

Yeah.  The reason for her being a trap was both stupid and poorly explained though.

I agree with your opinion on Princess Waltz it was a really great game especially when compared with most of the other officially translated Eroges, too bad it only had one route though, but that seems expected since he had someone he loved through the whole thing.

For the issue on your lack of "Great" Eroge's after rading Princess Waltz i'd say go read cross Channel and then Fate/Stay Night NAO =P They're both more than simply "great."

Guess that means a no play for me don't want any trap filled H-Scenes.

I still think they could have incorporated other paths, but it just wouldn't have been "canon".  Arata technically was never faithful anyway. (you must screw one of the other girls to finish the game)

I started CROSS+CHANNEL, but I heard Ixrec is going to re-edit it, so I'm waiting for that.  I would play Fate, but I don't have it and there are still other (lesser) eroge I own that still needs to be finished.

About HinataBokko, I don't see why a trap should matter. (I mean, you did finish Princess Waltz, right...?)  The trap in HB doesn't even act like a guy in the H-scene, so it's not like you need to be scared of loosing your heterosexuality. =P

But that's probably for the best.  HinataBokko sucks big time.

Well yea but those instances seems more out of neccessity than want compared to the H-Scene with you know who (trying to keep names out of it for people who haven't playes the game yet).

Ah, that's a pretty good reason not to start Cross Channel yet, maybe i should hold of on restarting it, i'm not going to resart it for 2 weeks anyways. Do you own Fate yet?? if not buy it NAO, you can still hold off playing it for later, you know he one thing i never got was why in the world i used the HCG Uncensor patch for Fate it looked natural but there was really no point behind it...

Yea, I finished Princess Waltz, I guess the trap aspect shouldn't really matter but still its different, Princess Waltz was a Reverse Trap with a girl acting like a guy, so that was okay.

I still don't think the other H-scenes were necessary.  Sure, they gave the excuse of being "powered up through sex", but that was really only added in so there could be sex with all the girls.  I think the canon path should have been how the game already is, with the other paths keeping the destruction of the world thing would take a back seat.  I just think they really could have fit in other paths, especially when all the girls had potential.

Not enough money for Fate, sorry. =P  I still need money to buy people christmas presents and stuff and I don't want to be broke after one game, so it's going to have to wait until another pay check.

The trap in HinataBokko is a girl acting like a guy. (hence, Princess Waltz)

It's mainly because of the medium and they probably fwlt it wouldn't sell well otherwise. Though I guess it could owrk out that way.

I guess i underestimate the cost of Eroges since I borrowed most of the games i've played from my friend except for the ones i find really good which I buy.. Still though, I command you to buy it as soon as possible <___<

Ah, I guess i was confused then, that definetly clears some things up. Maybe i'll take a look at HinataBokko after all though, lots of people said it wasnt that great a game.

Yeah, that's the reason for 78% (actual percentage) of H-scenes in story based games.  Kanon had H-scenes simply so it would sell more copies.

Yep, Japanese eroge is EXPENISVE!  Fate is currently going for $99 on erogeshop.
http://www.erogeshop.com/product_info.php/products_id/1003148

As for HinataBokko, don't.  You would be wasting your time.  Even though the character designs and opening song may look appealing, it isn't the moe fest you are looking for.  Play Shuffle if you haven't.  That's a lot better.
And no offense, but I find it a little shallow that you wouldn't play a game simply because one of the paths may include a guy.  I would play Nitro+ Chiral (I think that's the brand name) if they got translated since the story looks good in those.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: DxS on November 29, 2009, 09:18:13 pm
I agree about HinataBokko.... just finished it because I had started it.... I almost couldn't
Currently finishing the last two routes of Crescendo and about to start Princess Waltz after that-
btw, what opinions do you have about the last one?

I loved Princess Waltz.  It's definitely one of the best games translated into English.  The ending is just so... epic.  I haven't played a visual novel I have considered to be "great" since this. (excluding MOON.)  The only problem (as mentioned earlier) is that there is only one real ending.  You can choose which girl to bed, but it's still one ending  Just play to see. =P  Besides that, some of the fight scenes drag on a little too long.  It's great though.  It's in desperate need of a fandisc.

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Was there a trap in HinataBokko?

Yeah.  The reason for her being a trap was both stupid and poorly explained though.

I agree with your opinion on Princess Waltz it was a really great game especially when compared with most of the other officially translated Eroges, too bad it only had one route though, but that seems expected since he had someone he loved through the whole thing.

For the issue on your lack of "Great" Eroge's after rading Princess Waltz i'd say go read cross Channel and then Fate/Stay Night NAO =P They're both more than simply "great."

Guess that means a no play for me don't want any trap filled H-Scenes.

I still think they could have incorporated other paths, but it just wouldn't have been "canon".  Arata technically was never faithful anyway. (you must screw one of the other girls to finish the game)

I started CROSS+CHANNEL, but I heard Ixrec is going to re-edit it, so I'm waiting for that.  I would play Fate, but I don't have it and there are still other (lesser) eroge I own that still needs to be finished.

About HinataBokko, I don't see why a trap should matter. (I mean, you did finish Princess Waltz, right...?)  The trap in HB doesn't even act like a guy in the H-scene, so it's not like you need to be scared of loosing your heterosexuality. =P

But that's probably for the best.  HinataBokko sucks big time.

Well yea but those instances seems more out of neccessity than want compared to the H-Scene with you know who (trying to keep names out of it for people who haven't playes the game yet).

Ah, that's a pretty good reason not to start Cross Channel yet, maybe i should hold of on restarting it, i'm not going to resart it for 2 weeks anyways. Do you own Fate yet?? if not buy it NAO, you can still hold off playing it for later, you know he one thing i never got was why in the world i used the HCG Uncensor patch for Fate it looked natural but there was really no point behind it...

Yea, I finished Princess Waltz, I guess the trap aspect shouldn't really matter but still its different, Princess Waltz was a Reverse Trap with a girl acting like a guy, so that was okay.

I still don't think the other H-scenes were necessary.  Sure, they gave the excuse of being "powered up through sex", but that was really only added in so there could be sex with all the girls.  I think the canon path should have been how the game already is, with the other paths keeping the destruction of the world thing would take a back seat.  I just think they really could have fit in other paths, especially when all the girls had potential.

Not enough money for Fate, sorry. =P  I still need money to buy people christmas presents and stuff and I don't want to be broke after one game, so it's going to have to wait until another pay check.

The trap in HinataBokko is a girl acting like a guy. (hence, Princess Waltz)

It's mainly because of the medium and they probably fwlt it wouldn't sell well otherwise. Though I guess it could owrk out that way.

I guess i underestimate the cost of Eroges since I borrowed most of the games i've played from my friend except for the ones i find really good which I buy.. Still though, I command you to buy it as soon as possible <___<

Ah, I guess i was confused then, that definetly clears some things up. Maybe i'll take a look at HinataBokko after all though, lots of people said it wasnt that great a game.

Yeah, that's the reason for 78% (actual percentage) of H-scenes in story based games.  Kanon had H-scenes simply so it would sell more copies.

Yep, Japanese eroge is EXPENISVE!  Fate is currently going for $99 on erogeshop.
http://www.erogeshop.com/product_info.php/products_id/1003148

As for HinataBokko, don't.  You would be wasting your time.  Even though the character designs and opening song may look appealing, it isn't the moe fest you are looking for.  Play Shuffle if you haven't.  That's a lot better.
And no offense, but I find it a little shallow that you wouldn't play a game simply because one of the paths may include a guy.  I would play Nitro+ Chiral (I think that's the brand name) if they got translated since the story looks good in those.

Yeah i heard about that, though they ended up  making Clannad and Little Busters non ero, though there was the re-release Little Busters EX.

It will probably get MOAR expensive if you don't act fast, get it quickly <__<

Well, to be honest Hinatabokko didn't interest me anyways, but I though i'd try it because it looks cute only to find out that it had a trap and I honestly didn't feel like playing it anymore, If the story was really good i could probably play through it, but i wouldn't really want to unless the story is really good even if admitedly it is somewhat shallow.

I just don't really want to read about that tyoe of stuff in my Eroges, just like i don't really like reading about Rape, Bondage etc. (though i did play throug Sengoku Rance).
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: KoiNoDensetsu on November 29, 2009, 09:22:06 pm
I agree about HinataBokko.... just finished it because I had started it.... I almost couldn't
Currently finishing the last two routes of Crescendo and about to start Princess Waltz after that-
btw, what opinions do you have about the last one?

I loved Princess Waltz.  It's definitely one of the best games translated into English.  The ending is just so... epic.  I haven't played a visual novel I have considered to be "great" since this. (excluding MOON.)  The only problem (as mentioned earlier) is that there is only one real ending.  You can choose which girl to bed, but it's still one ending  Just play to see. =P  Besides that, some of the fight scenes drag on a little too long.  It's great though.  It's in desperate need of a fandisc.

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Was there a trap in HinataBokko?

Yeah.  The reason for her being a trap was both stupid and poorly explained though.

I agree with your opinion on Princess Waltz it was a really great game especially when compared with most of the other officially translated Eroges, too bad it only had one route though, but that seems expected since he had someone he loved through the whole thing.

For the issue on your lack of "Great" Eroge's after rading Princess Waltz i'd say go read cross Channel and then Fate/Stay Night NAO =P They're both more than simply "great."

Guess that means a no play for me don't want any trap filled H-Scenes.

I still think they could have incorporated other paths, but it just wouldn't have been "canon".  Arata technically was never faithful anyway. (you must screw one of the other girls to finish the game)

I started CROSS+CHANNEL, but I heard Ixrec is going to re-edit it, so I'm waiting for that.  I would play Fate, but I don't have it and there are still other (lesser) eroge I own that still needs to be finished.

About HinataBokko, I don't see why a trap should matter. (I mean, you did finish Princess Waltz, right...?)  The trap in HB doesn't even act like a guy in the H-scene, so it's not like you need to be scared of loosing your heterosexuality. =P

But that's probably for the best.  HinataBokko sucks big time.

Well yea but those instances seems more out of neccessity than want compared to the H-Scene with you know who (trying to keep names out of it for people who haven't playes the game yet).

Ah, that's a pretty good reason not to start Cross Channel yet, maybe i should hold of on restarting it, i'm not going to resart it for 2 weeks anyways. Do you own Fate yet?? if not buy it NAO, you can still hold off playing it for later, you know he one thing i never got was why in the world i used the HCG Uncensor patch for Fate it looked natural but there was really no point behind it...

Yea, I finished Princess Waltz, I guess the trap aspect shouldn't really matter but still its different, Princess Waltz was a Reverse Trap with a girl acting like a guy, so that was okay.

I still don't think the other H-scenes were necessary.  Sure, they gave the excuse of being "powered up through sex", but that was really only added in so there could be sex with all the girls.  I think the canon path should have been how the game already is, with the other paths keeping the destruction of the world thing would take a back seat.  I just think they really could have fit in other paths, especially when all the girls had potential.

Not enough money for Fate, sorry. =P  I still need money to buy people christmas presents and stuff and I don't want to be broke after one game, so it's going to have to wait until another pay check.

The trap in HinataBokko is a girl acting like a guy. (hence, Princess Waltz)

It's mainly because of the medium and they probably fwlt it wouldn't sell well otherwise. Though I guess it could owrk out that way.

I guess i underestimate the cost of Eroges since I borrowed most of the games i've played from my friend except for the ones i find really good which I buy.. Still though, I command you to buy it as soon as possible <___<

Ah, I guess i was confused then, that definetly clears some things up. Maybe i'll take a look at HinataBokko after all though, lots of people said it wasnt that great a game.

Yeah, that's the reason for 78% (actual percentage) of H-scenes in story based games.  Kanon had H-scenes simply so it would sell more copies.

Yep, Japanese eroge is EXPENISVE!  Fate is currently going for $99 on erogeshop.
http://www.erogeshop.com/product_info.php/products_id/1003148

As for HinataBokko, don't.  You would be wasting your time.  Even though the character designs and opening song may look appealing, it isn't the moe fest you are looking for.  Play Shuffle if you haven't.  That's a lot better.
And no offense, but I find it a little shallow that you wouldn't play a game simply because one of the paths may include a guy.  I would play Nitro+ Chiral (I think that's the brand name) if they got translated since the story looks good in those.

Yeah i heard about that, though they ended up  making Clannad and Little Busters non ero, though there was the re-release Little Busters EX.

It will probably get MOAR expensive if you don't act fast, get it quickly <__<

Well, to be honest Hinatabokko didn't interest me anyways, but I though i'd try it because it looks cute only to find out that it had a trap and I honestly didn't feel like playing it anymore, If the story was really good i could probably play through it, but i wouldn't really want to unless the story is really good even if admitedly it is somewhat shallow.

I just don't really want to read about that tyoe of stuff in my Eroges, just like i don't really like reading about Rape, Bondage etc. (though i did play throug Sengoku Rance).

I doubt Fate will go OOP anytime soon.  It's just too popular.  If it ever does go OOP, a cheaper "renewal" edition will probably be released soon after.

I'll read anything as long as the story is supposed to be good.  I hate guro, but I would get it if it was translated.  That's supposed to have an awesome story.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Metarail on November 29, 2009, 11:44:37 pm
Currently playing Baldr Sky: Dive2 -Recordare- and only reason I'm not playing it right now is because I'm at school, which is the reason I even posted this.

Have to say tough that Baldr Sky is definately going to be my alltime favorite VN once I finish it, unless it completely fucks up in later parts, which I doubt will happen. Rarely something has grabbed me as much as Baldr Sky has, well now that I think about, nothing has ever sucked me in this badly. Because peoples tastes are different, I can't say that everyone would enjoy it as much as I have, but for me atleast it's best thing ever and I doubt that will change in looooooooooooong time.

As of now I have just finished the first route of dive2 (Aki) and quality was equal that to the dive1. It had severall fuck yeah moments, few mind blowing events and reveals and foreshadowing. Also various weird combos were invented with the new weapons.

Now I'm reading the past school life section to unlock the rest of the routes. There has been few new memories that has not been seen in main story and few small chances to old events + new CGs. Kinda had forgotten how much I love these sections for their character interaction, comedy, foreshadowing and generall setting up for various twists that come in later in story. And it all makes me wonder how they are going to use all those story elements in present that has yet to be used. Also Sora is <3 and Aki, Kuu and Makoto are moe, etc.

Cannot wait untill that one scene will happen, hopefully it will be in Makotos route, but I think it also could happen in also Sora route. It all depends how the events will go once Makoto route starts as it diverges right at the start of the game instead bit later like in other routes.

well, I'll stop rambling now...
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: KoiNoDensetsu on November 30, 2009, 06:59:42 am
LOL you seem to really be a huge Baldr Sky fan.  Are you able to read enough Japanese to play it properly?  That's one of the many games I need to learn Japanese for. 
BTW, have you played Ever17?  I'm wondering if you think BS can beat even that.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Metarail on November 30, 2009, 07:58:58 am
LOL you seem to really be a huge Baldr Sky fan.  Are you able to read enough Japanese to play it properly?  That's one of the many games I need to learn Japanese for. 
BTW, have you played Ever17?  I'm wondering if you think BS can beat even that.

Well, I have been self-learning japanese, but I'm really slow, I also still use dictionaries, agth+translation aggerator and stuff like that to help me to read. so my reading speed is really slow as I try not to miss anything.

As for ever17, Baldr Sky has it beat for me clearly, there might not be anything as brickshitting in it as there is in ever17, but it does get close at some parts and there a lot of things to come, if you believe all the foreshadowing thats going on. Also should be noted that ever17 is only great in coco route (there are other things also which don't really compare, like bit of iffy pacing of the story, characters not being that interesting) while BS great all the way through. as I said it's the best thing ever for me, I don't even properly know why I like BS so much, there's just something that grabs me in it and refuses to let go. Maybe it's that I find the story "beautiful" (it's kinda hard to explain what I really mean) in many different ways, and it's also because of that I really would like to see it translated and other people to read it and appreciate it (altough not everyone will like it sameway as I do).

but anyway, now that I'm back at home, time to continue it.... will probably come ramble some more later.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: KoiNoDensetsu on November 30, 2009, 09:10:29 am
LOL you seem to really be a huge Baldr Sky fan.  Are you able to read enough Japanese to play it properly?  That's one of the many games I need to learn Japanese for. 
BTW, have you played Ever17?  I'm wondering if you think BS can beat even that.

Well, I have been self-learning japanese, but I'm really slow, I also still use dictionaries, agth+translation aggerator and stuff like that to help me to read. so my reading speed is really slow as I try not to miss anything.

As for ever17, Baldr Sky has it beat for me clearly, there might not be anything as brickshitting in it as there is in ever17, but it does get close at some parts and there a lot of things to come, if you believe all the foreshadowing thats going on. Also should be noted that ever17 is only great in coco route (there are other things also which don't really compare, like bit of iffy pacing of the story, characters not being that interesting) while BS great all the way through. as I said it's the best thing ever for me, I don't even properly know why I like BS so much, there's just something that grabs me in it and refuses to let go. Maybe it's that I find the story "beautiful" (it's kinda hard to explain what I really mean) in many different ways, and it's also because of that I really would like to see it translated and other people to read it and appreciate it (altough not everyone will like it sameway as I do).

but anyway, now that I'm back at home, time to continue it.... will probably come ramble some more later.

Hm, well it must be a great game then.  I found the non-Coco routes to be amazing though.  Tsugumi, for instance, had one of the best paths out of any visual novel I've played.  The scene where you hold her bleeding hand in the good ending was just so powerful. (maybe the best scene out of any visual novel)  I consider all the paths in Ever17 to be amazing, but Sara has the weakest path.

Anyway, I just finished Hourglass of Summer after all these years.  It was my first visual novel but the DVD format kept me playing the paths once every year or so.  Great, classic game.  I'll probably focus on Chain and my Himeya games now, but I'm going to focus on studying Japanese now. (for the most part now)
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Moriken on November 30, 2009, 12:48:32 pm
LOL you seem to really be a huge Baldr Sky fan.  Are you able to read enough Japanese to play it properly?  That's one of the many games I need to learn Japanese for. 
BTW, have you played Ever17?  I'm wondering if you think BS can beat even that.

Well, I have been self-learning japanese, but I'm really slow, I also still use dictionaries, agth+translation aggerator and stuff like that to help me to read. so my reading speed is really slow as I try not to miss anything.

As for ever17, Baldr Sky has it beat for me clearly, there might not be anything as brickshitting in it as there is in ever17, but it does get close at some parts and there a lot of things to come, if you believe all the foreshadowing thats going on. Also should be noted that ever17 is only great in coco route (there are other things also which don't really compare, like bit of iffy pacing of the story, characters not being that interesting) while BS great all the way through. as I said it's the best thing ever for me, I don't even properly know why I like BS so much, there's just something that grabs me in it and refuses to let go. Maybe it's that I find the story "beautiful" (it's kinda hard to explain what I really mean) in many different ways, and it's also because of that I really would like to see it translated and other people to read it and appreciate it (altough not everyone will like it sameway as I do).

but anyway, now that I'm back at home, time to continue it.... will probably come ramble some more later.

Hm, well it must be a great game then.  I found the non-Coco routes to be amazing though.  Tsugumi, for instance, had one of the best paths out of any visual novel I've played.  The scene where you hold her bleeding hand in the good ending was just so powerful. (maybe the best scene out of any visual novel)  I consider all the paths in Ever17 to be amazing, but Sara has the weakest path.

Anyway, I just finished Hourglass of Summer after all these years.  It was my first visual novel but the DVD format kept me playing the paths once every year or so.  Great, classic game.  I'll probably focus on Chain and my Himeya games now, but I'm going to focus on studying Japanese now. (for the most part now)

Well, yes, IMO the sole weakness of Ever17 was...who the hell starts playing tag or whatever when trapped in an undersea station?????!!! They took it a bit too easy...

Edit: and...when exactly did Kid have sex in the novel? Not that I recall...
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Metarail on December 01, 2009, 01:36:24 am
Tsugumis route was probably the best of non-Coco routes in ever17, but it still wasn't that memorable to me. The best thing I remember of ever17 is that mirror scene, bricks were shat in it.

As of most memorable scene in VNs that I have played, is most likely that one scene THAT one scene from Muv-Luv Alternative, but I remember ot mostly from the shock factor it had (I even had it spoiled, but I didn't know when and how it would happen so it was quite...). But probably one of my favorites is that one scene during the gray christmas in Baldr Sky, it just gets me everytime. Hopefully that scene that I anticipate to happen in dive2 is as emotional as I hope, then it probably will get the spot of one of my favorite scenes.

stupid school and exams keeping me from playing dive2, and when I just started the next route and it entered the fuck yeah mode from the very begining....
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: coerloyal on December 01, 2009, 03:21:53 am
*ahem*

my reviews are kinda mixed really. I haven't played THAT many eroges since... well... a year ago. I'm kinda stuck with waiting for translations patches to come through.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: KoiNoDensetsu on December 01, 2009, 04:42:13 am
LOL you seem to really be a huge Baldr Sky fan.  Are you able to read enough Japanese to play it properly?  That's one of the many games I need to learn Japanese for. 
BTW, have you played Ever17?  I'm wondering if you think BS can beat even that.

Well, I have been self-learning japanese, but I'm really slow, I also still use dictionaries, agth+translation aggerator and stuff like that to help me to read. so my reading speed is really slow as I try not to miss anything.

As for ever17, Baldr Sky has it beat for me clearly, there might not be anything as brickshitting in it as there is in ever17, but it does get close at some parts and there a lot of things to come, if you believe all the foreshadowing thats going on. Also should be noted that ever17 is only great in coco route (there are other things also which don't really compare, like bit of iffy pacing of the story, characters not being that interesting) while BS great all the way through. as I said it's the best thing ever for me, I don't even properly know why I like BS so much, there's just something that grabs me in it and refuses to let go. Maybe it's that I find the story "beautiful" (it's kinda hard to explain what I really mean) in many different ways, and it's also because of that I really would like to see it translated and other people to read it and appreciate it (altough not everyone will like it sameway as I do).

but anyway, now that I'm back at home, time to continue it.... will probably come ramble some more later.

Hm, well it must be a great game then.  I found the non-Coco routes to be amazing though.  Tsugumi, for instance, had one of the best paths out of any visual novel I've played.  The scene where you hold her bleeding hand in the good ending was just so powerful. (maybe the best scene out of any visual novel)  I consider all the paths in Ever17 to be amazing, but Sara has the weakest path.

Anyway, I just finished Hourglass of Summer after all these years.  It was my first visual novel but the DVD format kept me playing the paths once every year or so.  Great, classic game.  I'll probably focus on Chain and my Himeya games now, but I'm going to focus on studying Japanese now. (for the most part now)

Well, yes, IMO the sole weakness of Ever17 was...who the hell starts playing tag or whatever when trapped in an undersea station?????!!! They took it a bit too easy...

Edit: and...when exactly did Kid have sex in the novel? Not that I recall...

I'm pretty certain it's suggested somewhere in You's route.  It's been a while since I played it, so I could be wrong.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Metarail on December 03, 2009, 04:09:20 am
back here again to ramble some more before I get back home.

Have finished Akis and Makotos routes in dive2 now, so last route remains before I get huge backlash depression when I finish it and it's all over.

Makotos route was probably best of the 5 so far, also the title "Baldr Sky" gets in story mention, should have guessed that it was that one thing....

I kinda feared how they would handle the last route without an asspull and breaking established facts, due to that small problem that is why that route can't happen that easily. well yeah, it seems that fear was useless, as altough I don't have anykind of proper clue what the fuck is currently going on (well I do have few theories), but it seems that there is proper answer to it all, so eagerly awaiting what kind of things are going to happen.

So far I had time to read 2 first chapters of the last route and in this small time (well they were longer than other routes 2 first chapters tough) I already have gone fuck yeah, what the fuck is going on here, shitted bricks, O_O, ;_;, DAAAAWWW'D and FFFFFUUUUUUUUuuuuuu'd, and some of those several times. Definately going to come my favorite route besides the fact that it's my favorite heroines route. Also there was one small reference to Baldr Force.

now getting out before I accidently start spouting spoilers.

random note: I like how pretty much every character have so far had their moments to shine.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Metarail on December 04, 2009, 04:47:17 am
I came, I mean it came. In the end I didn't manage to finish it before my copy arrived.

(http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/7500/baldaaskuaii.jpg) (http://img109.imageshack.us/i/baldaaskuaii.jpg/)

and damn I regret not pre-ordering dive1 now, I would have wanted the posters that came with it as these 3 posters of dive2 are really nice.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: DxS on December 08, 2009, 09:23:34 pm
I came, I mean it came. In the end I didn't manage to finish it before my copy arrived.

(http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/7500/baldaaskuaii.jpg) (http://img109.imageshack.us/i/baldaaskuaii.jpg/)

and damn I regret not pre-ordering dive1 now, I would have wanted the posters that came with it as these 3 posters of dive2 are really nice.

Man thta artstyle is really nice. The blond one on the right looks so hot >_<

She has a route right?
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Metarail on December 08, 2009, 10:37:28 pm
Man thta artstyle is really nice. The blond one on the right looks so hot >_<

She has a route right?

The blonde is Rain and yes she does have route. Also many consider her to be best heroine and she also has most of the screentime of them all besides the main character. Personaly I like Sora and Makoto (those two in middle poster) more, but that just tastes speaking. And then again I like the whole cast, usually there is someone in all games that I play that I hate, but this wasn't in the case of Baldr Sky, in which altough I don't like some characters that much I still don't hate them. Personal favorite characters was Sora (the one in games cover and in upper left poster)*grumbles something about Sora being main heroine and having the least screentime from all heroines, but that really can't be helped due to her situation*.

But pretty much have finished the whole thing and easily became my favorite VN ever also probably my favorite story of all the mediums that I follow, it just catered to my tastes so perfectly. Well I still have 1 or 2 different endings to get, but getting them has slowed down because of these damn exams. after getting them I will probably suffer from depression that it's all over.... will probably write a review after I get enough time, altough I suck at writing reviews.

random note: The last route had pretty good ammount of brickshitting going on in it, I also liked the Baldr Sky duo more than what I liked the Muv-Luv Trilogy.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Harun on December 09, 2009, 03:26:21 am
Rain is awesome even if I didn't like Baldr that much (the first one at least, still haven't been able to start Dive2).
Metarail those goods look amazing and I see they justify the price I saw at erogeshop now, I wish they'd ship to my country now ;__;.

Playing now: FullMetal Daemon Muramasa. Bricks were shat at the end of...well, every chapter. Also, Kageaki is such a great main character and the lastest patch of Inganock, so far, I'm impressed.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Metarail on December 09, 2009, 04:16:17 am
Rain is awesome even if I didn't like Baldr that much (the first one at least, still haven't been able to start Dive2).
Metarail those goods look amazing and I see they justify the price I saw at erogeshop now, I wish they'd ship to my country now ;__;.

Playing now: FullMetal Daemon Muramasa. Bricks were shat at the end of...well, every chapter. Also, Kageaki is such a great main character and the lastest patch of Inganock, so far, I'm impressed.

well erogeshop does overprice a bit, but in the end it's only place that I know my credit card works and ships international, so yeah not that theres much choices to me (probably even less for you), and it's one of the few places you can get the pre-order bonuses, and I just love pre-order bonuses. Oh yeah, does anyone here know any good places do order VNs/eroges from japan that ships international (other than erogeshop)?

Also how long is muramasa? probably going to play it in future atleast as I have heard it's pretty great (altough I have heard that in drags on in places, how bad is this?), altough it probably won't beat Baldr Sky for me (each people have different tastes). as for baldr sky I consider dive2 routes being better than dive1 routes, altough Akis route is quite similar in quality to dive1 routes, but Makotos route is pretty great and so is Soras due it being well different from the rest. if you wanted comparison to dive1.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: DxS on December 09, 2009, 03:26:52 pm
Rain is awesome even if I didn't like Baldr that much (the first one at least, still haven't been able to start Dive2).
Metarail those goods look amazing and I see they justify the price I saw at erogeshop now, I wish they'd ship to my country now ;__;.

Playing now: FullMetal Daemon Muramasa. Bricks were shat at the end of...well, every chapter. Also, Kageaki is such a great main character and the lastest patch of Inganock, so far, I'm impressed.

well erogeshop does overprice a bit, but in the end it's only place that I know my credit card works and ships international, so yeah not that theres much choices to me (probably even less for you), and it's one of the few places you can get the pre-order bonuses, and I just love pre-order bonuses. Oh yeah, does anyone here know any good places do order VNs/eroges from japan that ships international (other than erogeshop)?

Also how long is muramasa? probably going to play it in future atleast as I have heard it's pretty great (altough I have heard that in drags on in places, how bad is this?), altough it probably won't beat Baldr Sky for me (each people have different tastes). as for baldr sky I consider dive2 routes being better than dive1 routes, altough Akis route is quite similar in quality to dive1 routes, but Makotos route is pretty great and so is Soras due it being well different from the rest. if you wanted comparison to dive1.

So how many different routes/heroines are there in Baldr Sky and are the heroinesthe same in dive1 and dive2 or are theyre new ones added in Dive2?

So her name's Rain huh, she looks nice I hope baldr Sky gets translated someday.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Metarail on December 09, 2009, 11:53:22 pm
So how many different routes/heroines are there in Baldr Sky and are the heroinesthe same in dive1 and dive2 or are theyre new ones added in Dive2?

So her name's Rain huh, she looks nice I hope baldr Sky gets translated someday.

There is 6 routes in Baldr Sky so 6 heroines, ofcourse there are other characters too. The cast stays the same between the games and the routes altough they focus on certain characters there is still a lot of interaction with other characters. Dive1 has Rain, Nanoha and Chinatsu routes, while Dive2 has Aki, Makoto and Sora routes. It's easier to think Baldr Sky as one big game rather than two separate games.

Also should be noted that there has been some interest from proper translator to translate it, so yeah, there is possibility that project would be starting.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: DxS on December 10, 2009, 01:52:33 pm
So how many different routes/heroines are there in Baldr Sky and are the heroinesthe same in dive1 and dive2 or are theyre new ones added in Dive2?

So her name's Rain huh, she looks nice I hope baldr Sky gets translated someday.

There is 6 routes in Baldr Sky so 6 heroines, ofcourse there are other characters too. The cast stays the same between the games and the routes altough they focus on certain characters there is still a lot of interaction with other characters. Dive1 has Rain, Nanoha and Chinatsu routes, while Dive2 has Aki, Makoto and Sora routes. It's easier to think Baldr Sky as one big game rather than two separate games.

Also should be noted that there has been some interest from proper translator to translate it, so yeah, there is possibility that project would be starting.

Ah, so there's different playable routes in each one got it. I kind of fell interested in the game now, I hope it gets translated.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: KoiNoDensetsu on December 10, 2009, 10:07:25 pm
So how many different routes/heroines are there in Baldr Sky and are the heroinesthe same in dive1 and dive2 or are theyre new ones added in Dive2?

So her name's Rain huh, she looks nice I hope baldr Sky gets translated someday.

There is 6 routes in Baldr Sky so 6 heroines, ofcourse there are other characters too. The cast stays the same between the games and the routes altough they focus on certain characters there is still a lot of interaction with other characters. Dive1 has Rain, Nanoha and Chinatsu routes, while Dive2 has Aki, Makoto and Sora routes. It's easier to think Baldr Sky as one big game rather than two separate games.

Also should be noted that there has been some interest from proper translator to translate it, so yeah, there is possibility that project would be starting.

Ah, so there's different playable routes in each one got it. I kind of fell interested in the game now, I hope it gets translated.

Baldr Sky is getting translated.

http://thejot.wordpress.com/baldr-sky-tanslation-page/

The project that everyone thought was fake turned out to be true. (at least for now)  Ixrec is counting it as being translated.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Kiru on December 11, 2009, 12:55:40 am
So how many different routes/heroines are there in Baldr Sky and are the heroinesthe same in dive1 and dive2 or are theyre new ones added in Dive2?

So her name's Rain huh, she looks nice I hope baldr Sky gets translated someday.

There is 6 routes in Baldr Sky so 6 heroines, ofcourse there are other characters too. The cast stays the same between the games and the routes altough they focus on certain characters there is still a lot of interaction with other characters. Dive1 has Rain, Nanoha and Chinatsu routes, while Dive2 has Aki, Makoto and Sora routes. It's easier to think Baldr Sky as one big game rather than two separate games.

Also should be noted that there has been some interest from proper translator to translate it, so yeah, there is possibility that project would be starting.

Ah, so there's different playable routes in each one got it. I kind of fell interested in the game now, I hope it gets translated.

Baldr Sky is getting translated.

http://thejot.wordpress.com/baldr-sky-tanslation-page/

The project that everyone thought was fake turned out to be true. (at least for now)  Ixrec is counting it as being translated.

Well, Dive1... that's half of the story. Probably one of those games I'd never touch until both parts are complete.

If I think about Code Geass... I've watched it when all 50eps were out, but those who followed it weekly hat quite a nice season1 ending. (and 9 months waiting time^^)
I don't know how bad it is with Baldr Sky and its "where dive2!" feeling compared to code geass though.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Metarail on December 11, 2009, 01:26:17 am
Baldr Sky is getting translated.

http://thejot.wordpress.com/baldr-sky-tanslation-page/

The project that everyone thought was fake turned out to be true. (at least for now)  Ixrec is counting it as being translated.
Masat01 is still a troll I say (not knowing japanese and having not played it trough, So he WOULD drop it before he would even get properly started, heck I probably would even make better translator than he is, but I'm too lazy). Besides that there is interest from someone else and far better translator.

Well, Dive1... that's half of the story. Probably one of those games I'd never touch until both parts are complete.

If I think about Code Geass... I've watched it when all 50eps were out, but those who followed it weekly hat quite a nice season1 ending. (and 9 months waiting time^^)
I don't know how bad it is with Baldr Sky and its "where dive2!" feeling compared to code geass though.
The wait between dive1 and dive2 was something like the wait between each new umineko episode multiplied by the factor of 50 (atleast for me). during that time I didn't have even proper will to read anything else, because I was waiting dive2 like rising sun.

The most likeliest scanario is that each route get released seperately when translation starts. This is due to the fact that each routes is a proper story that reveals more of the whole plot as you play them. Also you have to play each route in order, you unlock the next route after you finish one (kinda like it's in FSN). the order being Rain -> Nanoha -> Chinatsu -> (well you can start here if you only have dive2 installed, probably) Aki -> Makoto -> Sora.

Also finaly finished all the possible endings. Definately the Best Thing Ever for me (opinions may vary, because people like different things), altough it had few small flaws, but those really didn't bother me. And now I'm extremely depressed that it's all over.... I want Fandisk !!!! (there are few things that they could put in fandisk that didn't get proper total exposure in main story, but would fit perfectly in fandisk as those events were not that plot revelant in all and showing them in full would have broken flow of the game).
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: KoiNoDensetsu on December 11, 2009, 07:05:28 am
Personally, I like when I have an "OMG I MUST GET THE NEXT PART!!!" feeling after playing a game.  It makes me appreciate each part to the fullest and makes the ending better. (unless it truly does suck)  That's what I love about the Kingdom Hearts games: by the beginning, I'll be like "Ugh, do I really have to finish this...?" (358/2), when by the end of the game, I NEED the next part. =P

I have a feeling Baldr Sky will get an anime.  It's popular and supposedly quite awesome, so I'm sure some anime company will want to cash in on it.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Metarail on December 11, 2009, 10:44:56 am
I have a feeling Baldr Sky will get an anime.  It's popular and supposedly quite awesome, so I'm sure some anime company will want to cash in on it.

There are many popular and awesome VNs that haven't got anime adaption (where the fuck is Muv-Luv anime adaption?) and a lot of those are also easier to animate than baldr sky. As to properly animate Baldr Sky would be quite hard, altough it wouldn't be imposible to do with small changes. Atleast I don't want another anime like that Baldr Force anime was, it almost completely butchered baldr force.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: DxS on December 11, 2009, 01:04:01 pm
I have a feeling Baldr Sky will get an anime.  It's popular and supposedly quite awesome, so I'm sure some anime company will want to cash in on it.

There are many popular and awesome VNs that haven't got anime adaption (where the fuck is Muv-Luv anime adaption?) and a lot of those are also easier to animate than baldr sky. As to properly animate Baldr Sky would be quite hard, altough it wouldn't be imposible to do with small changes. Atleast I don't want another anime like that Baldr Force anime was, it almost completely butchered baldr force.

That's true, I mean Cross Channel doesn't have an anime either.

I'm sure that there are some studios that could adapt it into an anime well.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: KoiNoDensetsu on December 11, 2009, 02:00:51 pm
I have a feeling Baldr Sky will get an anime.  It's popular and supposedly quite awesome, so I'm sure some anime company will want to cash in on it.

There are many popular and awesome VNs that haven't got anime adaption (where the fuck is Muv-Luv anime adaption?) and a lot of those are also easier to animate than baldr sky. As to properly animate Baldr Sky would be quite hard, altough it wouldn't be imposible to do with small changes. Atleast I don't want another anime like that Baldr Force anime was, it almost completely butchered baldr force.

Muv-Luv actually is getting an anime.  I heard it was just recently announced.  I'm surprised it took this long.

I don't know, I just get this feeling looking at Baldr Force that it is the kind of eroge an anime studio would want to adapt.  True, it might never get adapted, but I just have a feeling an anime will be created.  VNs with multiple releases also suggest that:  1. Enough people bought the first game that there was a sequel. and 2. More story = more seasons = more money.

A CROSS+CHANNEL anime would be EXTREMELY hard to make.  I haven't even played that far through it and I already see how confusing/complicated the story will turn out to be.  That's the same reason there probably isn't an Ever17 anime.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Moriken on December 11, 2009, 04:00:29 pm
I have a feeling Baldr Sky will get an anime.  It's popular and supposedly quite awesome, so I'm sure some anime company will want to cash in on it.

There are many popular and awesome VNs that haven't got anime adaption (where the fuck is Muv-Luv anime adaption?) and a lot of those are also easier to animate than baldr sky. As to properly animate Baldr Sky would be quite hard, altough it wouldn't be imposible to do with small changes. Atleast I don't want another anime like that Baldr Force anime was, it almost completely butchered baldr force.

Muv-Luv actually is getting an anime.  I heard it was just recently announced.  I'm surprised it took this long.

I don't know, I just get this feeling looking at Baldr Force that it is the kind of eroge an anime studio would want to adapt.  True, it might never get adapted, but I just have a feeling an anime will be created.  VNs with multiple releases also suggest that:  1. Enough people bought the first game that there was a sequel. and 2. More story = more seasons = more money.

A CROSS+CHANNEL anime would be EXTREMELY hard to make.  I haven't even played that far through it and I already see how confusing/complicated the story will turn out to be.  That's the same reason there probably isn't an Ever17 anime.

Yeah, well, Ever17 wouldn't ever work as an anime because the story only works when told from a first person perspective due to certain...plot points. The story itself isn't exactly complicated. Sharin no kuni for example would be really weird as an anime too, I think. (talking to *cough* fairies *cough*)
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: KoiNoDensetsu on December 11, 2009, 04:10:21 pm
I have a feeling Baldr Sky will get an anime.  It's popular and supposedly quite awesome, so I'm sure some anime company will want to cash in on it.

There are many popular and awesome VNs that haven't got anime adaption (where the fuck is Muv-Luv anime adaption?) and a lot of those are also easier to animate than baldr sky. As to properly animate Baldr Sky would be quite hard, altough it wouldn't be imposible to do with small changes. Atleast I don't want another anime like that Baldr Force anime was, it almost completely butchered baldr force.

Muv-Luv actually is getting an anime.  I heard it was just recently announced.  I'm surprised it took this long.

I don't know, I just get this feeling looking at Baldr Force that it is the kind of eroge an anime studio would want to adapt.  True, it might never get adapted, but I just have a feeling an anime will be created.  VNs with multiple releases also suggest that:  1. Enough people bought the first game that there was a sequel. and 2. More story = more seasons = more money.

A CROSS+CHANNEL anime would be EXTREMELY hard to make.  I haven't even played that far through it and I already see how confusing/complicated the story will turn out to be.  That's the same reason there probably isn't an Ever17 anime.

Yeah, well, Ever17 wouldn't ever work as an anime because the story only works when told from a first person perspective due to certain...plot points. The story itself isn't exactly complicated. Sharin no kuni for example would be really weird as an anime too, I think. (talking to *cough* fairies *cough*)

Ever17 not being complicated?!  Wow, that's the first time I've heard that from someone. XD  I don't see how you couldn't see Ever17 as being complicated with all the various theories and myths that are in all the paths. (especially Sora's route...)  That's not to mention that even if they somehow fixed the "perspective" issue, they would somehow have to fit all the girls' paths in and have it still make sense.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Kiru on December 11, 2009, 04:23:26 pm


Muv-Luv actually is getting an anime.  I heard it was just recently announced.  I'm surprised it took this long.

I don't know, I just get this feeling looking at Baldr Force that it is the kind of eroge an anime studio would want to adapt.  True, it might never get adapted, but I just have a feeling an anime will be created.  VNs with multiple releases also suggest that:  1. Enough people bought the first game that there was a sequel. and 2. More story = more seasons = more money.

A CROSS+CHANNEL anime would be EXTREMELY hard to make.  I haven't even played that far through it and I already see how confusing/complicated the story will turn out to be.  That's the same reason there probably isn't an Ever17 anime.

I have to disagree with cross channel. It is (as well as sharin no kuni) completely linear and because of that rather easy to adapt into an anime. The plot may be complex, but there are enough mind-fuck anime out there with complex plots, so yeah.
Both cross channel and sharin no kuni would however need some editing to make it anime-compatible or they don't have to mind going with a 17+ rating.

Baldr sky however has the problem, like ever17, fate/stay night and many other novels, of the "enforced playing-order" routes.
Fate/Stay Night for example did somewhat well with concentrating on FATE but still... you really see a whole lot of plotholes in the anime + this is probably not even posible for baldr sky because of dive2 probably building on of all the three previous routes. ((or only in a really half-assed way... like skipping dive2 or whatever)
Ever17 with its true route has at least... well, the true route which they could adapt, but than again you don't have to finish all the other routes for fun.

But even an adaption of a linear v-novel can totally suck. (Chaos Head... or the more recent 11eyes) They need quite a few episodes and I really doubt that muv-luv or baldr sky will be adapted in a somewhat good way. (edit: though muvluv once again IS liniar. Still pretty long...)


Obviously, anime usually will not show the whole essence of a visual novel, but still... some novels can be adapted far better than others.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: KoiNoDensetsu on December 11, 2009, 04:39:01 pm


Muv-Luv actually is getting an anime.  I heard it was just recently announced.  I'm surprised it took this long.

I don't know, I just get this feeling looking at Baldr Force that it is the kind of eroge an anime studio would want to adapt.  True, it might never get adapted, but I just have a feeling an anime will be created.  VNs with multiple releases also suggest that:  1. Enough people bought the first game that there was a sequel. and 2. More story = more seasons = more money.

A CROSS+CHANNEL anime would be EXTREMELY hard to make.  I haven't even played that far through it and I already see how confusing/complicated the story will turn out to be.  That's the same reason there probably isn't an Ever17 anime.

I have to disagree with cross channel. It is (as well as sharin no kuni) completely linear and because of that rather easy to adapt into an anime. The plot may be complex, but there are enough mind-fuck anime out there with complex plots, so yeah.
Both cross channel and sharin no kuni would however need some editing to make it anime-compatible or they don't have to mind going with a 17+ rating.

I guess I can't make a completely valid statement about a CC anime since I haven't played much passed the first week.  However, what I saw seemed like it would be one similar to Ever17 in that it wouldn't work well in other forms.

Technically, an anime version of Ever17 could be made if the characters had "flashbacks" about events in the other paths, but I don't think it would be worth the time to make since it would essentially just be a condensed spoiler fest, more so then in other eroge-to-anime adaptions.  Besides, pulling off a good Ever17 anime would have to require animators that were REALLY dedicated to making the anime not fail.  I can just picture it turning out like the all-ages ONE ova...
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: DxS on December 11, 2009, 08:47:01 pm
I have a feeling Baldr Sky will get an anime.  It's popular and supposedly quite awesome, so I'm sure some anime company will want to cash in on it.

There are many popular and awesome VNs that haven't got anime adaption (where the fuck is Muv-Luv anime adaption?) and a lot of those are also easier to animate than baldr sky. As to properly animate Baldr Sky would be quite hard, altough it wouldn't be imposible to do with small changes. Atleast I don't want another anime like that Baldr Force anime was, it almost completely butchered baldr force.

Muv-Luv actually is getting an anime.  I heard it was just recently announced.  I'm surprised it took this long.

I don't know, I just get this feeling looking at Baldr Force that it is the kind of eroge an anime studio would want to adapt.  True, it might never get adapted, but I just have a feeling an anime will be created.  VNs with multiple releases also suggest that:  1. Enough people bought the first game that there was a sequel. and 2. More story = more seasons = more money.

A CROSS+CHANNEL anime would be EXTREMELY hard to make.  I haven't even played that far through it and I already see how confusing/complicated the story will turn out to be.  That's the same reason there probably isn't an Ever17 anime.

MuvLuv's getting an anime that's news to men, that'll be pretty cool. I wodner how many episodes there'll be and if they;ll split each game (EX, UL, ALT) into 3 different seasons.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Moriken on December 12, 2009, 02:30:21 am
I have a feeling Baldr Sky will get an anime.  It's popular and supposedly quite awesome, so I'm sure some anime company will want to cash in on it.

There are many popular and awesome VNs that haven't got anime adaption (where the fuck is Muv-Luv anime adaption?) and a lot of those are also easier to animate than baldr sky. As to properly animate Baldr Sky would be quite hard, altough it wouldn't be imposible to do with small changes. Atleast I don't want another anime like that Baldr Force anime was, it almost completely butchered baldr force.

Muv-Luv actually is getting an anime.  I heard it was just recently announced.  I'm surprised it took this long.

I don't know, I just get this feeling looking at Baldr Force that it is the kind of eroge an anime studio would want to adapt.  True, it might never get adapted, but I just have a feeling an anime will be created.  VNs with multiple releases also suggest that:  1. Enough people bought the first game that there was a sequel. and 2. More story = more seasons = more money.

A CROSS+CHANNEL anime would be EXTREMELY hard to make.  I haven't even played that far through it and I already see how confusing/complicated the story will turn out to be.  That's the same reason there probably isn't an Ever17 anime.

MuvLuv's getting an anime that's news to men, that'll be pretty cool. I wodner how many episodes there'll be and if they;ll split each game (EX, UL, ALT) into 3 different seasons.

Actually, does anyone have a source for it? All a (quick) google search in Japanese gave me were rumours on various BBS, dating back till mid 2008, winter 2008 and the latest ones from this november. Not a single one states a source though...so better be wary, who knows if it'll happen. '_'
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Metarail on December 12, 2009, 06:46:33 am
I don't think that there is any concerate evidence that ML anime is in making, altough there has been some new rumor around recently, but then again there has been rumors of ML anime since that horrible akane maniax OVA, which pretty much ends at the point the Muv-Luv starts.

In the end I think that Muv-Luv would be very easy to turn into anime, plot in it isn't that complicated to present in linear way. the hardest part would be adapt alternative so that it would be as adrenaline full as the game is and trying to not make anime look worse than the VN, as alternative has probably one of the biggest budgets in any VN ever and the ammount of effects in it is just mind boggling. So yeah, anime could possibly look worse in action than the VN if done with small budget.

As for Cross+Channel anime, I don't think it would be that hard. It's suprisingly linear in the end. Sharin no Kuni wouldn't be that hard either, I'm sure there would be some nice way they could do that "thing" without breaking it too badly.

As for Ever17 anime, I think it would be quite hard to do in animate due to how it would work without the first person perspective of VN. The route system in it wouldn't that hard to do, just merge both Takeshi routes and kid routes and have story for both of them, and then do 3rd part as Coco route. Altough the going might get bit stale if they repeat things too many times.

As for Baldr Sky anime, it would be hard to do as it relies pretty much on the exposition that you get from all the routes, if done badly it would be one confusing mess of things, see that Baldr Force OVA (it all was even worse that it was only 4 eps long), god it was shitty compared to game. Basically in it you didn't have any idea why everyone did what they did because it animated the last route of the game (it's similar to Sky in that aspect that it relies on exposition from different routes), also in it they pretty much changed most character personalities and motives, removed about 75% of plot elements, and gave everyone emo pillers and then crammed them all in small pot and mixed. In the end you get some nice animation, with shitty version of the orginal plot with as much confusion as possible, and spoilered ending of the game (pretty much the only thing they got right in it).
As for Baldr Sky anime, I could see it done with heavy revisions to story telling. First they would have to animate the past school year section in one go, then *that one spoiler thing from last route* ->  then continue to present story with that spoiler in mind to fit everything in -> then animate the last route of the game almost as it is. This way one could get pretty much the whole story, but told with different story telling methods, you lose the flashback factor with this, but it's replaced with few other things that could counter balance it by creating different kind of experience from VN with story intact.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: DxS on December 12, 2009, 10:21:07 am
I don't think that there is any concerate evidence that ML anime is in making, altough there has been some new rumor around recently, but then again there has been rumors of ML anime since that horrible akane maniax OVA, which pretty much ends at the point the Muv-Luv starts.

In the end I think that Muv-Luv would be very easy to turn into anime, plot in it isn't that complicated to present in linear way. the hardest part would be adapt alternative so that it would be as adrenaline full as the game is and trying to not make anime look worse than the VN, as alternative has probably one of the biggest budgets in any VN ever and the ammount of effects in it is just mind boggling. So yeah, anime could possibly look worse in action than the VN if done with small budget.

As for Cross+Channel anime, I don't think it would be that hard. It's suprisingly linear in the end. Sharin no Kuni wouldn't be that hard either, I'm sure there would be some nice way they could do that "thing" without breaking it too badly.

As for Ever17 anime, I think it would be quite hard to do in animate due to how it would work without the first person perspective of VN. The route system in it wouldn't that hard to do, just merge both Takeshi routes and kid routes and have story for both of them, and then do 3rd part as Coco route. Altough the going might get bit stale if they repeat things too many times.

As for Baldr Sky anime, it would be hard to do as it relies pretty much on the exposition that you get from all the routes, if done badly it would be one confusing mess of things, see that Baldr Force OVA (it all was even worse that it was only 4 eps long), god it was shitty compared to game. Basically in it you didn't have any idea why everyone did what they did because it animated the last route of the game (it's similar to Sky in that aspect that it relies on exposition from different routes), also in it they pretty much changed most character personalities and motives, removed about 75% of plot elements, and gave everyone emo pillers and then crammed them all in small pot and mixed. In the end you get some nice animation, with shitty version of the orginal plot with as much confusion as possible, and spoilered ending of the game (pretty much the only thing they got right in it).
As for Baldr Sky anime, I could see it done with heavy revisions to story telling. First they would have to animate the past school year section in one go, then *that one spoiler thing from last route* ->  then continue to present story with that spoiler in mind to fit everything in -> then animate the last route of the game almost as it is. This way one could get pretty much the whole story, but told with different story telling methods, you lose the flashback factor with this, but it's replaced with few other things that could counter balance it by creating different kind of experience from VN with story intact.

Man that Baldr Force anime really does sound like crap. It would be nice to have a Sharin no Kuni or Cross Channel anime though.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: HyoShin on December 13, 2009, 06:40:20 am
Problem would be that I don't know how they would do things like Kiri scenes or Youko's imprisonment scenes in anime for CC though, since they usually don't put the ecchi scenes in there as much as possible. Maybe just take them out altogether but then it'd feel kind of awkward, in my opinion.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: DxS on December 13, 2009, 11:43:05 am
Problem would be that I don't know how they would do things like Kiri scenes or Youko's imprisonment scenes in anime for CC though, since they usually don't put the ecchi scenes in there as much as possible. Maybe just take them out altogether but then it'd feel kind of awkward, in my opinion.

Well they could always modify the scenes so that it fits in more.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: maitrenuage on December 13, 2009, 03:49:41 pm
currently playing one of the best vn ever (if i say it, it's true ;))

Lamune
(http://ups.imagup.com/01/1233708249_lamune.jpg)
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: DxS on December 13, 2009, 04:10:41 pm
currently playing one of the best vn ever (if i say it, it's true ;))

Lamune
(http://ups.imagup.com/01/1233708249_lamune.jpg)

Well The art sure looks gorgeous.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: KoiNoDensetsu on December 13, 2009, 05:13:24 pm
currently playing one of the best vn ever (if i say it, it's true ;))

Lamune
(http://ups.imagup.com/01/1233708249_lamune.jpg)

Well The art sure looks gorgeous.

I was about to say the same thing.
Is this the Lamune that was mentioned earlier in this thread?  For a supposedly old game, the art sure is good.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: DxS on December 13, 2009, 05:43:12 pm
currently playing one of the best vn ever (if i say it, it's true ;))

Lamune
(http://ups.imagup.com/01/1233708249_lamune.jpg)

Well The art sure looks gorgeous.

I was about to say the same thing.
Is this the Lamune that was mentioned earlier in this thread?  For a supposedly old game, the art sure is good.

I'm guessing its the same one. Anyone care to tell me what the game is about.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: maitrenuage on December 14, 2009, 12:32:45 pm
Tomosaka Kenji moves to a coastal town as a child. The sea spread in front of him shines like ramune, reflecting the sunlight of the summer.

He meets Konoe Nanami, who lives next door. As time passes, their shared memories have accumulated. They think of their normal lives and relationship as precious things.

The sun begins to shine strongly, cicadas begin to buzz, and the sky clears up. For Kenji and Nanami, it is not just another ordinary summer...


getchu : http://www.getchu.com/soft.phtml?id=98741

It's a "pure love" VN.
The fans like me have also watched the anime (12 ep).

Maybe you've also seen the (2) animes of another VN made by Nekoneko : Mizuiro

Now if you like Lamune, you will regret not voting fr Sorairo during the prelims because the story occurs on the same island and even if it's not related to Lamune, one of the girl is the daughter of Nanami and Ken (the two main protagonists of Lamune).
Shame on you lol... (I wanted Sorairo to be translated...)
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: DxS on December 14, 2009, 04:38:52 pm
Tomosaka Kenji moves to a coastal town as a child. The sea spread in front of him shines like ramune, reflecting the sunlight of the summer.

He meets Konoe Nanami, who lives next door. As time passes, their shared memories have accumulated. They think of their normal lives and relationship as precious things.

The sun begins to shine strongly, cicadas begin to buzz, and the sky clears up. For Kenji and Nanami, it is not just another ordinary summer...


getchu : http://www.getchu.com/soft.phtml?id=98741

It's a "pure love" VN.
The fans like me have also watched the anime (12 ep).

Maybe you've also seen the (2) animes of another VN made by Nekoneko : Mizuiro

Now if you like Lamune, you will regret not voting fr Sorairo during the prelims because the story occurs on the same island and even if it's not related to Lamune, one of the girl is the daughter of Nanami and Ken (the two main protagonists of Lamune).
Shame on you lol... (I wanted Sorairo to be translated...)

lol, so they amde both Sorairo and Mizuiro.

It sounds like a good game though.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: KoiNoDensetsu on December 14, 2009, 07:32:21 pm
It looks good, but it can't be the Lamune someone else brought up earlier in this thread.  While five years may seem like long in eroge time, it really isn't that many years. (or even older than KGNE for that matter)
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: DxS on December 14, 2009, 10:54:48 pm
It looks good, but it can't be the Lamune someone else brought up earlier in this thread.  While five years may seem like long in eroge time, it really isn't that many years. (or even older than KGNE for that matter)

I guess that's true. still though Lamune is a pretty old game, I mean I don't think it got any remakes like KGNE.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: maitrenuage on December 19, 2009, 03:57:05 pm
I'm done with Lamune so I decided to try Moero Downhill Night Type R.
I think it only lasts 5H so I'll get rid of it before playing Sieken no Ignarock.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: DxS on December 19, 2009, 05:59:18 pm
I'm done with Lamune so I decided to try Moero Downhill Night Type R.
I think it only lasts 5H so I'll get rid of it before playing Sieken no Ignarock.

I that the one that JAST released, if so tell me your thoughts on it im considering playing it after i'm done with the games currently in my backlog.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: maitrenuage on December 20, 2009, 10:51:07 am
I'm done with Lamune so I decided to try Moero Downhill Night Type R.
I think it only lasts 5H so I'll get rid of it before playing Sieken no Ignarock.

I that the one that JAST released, if so tell me your thoughts on it im considering playing it after i'm done with the games currently in my backlog.

Well... I just cleared Michi's path in 3H and it's true you can finish it in 5H (since the last choice determines who you end up with).
My opinion... It was quite bad because since the game is super short and since there are too many girls (5), it cruely lacks character development...
Half the game consists in you making random choices during the races. (be sure to have the walkthrough if you don't want to repeat the races again and again (one mistake = game over)).
It's also too repetitive meet a girl - talke with her 5 minutes - race - sleep with the girl - ...

I remember how some people didn't like Hinatabokko since it was quite short also but at least HB was full of moe content. MDNTR has nothing like that...

I'll give it a 4/10 on vndb.

I'm sure you can find something better than that. I did buy it because it was cheap and because I want to support JAST, but I have a lot of other VN better than that in my backlog (kanon, sieken, mizuiro, aoshisora, ... or even cosplay fetish academy)
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: KoiNoDensetsu on December 20, 2009, 11:31:11 am
I'm done with Lamune so I decided to try Moero Downhill Night Type R.
I think it only lasts 5H so I'll get rid of it before playing Sieken no Ignarock.

I that the one that JAST released, if so tell me your thoughts on it im considering playing it after i'm done with the games currently in my backlog.

Well... I just cleared Michi's path in 3H and it's true you can finish it in 5H (since the last choice determines who you end up with).
My opinion... It was quite bad because since the game is super short and since there are too many girls (5), it cruely lacks character development...
Half the game consists in you making random choices during the races. (be sure to have the walkthrough if you don't want to repeat the races again and again (one mistake = game over)).
It's also too repetitive meet a girl - talke with her 5 minutes - race - sleep with the girl - ...

I remember how some people didn't like Hinatabokko since it was quite short also but at least HB was full of moe content. MDNTR has nothing like that...

I'll give it a 4/10 on vndb.

I'm sure you can find something better than that. I did buy it because it was cheap and because I want to support JAST, but I have a lot of other VN better than that in my backlog (kanon, sieken, mizuiro, aoshisora, ... or even cosplay fetish academy)

The character designs were just about the only moe thing in HB.  From what I've heard, Moero isn't bad, but just really run of the mill.   Hinata Bokko is just bad with terrible, terrible pacing. (Emotional music plays in a cheesy scene, girl admits her love... WAIT, WHY ARE WE GOING TO A SHOWER SEX SCENE?!)

But yeah, JAST really needs to stop releasing such mediocre games.  If they screw up their Nitro+ games, I have lost all hope in them.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: maitrenuage on December 20, 2009, 12:41:36 pm
In HB at least, the characters were in love several years before the confession.
In Moero, you fall in love with a girl you just met a few days ago and talked 5min with.

Furtermore Michi (the main girl) and Lily are not virgins... How can the canon girl not be a virgin ?
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Balcerzak on December 20, 2009, 02:08:58 pm
How can the canon girl not be a virgin ?
Easy, she's had sex before.

And seriously, why do you care?
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: maitrenuage on December 20, 2009, 03:26:47 pm
How can the canon girl not be a virgin ?
Easy, she's had sex before.

And seriously, why do you care?

Because virgin = true love :D

inb4 used goods... :-\
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: KoiNoDensetsu on December 20, 2009, 10:22:15 pm
In HB at least, the characters were in love several years before the confession.
In Moero, you fall in love with a girl you just met a few days ago and talked 5min with.

HB is worse.  There is just no way of swaying from the obvious truth.

(I need to play Moero now.  Anything worse than HB is amazing...)

Quote
inb4 used goods... :-\

No, not the Nagi excuse again! >_<
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: maitrenuage on December 21, 2009, 01:10:32 am
Anything worse than HB is amazing...

! We should start a "worst VN" topic then :)

The two worst VN I've ever played are

X change (It's difficult for me to be turned on when you're a guy "changed" into a girl and then you're rapped over and over and you like it...)

Amorous professor cherry (after the 5th or 6th blowjob I couldn't stand it anymore)
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: yimw on December 21, 2009, 01:52:05 am
Currently reading Higurashi. I didn't think the first chapter was that great but then the second chapter really blew me away. I've seen the anime so I knew what was going on but it still had me hooked from beginning to end, and there were a couple things I had forgotten about that made me shit bricks. I'm about halfway through the third chapter now and so far it seems to be about as good, but in a different way.

As for the worst VN I've played, it would probably be Wanko to Kurasou. Although there have been quite a few nukige that I lost interest in and uninstalled after a few eroscenes so maybe one of those was worse.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: DxS on December 21, 2009, 08:03:52 am
Anything worse than HB is amazing...

! We should start a "worst VN" topic then :)

The two worst VN I've ever played are

X change (It's difficult for me to be turned on when you're a guy "changed" into a girl and then you're rapped over and over and you like it...)

Amorous professor cherry (after the 5th or 6th blowjob I couldn't stand it anymore)

I'd never play X-Change it seems so disgusting to me.

Amorous Proffesor Cherry I played and beat it, its mainly just a fluff piece no real story but it was somewhat enjoyable.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: the_paper on December 21, 2009, 08:57:31 am
You guys should play some of the ancient Peach Princess English translations of 256-color stuff with MIDI music, like Etsuraku no Gakuen (Love Potion). Now that one was baaaaad. At least it was so over-the-top that it had comedy value.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: izmosmolnar on December 21, 2009, 04:11:22 pm
Fun fact: YU-NO is written by the Kenno Yukihiro / Kanno Hiroyuki who wrote Love Potion.
Yes, everyone agrees that's his worst work. He originally did Desire (http://erogamescape.dyndns.org/~ap2/ero/toukei_kaiseki/game.php?game=3712) in 94 which is pretty excellent, EVE Burst Error (http://erogamescape.dyndns.org/~ap2/ero/toukei_kaiseki/game.php?game=1246#ad) (I love that game too and replay it every once in a while), followed by writing that Love Potion (http://erogamescape.dyndns.org/~ap2/ero/toukei_kaiseki/game.php?game=1242#ad) abomination, then left C'S Ware and went to Élf, whereas he wrote YU-NO.
Desire, EVE, and YU-NO are the so called "Kenno Trilogy", because after leaving Élf he changed names to his real name Kanno Hiroyuki. And the whole trilogy is translated (apart of the last one obviously).

__________
Anyway, case in point, I concur with the_paper. Calling Wanko or Hinatabokko as the worst VN, while there are such gems out there such "Water Closet" or "Pretty Soldier Wars" or the infamous "Pro Lesring" is a bit silly. I could easily think of ~30+ VNs significantly worst than the aforementioned two.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: KoiNoDensetsu on December 21, 2009, 08:19:06 pm
Terrible eroge topic created. ;)  BTW, Peach Princess didn't license those old games.  Himeya ("Otaku") licensed them.  I have most of the games they released, but have only played Divi-Dead.  After I finish their games, I've played basically every officially translated game that I'm interested in.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: AQZT on December 21, 2009, 10:50:04 pm
I am looking forward to MOAR G-Senjou no Maou. There haven't been any updates recently, but I suspect we will get one soon...
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: DxS on December 21, 2009, 11:00:18 pm
Fun fact: YU-NO is written by the Kenno Yukihiro / Kanno Hiroyuki who wrote Love Potion.
Yes, everyone agrees that's his worst work. He originally did Desire (http://erogamescape.dyndns.org/~ap2/ero/toukei_kaiseki/game.php?game=3712) in 94 which is pretty excellent, EVE Burst Error (http://erogamescape.dyndns.org/~ap2/ero/toukei_kaiseki/game.php?game=1246#ad) (I love that game too and replay it every once in a while), followed by writing that Love Potion (http://erogamescape.dyndns.org/~ap2/ero/toukei_kaiseki/game.php?game=1242#ad) abomination, then left C'S Ware and went to Élf, whereas he wrote YU-NO.
Desire, EVE, and YU-NO are the so called "Kenno Trilogy", because after leaving Élf he changed names to his real name Kanno Hiroyuki. And the whole trilogy is translated (apart of the last one obviously).

__________
Anyway, case in point, I concur with the_paper. Calling Wanko or Hinatabokko as the worst VN, while there are such gems out there such "Water Closet" or "Pretty Soldier Wars" or the infamous "Pro Lesring" is a bit silly. I could easily think of ~30+ VNs significantly worst than the aforementioned two.

I'm extremly surprised that i've heard of all of his games before...The only other writers whose works i can remeber compeltly are Nasu and Romeo.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: DxS on December 21, 2009, 11:02:22 pm
Terrible eroge topic created. ;)  BTW, Peach Princess didn't license those old games.  Himeya ("Otaku") licensed them.  I have most of the games they released, but have only played Divi-Dead.  After I finish their games, I've played basically every officially translated game that I'm interested in.

Himeya Otaku, what a strange name I don't think i've heard of that branch of Peach Princess before.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: KoiNoDensetsu on December 22, 2009, 12:03:32 pm
Terrible eroge topic created. ;)  BTW, Peach Princess didn't license those old games.  Himeya ("Otaku") licensed them.  I have most of the games they released, but have only played Divi-Dead.  After I finish their games, I've played basically every officially translated game that I'm interested in.

Himeya Otaku, what a strange name I don't think i've heard of that branch of Peach Princess before.

No, the company that licensed them is Himeya (they run erogeshop and the all-ages Himeya store).  Otaku was the name they put on their English games. (like how JAST has Peach Princess, G-Collections, etc.)
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: yimw on December 22, 2009, 02:08:18 pm
Anyway, case in point, I concur with the_paper. Calling Wanko or Hinatabokko as the worst VN, while there are such gems out there such "Water Closet" or "Pretty Soldier Wars" or the infamous "Pro Lesring" is a bit silly. I could easily think of ~30+ VNs significantly worst than the aforementioned two.

"Worst VN I've played" not necessarily the worst VN in existence.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: KoiNoDensetsu on December 22, 2009, 07:55:58 pm
Anyway, case in point, I concur with the_paper. Calling Wanko or Hinatabokko as the worst VN, while there are such gems out there such "Water Closet" or "Pretty Soldier Wars" or the infamous "Pro Lesring" is a bit silly. I could easily think of ~30+ VNs significantly worst than the aforementioned two.

"Worst VN I've played" not necessarily the worst VN in existence.

Actually, I probably did have more fun with what I played of Water Closet in the long run.  Sure, it wasn't my thing, but at least it was more "interesting" than Hinata Bokko.
But HB isn't the worst game I've played.  That goes to Tokimeki Check-in. (or maybe it is HB; I can't decide for various reasons...)
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: DxS on December 22, 2009, 09:13:15 pm
Terrible eroge topic created. ;)  BTW, Peach Princess didn't license those old games.  Himeya ("Otaku") licensed them.  I have most of the games they released, but have only played Divi-Dead.  After I finish their games, I've played basically every officially translated game that I'm interested in.

Himeya Otaku, what a strange name I don't think i've heard of that branch of Peach Princess before.

No, the company that licensed them is Himeya (they run erogeshop and the all-ages Himeya store).  Otaku was the name they put on their English games. (like how JAST has Peach Princess, G-Collections, etc.)

Oh, ok that makes more sense then.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: DxS on December 22, 2009, 09:13:55 pm
Anyway, case in point, I concur with the_paper. Calling Wanko or Hinatabokko as the worst VN, while there are such gems out there such "Water Closet" or "Pretty Soldier Wars" or the infamous "Pro Lesring" is a bit silly. I could easily think of ~30+ VNs significantly worst than the aforementioned two.

"Worst VN I've played" not necessarily the worst VN in existence.

Actually, I probably did have more fun with what I played of Water Closet in the long run.  Sure, it wasn't my thing, but at least it was more "interesting" than Hinata Bokko.
But HB isn't the worst game I've played.  That goes to Tokimeki Check-in. (or maybe it is HB; I can't decide for various reasons...)

I've never played water closet but isnt calling HB worse than it a bit much...
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: KoiNoDensetsu on December 22, 2009, 09:28:20 pm
Anyway, case in point, I concur with the_paper. Calling Wanko or Hinatabokko as the worst VN, while there are such gems out there such "Water Closet" or "Pretty Soldier Wars" or the infamous "Pro Lesring" is a bit silly. I could easily think of ~30+ VNs significantly worst than the aforementioned two.

"Worst VN I've played" not necessarily the worst VN in existence.

Actually, I probably did have more fun with what I played of Water Closet in the long run.  Sure, it wasn't my thing, but at least it was more "interesting" than Hinata Bokko.
But HB isn't the worst game I've played.  That goes to Tokimeki Check-in. (or maybe it is HB; I can't decide for various reasons...)

I've never played water closet but isnt calling HB worse than it a bit much...

Water Closet was weird, but interesting.  HB has great character designs, but the entire game revolves around uninteresting dialouge and cliches.  Water Closet is better at what it tries to be: a fetish game.  HB fails at the moe aspect.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: DxS on December 22, 2009, 09:37:33 pm
Anyway, case in point, I concur with the_paper. Calling Wanko or Hinatabokko as the worst VN, while there are such gems out there such "Water Closet" or "Pretty Soldier Wars" or the infamous "Pro Lesring" is a bit silly. I could easily think of ~30+ VNs significantly worst than the aforementioned two.

"Worst VN I've played" not necessarily the worst VN in existence.

Actually, I probably did have more fun with what I played of Water Closet in the long run.  Sure, it wasn't my thing, but at least it was more "interesting" than Hinata Bokko.
But HB isn't the worst game I've played.  That goes to Tokimeki Check-in. (or maybe it is HB; I can't decide for various reasons...)

I've never played water closet but isnt calling HB worse than it a bit much...

Water Closet was weird, but interesting.  HB has great character designs, but the entire game revolves around uninteresting dialouge and cliches.  Water Closet is better at what it tries to be: a fetish game.  HB fails at the moe aspect.

I guess i can understand your point if you put it that way.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: maitrenuage on January 01, 2010, 04:51:07 pm
I'm done with Inganock so which VN should I play now ?
Here is my "to play" list :

Edleweiss
Da Capo
Shera my witch
Suika
Cosplay fetish academy
Ishika & Honori
Heart de roommate
Ai yori aoshi
Tsukihime
Mizuiro
Kanon
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: DxS on January 01, 2010, 04:59:54 pm
I'm done with Inganock so which VN should I play now ?
Here is my "to play" list :

Edleweiss
Da Capo
Shera my witch
Suika
Cosplay fetish academy
Ishika & Honori
Heart de roommate
Ai yori aoshi
Tsukihime
Mizuiro
Kanon

I'd reccomend playing Edelweiss Kanon and Tsukihime first out of that list IMO they're the best ones out of that list, Heart de Roomate too but that game's more of a fluffy game.

Though i've heard that Mizuiro is also very good.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: KoiNoDensetsu on January 01, 2010, 07:43:52 pm
I'm done with Inganock so which VN should I play now ?
Here is my "to play" list :

Edleweiss
Da Capo
Shera my witch
Suika
Cosplay fetish academy
Ishika & Honori
Heart de roommate
Ai yori aoshi
Tsukihime
Mizuiro
Kanon

I'd reccomend playing Edelweiss Kanon and Tsukihime first out of that list IMO they're the best ones out of that list, Heart de Roomate too but that game's more of a fluffy game.

Though i've heard that Mizuiro is also very good.

I second that, but go with Tsukihime.  I haven't played it, but it looks great and is highly praised.  Kanon is okay, but not that great.  Edeleweiss has a crappy translation, but is supposed to be good.

I hated Heart de Roommate.  Well, maybe that isn't the way to put it...  I just found it so... "meh" the entire time.  It wasn't HB/Tokimeki Check in bad, but it is a lot longer.  I didn't find any of the humor funny, the characters all annoying (I hated most of them...), the "plot" non-existant, H-scenes terrible, etc.  The other Angelsmile games are great though.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Kiru on January 02, 2010, 09:01:18 am
If you can wait... wait with Tsukihime.

Type Moon IS developing a remake and well... audio- and visual-aspects of the current game are really... bad.

Furthermore they might add some bonus-content which probably will be translated by someone as well. (I mean, it's Tsukihime )
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Mazyrian on January 02, 2010, 09:12:58 am
I third Tsukihime. It's true that they're making a remake, but until it's out, and until it's translated (if there is much new content) it can pass a while.
Da Capo I liked, though it's more of a moefest. Suika on the other hand I consider very good.
Kanon I found little more than average at best. Heart de Roommate I couldn't past the first hour or so.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: maitrenuage on January 02, 2010, 09:57:41 am
I'll play Tsukihime then. (in the end it doesn't really matter since I have to play them all... even all those VN just next to me who ask me endlessly "why did you buy us if you don't want to play us ?"... I'm  sorry... I just bought you because there was nothing else at that time... lol).

Now that I think about it, I forgot Aoishiro. I wonder if it's a good VN...
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: DxS on January 02, 2010, 11:02:49 am
I'm done with Inganock so which VN should I play now ?
Here is my "to play" list :

Edleweiss
Da Capo
Shera my witch
Suika
Cosplay fetish academy
Ishika & Honori
Heart de roommate
Ai yori aoshi
Tsukihime
Mizuiro
Kanon

I'd reccomend playing Edelweiss Kanon and Tsukihime first out of that list IMO they're the best ones out of that list, Heart de Roomate too but that game's more of a fluffy game.

Though i've heard that Mizuiro is also very good.

I second that, but go with Tsukihime.  I haven't played it, but it looks great and is highly praised.  Kanon is okay, but not that great.  Edeleweiss has a crappy translation, but is supposed to be good.

I hated Heart de Roommate.  Well, maybe that isn't the way to put it...  I just found it so... "meh" the entire time.  It wasn't HB/Tokimeki Check in bad, but it is a lot longer.  I didn't find any of the humor funny, the characters all annoying (I hated most of them...), the "plot" non-existant, H-scenes terrible, etc.  The other Angelsmile games are great though.

I guess I can understand that I think I would have hated it jsu as much if I played it hoping for another great game like Private Nurse, luckily I knew what kind ofg ame it was and wasn't expecting a plot like that and I enjoyed it somewhat.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: DxS on January 02, 2010, 11:03:53 am
I third Tsukihime. It's true that they're making a remake, but until it's out, and until it's translated (if there is much new content) it can pass a while.
Da Capo I liked, though it's more of a moefest. Suika on the other hand I consider very good.
Kanon I found little more than average at best. Heart de Roommate I couldn't past the first hour or so.

Well on the nte of the new content i'm pretty sure they're adding in the route that was cut from the original Tsukihime.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: DxS on January 02, 2010, 11:04:50 am
I'll play Tsukihime then. (in the end it doesn't really matter since I have to play them all... even all those VN just next to me who ask me endlessly "why did you buy us if you don't want to play us ?"... I'm  sorry... I just bought you because there was nothing else at that time... lol).

Now that I think about it, I forgot Aoishiro. I wonder if it's a good VN...

lol, well good luck my winter break is about to end plus I have exams coming up ina couple weeks so i don't really ahve time for VNs T___T
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Kiru on January 02, 2010, 12:16:50 pm
Now that I think about it, I forgot Aoishiro. I wonder if it's a good VN...

It's.. good, yeah... but not perfect. However, you don't really have much choice if you like some shoujo-ai in your english-vn. (Even though there isn't really that much in it)

It's biggest negative-points are actually that the best characters do not have a route and you have the famous "enforced playing-order"...


edit: Oh, and it starts kinda slow if you do the Yasumi-Route first... which you should.
edit2: Pretty good production-values: tons of CG and very good music... well enough with the edits...
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: DxS on January 02, 2010, 07:00:26 pm
Now that I think about it, I forgot Aoishiro. I wonder if it's a good VN...

It's.. good, yeah... but not perfect. However, you don't really have much choice if you like some shoujo-ai in your english-vn. (Even though there isn't really that much in it)

It's biggest negative-points are actually that the best characters do not have a route and you have the famous "enforced playing-order"...


edit: Oh, and it starts kinda slow if you do the Yasumi-Route first... which you should.
edit2: Pretty good production-values: tons of CG and very good music... well enough with the edits...

Enforced playing order? You mean like Fate/Stay Night where the routes went Fate > Unlimited Blade Works > Heaven's Feel?
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: maitrenuage on January 03, 2010, 02:06:18 am
Now that I think about it, I forgot Aoishiro. I wonder if it's a good VN...

It's.. good, yeah... but not perfect. However, you don't really have much choice if you like some shoujo-ai in your english-vn. (Even though there isn't really that much in it)

It's biggest negative-points are actually that the best characters do not have a route and you have the famous "enforced playing-order"...


edit: Oh, and it starts kinda slow if you do the Yasumi-Route first... which you should.
edit2: Pretty good production-values: tons of CG and very good music... well enough with the edits...

Enforced playing order? You mean like Fate/Stay Night where the routes went Fate > Unlimited Blade Works > Heaven's Feel?

Or just like you have to let Kana die 4 times before you can save her :)
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Kiru on January 03, 2010, 02:51:01 am
Now that I think about it, I forgot Aoishiro. I wonder if it's a good VN...

It's.. good, yeah... but not perfect. However, you don't really have much choice if you like some shoujo-ai in your english-vn. (Even though there isn't really that much in it)

It's biggest negative-points are actually that the best characters do not have a route and you have the famous "enforced playing-order"...


edit: Oh, and it starts kinda slow if you do the Yasumi-Route first... which you should.
edit2: Pretty good production-values: tons of CG and very good music... well enough with the edits...

Enforced playing order? You mean like Fate/Stay Night where the routes went Fate > Unlimited Blade Works > Heaven's Feel?

Kinda. You basically can play more than one route from the beginning, however only two can be completed with a good end. (which unlocks certain seals so you can play the third route, which unlocks a seal so you can play the fourth and fifth route which once again unlocks a seal to play the grand/final route)
Though some routes are really "locked", others can simply be advanced until a certain point where you'll get a bad end... and trust me, aoi shiro has even more endings than fate and is a LOT shorter. :D
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: DxS on January 03, 2010, 02:15:23 pm
Now that I think about it, I forgot Aoishiro. I wonder if it's a good VN...

It's.. good, yeah... but not perfect. However, you don't really have much choice if you like some shoujo-ai in your english-vn. (Even though there isn't really that much in it)

It's biggest negative-points are actually that the best characters do not have a route and you have the famous "enforced playing-order"...


edit: Oh, and it starts kinda slow if you do the Yasumi-Route first... which you should.
edit2: Pretty good production-values: tons of CG and very good music... well enough with the edits...

Enforced playing order? You mean like Fate/Stay Night where the routes went Fate > Unlimited Blade Works > Heaven's Feel?

Kinda. You basically can play more than one route from the beginning, however only two can be completed with a good end. (which unlocks certain seals so you can play the third route, which unlocks a seal so you can play the fourth and fifth route which once again unlocks a seal to play the grand/final route)
Though some routes are really "locked", others can simply be advanced until a certain point where you'll get a bad end... and trust me, aoi shiro has even more endings than fate and is a LOT shorter. :D

Wow...more than 40 bad ends now that's a lot.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: KoiNoDensetsu on January 06, 2010, 09:30:17 pm
Now that I think about it, I forgot Aoishiro. I wonder if it's a good VN...

It's.. good, yeah... but not perfect. However, you don't really have much choice if you like some shoujo-ai in your english-vn. (Even though there isn't really that much in it)

It's biggest negative-points are actually that the best characters do not have a route and you have the famous "enforced playing-order"...


edit: Oh, and it starts kinda slow if you do the Yasumi-Route first... which you should.
edit2: Pretty good production-values: tons of CG and very good music... well enough with the edits...

Enforced playing order? You mean like Fate/Stay Night where the routes went Fate > Unlimited Blade Works > Heaven's Feel?

Kinda. You basically can play more than one route from the beginning, however only two can be completed with a good end. (which unlocks certain seals so you can play the third route, which unlocks a seal so you can play the fourth and fifth route which once again unlocks a seal to play the grand/final route)
Though some routes are really "locked", others can simply be advanced until a certain point where you'll get a bad end... and trust me, aoi shiro has even more endings than fate and is a LOT shorter. :D

Wow...more than 40 bad ends now that's a lot.

I hope they are all yandere ends.  Yuri yandere... ;D
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Kiru on January 07, 2010, 02:16:13 am
Now that I think about it, I forgot Aoishiro. I wonder if it's a good VN...

It's.. good, yeah... but not perfect. However, you don't really have much choice if you like some shoujo-ai in your english-vn. (Even though there isn't really that much in it)

It's biggest negative-points are actually that the best characters do not have a route and you have the famous "enforced playing-order"...


edit: Oh, and it starts kinda slow if you do the Yasumi-Route first... which you should.
edit2: Pretty good production-values: tons of CG and very good music... well enough with the edits...

Enforced playing order? You mean like Fate/Stay Night where the routes went Fate > Unlimited Blade Works > Heaven's Feel?

Kinda. You basically can play more than one route from the beginning, however only two can be completed with a good end. (which unlocks certain seals so you can play the third route, which unlocks a seal so you can play the fourth and fifth route which once again unlocks a seal to play the grand/final route)
Though some routes are really "locked", others can simply be advanced until a certain point where you'll get a bad end... and trust me, aoi shiro has even more endings than fate and is a LOT shorter. :D

Wow...more than 40 bad ends now that's a lot.

I hope they are all yandere ends.  Yuri yandere... ;D

Nah. Bad End = You die :D
Though there are quite some epic dying-ways like getting blown in the air by a hurricane and well... :D Nice last moment.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: DxS on January 07, 2010, 01:44:23 pm
Now that I think about it, I forgot Aoishiro. I wonder if it's a good VN...

It's.. good, yeah... but not perfect. However, you don't really have much choice if you like some shoujo-ai in your english-vn. (Even though there isn't really that much in it)

It's biggest negative-points are actually that the best characters do not have a route and you have the famous "enforced playing-order"...


edit: Oh, and it starts kinda slow if you do the Yasumi-Route first... which you should.
edit2: Pretty good production-values: tons of CG and very good music... well enough with the edits...

Enforced playing order? You mean like Fate/Stay Night where the routes went Fate > Unlimited Blade Works > Heaven's Feel?

Kinda. You basically can play more than one route from the beginning, however only two can be completed with a good end. (which unlocks certain seals so you can play the third route, which unlocks a seal so you can play the fourth and fifth route which once again unlocks a seal to play the grand/final route)
Though some routes are really "locked", others can simply be advanced until a certain point where you'll get a bad end... and trust me, aoi shiro has even more endings than fate and is a LOT shorter. :D

Wow...more than 40 bad ends now that's a lot.

I hope they are all yandere ends.  Yuri yandere... ;D

Nah. Bad End = You die :D
Though there are quite some epic dying-ways like getting blown in the air by a hurricane and well... :D Nice last moment.

That hurrican bit seems quite strange.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: KoiNoDensetsu on January 07, 2010, 09:39:42 pm
Now that I think about it, I forgot Aoishiro. I wonder if it's a good VN...

It's.. good, yeah... but not perfect. However, you don't really have much choice if you like some shoujo-ai in your english-vn. (Even though there isn't really that much in it)

It's biggest negative-points are actually that the best characters do not have a route and you have the famous "enforced playing-order"...


edit: Oh, and it starts kinda slow if you do the Yasumi-Route first... which you should.
edit2: Pretty good production-values: tons of CG and very good music... well enough with the edits...

Enforced playing order? You mean like Fate/Stay Night where the routes went Fate > Unlimited Blade Works > Heaven's Feel?

Kinda. You basically can play more than one route from the beginning, however only two can be completed with a good end. (which unlocks certain seals so you can play the third route, which unlocks a seal so you can play the fourth and fifth route which once again unlocks a seal to play the grand/final route)
Though some routes are really "locked", others can simply be advanced until a certain point where you'll get a bad end... and trust me, aoi shiro has even more endings than fate and is a LOT shorter. :D

Wow...more than 40 bad ends now that's a lot.

I hope they are all yandere ends.  Yuri yandere... ;D

Nah. Bad End = You die :D
Though there are quite some epic dying-ways like getting blown in the air by a hurricane and well... :D Nice last moment.

Yuri hurricanes sound amazing.

Fixed. ;)
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: DxS on January 08, 2010, 09:03:17 pm
Now that I think about it, I forgot Aoishiro. I wonder if it's a good VN...

It's.. good, yeah... but not perfect. However, you don't really have much choice if you like some shoujo-ai in your english-vn. (Even though there isn't really that much in it)

It's biggest negative-points are actually that the best characters do not have a route and you have the famous "enforced playing-order"...


edit: Oh, and it starts kinda slow if you do the Yasumi-Route first... which you should.
edit2: Pretty good production-values: tons of CG and very good music... well enough with the edits...

Enforced playing order? You mean like Fate/Stay Night where the routes went Fate > Unlimited Blade Works > Heaven's Feel?

Kinda. You basically can play more than one route from the beginning, however only two can be completed with a good end. (which unlocks certain seals so you can play the third route, which unlocks a seal so you can play the fourth and fifth route which once again unlocks a seal to play the grand/final route)
Though some routes are really "locked", others can simply be advanced until a certain point where you'll get a bad end... and trust me, aoi shiro has even more endings than fate and is a LOT shorter. :D

Wow...more than 40 bad ends now that's a lot.

I hope they are all yandere ends.  Yuri yandere... ;D

Nah. Bad End = You die :D
Though there are quite some epic dying-ways like getting blown in the air by a hurricane and well... :D Nice last moment.

Yuri hurricanes sound amazing.

Fixed. ;)

Yuri hurricanes but how would that...OH now i see, your a genius =P
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: KoiNoDensetsu on January 08, 2010, 10:30:54 pm
Now that I think about it, I forgot Aoishiro. I wonder if it's a good VN...

It's.. good, yeah... but not perfect. However, you don't really have much choice if you like some shoujo-ai in your english-vn. (Even though there isn't really that much in it)

It's biggest negative-points are actually that the best characters do not have a route and you have the famous "enforced playing-order"...


edit: Oh, and it starts kinda slow if you do the Yasumi-Route first... which you should.
edit2: Pretty good production-values: tons of CG and very good music... well enough with the edits...

Enforced playing order? You mean like Fate/Stay Night where the routes went Fate > Unlimited Blade Works > Heaven's Feel?

Kinda. You basically can play more than one route from the beginning, however only two can be completed with a good end. (which unlocks certain seals so you can play the third route, which unlocks a seal so you can play the fourth and fifth route which once again unlocks a seal to play the grand/final route)
Though some routes are really "locked", others can simply be advanced until a certain point where you'll get a bad end... and trust me, aoi shiro has even more endings than fate and is a LOT shorter. :D

Wow...more than 40 bad ends now that's a lot.

I hope they are all yandere ends.  Yuri yandere... ;D

Nah. Bad End = You die :D
Though there are quite some epic dying-ways like getting blown in the air by a hurricane and well... :D Nice last moment.

Yuri hurricanes sound amazing.

Fixed. ;)

Yuri hurricanes but how would that...OH now i see, your a genius =P

If I ever write a doujin visual novel, I will now put a "yuri hurricane" scene in it. ;D  Imagine the greatness!
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: DxS on January 10, 2010, 10:02:16 am
Now that I think about it, I forgot Aoishiro. I wonder if it's a good VN...

It's.. good, yeah... but not perfect. However, you don't really have much choice if you like some shoujo-ai in your english-vn. (Even though there isn't really that much in it)

It's biggest negative-points are actually that the best characters do not have a route and you have the famous "enforced playing-order"...


edit: Oh, and it starts kinda slow if you do the Yasumi-Route first... which you should.
edit2: Pretty good production-values: tons of CG and very good music... well enough with the edits...

Enforced playing order? You mean like Fate/Stay Night where the routes went Fate > Unlimited Blade Works > Heaven's Feel?

Kinda. You basically can play more than one route from the beginning, however only two can be completed with a good end. (which unlocks certain seals so you can play the third route, which unlocks a seal so you can play the fourth and fifth route which once again unlocks a seal to play the grand/final route)
Though some routes are really "locked", others can simply be advanced until a certain point where you'll get a bad end... and trust me, aoi shiro has even more endings than fate and is a LOT shorter. :D

Wow...more than 40 bad ends now that's a lot.

I hope they are all yandere ends.  Yuri yandere... ;D

Nah. Bad End = You die :D
Though there are quite some epic dying-ways like getting blown in the air by a hurricane and well... :D Nice last moment.

Yuri hurricanes sound amazing.

Fixed. ;)

Yuri hurricanes but how would that...OH now i see, your a genius =P

If I ever write a doujin visual novel, I will now put a "yuri hurricane" scene in it. ;D  Imagine the greatness!

lol, you gonna write one like the one Moogy wrote then?
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: KoiNoDensetsu on January 12, 2010, 08:17:14 pm
Now that I think about it, I forgot Aoishiro. I wonder if it's a good VN...

It's.. good, yeah... but not perfect. However, you don't really have much choice if you like some shoujo-ai in your english-vn. (Even though there isn't really that much in it)

It's biggest negative-points are actually that the best characters do not have a route and you have the famous "enforced playing-order"...


edit: Oh, and it starts kinda slow if you do the Yasumi-Route first... which you should.
edit2: Pretty good production-values: tons of CG and very good music... well enough with the edits...

Enforced playing order? You mean like Fate/Stay Night where the routes went Fate > Unlimited Blade Works > Heaven's Feel?

Kinda. You basically can play more than one route from the beginning, however only two can be completed with a good end. (which unlocks certain seals so you can play the third route, which unlocks a seal so you can play the fourth and fifth route which once again unlocks a seal to play the grand/final route)
Though some routes are really "locked", others can simply be advanced until a certain point where you'll get a bad end... and trust me, aoi shiro has even more endings than fate and is a LOT shorter. :D

Wow...more than 40 bad ends now that's a lot.

I hope they are all yandere ends.  Yuri yandere... ;D

Nah. Bad End = You die :D
Though there are quite some epic dying-ways like getting blown in the air by a hurricane and well... :D Nice last moment.

Yuri hurricanes sound amazing.

Fixed. ;)

Yuri hurricanes but how would that...OH now i see, your a genius =P

If I ever write a doujin visual novel, I will now put a "yuri hurricane" scene in it. ;D  Imagine the greatness!

lol, you gonna write one like the one Moogy wrote then?

I probably will some day.  I could definitely write some hilarious dialogue, but I know nothing about programming and wouldn't be able to draw art.  I guess I could try using something easy like Ren'py for programming, but I'm not sure it would turn out that great if it was just text.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: DxS on January 12, 2010, 09:36:08 pm
Yea, because Moogy definetly had some awesoem art in his VN your gonna have to try really hard to top that.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Gore on January 13, 2010, 01:02:30 am
About to give Dies irae a try, then the next one is probably gonna be Sumaga. Or maybe I'll finally try Baldr.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: DxS on January 13, 2010, 07:50:25 pm
About to give Dies irae a try, then the next one is probably gonna be Sumaga. Or maybe I'll finally try Baldr.

Go with Baldr I heard Sumaga isnt as great as most people say. Where's your avatar from?
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Gore on January 13, 2010, 08:00:13 pm
About to give Dies irae a try, then the next one is probably gonna be Sumaga. Or maybe I'll finally try Baldr.

Go with Baldr I heard Sumaga isnt as great as most people say. Where's your avatar from?

It's from Gekkou no Carnevale, that's Lunaria and Anna. I ended up choosing Muramasa actually, I'm only about 8 hours in but so far I'd say this was a good choice.

Dies irae though....apparently I installed it wrong, because it kept bleeping and saying ERROR at the top, while popping up 8-bit nintendo boxes every now and then. For nearly an hour I honestly believed it was part of the story, then I started to get annoyed and finally realized it was an actual fucking error. I deleted it and moved on to Muramasa, didn't care enough to figure out what the problem was.

Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: KoiNoDensetsu on January 13, 2010, 09:03:09 pm
Yea, because Moogy definetly had some awesoem art in his VN your gonna have to try really hard to top that.

Dude I know!!!  It blew me away in its epicness!

But the idea I have in mine would need art.  Nothing special, but I want my school girls visualized!!
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: KoiNoDensetsu on January 13, 2010, 09:04:21 pm
About to give Dies irae a try, then the next one is probably gonna be Sumaga. Or maybe I'll finally try Baldr.

Yeah, I would agree with DxS.  Baldr is supposed to be better.  Still give Sumaga a try though.  It's supposed to be depressing. ;D

BTW great avatar.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Gore on January 13, 2010, 09:41:56 pm
About to give Dies irae a try, then the next one is probably gonna be Sumaga. Or maybe I'll finally try Baldr.

Yeah, I would agree with DxS.  Baldr is supposed to be better.  Still give Sumaga a try though.  It's supposed to be depressing. ;D

BTW great avatar.

Ahh thanks! I like your Akane too, is she an option in Kimi ga Nozomu Eien? I only know her through Muvluv Extra & Alternative. Ever since I finished Alternative I been meaning to give that game a try to do Haruka's route.

Also does anyone know what the difficulty level on reading Muramasa is suppose to be, it's really difficult for me. I still need alot of help from Mecab/Jparser on VN's, but I can't even use them on this. I've had to switch to Atlas, somehow I understand more that way.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: KoiNoDensetsu on January 13, 2010, 09:55:47 pm
About to give Dies irae a try, then the next one is probably gonna be Sumaga. Or maybe I'll finally try Baldr.

Yeah, I would agree with DxS.  Baldr is supposed to be better.  Still give Sumaga a try though.  It's supposed to be depressing. ;D

BTW great avatar.

Ahh thanks! I like your Akane too, is she an option in Kimi ga Nozomu Eien? I only know her through Muvluv Extra & Alternative. Ever since I finished Alternative I been meaning to give that game a try to do Haruka's route.

Also does anyone know what the difficulty level on reading Muramasa is suppose to be, it's really difficult for me. I still need alot of help from Mecab/Jparser on VN's, but I can't even use them on this. I've had to switch to Atlas, somehow I understand more that way.

Yes, she is actually one of the main heroines.  All of the female characters in KGNE have a path. (excluding the female doctor whose name I can't remember)  Akane's popularity seems to be high.  Most fans of MuvLuv and KGNE seem to like her a lot. ;D
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Gore on January 13, 2010, 10:28:19 pm
About to give Dies irae a try, then the next one is probably gonna be Sumaga. Or maybe I'll finally try Baldr.

Yeah, I would agree with DxS.  Baldr is supposed to be better.  Still give Sumaga a try though.  It's supposed to be depressing. ;D

BTW great avatar.

Ahh thanks! I like your Akane too, is she an option in Kimi ga Nozomu Eien? I only know her through Muvluv Extra & Alternative. Ever since I finished Alternative I been meaning to give that game a try to do Haruka's route.

Also does anyone know what the difficulty level on reading Muramasa is suppose to be, it's really difficult for me. I still need alot of help from Mecab/Jparser on VN's, but I can't even use them on this. I've had to switch to Atlas, somehow I understand more that way.

Yes, she is actually one of the main heroines.  All of the female characters in KGNE have a path. (excluding the female doctor whose name I can't remember)  Akane's popularity seems to be high.  Most fans of MuvLuv and KGNE seem to like her a lot. ;D

Yeah even the few people I've discussed Alternative with, all seem to be Akane fans. Guess I'm not surprised, it explains why she got her own OVA. Which I have not watched yet, was it any good?
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Ixrec on January 13, 2010, 10:59:06 pm
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Yeah even the few people I've discussed Alternative with, all seem to be Akane fans.

I'm a Mitsuki fan. Discuss.

Also, in a facetious effort to return to the original topic, I started playing 11eyes last night. It's good.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: AQZT on January 13, 2010, 11:03:42 pm
About to give Dies irae a try, then the next one is probably gonna be Sumaga. Or maybe I'll finally try Baldr.

Yeah, I would agree with DxS.  Baldr is supposed to be better.  Still give Sumaga a try though.  It's supposed to be depressing. ;D

BTW great avatar.

Ahh thanks! I like your Akane too, is she an option in Kimi ga Nozomu Eien? I only know her through Muvluv Extra & Alternative. Ever since I finished Alternative I been meaning to give that game a try to do Haruka's route.

Also does anyone know what the difficulty level on reading Muramasa is suppose to be, it's really difficult for me. I still need alot of help from Mecab/Jparser on VN's, but I can't even use them on this. I've had to switch to Atlas, somehow I understand more that way.

Yes, she is actually one of the main heroines.  All of the female characters in KGNE have a path. (excluding the female doctor whose name I can't remember)  Akane's popularity seems to be high.  Most fans of MuvLuv and KGNE seem to like her a lot. ;D
Why? Is she SUPAH awesome? I no understand...  ???
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Gore on January 13, 2010, 11:16:42 pm
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Yeah even the few people I've discussed Alternative with, all seem to be Akane fans.

I'm a Mitsuki fan. Discuss.

Also, in a facetious effort to return to the original topic, I started playing 11eyes last night. It's good.

So far I'm the only Haruka fan.

11eyes kind of looks like Fate/stay to me, is this a premature assumption or am I pretty close? I'm probably just gonna wait for a translation on that one, seems like the type that would get one.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Ixrec on January 13, 2010, 11:22:42 pm
I remember once hearing Moogy say that those wanting "another FSN" should look at 11eyes rather than FHA. I've been interested since then, and from the little bit I've seen there are some pretty obvious similarities (opening flashback involving lots of fire, rather ordinary school life stuff in the beginning, etc.).
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Gore on January 13, 2010, 11:48:26 pm
Well I had no interest in FHA from day one anyways. As much as I enjoyed Fate/Stay, after playing Kagetsu Tohya it was obvious right from the start what FHA would be. And from what I hear, it really is just like Kagetsu.

11 hours into Muramasa and I'm still learning the history of the world. I can tell this is going to be a very very long game. Awesome so far though, my guess is that I'll end up with a 9 or 9.5. I'm reading really slow though, probably going to take me a few weeks.

Also it's nice to play another game with Alternatives resolution. Just looks so much better.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: KoiNoDensetsu on January 14, 2010, 12:32:29 am
About to give Dies irae a try, then the next one is probably gonna be Sumaga. Or maybe I'll finally try Baldr.

Yeah, I would agree with DxS.  Baldr is supposed to be better.  Still give Sumaga a try though.  It's supposed to be depressing. ;D

BTW great avatar.

Ahh thanks! I like your Akane too, is she an option in Kimi ga Nozomu Eien? I only know her through Muvluv Extra & Alternative. Ever since I finished Alternative I been meaning to give that game a try to do Haruka's route.

Also does anyone know what the difficulty level on reading Muramasa is suppose to be, it's really difficult for me. I still need alot of help from Mecab/Jparser on VN's, but I can't even use them on this. I've had to switch to Atlas, somehow I understand more that way.

Yes, she is actually one of the main heroines.  All of the female characters in KGNE have a path. (excluding the female doctor whose name I can't remember)  Akane's popularity seems to be high.  Most fans of MuvLuv and KGNE seem to like her a lot. ;D

Yeah even the few people I've discussed Alternative with, all seem to be Akane fans. Guess I'm not surprised, it explains why she got her own OVA. Which I have not watched yet, was it any good?

Not really, actually. ;)  It's about this crazy guy that stalks this innocent bishoujo - Suzumiya Akane - while gundam invade the earth.  It could have been great, but it's fairly mediocre.  It's based on one of the many (http://www.age-soft.co.jp/products.htm) KGNE spin-offs/fandisks.  I will admit that the OVA made me like Akane more as a character though.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: KoiNoDensetsu on January 14, 2010, 12:45:50 am
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Yeah even the few people I've discussed Alternative with, all seem to be Akane fans.

I'm a Mitsuki fan. Discuss.

Also, in a facetious effort to return to the original topic, I started playing 11eyes last night. It's good.

That doesn't mean you aren't an Akane fan as well, now does it? ;)

I like Mitsuki as a character, but she's too flawed.  I actually HATED her while watching the anime. (as most people who have seen the anime feel)  I assume that what the MuvLuv Mitsuki is the KGNE Chapter 1 Mitsuki. (this is before she becomes at all dislikable)  But from what I've seen of the game, she's less of a bitch in the game.  All of the characters in KGNE have flaws, but Mitsuki is... too flawed.

Why I dislike her (major spoilers for the anime/some of Mitsuki's path; this forum needs spoiler tags...):

In the anime, Mitsuki basically acts like a self-centered slut.  Right after her best friend (Haruka) falls into a coma, she starts dating her boyfriend (Takayuki).  When her best friend wakes up, she doesn't want Takayuki to see Haruka and gets all offended by the idea that he is "cheating" on her.  Mitsuki is extremely unsympathetic to her friend the entire time after she wakes up from the coma.  To "get back" at Takayuki, Mitsuki sleeps with Takayuki's best friend.  When Takayuki "figures out that his true love is really Mitsuki", Mitsuki basically tells him that she doesn't need him anymore but still "takes him back". (plus more stuff that I don't feel like typing/forgot about)  She basically acts like Koushiro's female co-worker in Koi Kaze. (if you still remember that anime)  She probably looks better during these events in the game (since as I mentioned before, she's more likable there), but I doubt she completely redeems herself.  She also basically abandons Takayuki in Manami's normal/bad ending and lets him get the crap beaten out of himself...

[/spoilers]

Summary: Mitsuki's character is great, but she acts like a bitch in some events.

Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: KoiNoDensetsu on January 14, 2010, 12:48:39 am
About to give Dies irae a try, then the next one is probably gonna be Sumaga. Or maybe I'll finally try Baldr.

Yeah, I would agree with DxS.  Baldr is supposed to be better.  Still give Sumaga a try though.  It's supposed to be depressing. ;D

BTW great avatar.

Ahh thanks! I like your Akane too, is she an option in Kimi ga Nozomu Eien? I only know her through Muvluv Extra & Alternative. Ever since I finished Alternative I been meaning to give that game a try to do Haruka's route.

Also does anyone know what the difficulty level on reading Muramasa is suppose to be, it's really difficult for me. I still need alot of help from Mecab/Jparser on VN's, but I can't even use them on this. I've had to switch to Atlas, somehow I understand more that way.

Yes, she is actually one of the main heroines.  All of the female characters in KGNE have a path. (excluding the female doctor whose name I can't remember)  Akane's popularity seems to be high.  Most fans of MuvLuv and KGNE seem to like her a lot. ;D
Why? Is she SUPAH awesome? I no understand...  ???

It is quite simple: She is my Akanechan! ;D

Seriously though, Akane is a great character because she's moe, funny, and, well, simply likable.  She's like a combination of Mitsuki and Haruka, but without the things that make me dislike them.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Kiru on January 14, 2010, 04:09:18 am
About to give Dies irae a try, then the next one is probably gonna be Sumaga. Or maybe I'll finally try Baldr.

Yeah, I would agree with DxS.  Baldr is supposed to be better.  Still give Sumaga a try though.  It's supposed to be depressing. ;D

BTW great avatar.

Ahh thanks! I like your Akane too, is she an option in Kimi ga Nozomu Eien? I only know her through Muvluv Extra & Alternative. Ever since I finished Alternative I been meaning to give that game a try to do Haruka's route.

Also does anyone know what the difficulty level on reading Muramasa is suppose to be, it's really difficult for me. I still need alot of help from Mecab/Jparser on VN's, but I can't even use them on this. I've had to switch to Atlas, somehow I understand more that way.

Yes, she is actually one of the main heroines.  All of the female characters in KGNE have a path. (excluding the female doctor whose name I can't remember)  Akane's popularity seems to be high.  Most fans of MuvLuv and KGNE seem to like her a lot. ;D
Why? Is she SUPAH awesome? I no understand...  ???

It is quite simple: She is my Akanechan! ;D

Seriously though, Akane is a great character because she's moe, funny, and, well, simply likable.  She's like a combination of Mitsuki and Haruka, but without the things that make me dislike them.

Hm I think she's only interesting because she and her sister love the same person. (Or at least there should be one storyline like that^^)
Combine this with her love for her sister and at least I have a story I may like... or not. Too much angst isn't really my thing. :D
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: maitrenuage on January 14, 2010, 12:17:47 pm
Quote
Yeah even the few people I've discussed Alternative with, all seem to be Akane fans.

I'm a Mitsuki fan. Discuss.

Also, in a facetious effort to return to the original topic, I started playing 11eyes last night. It's good.

That doesn't mean you aren't an Akane fan as well, now does it? ;)

I like Mitsuki as a character, but she's too flawed.  I actually HATED her while watching the anime. (as most people who have seen the anime feel)  I assume that what the MuvLuv Mitsuki is the KGNE Chapter 1 Mitsuki. (this is before she becomes at all dislikable)  But from what I've seen of the game, she's less of a bitch in the game.  All of the characters in KGNE have flaws, but Mitsuki is... too flawed.

Why I dislike her (major spoilers for the anime/some of Mitsuki's path; this forum needs spoiler tags...):

In the anime, Mitsuki basically acts like a self-centered slut.  Right after her best friend (Haruka) falls into a coma, she starts dating her boyfriend (Takayuki).  When her best friend wakes up, she doesn't want Takayuki to see Haruka and gets all offended by the idea that he is "cheating" on her.  Mitsuki is extremely unsympathetic to her friend the entire time after she wakes up from the coma.  To "get back" at Takayuki, Mitsuki sleeps with Takayuki's best friend.  When Takayuki "figures out that his true love is really Mitsuki", Mitsuki basically tells him that she doesn't need him anymore but still "takes him back". (plus more stuff that I don't feel like typing/forgot about)  She basically acts like Koushiro's female co-worker in Koi Kaze. (if you still remember that anime)  She probably looks better during these events in the game (since as I mentioned before, she's more likable there), but I doubt she completely redeems herself.  She also basically abandons Takayuki in Manami's normal/bad ending and lets him get the crap beaten out of himself...

[/spoilers]

Summary: Mitsuki's character is great, but she acts like a bitch in some events.

That's why I hate Mitsuki and KGNE.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: KoiNoDensetsu on January 14, 2010, 07:15:42 pm
About to give Dies irae a try, then the next one is probably gonna be Sumaga. Or maybe I'll finally try Baldr.

Yeah, I would agree with DxS.  Baldr is supposed to be better.  Still give Sumaga a try though.  It's supposed to be depressing. ;D

BTW great avatar.

Ahh thanks! I like your Akane too, is she an option in Kimi ga Nozomu Eien? I only know her through Muvluv Extra & Alternative. Ever since I finished Alternative I been meaning to give that game a try to do Haruka's route.

Also does anyone know what the difficulty level on reading Muramasa is suppose to be, it's really difficult for me. I still need alot of help from Mecab/Jparser on VN's, but I can't even use them on this. I've had to switch to Atlas, somehow I understand more that way.

Yes, she is actually one of the main heroines.  All of the female characters in KGNE have a path. (excluding the female doctor whose name I can't remember)  Akane's popularity seems to be high.  Most fans of MuvLuv and KGNE seem to like her a lot. ;D
Why? Is she SUPAH awesome? I no understand...  ???

It is quite simple: She is my Akanechan! ;D

Seriously though, Akane is a great character because she's moe, funny, and, well, simply likable.  She's like a combination of Mitsuki and Haruka, but without the things that make me dislike them.

Hm I think she's only interesting because she and her sister love the same person. (Or at least there should be one storyline like that^^)
Combine this with her love for her sister and at least I have a story I may like... or not. Too much angst isn't really my thing. :D

I'm not really sure what happens in her path (besides the fact that she goes into a coma at the end), but her path is (naturally) considered by many who have played the KGNE game to be the best.

Here's two videos from her path that randomly got (a little awkwardly) translated:

Part 1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DOwPvYMxccs&feature=related)
Part 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Teb3CLrZHho&feature=related)

The voice acting is so good!! >_<
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: KoiNoDensetsu on January 14, 2010, 07:16:59 pm
Quote
Yeah even the few people I've discussed Alternative with, all seem to be Akane fans.

I'm a Mitsuki fan. Discuss.

Also, in a facetious effort to return to the original topic, I started playing 11eyes last night. It's good.

That doesn't mean you aren't an Akane fan as well, now does it? ;)

I like Mitsuki as a character, but she's too flawed.  I actually HATED her while watching the anime. (as most people who have seen the anime feel)  I assume that what the MuvLuv Mitsuki is the KGNE Chapter 1 Mitsuki. (this is before she becomes at all dislikable)  But from what I've seen of the game, she's less of a bitch in the game.  All of the characters in KGNE have flaws, but Mitsuki is... too flawed.

Why I dislike her (major spoilers for the anime/some of Mitsuki's path; this forum needs spoiler tags...):

In the anime, Mitsuki basically acts like a self-centered slut.  Right after her best friend (Haruka) falls into a coma, she starts dating her boyfriend (Takayuki).  When her best friend wakes up, she doesn't want Takayuki to see Haruka and gets all offended by the idea that he is "cheating" on her.  Mitsuki is extremely unsympathetic to her friend the entire time after she wakes up from the coma.  To "get back" at Takayuki, Mitsuki sleeps with Takayuki's best friend.  When Takayuki "figures out that his true love is really Mitsuki", Mitsuki basically tells him that she doesn't need him anymore but still "takes him back". (plus more stuff that I don't feel like typing/forgot about)  She basically acts like Koushiro's female co-worker in Koi Kaze. (if you still remember that anime)  She probably looks better during these events in the game (since as I mentioned before, she's more likable there), but I doubt she completely redeems herself.  She also basically abandons Takayuki in Manami's normal/bad ending and lets him get the crap beaten out of himself...

[/spoilers]

Summary: Mitsuki's character is great, but she acts like a bitch in some events.

That's why I hate Mitsuki and KGNE.

That's why I am not really looking forward to playing her path since she's less bitchy in the other stories.  Her path is supposed to be one of the worst anyway.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: DxS on January 14, 2010, 08:29:19 pm
I remember once hearing Moogy say that those wanting "another FSN" should look at 11eyes rather than FHA. I've been interested since then, and from the little bit I've seen there are some pretty obvious similarities (opening flashback involving lots of fire, rather ordinary school life stuff in the beginning, etc.).

Wel i'm glad to know that your atleast enjoying 11/eyes, that way as long as it gets above 8 it still has a chance of being translated by you even if it doesn't get picked this time.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: DxS on January 14, 2010, 08:31:41 pm
Quote
Yeah even the few people I've discussed Alternative with, all seem to be Akane fans.

I'm a Mitsuki fan. Discuss.

Also, in a facetious effort to return to the original topic, I started playing 11eyes last night. It's good.

That doesn't mean you aren't an Akane fan as well, now does it? ;)

I like Mitsuki as a character, but she's too flawed.  I actually HATED her while watching the anime. (as most people who have seen the anime feel)  I assume that what the MuvLuv Mitsuki is the KGNE Chapter 1 Mitsuki. (this is before she becomes at all dislikable)  But from what I've seen of the game, she's less of a bitch in the game.  All of the characters in KGNE have flaws, but Mitsuki is... too flawed.

Why I dislike her (major spoilers for the anime/some of Mitsuki's path; this forum needs spoiler tags...):

In the anime, Mitsuki basically acts like a self-centered slut.  Right after her best friend (Haruka) falls into a coma, she starts dating her boyfriend (Takayuki).  When her best friend wakes up, she doesn't want Takayuki to see Haruka and gets all offended by the idea that he is "cheating" on her.  Mitsuki is extremely unsympathetic to her friend the entire time after she wakes up from the coma.  To "get back" at Takayuki, Mitsuki sleeps with Takayuki's best friend.  When Takayuki "figures out that his true love is really Mitsuki", Mitsuki basically tells him that she doesn't need him anymore but still "takes him back". (plus more stuff that I don't feel like typing/forgot about)  She basically acts like Koushiro's female co-worker in Koi Kaze. (if you still remember that anime)  She probably looks better during these events in the game (since as I mentioned before, she's more likable there), but I doubt she completely redeems herself.  She also basically abandons Takayuki in Manami's normal/bad ending and lets him get the crap beaten out of himself...

[/spoilers]

Summary: Mitsuki's character is great, but she acts like a bitch in some events.

That's why I hate Mitsuki and KGNE.

That's why I am not really looking forward to playing her path since she's less bitchy in the other stories.  Her path is supposed to be one of the worst anyway.

Hopefully, since I can't really say i'm liking what I've heard about her so far.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Ixrec on January 14, 2010, 08:38:07 pm
I remember once hearing Moogy say that those wanting "another FSN" should look at 11eyes rather than FHA. I've been interested since then, and from the little bit I've seen there are some pretty obvious similarities (opening flashback involving lots of fire, rather ordinary school life stuff in the beginning, etc.).

Wel i'm glad to know that your atleast enjoying 11/eyes, that way as long as it gets above 8 it still has a chance of being translated by you even if it doesn't get picked this time.

>above 8

8s are perfectly eligible for translation, they're just lower priority than 9s. And so far 11eyes actually has a decent chance at an 8, though it's gonna have to up the ante a bit.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: DxS on January 14, 2010, 08:39:46 pm
I remember once hearing Moogy say that those wanting "another FSN" should look at 11eyes rather than FHA. I've been interested since then, and from the little bit I've seen there are some pretty obvious similarities (opening flashback involving lots of fire, rather ordinary school life stuff in the beginning, etc.).

Wel i'm glad to know that your atleast enjoying 11/eyes, that way as long as it gets above 8 it still has a chance of being translated by you even if it doesn't get picked this time.

>above 8

8s are perfectly eligible for translation, they're just lower priority than 9s. And so far 11eyes actually has a decent chance at an 8, though it's gonna have to up the ante a bit.

Well that's good to hear, so you enjoying your "break" so far?
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Ixrec on January 14, 2010, 08:44:39 pm
Hard to really tell if I'm in a break or not, so I'm just gonna say it's been several weeks since I was not enjoying life in general.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: DxS on January 14, 2010, 08:51:53 pm
Hard to really tell if I'm in a break or not, so I'm just gonna say it's been several weeks since I was not enjoying life in general.

Well that's good i suppsoe, though i did put break in quotations for a reasn <___<
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: KoiNoDensetsu on January 14, 2010, 09:36:42 pm
At least you are liking 11eyes more than you originally thought you would.  I remember you making a statement that you didn't think it would be more than a 6/10 eroge.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Ixrec on January 14, 2010, 09:48:58 pm
At least you are liking 11eyes more than you originally thought you would.  I remember you making a statement that you didn't think it would be more than a 6/10 eroge.

Clearly, I saw far more things than I can ever hope to remember.

I went into it expecting a 7. At the moment, it's at a 7.5, fighting for an 8 but not there yet.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Gore on January 14, 2010, 09:49:27 pm
A large reason KGNE has been side-barred for me is my hate for Age's protagonists. I watched Rumbling hearts years ago so I have all the proof I need that the KGNE dude is no different from Takeru. This "Indecisive Protagonist" shit just does it in for me.

I recall one specific part where Haruka was crying about all the time she lost and what happened to her. She clearly needed comfort, and what does he do? He just runs away, and not the superficial version of "runs away" that they always say in anime, I mean LITERALLY he fucking high tails it out of there for no reason. I was completely speechless. For some reason a lot of people other than me like this nonsense, maybe I'm just detached.

If anyone has played the VN and can say he's not as bad as I'm imagining then please do, because I really do want to do Haruka's route.

Also on topic, Muramasa pulled a Marimo on me last night, but it was a good surprise this time. I doubt anyone else liked it though.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: KoiNoDensetsu on January 14, 2010, 09:54:26 pm
A large reason KGNE has been side-barred for me is my hate for Age's protagonists. I watched Rumbling hearts years ago so I have all the proof I need that the KGNE dude is no different from Takeru. This "Indecisive Protagonist" shit just does it in for me.

I recall one specific part where Haruka was crying about all the time she lost and what happened to her. She clearly needed comfort, and what does he do? He just runs away, and not the superficial version of "runs away" that they always say in anime, I mean LITERALLY he fucking high tails it out of there for no reason. I was completely speechless. For some reason a lot of people other than me like this nonsense, maybe I'm just detached.

If anyone has played the VN and can say he's not as bad as I'm imagining then please do, because I really do want to do Haruka's route.

Also on topic, Muramasa pulled a Marimo on me last night, but it was a good surprise this time. I doubt anyone else liked it though.

I have played the game and he's not NEARLY as bad as in the anime.  Well, at least the first chapter (which I completely understood) and parts of the second chapter.  The game makes all the characters so much more likable (and less... stupid) - even Mitsuki.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Gore on January 14, 2010, 10:39:55 pm

The game makes all the characters so much more likable (and less... stupid) - even Mitsuki.

This right here is good to hear, I'll probably only do Haruka and Akane's route anyways. So I should be fine.

It's funny though, I think I'm the only person who went into Alternative without knowing Mitsuki and Haruka were going to be in it. When they were introduced it really bothered me, cause I had the feeling I should know who they were but I couldn't figure it out. When I found out Haruka was Akane's older sister then it all came back to me. Up to this point I didn't even know Muvluv shared the same world as KGNE.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: izmosmolnar on January 15, 2010, 06:28:28 am
It's from Gekkou no Carnevale, that's Lunaria and Anna.
I'm playing it right now, pretty cool. It's really like some being in some kinda oldschool mafia film with werewolves and stuff. Perla and Carmelo are awesome characters. Carmelo's scenes had me laughing heartily, I hope he doesn't die soon. Aiming on Noel's route right now.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Gore on January 15, 2010, 07:22:47 am
It's from Gekkou no Carnevale, that's Lunaria and Anna.
I'm playing it right now, pretty cool. It's really like some being in some kinda oldschool mafia film with werewolves and stuff. Perla and Carmelo are awesome characters. Carmelo's scenes had me laughing heartily, I hope he doesn't die soon. Aiming on Noel's route right now.

Yeah I enjoyed the game quite a bit, I had a few problems with it though. Like Lunaria's route, I hated how they did that. I just said this on /jp/ didn't I, something tells me you were the person I was talking to. In fact we were probably the only two people in that thread.

Carmelo is awesome for sure though, he's hilarious to me. I like him the most in Anna's route.

Also, where the hell is my Perla route.

(http://img2.pict.com/09/46/73/2513887/0/800/1254922379184.jpg)

I love this picture of her.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: DxS on January 15, 2010, 01:51:20 pm
It's from Gekkou no Carnevale, that's Lunaria and Anna.
I'm playing it right now, pretty cool. It's really like some being in some kinda oldschool mafia film with werewolves and stuff. Perla and Carmelo are awesome characters. Carmelo's scenes had me laughing heartily, I hope he doesn't die soon. Aiming on Noel's route right now.

Yeah I enjoyed the game quite a bit, I had a few problems with it though. Like Lunaria's route, I hated how they did that. I just said this on /jp/ didn't I, something tells me you were the person I was talking to. In fact we were probably the only two people in that thread.

Carmelo is awesome for sure though, he's hilarious to me. I like him the most in Anna's route.

Also, where the hell is my Perla route.

(http://img2.pict.com/09/46/73/2513887/0/800/1254922379184.jpg)

I love this picture of her.

She looks cute, in a mischevious sort of way. And your Avatar looks extremly hawt.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: izmosmolnar on January 15, 2010, 04:14:34 pm
Yeah I enjoyed the game quite a bit, I had a few problems with it though. Like Lunaria's route, I hated how they did that. I just said this on /jp/ didn't I, something tells me you were the person I was talking to. In fact we were probably the only two people in that thread.

Carmelo is awesome for sure though, he's hilarious to me. I like him the most in Anna's route.

Also, where the hell is my Perla route.
[...]
Yeah it's the thread I made, but there are more people than just us discussing it.
I'm about to start Noel's route soon, it's been pretty great so far. Amazing atmosphere and really likable characters (at least until now).
I didn't wanted to go on Anna's route, as I completed "Hello, World." recently (truly awesome game, even though it took me more than a month to finish) and I have an inkling that Anna's story would feel kinda similar to it regarding character developments.
Yeah I was disappointed when I checked the tlwiki  after meeting with Perla for the first time, and saw that she doesn't have a route. I totally fallen for her when she lovingly said:
Quote
Paolo:"Why was I called here today?"
Perla:"I cannot answer that."
Paolo:"Will Carmelo be given back?"
Perla:"I cannot answer that."
Paolo:"What're your measurements?"
Perla:"I cannot answer that."
Paolo:"Don't say that. Come on, what about just your hips?"
Perla:"I will tell you one piece of private information--"
The servant suddenly stopped walking. She opened the pocketwatch, making a clink.
Perla:"My hobby is taking people who waste, sully, or use up my precious time and making them maggots lower than feces, as that is a fitting punishment.
I give them food that is more than two weeks past expiration, causing vomiting, then I collect and preserve that vomit.
When preserving, I boil the collected vomit in a large jar.
Partially digested waste has many different colors mixed together. Ahh, it is reminiscent of a microcosm."
But, the jar's size is fixed. There is no helping it when some of the stock overflows.
I take that spilled vomit and, with a tube in the anus, to return it to the thankful donor's rectum.
I have a variety of interests.
Do you enjoy that kind of play?"
Paolo:"I'm sorry.Hurry and take me."
Perla:"Do you enjoy that kind of play?"
Paolo:"I hate it, hate it. I detest it!"
Perla:"However, it has an invigorating scent."
Paolo:"I don't even want to smell it!"
Perla:"I understand. Of course, while it is unfortunate, I will, unfortunately, not force you.
It is terribly unfortunate."
(Translation taken from the tlwiki script)

Well it's not rare for Nitroplus to do the most awesome female with no routes, I guess. Junko, one of the best females of HW is also without route (or even a riskier CG), while there's a full hscene with the alpha robots (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hf0nKJBll-s), who are like totally insignificant characters. Such a shame.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Gore on January 15, 2010, 08:13:30 pm
Now that you mention Hello, World I finally realize why your name/ava looks familiar. I just subbed to you a few days ago on youtube. I love that damn Shinjisougeki song.

Gekkou was awesome on the first playthrough, but for some reason when I did Noel and Lunaria's routes it just felt so...repetetive(spelling?). I haven't bothered doing Rebecca's yet since I hate her, my only hope for that route is that it has a lot more werewolf action than the previous routes(although Anna's did have quite a bit).

By the way have you met Davide yet? That guy is damn funny, at least to me he is.

Hello, World is another one I have backlogged, maybe I'll make that my next Nitro+ title. I still can't decide if I want to play Baldr next. Seems like the type of game that would get a translation, so do I wait or not. Not quite sure.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: AQZT on January 15, 2010, 08:37:43 pm
@Gore
Just FYI the correct spelling is: Repetitive
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Gore on January 15, 2010, 09:13:14 pm
Ahh thanks AQ.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Ixrec on January 15, 2010, 09:20:04 pm
I still can't decide if I want to play Baldr next. Seems like the type of game that would get a translation, so do I wait or not. Not quite sure.

It has a translator and hacker already, it's just a matter of time. How much time I have no idea.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: KoiNoDensetsu on January 15, 2010, 09:28:56 pm

The game makes all the characters so much more likable (and less... stupid) - even Mitsuki.

This right here is good to hear, I'll probably only do Haruka and Akane's route anyways. So I should be fine.

It's funny though, I think I'm the only person who went into Alternative without knowing Mitsuki and Haruka were going to be in it. When they were introduced it really bothered me, cause I had the feeling I should know who they were but I couldn't figure it out. When I found out Haruka was Akane's older sister then it all came back to me. Up to this point I didn't even know Muvluv shared the same world as KGNE.

I have a question for you now: Does the KGNE characters act the same in MLA as they do in the anime (or of what you have seen of the game (if any))?
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Gore on January 15, 2010, 10:09:35 pm

I have a question for you now: Does the KGNE characters act the same in MLA as they do in the anime (or of what you have seen of the game (if any))?

I watched the anime when it first came out, I barely remember anything. Just a few parts that really pissed me off are stuck in my head. I'm going to assume they act the same though, from everything I've heard on them in KGNE, their personalities line up perfectly.

Except Mitsuki isn't really a bitch. If at any moment it seemed like she was, then that's just because she's ranked above everyone in the platoon except uh....what was her name. Damnit I can't remember, anyways she was ranked 2nd in the platoon, and eventually first.

Don't expect to see the KGNE protag though, they bring him up a few times but that's it.

Also that's good to hear Ixrec, I didn't know this.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: KoiNoDensetsu on January 15, 2010, 10:32:39 pm

I have a question for you now: Does the KGNE characters act the same in MLA as they do in the anime (or of what you have seen of the game (if any))?

I watched the anime when it first came out, I barely remember anything. Just a few parts that really pissed me off are stuck in my head. I'm going to assume they act the same though, from everything I've heard on them in KGNE, their personalities line up perfectly.

Except Mitsuki isn't really a bitch. If at any moment it seemed like she was, then that's just because she's ranked above everyone in the platoon except [n]uh....what was her name[/b]. Damnit I can't remember, anyways she was ranked 2nd in the platoon, and eventually first.

Don't expect to see the KGNE protag though, they bring him up a few times but that's it.

Also that's good to hear Ixrec, I didn't know this.

Ayu?  Manami?  AKANE??

But thanks. ;)
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Ixrec on January 15, 2010, 10:51:18 pm

I have a question for you now: Does the KGNE characters act the same in MLA as they do in the anime (or of what you have seen of the game (if any))?

I watched the anime when it first came out, I barely remember anything. Just a few parts that really pissed me off are stuck in my head. I'm going to assume they act the same though, from everything I've heard on them in KGNE, their personalities line up perfectly.

Except Mitsuki isn't really a bitch. If at any moment it seemed like she was, then that's just because she's ranked above everyone in the platoon except [n]uh....what was her name[/b]. Damnit I can't remember, anyways she was ranked 2nd in the platoon, and eventually first.

Don't expect to see the KGNE protag though, they bring him up a few times but that's it.

Also that's good to hear Ixrec, I didn't know this.

Ayu?  Manami?  AKANE??

But thanks. ;)

伊隅 みちる(いすみ みちる)Isumi Michiru. Original chara I believe.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: izmosmolnar on January 15, 2010, 11:00:39 pm
Oh I didn't realize it's you. Yeah, all of the Talestune doujin VNs I've read are good (albeit Shinjisougeki is really the weakest of them), but they all share great music. I especially loved Ludesia's.
Well, Hello World's biggest flaw is redoing the same scenes with insignificant text alterations while doing someone else's route, and the lack of an instant skip function (if there's one game needing it, that's it, and not those liarsoft games). Additionally I felt like sometimes the skip function was buggy and stopped at parts I could have sworn I've read already. It's still worth almost every minute of it, even with that kinda flawed routestructure. Kazuki is just an enormously entertaining protagonist, with an unbelievable of amount of character development, and he's easily in my top3 of favorite male MCs.
No, I haven't met Davide yet. (At least I think I didn't.). But yeah Rebecca definitely going to be the last one I'm going to play, really detestable bitch, from what I've seen of her. Hopefully I won't find it that repetitive.
Yeah, BS is quite likely getting a translation sooner or later, which is why it's pretty low on my wishlist.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Gore on January 15, 2010, 11:27:56 pm
Yeah I grabbed Ludesia after looking up talestune stuff after that, I got it sitting here for whenever I choose that.

The "Kazuki is just an enormously entertaining protagnoist" has me interested, since my major fault with VN's is I almost always have multiple problems with the protag.

Davide appears at the same time as Lunaria, if your in Noel's route now then you are probably really close to them. Rebecca gets even worse, MUCH worse after routes are chosen. Some of the shit she does...and the fact that retribution is never given is what angers me the most.

Speaking of protagonists, if Minato from Muramasa stays the way he is, he'll probably end up being my favorite one. I'm so sick of being the whiny kid who acts like girls have cooties. Minato is on a completely different level, he's the protag I always wanted(so far). I'm shocked that Japan really seemed to enjoy this game, considering how much they love being the indecisive schoolboy.

伊隅 みちる(いすみ みちる)Isumi Michiru. Original chara I believe.

Yep that's her, but she's an original character? I always assumed everyone from the platoon were side characters in KGNE.

Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Ixrec on January 15, 2010, 11:48:03 pm
伊隅 みちる(いすみ みちる)Isumi Michiru. Original chara I believe.

Yep that's her, but she's an original character? I always assumed everyone from the platoon were side characters in KGNE.



I'm just guessing really. It's just as likely they are all from KGNE.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: DxS on January 16, 2010, 10:07:26 am
Yeah I enjoyed the game quite a bit, I had a few problems with it though. Like Lunaria's route, I hated how they did that. I just said this on /jp/ didn't I, something tells me you were the person I was talking to. In fact we were probably the only two people in that thread.

Carmelo is awesome for sure though, he's hilarious to me. I like him the most in Anna's route.

Also, where the hell is my Perla route.
[...]
Yeah it's the thread I made, but there are more people than just us discussing it.
I'm about to start Noel's route soon, it's been pretty great so far. Amazing atmosphere and really likable characters (at least until now).
I didn't wanted to go on Anna's route, as I completed "Hello, World." recently (truly awesome game, even though it took me more than a month to finish) and I have an inkling that Anna's story would feel kinda similar to it regarding character developments.
Yeah I was disappointed when I checked the tlwiki  after meeting with Perla for the first time, and saw that she doesn't have a route. I totally fallen for her when she lovingly said:
Quote
Paolo:"Why was I called here today?"
Perla:"I cannot answer that."
Paolo:"Will Carmelo be given back?"
Perla:"I cannot answer that."
Paolo:"What're your measurements?"
Perla:"I cannot answer that."
Paolo:"Don't say that. Come on, what about just your hips?"
Perla:"I will tell you one piece of private information--"
The servant suddenly stopped walking. She opened the pocketwatch, making a clink.
Perla:"My hobby is taking people who waste, sully, or use up my precious time and making them maggots lower than feces, as that is a fitting punishment.
I give them food that is more than two weeks past expiration, causing vomiting, then I collect and preserve that vomit.
When preserving, I boil the collected vomit in a large jar.
Partially digested waste has many different colors mixed together. Ahh, it is reminiscent of a microcosm."
But, the jar's size is fixed. There is no helping it when some of the stock overflows.
I take that spilled vomit and, with a tube in the anus, to return it to the thankful donor's rectum.
I have a variety of interests.
Do you enjoy that kind of play?"
Paolo:"I'm sorry.Hurry and take me."
Perla:"Do you enjoy that kind of play?"
Paolo:"I hate it, hate it. I detest it!"
Perla:"However, it has an invigorating scent."
Paolo:"I don't even want to smell it!"
Perla:"I understand. Of course, while it is unfortunate, I will, unfortunately, not force you.
It is terribly unfortunate."
(Translation taken from the tlwiki script)

Well it's not rare for Nitroplus to do the most awesome female with no routes, I guess. Junko, one of the best females of HW is also without route (or even a riskier CG), while there's a full hscene with the alpha robots (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hf0nKJBll-s), who are like totally insignificant characters. Such a shame.

lol, now that soudnbs pretty funny xD too bad she doesn;t have a route then, it sounds like it could have been pretty cool.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Gore on January 16, 2010, 10:42:17 pm
Yeah I was terribly disappointed that she didn't have one. Her devotion to Anna makes her all the more appealing too.

Also does anyone know any "detective" VN's? I'm not saying you have to actually be a police officer, just something that is high on mystery but not ridiculous on fantasy. For instance I loved the questions chapter of Higurashi and the first episode of Umineko, but after that.....

Kara no Shoujo at first glance seems to fit this critique, anything else?
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: izmosmolnar on January 16, 2010, 10:57:09 pm
YU-NO, EVE Burst Error and the other games in the series, Policenauts, Desire, Cartagra, Kara no Shoujo, Caucasus, Mystereet series, Detective Gentleman.

I'd recommend the first four (I'd rank them probably in this order), haven't really played the others. (I tried Mystereet, but it has too many things for me).
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: KoiNoDensetsu on January 16, 2010, 11:13:44 pm
伊隅 みちる(いすみ みちる)Isumi Michiru. Original chara I believe.

Yep that's her, but she's an original character? I always assumed everyone from the platoon were side characters in KGNE.



I'm just guessing really. It's just as likely they are all from KGNE.

Unless Isumi is a minor character in KimiNozo like Chizuru, then she is a MLA-only character.  I had never heard the name before.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Gore on January 17, 2010, 12:01:08 am
YU-NO, EVE Burst Error and the other games in the series, Policenauts, Desire, Cartagra, Kara no Shoujo, Caucasus, Mystereet series, Detective Gentleman.

I'd recommend the first four (I'd rank them probably in this order), haven't really played the others. (I tried Mystereet, but it has too many things for me).

Why thank you Iz, I completely forgot about EVE. The last three on that last I've never heard of before, gonna have to look those up.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: DxS on January 17, 2010, 12:39:53 am
Yeah I was terribly disappointed that she didn't have one. Her devotion to Anna makes her all the more appealing too.

Also does anyone know any "detective" VN's? I'm not saying you have to actually be a police officer, just something that is high on mystery but not ridiculous on fantasy. For instance I loved the questions chapter of Higurashi and the first episode of Umineko, but after that.....

Kara no Shoujo at first glance seems to fit this critique, anything else?

Kara no Shoujo definetly seems interesting, can't wait for that to get translated. Though I didn't know YU-NO was considered a detective VN I mean I knew it had its share of mysteries in the story but I didn't think there were that many, it just makes me want to read it more.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: KoiNoDensetsu on January 17, 2010, 01:20:13 am
Yeah I was terribly disappointed that she didn't have one. Her devotion to Anna makes her all the more appealing too.

Also does anyone know any "detective" VN's? I'm not saying you have to actually be a police officer, just something that is high on mystery but not ridiculous on fantasy. For instance I loved the questions chapter of Higurashi and the first episode of Umineko, but after that.....

Kara no Shoujo at first glance seems to fit this critique, anything else?

Kara no Shoujo definetly seems interesting, can't wait for that to get translated. Though I didn't know YU-NO was considered a detective VN I mean I knew it had its share of mysteries in the story but I didn't think there were that many, it just makes me want to read it more.

Same here on that.  I have no idea what YU-NO is about, but I assumed it to be something more "mysterious" in a fantasy sense then an actual "mystery".
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Gore on January 17, 2010, 01:25:46 am
Yeah I was terribly disappointed that she didn't have one. Her devotion to Anna makes her all the more appealing too.

Also does anyone know any "detective" VN's? I'm not saying you have to actually be a police officer, just something that is high on mystery but not ridiculous on fantasy. For instance I loved the questions chapter of Higurashi and the first episode of Umineko, but after that.....

Kara no Shoujo at first glance seems to fit this critique, anything else?

Kara no Shoujo definetly seems interesting, can't wait for that to get translated. Though I didn't know YU-NO was considered a detective VN I mean I knew it had its share of mysteries in the story but I didn't think there were that many, it just makes me want to read it more.

Same here on that.  I have no idea what YU-NO is about, but I assumed it to be something more "mysterious" in a fantasy sense then an actual "mystery".

This is exactly what I assumed. Either way I'm looking forward to it though.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: izmosmolnar on January 17, 2010, 03:09:23 am
While it's true that the protag is just a delinquent student with some family crisis, I'd still say it's detective-ish in a sense that you piece together a giant puzzle by traveling in different timezones and dimensions, finding many clues, plus using your items, collecting Jewels, all in the purpose to solve a complexly intertwined mystery, and find out the answers to the many questions you've encountered. Play the teaser patch if you want to see a small part of those questions.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Gore on January 17, 2010, 04:16:26 am
While it's true that the protag is just a delinquent student with some family crisis, I'd still say it's detective-ish in a sense that you piece together a giant puzzle by traveling in different timezones and dimensions, finding many clues, plus using your items, collecting Jewels, all in the purpose to solve a complexly intertwined mystery, and find out the answers to the many questions you've encountered. Play the teaser patch if you want to see a small part of those questions.

That...sounds quite awesome actually. Are there paths or is it linear?
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: izmosmolnar on January 17, 2010, 05:56:10 am
Uh, it's hard to explain, because of the really unique Jewel System.
There are 5 normal routes (Main routes as we call them) of the game (with "complete" ends and "not destined" ends), and the Epilogue Section (=Last 1/3 of the game) with the true ending at its very end.
These normal routes are focusing on different things and clues (not just the heroines they are supposed to be about), and while you are clearing the Jewelmap (http://www.tsukuru.info/tlwiki/index.php?title=File:Yu-no_walkthrough_english.jpg), sooner or later you have to collect all the 8 Jewels, which then enables you to go onto the aforementioned last 1/3 of the game. That 1/3 of the game is, uh... just really different than the first 2/3 (and is what makes the game bloody awesome).
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Gore on January 17, 2010, 06:24:58 am
Uh, it's hard to explain, because of the really unique Jewel System.
There are 5 normal routes (Main routes as we call them) of the game (with "complete" ends and "not destined" ends), and the Epilogue Section (=Last 1/3 of the game) with the true ending at its very end.
These normal routes are focusing on different things and clues (not just the heroines they are supposed to be about), and while you are clearing the Jewelmap (http://www.tsukuru.info/tlwiki/index.php?title=File:Yu-no_walkthrough_english.jpg), sooner or later you have to collect all the 8 Jewels, which then enables you to go onto the aforementioned last 1/3 of the game. That 1/3 of the game is, uh... just really different than the first 2/3 (and is what makes the game bloody awesome).

I had to read that about 5 times but I finally get the jist of it. That Jewel map looks like an extreme version of the Kagetsu Walkthrough, normally I'd be shunned but this time it makes it more interesting to me for some reason.

Thanks for the summary Iz.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: maitrenuage on January 17, 2010, 11:41:39 am
Still playing Tsukihime..
It's long... and I hate Ciel :)
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: DxS on January 17, 2010, 01:11:47 pm
Still playing Tsukihime..
It's long... and I hate Ciel :)

I personally can't say I enjoyed Ciel's route either.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: DxS on January 17, 2010, 01:12:35 pm
Uh, it's hard to explain, because of the really unique Jewel System.
There are 5 normal routes (Main routes as we call them) of the game (with "complete" ends and "not destined" ends), and the Epilogue Section (=Last 1/3 of the game) with the true ending at its very end.
These normal routes are focusing on different things and clues (not just the heroines they are supposed to be about), and while you are clearing the Jewelmap (http://www.tsukuru.info/tlwiki/index.php?title=File:Yu-no_walkthrough_english.jpg), sooner or later you have to collect all the 8 Jewels, which then enables you to go onto the aforementioned last 1/3 of the game. That 1/3 of the game is, uh... just really different than the first 2/3 (and is what makes the game bloody awesome).

dam....Now i'm really hoping the translation finished quickly so that I can play through YU-NO during my summer vacation.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: AQZT on January 17, 2010, 01:16:03 pm
Still playing Tsukihime..
It's long... and I hate Ciel :)
Same.
I liked Arcueid a lot more.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: DxS on January 17, 2010, 01:23:50 pm
Still playing Tsukihime..
It's long... and I hate Ciel :)
Same.
I liked Arcueid a lot more.

Yea, Arcuied was so cute and the True ending was so tragic.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: AQZT on January 17, 2010, 01:38:56 pm
Still playing Tsukihime..
It's long... and I hate Ciel :)
Same.
I liked Arcueid a lot more.

Yea, Arcuied was so cute and the True ending was so tragic.
And that true end made the good end all the more satisfying for me.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: DxS on January 17, 2010, 01:42:41 pm
Still playing Tsukihime..
It's long... and I hate Ciel :)
Same.
I liked Arcueid a lot more.

Yea, Arcuied was so cute and the True ending was so tragic.
And that true end made the good end all the more satisfying for me.

I played the good end first, so the good end really added on to the impact of the True Ending.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Mazyrian on January 17, 2010, 03:11:30 pm
Still playing Tsukihime..
It's long... and I hate Ciel :)
Same.
I liked Arcueid a lot more.

Yea, Arcuied was so cute and the True ending was so tragic.
And that true end made the good end all the more satisfying for me.

I played the good end first, so the good end really added on to the impact of the True Ending.

To me, the good end make took out all the impact of the true and seemed like a cop-out.

And how did you do to play first the good end? (we are talking here about Arc's ends, right?)
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: AQZT on January 17, 2010, 06:08:51 pm
Still playing Tsukihime..
It's long... and I hate Ciel :)
Same.
I liked Arcueid a lot more.

Yea, Arcuied was so cute and the True ending was so tragic.
And that true end made the good end all the more satisfying for me.

I played the good end first, so the good end really added on to the impact of the True Ending.

To me, the good end make took out all the impact of the true and seemed like a cop-out.

And how did you do to play first the good end? (we are talking here about Arc's ends, right?)
Yeah, don't you need to first complete the true end to get the good end?
And I still liked F/SN more than Tsukihime.
*Prepares for mass flaming*

EDIT: *Looks at Ixrec's list of VNs*
WTF?
Ixrec STILL hasn't played Tsukihime? :o
AQZT is disappoint...   >:( >:(
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: DxS on January 17, 2010, 07:18:52 pm
Still playing Tsukihime..
It's long... and I hate Ciel :)
Same.
I liked Arcueid a lot more.

Yea, Arcuied was so cute and the True ending was so tragic.
And that true end made the good end all the more satisfying for me.

I played the good end first, so the good end really added on to the impact of the True Ending.

To me, the good end make took out all the impact of the true and seemed like a cop-out.

And how did you do to play first the good end? (we are talking here about Arc's ends, right?)
Yeah, don't you need to first complete the true end to get the good end?
And I still liked F/SN more than Tsukihime.
*Prepares for mass flaming*

EDIT: *Looks at Ixrec's list of VNs*
WTF?
Ixrec STILL hasn't played Tsukihime? :o
AQZT is disappoint...   >:( >:(

I played Tsukihime on my friends laptop since I couldnt get hold of a copy and he already had a completed save file, so i had access to allthe endings from the start.

I told him to and he said he would eventually but right now his priority is to play untranslated novels so that he can eventually translate them.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: KoiNoDensetsu on January 17, 2010, 07:58:42 pm
Uh, it's hard to explain, because of the really unique Jewel System.
There are 5 normal routes (Main routes as we call them) of the game (with "complete" ends and "not destined" ends), and the Epilogue Section (=Last 1/3 of the game) with the true ending at its very end.
These normal routes are focusing on different things and clues (not just the heroines they are supposed to be about), and while you are clearing the Jewelmap (http://www.tsukuru.info/tlwiki/index.php?title=File:Yu-no_walkthrough_english.jpg), sooner or later you have to collect all the 8 Jewels, which then enables you to go onto the aforementioned last 1/3 of the game. That 1/3 of the game is, uh... just really different than the first 2/3 (and is what makes the game bloody awesome).

Reading that has convinced me to download the prologue patch and see what this game is like.  I am now more interested in YU-NO.  Too bad it never got a remake since it could do with updated graphics...
However, after the opening plays, I see scenes that are in "auto" and untranslated.  Is this a game preview, silmilar to that of something you would see in a console game?  What is it? (first time I would see a preview video in a visual novel...)

I really want to play Tsukihime, but the remake was announced right when I was about to play it.  I'm waiting for that.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: izmosmolnar on January 17, 2010, 08:31:54 pm
Yes, the translation for these demos immediately after the OP (demo in such a sense where the computer plays as the player, and you watch as a spectator, just like some game preview as you put it) are not in the patch, because they are pretty low priority, and they are copypasta from the main routes anyway, so we'll copypaste those when the main routes are translated.
It shows you scenes from the main routes, and how the interface is structured, how to use items etc.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: DxS on January 17, 2010, 08:45:31 pm
Uh, it's hard to explain, because of the really unique Jewel System.
There are 5 normal routes (Main routes as we call them) of the game (with "complete" ends and "not destined" ends), and the Epilogue Section (=Last 1/3 of the game) with the true ending at its very end.
These normal routes are focusing on different things and clues (not just the heroines they are supposed to be about), and while you are clearing the Jewelmap (http://www.tsukuru.info/tlwiki/index.php?title=File:Yu-no_walkthrough_english.jpg), sooner or later you have to collect all the 8 Jewels, which then enables you to go onto the aforementioned last 1/3 of the game. That 1/3 of the game is, uh... just really different than the first 2/3 (and is what makes the game bloody awesome).

Reading that has convinced me to download the prologue patch and see what this game is like.  I am now more interested in YU-NO.  Too bad it never got a remake since it could do with updated graphics...
However, after the opening plays, I see scenes that are in "auto" and untranslated.  Is this a game preview, silmilar to that of something you would see in a console game?  What is it? (first time I would see a preview video in a visual novel...)

I really want to play Tsukihime, but the remake was announced right when I was about to play it.  I'm waiting for that.

Tell me you impression on it after then, I ahven't tried it ebcause I generally wait until the complete translation to play the game.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: KoiNoDensetsu on January 17, 2010, 08:57:46 pm
Yes, the translation for these demos immediately after the OP (demo in such a sense where the computer plays as the player, and you watch as a spectator, just like some game preview as you put it) are not in the patch, because they are pretty low priority, and they are copypasta from the main routes anyway, so we'll copypaste those when the main routes are translated.
It shows you scenes from the main routes, and how the interface is structured, how to use items etc.

Ah, thanks.  I have never seen that done before in a text game.

I just wanted to point out that one line struck me as a little odd.

Quote
It's a procreant instinct of man's to drool over a woman's voluptuous proportions

One, a different word than "procreant" would have worked just as well, especially considering that "procreant" is a fairly uncommon word. (at least I don't hear it that often)  I think "natural" would have worked just as well.  While the translation is good for the most part, it's a little too literal for my tastes. (not that I want you to re-write the entire game =P)
Second, "man's" doesn't make sense.  It should be changed to "men".

But still, thanks for taking your time to translate this.  It looks really interesting so far. :)


For some reason, I can't take screenshots of YU-NO; it shows up in paint as a blank screen.  If you know how I can take screens of YU-NO, please tell me.
BTW, how do you save?  I see no options besides "display" and "quit".
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: KoiNoDensetsu on January 17, 2010, 09:00:31 pm
Uh, it's hard to explain, because of the really unique Jewel System.
There are 5 normal routes (Main routes as we call them) of the game (with "complete" ends and "not destined" ends), and the Epilogue Section (=Last 1/3 of the game) with the true ending at its very end.
These normal routes are focusing on different things and clues (not just the heroines they are supposed to be about), and while you are clearing the Jewelmap (http://www.tsukuru.info/tlwiki/index.php?title=File:Yu-no_walkthrough_english.jpg), sooner or later you have to collect all the 8 Jewels, which then enables you to go onto the aforementioned last 1/3 of the game. That 1/3 of the game is, uh... just really different than the first 2/3 (and is what makes the game bloody awesome).

Reading that has convinced me to download the prologue patch and see what this game is like.  I am now more interested in YU-NO.  Too bad it never got a remake since it could do with updated graphics...
However, after the opening plays, I see scenes that are in "auto" and untranslated.  Is this a game preview, silmilar to that of something you would see in a console game?  What is it? (first time I would see a preview video in a visual novel...)

I really want to play Tsukihime, but the remake was announced right when I was about to play it.  I'm waiting for that.

Tell me you impression on it after then, I ahven't tried it ebcause I generally wait until the complete translation to play the game.

I haven't played much, but it seems like it will be a good game.  I have it in another window right now.  I usually don't play beta patches like these, but this struck my curiosity and I haven't been playing VNs in a while. (still need to finish Chain...)
But damn! :o  The main character's dad is such an ass.  He yells at his son for crying after being pinched...  What the fuck, he's a toddler. -_- (not a "man")  Of course he will cry.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: izmosmolnar on January 17, 2010, 10:52:11 pm
Almost every line is rewritten during editing (Yes,  "not that I want you to re-write the entire game" is actually happening), so I really can't see why would anyone call it literal. (Phar, unlike many others aren't keen on literal translations in the first place anyway). Feel free to compare the scripts on the wiki with the earlier revisions if you don't believe me.
Procreant is the word one has to use there, given the original japanese and the situation. Natural doesn't have a connotation that it's only for the purpose of procreating and creating offsprings. The point is that Takuya and everyone else speaks rubbish like that all the time when joking.

You are mistaken, it's Man's not Men's.

During the prologue you can save when you can move between locations, and you aren't in a middle of something. During Main routes you get a certain item allowing you to save every time you are in point-and-click.
I make screenshots all the time with Print Screen + Paint, never had problem with it.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Gore on January 17, 2010, 11:21:08 pm
Tsukihime, there's something I haven't played in a long time. I did Hisui's route first(I skipped all the way through Ciel's to open up hers), I'm glad I did it that way actually. There would have been a lot less mystery involved if I had did one of the two main arcs first. I didn't understand what was going on at all when he was stuck in that bed, which made it awesome(although annoying considering how long that part was).

Here is another Perla though, where the hell is my Satsuki route? It was suppose to be in Kagetsu, but they cut it. I'll be enraged if the remake comes out and they decided not to add it in.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: KoiNoDensetsu on January 17, 2010, 11:22:00 pm
Almost every line is rewritten during editing (Yes,  "not that I want you to re-write the entire game" is actually happening), so I really can't see why would anyone call it literal. (Phar, unlike many others aren't keen on literal translations in the first place anyway). Feel free to compare the scripts on the wiki with the earlier revisions if you don't believe me.
Procreant is the word one has to use there, given the original japanese and the situation. Natural doesn't have a connotation that it's only for the purpose of procreating and creating offsprings. The point is that Takuya and everyone else speaks rubbish like that all the time when joking.

You are mistaken, it's Man's not Men's.

During the prologue you can save when you can move between locations, and you aren't in a middle of something. During Main routes you get a certain item allowing you to save every time you are in point-and-click.
I make screenshots all the time with Print Screen + Paint, never had problem with it.

I'll admit that I didn't read the Japanese script.  If colloquial terms were used in the original text, then I guess it is fine.

What I was trying to point out was that the use of the possessive "'s" doesn't really make sense since it is followed by "to".  It would make more sense to just say "It's a (procreant) instinct of man/men to drool over a woman's voluptuous proportions". (unless this was an error purposely made in the Japanese text)
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Ixrec on January 18, 2010, 01:16:50 pm
In that line "man" should be read as a collective noun. And yes, the YUNO protag is weird enough that "procreant" sounds perfectly normal to me (and as pointed out more precise than "natural" so it's likely a superior word anyway).
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: DxS on January 18, 2010, 03:25:53 pm
Uh, it's hard to explain, because of the really unique Jewel System.
There are 5 normal routes (Main routes as we call them) of the game (with "complete" ends and "not destined" ends), and the Epilogue Section (=Last 1/3 of the game) with the true ending at its very end.
These normal routes are focusing on different things and clues (not just the heroines they are supposed to be about), and while you are clearing the Jewelmap (http://www.tsukuru.info/tlwiki/index.php?title=File:Yu-no_walkthrough_english.jpg), sooner or later you have to collect all the 8 Jewels, which then enables you to go onto the aforementioned last 1/3 of the game. That 1/3 of the game is, uh... just really different than the first 2/3 (and is what makes the game bloody awesome).

Reading that has convinced me to download the prologue patch and see what this game is like.  I am now more interested in YU-NO.  Too bad it never got a remake since it could do with updated graphics...
However, after the opening plays, I see scenes that are in "auto" and untranslated.  Is this a game preview, silmilar to that of something you would see in a console game?  What is it? (first time I would see a preview video in a visual novel...)

I really want to play Tsukihime, but the remake was announced right when I was about to play it.  I'm waiting for that.

Tell me you impression on it after then, I ahven't tried it ebcause I generally wait until the complete translation to play the game.

I haven't played much, but it seems like it will be a good game.  I have it in another window right now.  I usually don't play beta patches like these, but this struck my curiosity and I haven't been playing VNs in a while. (still need to finish Chain...)
But damn! :o  The main character's dad is such an ass.  He yells at his son for crying after being pinched...  What the fuck, he's a toddler. -_- (not a "man")  Of course he will cry.

What a Jerk, and you're supposed to be lookig for/trying to save the guy -__-
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: DxS on January 18, 2010, 03:27:04 pm
Tsukihime, there's something I haven't played in a long time. I did Hisui's route first(I skipped all the way through Ciel's to open up hers), I'm glad I did it that way actually. There would have been a lot less mystery involved if I had did one of the two main arcs first. I didn't understand what was going on at all when he was stuck in that bed, which made it awesome(although annoying considering how long that part was).

Here is another Perla though, where the hell is my Satsuki route? It was suppose to be in Kagetsu, but they cut it. I'll be enraged if the remake comes out and they decided not to add it in.

I doubt they'd do that Type Moon might do some strange stufff, but there's no way they could do something like that without being in danger of angering they're fans and thats not good.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Gore on January 18, 2010, 10:13:07 pm
Tsukihime, there's something I haven't played in a long time. I did Hisui's route first(I skipped all the way through Ciel's to open up hers), I'm glad I did it that way actually. There would have been a lot less mystery involved if I had did one of the two main arcs first. I didn't understand what was going on at all when he was stuck in that bed, which made it awesome(although annoying considering how long that part was).

Here is another Perla though, where the hell is my Satsuki route? It was suppose to be in Kagetsu, but they cut it. I'll be enraged if the remake comes out and they decided not to add it in.

I doubt they'd do that Type Moon might do some strange stufff, but there's no way they could do something like that without being in danger of angering they're fans and thats not good.

They angered them when Kagetsu came out and everyone found out she was cut lol. But yeah I doubt they'll do that this time, her route is part of the reason they're doing a remake anyways.

How many of you that played Tsukihime actually played Kagetsu too? Some of the extras in that were quite funny, and I liked how it taught you what really happened after Akiha's true end.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: DxS on January 19, 2010, 01:56:12 pm
Tsukihime, there's something I haven't played in a long time. I did Hisui's route first(I skipped all the way through Ciel's to open up hers), I'm glad I did it that way actually. There would have been a lot less mystery involved if I had did one of the two main arcs first. I didn't understand what was going on at all when he was stuck in that bed, which made it awesome(although annoying considering how long that part was).

Here is another Perla though, where the hell is my Satsuki route? It was suppose to be in Kagetsu, but they cut it. I'll be enraged if the remake comes out and they decided not to add it in.

I doubt they'd do that Type Moon might do some strange stufff, but there's no way they could do something like that without being in danger of angering they're fans and thats not good.

They angered them when Kagetsu came out and everyone found out she was cut lol. But yeah I doubt they'll do that this time, her route is part of the reason they're doing a remake anyways.

How many of you that played Tsukihime actually played Kagetsu too? Some of the extras in that were quite funny, and I liked how it taught you what really happened after Akiha's true end.

Yea but to be fair Kagetsu didnt really have an "Routes" per say, but it was still pretty good all the same.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: KoiNoDensetsu on January 20, 2010, 12:15:31 am
In that line "man" should be read as a collective noun. And yes, the YUNO protag is weird enough that "procreant" sounds perfectly normal to me (and as pointed out more precise than "natural" so it's likely a superior word anyway).

I must be having a huge fail of my own language because I don't see why "men" wouldn't suffice.  "Man's" isn't the collective noun of man; "men" is. http://www.ucgc.org/terms-for-collections.htm
Since you can say the same things with different words, I was trying to suggest that a less obscure word(s) than "procreant" be used.  But after playing YU-NO more and seeing that the main character is fairly odd, I guess it's fine.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: KoiNoDensetsu on January 20, 2010, 12:19:54 am
Uh, it's hard to explain, because of the really unique Jewel System.
There are 5 normal routes (Main routes as we call them) of the game (with "complete" ends and "not destined" ends), and the Epilogue Section (=Last 1/3 of the game) with the true ending at its very end.
These normal routes are focusing on different things and clues (not just the heroines they are supposed to be about), and while you are clearing the Jewelmap (http://www.tsukuru.info/tlwiki/index.php?title=File:Yu-no_walkthrough_english.jpg), sooner or later you have to collect all the 8 Jewels, which then enables you to go onto the aforementioned last 1/3 of the game. That 1/3 of the game is, uh... just really different than the first 2/3 (and is what makes the game bloody awesome).

Reading that has convinced me to download the prologue patch and see what this game is like.  I am now more interested in YU-NO.  Too bad it never got a remake since it could do with updated graphics...
However, after the opening plays, I see scenes that are in "auto" and untranslated.  Is this a game preview, silmilar to that of something you would see in a console game?  What is it? (first time I would see a preview video in a visual novel...)

I really want to play Tsukihime, but the remake was announced right when I was about to play it.  I'm waiting for that.

Tell me you impression on it after then, I ahven't tried it ebcause I generally wait until the complete translation to play the game.

I haven't played much, but it seems like it will be a good game.  I have it in another window right now.  I usually don't play beta patches like these, but this struck my curiosity and I haven't been playing VNs in a while. (still need to finish Chain...)
But damn! :o  The main character's dad is such an ass.  He yells at his son for crying after being pinched...  What the fuck, he's a toddler. -_- (not a "man")  Of course he will cry.

What a Jerk, and you're supposed to be lookig for/trying to save the guy -__-

You have to save him? D:  Damn, I haven't gotten to that part yet. (playing fairly slowly)
I installed the voice patch, but I might actually prefer it without any seiyuu.  While I liked it in the opening scene, it feels a little awkward in the rest of the game.  This is partially due to YU-NO looking and feeling old.  Picture Season of the Sakura/桜の季節 with voice acting.  That's kind of how YU-NO feels with the voice patch...

BTW, what all was added to the Saturn port besides voice acting?  Were the graphics redone?
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: izmosmolnar on January 20, 2010, 01:48:01 am
We modified that line in the end to make it more clear.

You don't have to save him, but finding out his whereabouts is one of those questions.

Hahaha, no. You can trust me on this, I finished it without voices (and also QC it with voices regularly), and they are IMMENSELY improving the whole thing (you haven't seen which scenes are the ones where they really add to the atmosphere, and where they are truly further improving the enjoyability, and no, these scenes are going to be much later). Also, some characters gain an entire new light with their voices (Ryuuzouji, Kaori), so you really shouldn't say after an ~hour of playing that voices make the game 'worse'. That's nonsense. Additionally, there are a very few scenes where the voices actually give you clues which you wouldn't get by just relying on the text. (Like there's one in Mitsuki's route climax).
Keep in mind that the game is about 40+ hours (all the voices together were something like 29+ hours.), so I really don't think one hour is enough to say that the voices "suck".
Besides, ignoring this Seiyuu (http://www.tsukuru.info/tlwiki/index.php?title=YU-NO_Seiyuu_list) cast, or saying that their performance makes the game less enjoyable, is a shameless crime. It's one of the most high-class VA list in the last decade, and many seiyuu-s there are top-class stars even nowadays.

No, Saturn port don't have its graphic redone. It uses the very same cgs, except the altered HScenes (the saturn version indicates that they are having sex, but covers every naughty bits.) The saturn version actually looks worse due to the PC98 CGs being resized. The only good cgs there are the Saturn exclusive ones, but there aren't many of those.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: DxS on January 20, 2010, 02:59:50 pm
I'm surprised that they ctually have a heavy hint at sex int he Saturn version, I was expecting a cop out like the manafish or Dragon in the F/SN PS2 Port.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: KoiNoDensetsu on January 20, 2010, 07:01:37 pm
We modified that line in the end to make it more clear.

You don't have to save him, but finding out his whereabouts is one of those questions.

Hahaha, no. You can trust me on this, I finished it without voices (and also QC it with voices regularly), and they are IMMENSELY improving the whole thing (you haven't seen which scenes are the ones where they really add to the atmosphere, and where they are truly further improving the enjoyability, and no, these scenes are going to be much later). Also, some characters gain an entire new light with their voices (Ryuuzouji, Kaori), so you really shouldn't say after an ~hour of playing that voices make the game 'worse'. That's nonsense. Additionally, there are a very few scenes where the voices actually give you clues which you wouldn't get by just relying on the text. (Like there's one in Mitsuki's route climax).
Keep in mind that the game is about 40+ hours (all the voices together were something like 29+ hours.), so I really don't think one hour is enough to say that the voices "suck".
Besides, ignoring this Seiyuu (http://www.tsukuru.info/tlwiki/index.php?title=YU-NO_Seiyuu_list) cast, or saying that their performance makes the game less enjoyable, is a shameless crime. It's one of the most high-class VA list in the last decade, and many seiyuu-s there are top-class stars even nowadays.

No, Saturn port don't have its graphic redone. It uses the very same cgs, except the altered HScenes (the saturn version indicates that they are having sex, but covers every naughty bits.) The saturn version actually looks worse due to the PC98 CGs being resized. The only good cgs there are the Saturn exclusive ones, but there aren't many of those.

I only meant that as my impression from playing just some of YU-NO. But for old games with the format of YU-NO, I generally just skip over most of the voicing.  I found the voice acting in Divi-Dead to just be so-so. (partially because of the actual seiyuu, partially because of what type of game DD is)  I haven't finish all of DD yet, but I have gotten failry far. (MUCH farther than in YU-NO)
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: izmosmolnar on January 20, 2010, 09:54:18 pm
I'm surprised that they ctually have a heavy hint at sex int he Saturn version, I was expecting a cop out like the manafish or Dragon in the F/SN PS2 Port.
Thing is, the sex scenes aren't negligible here unlike FSN.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Gore on January 21, 2010, 01:21:39 am

Besides, ignoring this Seiyuu (http://www.tsukuru.info/tlwiki/index.php?title=YU-NO_Seiyuu_list) cast, or saying that their performance makes the game less enjoyable, is a shameless crime. It's one of the most high-class VA list in the last decade, and many seiyuu-s there are top-class stars even nowadays.


This is very...uh, what would the word be for this. Subjectional? It all depends per person, just like in GSS how I absolutely hated the cousins voice and had to turn it off, while every one else loved her. Alternative is another fine example, for Takeru they used Souichiro HOSHI a well known VA who has done plenty of anime roles too, and yet again I absolutely couldn't stand it. I never had a problem with him before, I even thought he was good, but as Takeru....no matter how many times I heard it, it just didn't fit at all.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Ixrec on January 21, 2010, 01:59:25 am
”Subjective."

While I'm here I may as well say that I also found the YUNO seiyuus wonderful, and I kinda have to agree on Takeru's. Of course I'm also the type to not really care about or even notice voice acting half the time, so this opinion matters little.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: izmosmolnar on January 21, 2010, 11:27:12 am
IMO disliking one or two VA roles still doesn't mean one should say it collectively that "voice acting as a whole makes the game less enjoyable".
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Gore on January 22, 2010, 08:08:53 am
How long does it take you guys to read VN's normally? According to the last save I used when I finished Ichijou's route, it apparently took me 68 hours and I think that's the shortest route. I knew I was slow at reading, especially on Muramasa but holy shit. It was awesome though, game is easily a 9/10 so far for me.

Oh and Iz I just saw your comment on youtube, I knew the name but I had to change it because of all the Disney referrals. When I first made it, it was getting a lot of referrals from Beauty and the Beast, I had to put a stop to that. That is an awesome song though, sadly I only remember hearing it once in-game, same for Arcanum actually. I'd rather they used those two songs more instead of "Cilindro". I really don't like that song.

Also I love it when they use 月下に捧ぐ during werewolf scenes. My favorite song is probably Belmont though, that or Parca.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: izmosmolnar on January 22, 2010, 09:19:51 am
Haha, always a problem with these Disney (movie) -s, lol.
Yeah it played once in Anna's route I think (finished it today). And yeah the werewolf scenes were quite good so far. But to be perfectly honest, I preferred the first half of the route more than the last so far.
I'm piecing the untranslated stuff together embarrassingly slow, so I don't even bother checking. :|
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: KoiNoDensetsu on January 22, 2010, 12:34:11 pm
How long does it take you guys to read VN's normally? According to the last save I used when I finished Ichijou's route, it apparently took me 68 hours and I think that's the shortest route. I knew I was slow at reading, especially on Muramasa but holy shit. It was awesome though, game is easily a 9/10 so far for me.

Oh and Iz I just saw your comment on youtube, I knew the name but I had to change it because of all the Disney referrals. When I first made it, it was getting a lot of referrals from Beauty and the Beast, I had to put a stop to that. That is an awesome song though, sadly I only remember hearing it once in-game, same for Arcanum actually. I'd rather they used those two songs more instead of "Cilindro". I really don't like that song.

Also I love it when they use 月下に捧ぐ during werewolf scenes. My favorite song is probably Belmont though, that or Parca.

I don't know the exact time I play most VNs since there usually isn't a timer, but I do tend to take longer playing a VN than others.  That's why I thought Ever17 was so long; that game took me dozens of hours for each path even though I LOVED it.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Mazyrian on January 22, 2010, 04:22:13 pm
How long does it take you guys to read VN's normally? According to the last save I used when I finished Ichijou's route, it apparently took me 68 hours and I think that's the shortest route. I knew I was slow at reading, especially on Muramasa but holy shit. It was awesome though, game is easily a 9/10 so far for me.

Oh and Iz I just saw your comment on youtube, I knew the name but I had to change it because of all the Disney referrals. When I first made it, it was getting a lot of referrals from Beauty and the Beast, I had to put a stop to that. That is an awesome song though, sadly I only remember hearing it once in-game, same for Arcanum actually. I'd rather they used those two songs more instead of "Cilindro". I really don't like that song.

Also I love it when they use 月下に捧ぐ during werewolf scenes. My favorite song is probably Belmont though, that or Parca.

I don't know the exact time I play most VNs since there usually isn't a timer, but I do tend to take longer playing a VN than others.  That's why I thought Ever17 was so long; that game took me dozens of hours for each path even though I LOVED it.

I have found the average VN (something like Kanon) takes me about 20-25 hour; less than that I consider short. (For the record, CROSS†CHANNEL took me about 18 hours).
Now I playing some things in japanese (or trying to play at least), and yes, those take MUCH longer; I can't exactly compare, but I guess 4 times as longer, or maybe even more (Air took me a little more than 100 hours).
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Gore on January 23, 2010, 01:23:20 pm
Yeah it's definitely increased a lot ever since I switched to non-translated ones. Although even in English ones I find myself reading lines over and over again or backlogging a bit, that especially happens a lot in mindfuck games.

On another note who here has beat Alternative? I never paid much attention to it before, well more like I forgot but I read something that said the choices you make really only influence what letter Takeru reads at the end but....I never read any letters? Now someone else mentioned something about the letters too and I'm positive there were no fucking letters.

I think Ixrec is the only one in here who has played the game so if you read this, do you remember reading any "letters" after the original hive?
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Ixrec on January 23, 2010, 06:39:45 pm
The only letters I remember are ones sent to Ayamine Kei by some minor character whose name I forgot, and you do actually read one really early in the game, but that was back when Alternative was still just more Unlimited so I hardly count it.

So no, I know of nothing remotely like a letter at the end of the game.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Metarail on January 24, 2010, 02:54:02 am
There was a letter in Alternatives just before the ending, it's just before the "sending" scene Yuko gives Takeru a letter to read if I remember correctly (it has been while since I read AL). It's nothing major but gives bit of a bittersweet taste about the things it speaks (well it might depend on whose letter you end up reading, for me it was Mikotos).

As for what I'm currently reading, initialy I was planning on reading Muramasa, but because what I end up playing next pretty much works on RNG of the list that I want to play, so I ended up with different title:
Currently reading Ikusa Megami Zero, it has been quite good so far and I have really liked it. The gameplay mechanics in it are better than what I excepted and same goes for the BGMs. The story altough at start was bit too much generic did get better altough it isn't anything too new even in later on, but there are some nice twists and turns down the line, ending up quite enjoyable. Right now I'm about 3/4 done as I'm at the start of "4 phase" as I call it, each "phase" lasts 2 chapters and at the end there are some quite plot changing events so it easy differiantate between them. Overall it's been enjoyable to me. If you you like high fantasy stories and RPGs I can easily recommend playing this, and if you don't know anything about series and have even little of brain I suggest playing till the end of "phase 1" without reading up anything about the plot/character synopsises, as then the end of that phase will have far more impact if you don't know that twist coming (Zero is a prequel to those two older games after all and if you know anything about the them and so on...)

After this I'm probably going to play Ar Tonelico 3, altough I still need to get my hands on PS3 from somewhere. And then theres the fact that I can't use translation aggerator to lookup kanjis when I'm playing it so I probably end up missing more stuff from plot than I want, but being bit of an AT fanatic I just can't wait to play it.

After them probably going to check out Genrin no Kishougun 2, as now that I have been reading Ikusa Megami Zero I have started to really look foward to Ikusa Megami Verita and the other main character in it will be from Genrin 2, so have to play it for some plot continuity.

PS. games made by Eushully need more love.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Gore on January 24, 2010, 08:36:50 am
Man I'm really not remembering that letter part, I recall landing the escape shuttle, then the dialogue between him and Kasume and then....the last scene with him, Kasumi, and Yuuko. I know I got a save near the end of Original Hive, maybe I'll load it up later and skip to that scene.

I looked up Ikusa Megami Zero and...I'm rather confused. Is this how the order works:

Ikusa Megami Zero
Genrin no Kishougun
Genrin no Kishougun 2 ~Michibikareshi Tamashii no Keifu~
Ikusa Megami VERITA
Ikusa Megami
Ikusa Megami 2 ~Ushinawareshi Kioku he no Sankonka~

I say I'm confused because the order of the games vs release dates seems....odd.

It's almost like an even more fucked up version of what they did with Star Wars. But instead of going 4-5-6-1-2-3, they went 5-2-6-3-1-4.

Also it looks quite entertaining, plus if I got into it I'd be set on VN playtime for a long time it seems.

As of this post I'm halfway through Kanae's route on Muramasa, only one more to go after that. Yes ONE, I've recently became enraged after looking at the walkthrough, chachamaru was the only girl I wanted and yet according to the walkthrough, she's a quick branch off the true end and that's it. I'm hoping it just *happens* to be that there is only one choice and it's actually rather long, but something tells me I'm going to be rather disappointed.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Metarail on January 24, 2010, 12:26:15 pm
I looked up Ikusa Megami Zero and...I'm rather confused. Is this how the order works:

Ikusa Megami Zero
Genrin no Kishougun
Genrin no Kishougun 2 ~Michibikareshi Tamashii no Keifu~
Ikusa Megami VERITA
Ikusa Megami
Ikusa Megami 2 ~Ushinawareshi Kioku he no Sankonka~

I say I'm confused because the order of the games vs release dates seems....odd.

It's almost like an even more fucked up version of what they did with Star Wars. But instead of going 4-5-6-1-2-3, they went 5-2-6-3-1-4.

Also it looks quite entertaining, plus if I got into it I'd be set on VN playtime for a long time it seems.


I not expert with the time-line stuff but I think it's something like star wars stuff and almost all Eushullys games happen in same world setting. It goes something like this they first made Ikusa Megami 1, then came the sequel Ikusa Megami 2, after that they went star wars and made Ikusa Megami Zero which was prequel to those two earlier. And then theres the fact that almost every Eushullys game happen in same world so there was another series they made which they made and was seperate series from Ikusa Megami, that series was Genrin no Kishougun ( it was released there somewhere between Ikusas). Altough Ikusa Megami and Genrin has been seperate series so far, but as they share the same world, the Ikusa Megami Veritas story happens so that main characters of those two series meet up and something happens. Verita is still timeline wise before first Ikusa Megami.

In short Eushullys world timewise the events happen in this order, while Ikusa Megami and Genrin are different stories/games they cross paths in upcoming Verita.

Ikusa Megami Zero
Genrin no Kishougun
Genrin no Kishougun 2 ~Michibikareshi Tamashii no Keifu~
Ikusa Megami VERITA
Ikusa Megami
Ikusa Megami 2 ~Ushinawareshi Kioku he no Sankonka~
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Gore on January 25, 2010, 07:55:54 am
Alright so I'd probably end up doing Zero, then if I liked that I'd move onto Megami and Megami 2. Then if I cared about Verita at that point, it's probably best that I played both Genrin's.

I've got somewhat of a grasp on it now.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: maitrenuage on January 25, 2010, 10:29:15 am
Can anyone tell me how long is Tears of Tiara. I'm at about 8H but I only took it as a side VN (still on Tsukihime and Gift (when I'm in the bus)).
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Metarail on January 25, 2010, 12:33:44 pm
Alright so I'd probably end up doing Zero, then if I liked that I'd move onto Megami and Megami 2. Then if I cared about Verita at that point, it's probably best that I played both Genrin's.

I've got somewhat of a grasp on it now.

Should probably say that Ikusa Megami Zero is said to be Eushullys best title, and from what I have heard the first ikusa megami and genrin aren't that good, altough theirs sequels have positive opinions of them. Well, ofcourse I can't say anything for sure as I haven't played them, only other Eushully title which I have played was Himegari and that was quite great also, altough I probably will end up playing most of Eushullys titles at sometime as I have taken quite the world they have created and their stories and gameplay mechanics.

Also lol at Serika having memory problems on par with Kou at one point of the story, demon loli riding on Cerberus somewhat related.
(http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/4435/cg000005.jpg) (http://img341.imageshack.us/i/cg000005.jpg/)
PS. I really like the art in Eushullys games.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: KoiNoDensetsu on January 25, 2010, 10:27:58 pm
Can anyone tell me how long is Tears of Tiara. I'm at about 8H but I only took it as a side VN (still on Tsukihime and Gift (when I'm in the bus)).

I'm not 100% sure if this is right, but I think I remember hearing it being around 20 hours.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Mazyrian on January 26, 2010, 07:00:01 am
I think that's about right
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Gore on January 26, 2010, 08:27:12 am
Alright so I'd probably end up doing Zero, then if I liked that I'd move onto Megami and Megami 2. Then if I cared about Verita at that point, it's probably best that I played both Genrin's.

I've got somewhat of a grasp on it now.

Should probably say that Ikusa Megami Zero is said to be Eushullys best title, and from what I have heard the first ikusa megami and genrin aren't that good, altough theirs sequels have positive opinions of them. Well, ofcourse I can't say anything for sure as I haven't played them, only other Eushully title which I have played was Himegari and that was quite great also, altough I probably will end up playing most of Eushullys titles at sometime as I have taken quite the world they have created and their stories and gameplay mechanics.

Also lol at Serika having memory problems on par with Kou at one point of the story, demon loli riding on Cerberus somewhat related.
(http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/4435/cg000005.jpg) (http://img341.imageshack.us/i/cg000005.jpg/)
PS. I really like the art in Eushullys games.

There is something about that girl that I find extremely hot, you're right I'm loving that art. I really might just play Zero after I'm finished with Muramasa, halfway through the final route right now.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Shikiller on January 29, 2010, 06:45:15 pm
I'm playing Muv Luv Extra.
The game is weird and hilarious. I approve.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: maitrenuage on January 31, 2010, 08:47:58 am
One month later, i'm finaly done with Tsukihime...
Not as great as I was expecting it to be... maybe because of the OST...
I'll give it a 7/10.

Now what will I try ?

Edleweiss
Da Capo
Shera my witch
Suika
Cosplay fetish academy
Ishika & Honori
Heart de roommate
Ai yori aoshi
Mizuiro
Kanon
Fate Stay Night
Aoishiro
Gin Iro
Princess Eris

Maybe I should play a nukige like Cosplay academy, Princess Eris or Shere my witch...
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Gore on January 31, 2010, 09:09:58 am
Music means a lot to me too, but I still loved Tsukihime. I'd say grab Fate next.

Also beware of Giniro engrish.

(http://img2.pict.com/e1/20/e5/2700602/0/4188.jpg)
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: izmosmolnar on January 31, 2010, 11:01:53 am
Giniro's engrish needs some thinking to understand, which I'd say one unconsciously acquire by the second chapter unless you give up before that. Sure one can take out the really bad ones, but with context one can understand the story more or less IMHO. Just like how the above image meant to say something like "I don't know how he's still alive. The man who fell first (/the man who I attacked/injured first). He looks up to me  and says."
Of course I wouldn't recommend it to any impatient people, and it helps if you aren't picky about languages. If you do play it, then you'll end up depressed as shit after every chapter, and cry in the corner, because it's a superb utsuge.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Gore on January 31, 2010, 12:00:32 pm
Oh you can definitely understand it, I was just warning him ahead of time. Well not like I'm speaking from experience anyways, I haven't played it yet. I'm assuming it doesn't get worse than the pictures on vndb.

Judging from the themes, it sounds like Suika in terms of protagonists & chapters. Is that how it works?
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: izmosmolnar on January 31, 2010, 01:41:46 pm
Well I found Suika so boring that I dropped it before the end of the first chapter.

It works like this: there's this Silver Thread which grants miracles and you follow what happens with this Silver Thread throughout the times (not linearly though), and what luck/misfortune it brought upon the various people, and how their destiny changed due to using it.
The chapters were something like this (not really spoilerish, but these are just the backgrounds of the various chapters):
First Chapter is that bandit guy in the image above (romance is between him + an abused and injured/crippled prostitute who managed to escape her prison) throughout medieval Japan era.
Second chapter is in medieval Japan too in a Shinto Shrine with the shrine maiden heroine who plays this harp-like musical instrument which she repaired herself and used the Silver Thread in it and some guy who transferred there for a short time.
Third chapter, or as I call it, the yandere chapter we advanced the time by a few hundred years to ~1900ish I think, and it's in some cafe in Japan. This cafe is owned by two sister. Their deceased mom left the Silver Thread to the younger sister, who makes a wish for the benefit of the older sis, so she can find a man she'd love (who of course turns out to be our soldier protagonist).
Then we go back to medieval times again for a really mini chapter about two really poor sisters, and how cruel their fate is in that poverty. (That stuff was truly one of the most depressing stuff I've read).
Next 'main' chapter (my favorite) is the most complicated because it runs on two story (one gets less role though). First we travel back to present modern times, and see the story of a mute waitress girl, how she romances with the customer protagonist, and the scenes swap sometimes back to medieval times again, between a noble royal, and some girl who was in love with him. The scenes are swapping awesomely here. Splendidly directed.
Then the last chapter is the conclusion of the "main story" which you've seen spanning throughout the entire game (there are scenes of this story between the chapters and other scenes). It can't be really explained without spoilers.

Also, the BGM is so great + harmonizing, that it can make me cry just listening to it.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Gore on January 31, 2010, 03:58:28 pm
That...actually sounds pretty awesome, a lot better than I was expecting. The silver thread part really reminds me of something though...just can't remember what.

Also how far are you in Gekkou now?(Assuming you kept playing it)
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: izmosmolnar on January 31, 2010, 05:32:44 pm
I finished it like 10 minutes ago actually. I liked the game quite well overall, but I couldn't really get attached to the heroines (except Anna).
Heck I can't even remember a heroine I hated more than Rebecca. Still her route was pretty good too, because unlike other routes, you see someone at his/her real potential, and its climax was pretty good. Also it has adult Noel who is <3 .
I liked Anna of course, her route was rather nice. Her ending which plays in Venice (not the 'haremish') was quite good.
I'm rather indifferent towards Noel as a character, but her route was definitely the best. The events in it entertained me the most, the character interactions were the most interesting, and the best fight was there too (Carmelo vs Iris / Perla ).
Lunaria's route was far the worst IMO. Heck it wasn't even entirely her own. Also that whole drama thing whether she really ____ the obvious character, and her constant rivalry was :/ .

Amazing atmosphere (well, the first half primarily and the 'La Famiglia' stuff), awesome BGM, great characters (Perla, Carmelo, Iris, Guglielmo, Paolo, Anna, Romeo, Valentino, Pius etc), some great routes, good protag, werewolf fights, kinda meh pacing made me liked it quite a lot, but it could have been better at places IMHO. I ended up rating it 8/10 (about 82% ish).

Oh and fucking nitroplus again for not doing any risque CGs for Perla. Even Iris has a pissing 'Hscene' yet Perla only has like 3-4 CGs altogether. Don't always make your supporting cast so much better than the heroines!
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Gore on January 31, 2010, 07:42:53 pm
lol yep I told you man, Lunaria's route was shit I knew you'd hate it too. I still haven't played Rebecca's route, It's hard to get the motivation to try it considering how much I hate her, I'll eventually get to it though since I want full closure. The first half of the game before story branching was the best to me.

Yeah I'm always complaining about Perla being shafted so much too, it's bad enough she doesn't have a route but then she is also barely in the game(unless she happens to have an insane amount of airtime in Rebecca's route that I don't know about). Then also like you just said, she practically has no CG's either.

Also Carmelo is fucking awesome and hilarious, love that guy.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Sirf*palot on February 01, 2010, 06:15:28 pm
Can someone explain to me what the "Nagi excuse" is?  ??? I don't seem to be familiar with it.

Also, currently playing Kanon (Finished nayuki's route, doing Ayu's),Galaxy Angel, Suika A.S and True Remembrance. Backlog include planetarian,  Brass Restoration, Tsukihime (Akiha's Route), and a few more routes Sengoku Rance, Soul Link, Private Nurse, and Snow Sakura.

Wished I knew japanese, then I could enjoy some VNs w/o translations. While reading through the thread a person mentioned Lamune which sounds quite nice. And I wouldn't mind playing KimiNozo either. Oh well

Looking froward to Kara no Shoujo and G-String. Y'all
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: KoiNoDensetsu on February 01, 2010, 08:14:58 pm
And I wouldn't mind playing KimiNozo either. Oh well

See, Ixrec?  There truly is a huge KGNE fanbase.  The poll obviously isn't accurate. ;D
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Kiru on February 02, 2010, 03:11:33 am
And I wouldn't mind playing KimiNozo either. Oh well

See, Ixrec?  There truly is a huge KGNE fanbase.  The poll obviously isn't accurate. ;D
wouldn't mind != I ABSOLUTLY FUCKING WANT TO.  :-X
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: KoiNoDensetsu on February 02, 2010, 06:27:46 am
And I wouldn't mind playing KimiNozo either. Oh well

See, Ixrec?  There truly is a huge KGNE fanbase.  The poll obviously isn't accurate. ;D
I ABSOLUTLY FUCKING WANT TO.  :-X

Even Kiru is joining in on the KimiNozo craze! ;D
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: AQZT on February 02, 2010, 02:32:15 pm
And I wouldn't mind playing KimiNozo either. Oh well

See, Ixrec?  There truly is a huge KGNE fanbase.  The poll obviously isn't accurate. ;D
I ABSOLUTLY FUCKING WANT TO.  :-X

Even Kiru is joining in on the KimiNozo craze! ;D
And this is the guy who accused NNL of misquoting him...
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: maitrenuage on February 02, 2010, 02:48:31 pm
I just finished Amaane Makai Princess Eris wa Eroicha Haramizuma! ~Suki na Dake Dashite Zenbu Shikyuu.

One thing is sure : the title is longer thant the game (2H).
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: KoiNoDensetsu on February 02, 2010, 04:06:09 pm
And I wouldn't mind playing KimiNozo either. Oh well

See, Ixrec?  There truly is a huge KGNE fanbase.  The poll obviously isn't accurate. ;D
I ABSOLUTLY FUCKING WANT TO.  :-X

Even Kiru is joining in on the KimiNozo craze! ;D
And this is the guy who accused NNL of misquoting him...

I hope for a KimiNozo~
I wish for a KimiNozo~
I nozomu for a KimiNozo~

Bring the world KimiNozo

I have no idea what you mean, Sir. ???
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: beliar on February 02, 2010, 04:38:00 pm
I just finished Amaane Makai Princess Eris wa Eroicha Haramizuma! ~Suki na Dake Dashite Zenbu Shikyuu.

One thing is sure : the title is longer thant the game (2H).

It's also boring as hell. And that is quite a feat to make sex with horny (literally) demoness boring.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Gore on February 02, 2010, 05:50:28 pm
Decided to try Sumaga next, been on it for a few days now. I must say, I'm loving it so far(taking a guess looking at the walkthrough, I might be about 75% through Spica's route).

I loved the whole death/revive/memory thing with Muvluv, and Sumaga is an extreme version of that. I think I've died about 6 times where I am at, and I really enjoy all the scenes with "God".





Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Moriken on February 03, 2010, 04:10:12 am
Decided to try Sumaga next, been on it for a few days now. I must say, I'm loving it so far(taking a guess looking at the walkthrough, I might be about 75% through Spica's route).

I loved the whole death/revive/memory thing with Muvluv, and Sumaga is an extreme version of that. I think I've died about 6 times where I am at, and I really enjoy all the scenes with "God".

Kamisama dechu~
The first hour or so of that title was really very awesome, I was just like "what the heck is this???" :D
But in all honesty, sometime between the middle and last third of the main story (the first three episodes - the actual character routes can only be accessed by starting a new game *after* that...including a voiced protagonist this time) the endless looping became exhausting, despite the variations. I still didn't go through the individual routes because it was just total overkill, but I think I should someday.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Gore on February 03, 2010, 08:44:53 am
Decided to try Sumaga next, been on it for a few days now. I must say, I'm loving it so far(taking a guess looking at the walkthrough, I might be about 75% through Spica's route).

I loved the whole death/revive/memory thing with Muvluv, and Sumaga is an extreme version of that. I think I've died about 6 times where I am at, and I really enjoy all the scenes with "God".

Kamisama dechu~
The first hour or so of that title was really very awesome, I was just like "what the heck is this???" :D
But in all honesty, sometime between the middle and last third of the main story (the first three episodes - the actual character routes can only be accessed by starting a new game *after* that...including a voiced protagonist this time) the endless looping became exhausting, despite the variations. I still didn't go through the individual routes because it was just total overkill, but I think I should someday.

Whoa whoa hold on...you say the character routes can only be accessed after going through the main story right? Which is what you say I'm on right now.

But....since he's automatically running through the pink door, and everything has been about Spica I assumed I was on Spica's route? Then the yellow door is next to it if I remember correctly so next would be Mira. These aren't the character routes? If that's the case I'm curious to know what the hell the difference is gonna be if Spica has another route...so far it's rather good I just don't see what they could do.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Moogy on February 03, 2010, 02:49:25 pm
Yeah all three of the main heroines in Sumaga have two routes.

I'm playing Hoshizora no Memoria atm. It's pretty good. 千波的にレツゴー
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Gore on February 03, 2010, 10:02:54 pm
Ahh alright, thanks Moogy. This is a rather big surprise for me, *hopefully* a good surprise. Won't know till I get there.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Moriken on February 04, 2010, 12:28:42 pm
Yeah all three of the main heroines in Sumaga have two routes.

I'm playing Hoshizora no Memoria atm. It's pretty good. 千波的にレツゴー

Ah, I really liked the true route in Hoshizora. But Chinamis route was...ehem xD
I should reinstall Sumaga to find out what exactly the difference between the "normal" Spica and the Spica-route itself is...hm...
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: maitrenuage on February 06, 2010, 09:46:59 am
Currently playing Kanon.

What's the problem with you Koi ? This VN is great  :)
As expected from a KGNE fan, you don't know what's good lol  :D

btw, Makoto is my waifu now. Everytime I hear her say "Auuuu" I get a nosebleed.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: AQZT on February 06, 2010, 01:07:07 pm
Currently playing Kanon.

What's the problem with you Koi ? This VN is great  :)
As expected from a KGNE fan, you don't know what's good lol  :D

btw, Makoto is my waifu now. Everytime I hear her say "Auuuu" I get a nosebleed.
I agree with Koi. Kanon was great, but it was a huge letdown after all the hype.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: KoiNoDensetsu on February 06, 2010, 10:27:53 pm
Currently playing Kanon.

What's the problem with you Koi ? This VN is great  :)
As expected from a KGNE fan, you don't know what's good lol  :D

btw, Makoto is my waifu now. Everytime I hear her say "Auuuu" I get a nosebleed.

Bleh, Kanon was just a moefest for me.  It didn't have a good story like it was made out to have.  It wasn't terrible, but too much filler.  The story isn't that amazing in the first place.

But Ayu is love~

And you obviously don't know what is good either if you are a Kanon fan but not a fan of KGNE. ;)  For the most part, KGNE has the more moe characters~ ;D
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: AQZT on February 06, 2010, 10:35:29 pm
Currently playing Kanon.

What's the problem with you Koi ? This VN is great  :)
As expected from a KGNE fan, you don't know what's good lol  :D

btw, Makoto is my waifu now. Everytime I hear her say "Auuuu" I get a nosebleed.

Bleh, Kanon was just a moefest for me.  It didn't have a good story like it was made out to have.  It wasn't terrible, but too much filler.  The story isn't that amazing in the first place.

But Ayu is love~

And you obviously don't know what is good either if you are a Kanon fan but not a fan of KGNE. ;)  For the most part, KGNE has the more moe characters~ ;D
I liked Clannad better than Kanon, and if I played KGNE, I have no doubt that I would love it. Its just taking that first step...
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: KoiNoDensetsu on February 06, 2010, 10:44:21 pm
Currently playing Kanon.

What's the problem with you Koi ? This VN is great  :)
As expected from a KGNE fan, you don't know what's good lol  :D

btw, Makoto is my waifu now. Everytime I hear her say "Auuuu" I get a nosebleed.

Bleh, Kanon was just a moefest for me.  It didn't have a good story like it was made out to have.  It wasn't terrible, but too much filler.  The story isn't that amazing in the first place.

But Ayu is love~

And you obviously don't know what is good either if you are a Kanon fan but not a fan of KGNE. ;)  For the most part, KGNE has the more moe characters~ ;D
I liked Clannad better than Kanon, and if I played KGNE, I have no doubt that I would love it. Its just taking that first step...

I'm still waiting for an edited patch to be released for CLANNAD.  ONE, MOON., and Kanon are the only Key games I've played. (MOON. was the only excellent one IMO)

And same to 11eyes if it is in the same style as Princess Waltz.  I loved PW~
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: AQZT on February 06, 2010, 11:02:32 pm
Currently playing Kanon.

What's the problem with you Koi ? This VN is great  :)
As expected from a KGNE fan, you don't know what's good lol  :D

btw, Makoto is my waifu now. Everytime I hear her say "Auuuu" I get a nosebleed.

Bleh, Kanon was just a moefest for me.  It didn't have a good story like it was made out to have.  It wasn't terrible, but too much filler.  The story isn't that amazing in the first place.

But Ayu is love~

And you obviously don't know what is good either if you are a Kanon fan but not a fan of KGNE. ;)  For the most part, KGNE has the more moe characters~ ;D
I liked Clannad better than Kanon, and if I played KGNE, I have no doubt that I would love it. Its just taking that first step...

I'm still waiting for an edited patch to be released for CLANNAD.  ONE, MOON., and Kanon are the only Key games I've played. (MOON. was the only excellent one IMO)

And same to 11eyes if it is in the same style as Princess Waltz.  I loved PW~
Your mentioning 11eyes has reminded me: Played F/SN yet Koi?
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Moogy on February 07, 2010, 04:18:05 am
Unfortunately, CLANNAD will most likely never receive the editing and TLC attention it both warrants and deserves. Quite a shame, really.

As such, if you're going to play it in English, you may as well play it now.

I highly recommend playing it (or watching the anime) at some point, by the way - CLANNAD (or at least After Story) is a masterpiece. Not much more to say than that.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Kiru on February 07, 2010, 04:54:15 am
Started Ever17 for my second route (Sara) and have just ended the second day.
I have to say that girl is really awesome and might even be better than Tsugumin. (And I really loved Tsugumins Route...) Sadly after her only two rather uninteresting girls remain. :/ But with Remember 11 being already over 80% translated, I figured I should slowly start to finish some other routes with this.

Anyway, that was quite a nice surprise with her character. :) (I thought she would be much more timid or something)
Oh and her CV as well... hello Rin. :D
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Moogy on February 07, 2010, 04:36:40 pm
Shitaya Noriko (Sakura), Ueda Kana (Rin), and Asakawa Yuu (Rider) are all in E17. Pretty funny since you usually don't see that much voicework crossover in games using all-ages CVs.

And of course Takeshi/Kid are voiced by Hoshi Souichirou, who did our good friend Maebara Keiichi in Higurashi. E17 has a pretty good cast overall...

I wish more VNs had all-ages CVs.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: the_paper on February 07, 2010, 07:09:19 pm
Managed to sneak the package of JAST eroge I bought together with Family Project across the border and past customs, ho ho ho. So I now have my hands on the translated versions of Kana, Yume Miru Kusuri, and Ever17, and will be playing them in that order. (Well, and shitty!DVD versions of Natsuiro no Sunadokei and Majo no Ochakai which I'll get around to someday when I'm bored.)

Story-wise Kana hasn't blown me away yet, but I'm enjoying it, especially the art, which it turns out is by my possibly all-time favorite H-mangaka Kengo Yonekura. It's also fun spotting all the backgrounds that were recycled for Family Project.

Finished Kokoro route of Remember11, except for the two endings that you can't get until you've started with Satoru. Also got back to Family Project and finished Chunhua's route, which I ended up liking quite a bit better than Aoba's, surprisingly. Saved my two favorites for last, so Matsuri next and then Jun.

Oh, and why did I not know that this (http://vndb.org/v3184) existed! I wonder if bugging JAST and asking for a port of it would achieve any results...
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Kiru on February 08, 2010, 03:15:25 am
Shitaya Noriko (Sakura), Ueda Kana (Rin), and Asakawa Yuu (Rider) are all in E17. Pretty funny since you usually don't see that much voicework crossover in games using all-ages CVs.

And of course Takeshi/Kid are voiced by Hoshi Souichirou, who did our good friend Maebara Keiichi in Higurashi. E17 has a pretty good cast overall...

I wish more VNs had all-ages CVs.

Yeah, though this one really hasn't any of my favorite actors in it, but oh well... I like at least Sara's voice, though I can't remember finding Rin's special or anything. (I actually looked up the name of the actress to find some more roles... only to find out I do know most and never found them to be anything special :| )

Anyway, some spoilers might follow for ever17 Sara's route, but I just have to rant about it anywhere. -_-
I'll avoid anything crucial, but read at your own risk. :)


So, in Kid's trunk we meet Sara who wasn't there in Takeshi's story at all and basically replaces Coco. I liked it, especially because Coco is rather annoying with her voice and childish behavior at times. I enjoyed the trunk far more then Takeshi's.
The route however was... well.. mediocre would still be to forgiving.

-First of all, why is it so short? Tsugumi's route was at least 5times longer or something. Sara doesn't even appear in two routes, so why did they do something like that... it's really really stupid. I allready played her route but still know her the least of all the characters in ever17.
-Answers would be nice. Though some elements were more something for the true route, there were stuff they should have explained. (e.g. a certain scene with Tsugumi and Sara)
-The asspull near the end... what the hell. Way to force the player into a romance he doesn't care about. This almost guarantees that I'll be pissed again in the true route, because I just can't see any other reason why they'd do some shit like this after so much romance-hinting beforehand.

I'd like to split the route into two parts. Amnesia-part and the "memories returned"-part. The first (rather large) part was pretty awesome, the second (rather short) one basically destroyed everything from the first one.
The plot suddenly became unimportant, the romance-hinting laughable because of that nice little asspull and then it ended. Sara had so much potential, most of it was unused. I'd go even so far and say she's probably totally unimportant...


So, in short: If you want to experience how to NOT make a route in a visual novel, read Sara's after Tsugumi's route in ever17... I never expected the same awesomeness, but still. This especially hurts me because Sara was always awesome, unlike Tsugumi who is basically a part-time bitch. :)
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: KoiNoDensetsu on February 08, 2010, 07:25:14 am
Currently playing Kanon.

What's the problem with you Koi ? This VN is great  :)
As expected from a KGNE fan, you don't know what's good lol  :D

btw, Makoto is my waifu now. Everytime I hear her say "Auuuu" I get a nosebleed.

Bleh, Kanon was just a moefest for me.  It didn't have a good story like it was made out to have.  It wasn't terrible, but too much filler.  The story isn't that amazing in the first place.

But Ayu is love~

And you obviously don't know what is good either if you are a Kanon fan but not a fan of KGNE. ;)  For the most part, KGNE has the more moe characters~ ;D
I liked Clannad better than Kanon, and if I played KGNE, I have no doubt that I would love it. Its just taking that first step...

I'm still waiting for an edited patch to be released for CLANNAD.  ONE, MOON., and Kanon are the only Key games I've played. (MOON. was the only excellent one IMO)

And same to 11eyes if it is in the same style as Princess Waltz.  I loved PW~
Your mentioning 11eyes has reminded me: Played F/SN yet Koi?

Nope. ;D  I still haven't finished Chain, and I started that a while ago.  I've been spending most of my free time on RPGs (too addicting!!) and (slowly) studying Japanese.

But I will play it eventually!

@Moogy: Did something happen with the TL team to keep them from finishing it?  I haven't really been paying attention to that project, so I just assumed they were taking a while to edit it.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: KoiNoDensetsu on February 08, 2010, 07:28:14 am
Managed to sneak the package of JAST eroge I bought together with Family Project across the border and past customs, ho ho ho. So I now have my hands on the translated versions of Kana, Yume Miru Kusuri, and Ever17, and will be playing them in that order. (Well, and shitty!DVD versions of Natsuiro no Sunadokei and Majo no Ochakai which I'll get around to someday when I'm bored.)

Story-wise Kana hasn't blown me away yet, but I'm enjoying it, especially the art, which it turns out is by my possibly all-time favorite H-mangaka Kengo Yonekura. It's also fun spotting all the backgrounds that were recycled for Family Project.

Finished Kokoro route of Remember11, except for the two endings that you can't get until you've started with Satoru. Also got back to Family Project and finished Chunhua's route, which I ended up liking quite a bit better than Aoba's, surprisingly. Saved my two favorites for last, so Matsuri next and then Jun.

Oh, and why did I not know that this (http://vndb.org/v3184) existed! I wonder if bugging JAST and asking for a port of it would achieve any results...

Kana doesn't get really good until the end. (it's still great before then, just not a tearfest)  Pray that you get either endings 5 or 6. ;D  Those are the most... powerful the first time through.

As for the KK fandisk, I hope a fan TLer picks it up.  I'm sick of JAST with their slow releases, edits, and poor translations.

@Kiru: Sara's route is generally regarded as the worst route in E17, and I agree.  Her route is mostly just set up for the true ending, whereas the other routes felt like they were their own route and not just an add-on to the true path.  I would have recommended playing her route last, but whatever.
And don't think that You and Sora's paths will be really weak. ;)  They are my second favorite paths.  I can't decide which one I like more.  You has the better character but Sora's route is more emotional.  Bleh, you will probably like You's more since that's the general consensus. (most people hate Sora for some reason >_>)  But you will be mindfucked when you play Coco's route. ;D
Ah, I wish I could replay Ever17 with no knowledge of what will happen...  Such a great game.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Kiru on February 08, 2010, 11:07:57 am
@Kiru: Sara's route is generally regarded as the worst route in E17, and I agree.  Her route is mostly just set up for the true ending, whereas the other routes felt like they were their own route and not just an add-on to the true path.  I would have recommended playing her route last, but whatever.
And don't think that You and Sora's paths will be really weak. ;)  They are my second favorite paths.  I can't decide which one I like more.  You has the better character but Sora's route is more emotional.  Bleh, you will probably like You's more since that's the general consensus. (most people hate Sora for some reason >_>)  But you will be mindfucked when you play Coco's route. ;D
Ah, I wish I could replay Ever17 with no knowledge of what will happen...  Such a great game.

I'm not so sure. It just doesn't feel right to be mean to the girl you like. :D (And I don't really like Sora's and You's archtypes...)
But if Sara really got by far the shortest and worst route out of ever17... I start to doubt that I can fully enjoy the true route. (except if she becomes surprisingly important. She'd deserve it but it IS Coco's route after all)
I'm a sucker for mind-fuck but so far it doesn't look so good. Well, I'm now continuing with Sora's route to get at least some conclusion.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Sirf*palot on February 08, 2010, 05:04:20 pm
Reading Kikokugai, and boy does it make me mad, (only up to the second chapter)  >:(

I mean damn, my be some of my siscon left over from Kana but what happened to Ruili makes me what to break something.


Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: KoiNoDensetsu on February 08, 2010, 06:28:27 pm
@Kiru: Sara's route is generally regarded as the worst route in E17, and I agree.  Her route is mostly just set up for the true ending, whereas the other routes felt like they were their own route and not just an add-on to the true path.  I would have recommended playing her route last, but whatever.
And don't think that You and Sora's paths will be really weak. ;)  They are my second favorite paths.  I can't decide which one I like more.  You has the better character but Sora's route is more emotional.  Bleh, you will probably like You's more since that's the general consensus. (most people hate Sora for some reason >_>)  But you will be mindfucked when you play Coco's route. ;D
Ah, I wish I could replay Ever17 with no knowledge of what will happen...  Such a great game.

I'm not so sure. It just doesn't feel right to be mean to the girl you like. :D (And I don't really like Sora's and You's archtypes...)
But if Sara really got by far the shortest and worst route out of ever17... I start to doubt that I can fully enjoy the true route. (except if she becomes surprisingly important. She'd deserve it but it IS Coco's route after all)
I'm a sucker for mind-fuck but so far it doesn't look so good. Well, I'm now continuing with Sora's route to get at least some conclusion.

Well, the true route will make fans of any character happy.  It's just that great. ;)  But I will admit that Sara and Sora get the least amount of attention in that route. (not that it really matters since the rest of the story is EPIC)  I just don't see how anyone could hate Coco's route unless they have hated everything about E17 so far or are just... weird.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Gore on February 08, 2010, 09:32:43 pm
I didn't like Ever17, I know I'm alone on this when I say it was rather boring. The ending was pretty good though.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: the_paper on February 08, 2010, 10:55:41 pm
Kana doesn't get really good until the end. (it's still great before then, just not a tearfest)  Pray that you get either endings 5 or 6. ;D  Those are the most... powerful the first time through.

I beat it last night with the normal ending, which I see from the walkthrough is different from the "Intellectual route" ends (guess I gave Kana too many manga?). Started a new game, gunning for the Yumi end just to get the bitch out of the way, but I seem to have hit an Intellectual route flag, since I just met Sumako and Cana. Hmmmm.

As for the KK fandisk, I hope a fan TLer picks it up.  I'm sick of JAST with their slow releases, edits, and poor translations.

Ordinarily I'd disagree, but you have a point regarding Family Project. Besides that, since the fandisk is Matsuri-centric, and it's Matsuri that received the brunt of the censorship in JAST'S release... :-[
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Moogy on February 08, 2010, 11:02:07 pm
@Moogy: Did something happen with the TL team to keep them from finishing it?  I haven't really been paying attention to that project, so I just assumed they were taking a while to edit it.
Everyone lost interest and/or disappeared. Bad end.

At least they finished translating it, I guess.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Kiru on February 09, 2010, 03:37:51 am
@Kiru: Sara's route is generally regarded as the worst route in E17, and I agree.  Her route is mostly just set up for the true ending, whereas the other routes felt like they were their own route and not just an add-on to the true path.  I would have recommended playing her route last, but whatever.
And don't think that You and Sora's paths will be really weak. ;)  They are my second favorite paths.  I can't decide which one I like more.  You has the better character but Sora's route is more emotional.  Bleh, you will probably like You's more since that's the general consensus. (most people hate Sora for some reason >_>)  But you will be mindfucked when you play Coco's route. ;D
Ah, I wish I could replay Ever17 with no knowledge of what will happen...  Such a great game.

I'm not so sure. It just doesn't feel right to be mean to the girl you like. :D (And I don't really like Sora's and You's archtypes...)
But if Sara really got by far the shortest and worst route out of ever17... I start to doubt that I can fully enjoy the true route. (except if she becomes surprisingly important. She'd deserve it but it IS Coco's route after all)
I'm a sucker for mind-fuck but so far it doesn't look so good. Well, I'm now continuing with Sora's route to get at least some conclusion.

Well, the true route will make fans of any character happy.  It's just that great. ;)  But I will admit that Sara and Sora get the least amount of attention in that route. (not that it really matters since the rest of the story is EPIC)  I just don't see how anyone could hate Coco's route unless they have hated everything about E17 so far or are just... weird.

Makes me wonder once again, why they even included Sara. Oh well, will probably read the remaining stuff after my two exams this week. It's not the first time that I like a character most who just is... unimportant. (Though it usually happens in anime it also happened in Aoi Shiro where they simply don't have a route at all :D )
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Ixrec on February 09, 2010, 02:16:54 pm
The first four routes basically have no purpose other than giving you tons of hints about what's going on until you're driven mad with curiosity. It sounds like you're either not picking up those hints (a painfully common issue these days) or simply disregarding them because absolutely no answers are given until the final route, which I honestly can't blame you for.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Kiru on February 09, 2010, 03:04:18 pm
The first four routes basically have no purpose other than giving you tons of hints about what's going on until you're driven mad with curiosity. It sounds like you're either not picking up those hints (a painfully common issue these days) or simply disregarding them because absolutely no answers are given until the final route, which I honestly can't blame you for.

I only continue playing this because of the mainstory. I just hope it's really worth it and not something I easily figured out before. (It's actually one of the problems I have with Umineko... it's not so interesting to see Battler struggle half an hour before he finally realizes the obvious :| )
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: the_paper on February 09, 2010, 08:29:50 pm
...Whoa. Yumi ending in Kana is REALLY fucked up.

Naq lbh qba'g trg n unccl raqvat jvgu ure (be rira gur punatr gb onat ure ntnva)! WTF?
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Gore on February 09, 2010, 09:38:29 pm

I should reinstall Sumaga to find out what exactly the difference between the "normal" Spica and the Spica-route itself is...hm...

Apparently not much, I've already played through all 3 stories and started Spica's route again today. I'm practically at the end(halfway through the death cycle at the school festival) and EVERYTHING has been the exact same. Either this walkthrough is wrong or there really is nothing different except for the end. I'm rather disappointed but oh well, it's my own damn fault for assuming it would be a completely different story.

It had some parts that really bothered me but altogether I rather enjoyed the game. I especially liked Spica, and Miyamoto was hilarious.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: the_paper on February 09, 2010, 10:20:58 pm
Randomly, is black-haired girl with kyonyuu gettable? Don't care for the other heroines from what I've seen, but she is kind of hot shit.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: the_paper on February 09, 2010, 11:11:34 pm
Fun fact: YU-NO is written by the Kenno Yukihiro / Kanno Hiroyuki who wrote Love Potion.

Wow, that is kind of hilarious. I'm looking forward to YU-NO even more (and in a slightly differnet way) now, haha.

The funniest part of Love Potion for me was how with every new woman the protagonist was confronted with, literally as soon as he sees her he would almost immediately make some kind of ridiculous innuendo-laden observation. Like, "She seems to be a student at this school. I believe she's majoring in ballistics, 'cause SHE'S SURE GOT SOME BAZOOKAS ON HER!" (How much of that can be blamed on the translator I dunno, though).
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: AQZT on February 09, 2010, 11:21:31 pm
Fun fact: YU-NO is written by the Kenno Yukihiro / Kanno Hiroyuki who wrote Love Potion.

Wow, that is kind of hilarious. I'm looking forward to YU-NO even more (and in a slightly differnet way) now, haha.

The funniest part of Love Potion for me was how with every new woman the protagonist was confronted with, literally as soon as he sees her he would almost immediately make some kind of ridiculous innuendo-laden observation. Like, "She seems to be a student at this school. I believe she's majoring in ballistics, 'cause SHE'S SURE GOT SOME BAZOOKAS ON HER!" (How much of that can be blamed on the translator I dunno, though).
Love Potion huh, sounds like something I want to play...
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Gore on February 09, 2010, 11:39:11 pm
Randomly, is black-haired girl with kyonyuu gettable? Don't care for the other heroines from what I've seen, but she is kind of hot shit.

I'm pretty sure she is, she has about 3 different H-scenes and some other CG's I haven't acquired from her yet. At least I'm assuming this means she has a route. I can't say for certain till I get there though.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: izmosmolnar on February 10, 2010, 12:44:16 am
Playing Trample on "Schatten" now. It's pretty fun.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Moriken on February 10, 2010, 05:37:07 am

I should reinstall Sumaga to find out what exactly the difference between the "normal" Spica and the Spica-route itself is...hm...

Apparently not much, I've already played through all 3 stories and started Spica's route again today. I'm practically at the end(halfway through the death cycle at the school festival) and EVERYTHING has been the exact same. Either this walkthrough is wrong or there really is nothing different except for the end. I'm rather disappointed but oh well, it's my own damn fault for assuming it would be a completely different story.

It had some parts that really bothered me but altogether I rather enjoyed the game. I especially liked Spica, and Miyamoto was hilarious.

Yes, well...I already assumed that the singular routes would probably mainly differ in their resolution, because the first three chapters were pretty much built on top of each other. But I still want to finish the game someday and try out the Sumaga Special. If the game has one fault though it's the art style. I'm not a big fan of it, especially how the breasts look.

I'm reading Kikokugai now (funnily in Japanese - some people translate it to english and I start the original. lol - there's some heavy vocabulary in there o.O). Seems to be exactly as I expected it to be - like a John Woo movie from the 80s with cyberpunk added on top xD
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: KoiNoDensetsu on February 10, 2010, 06:39:58 am
The first four routes basically have no purpose other than giving you tons of hints about what's going on until you're driven mad with curiosity. It sounds like you're either not picking up those hints (a painfully common issue these days) or simply disregarding them because absolutely no answers are given until the final route, which I honestly can't blame you for.

I only continue playing this because of the mainstory. I just hope it's really worth it and not something I easily figured out before. (It's actually one of the problems I have with Umineko... it's not so interesting to see Battler struggle half an hour before he finally realizes the obvious :| )

I would disagree that the individual routes have no meaning other than to build up the true ending.  Sora's route, in particular, felt like it stood on it's own more than the other routes.  The events in her path are vital in the true end, but just not as vital as the other girls.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: KoiNoDensetsu on February 10, 2010, 06:44:50 am
...Whoa. Yumi ending in Kana is REALLY fucked up.

Naq lbh qba'g trg n unccl raqvat jvgu ure (be rira gur punatr gb onat ure ntnva)! WTF?

The Yumi ending is probably the most disturbing ending in Kana...  Sure, the other routes are sadder, but the Yumi ending is just messed up. :o
But you should be getting the intellectual endings before all the rest...  It makes it so much more powerful. :'(

As for Love Potion, I've heard it's just okay.  Most people seem to hate it for it being a "bad eroge".  Then again, I love stories that are so bad they are hilarious. (I loved JAST's oldschool title, "Runaway City")
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Mazyrian on February 10, 2010, 07:41:58 am
The first four routes basically have no purpose other than giving you tons of hints about what's going on until you're driven mad with curiosity. It sounds like you're either not picking up those hints (a painfully common issue these days) or simply disregarding them because absolutely no answers are given until the final route, which I honestly can't blame you for.

I only continue playing this because of the mainstory. I just hope it's really worth it and not something I easily figured out before. (It's actually one of the problems I have with Umineko... it's not so interesting to see Battler struggle half an hour before he finally realizes the obvious :| )

I would disagree that the individual routes have no meaning other than to build up the true ending.  Sora's route, in particular, felt like it stood on it's own more than the other routes.  The events in her path are vital in the true end, but just not as vital as the other girls.

I agree. Even while the 4 routes build up for the true end, they are at the same time decent romance stories (well, Sara's not as such (not that I disliked it)). It's almost as Ever17 were two games in one: the 4 ren'ai routes, and the final route (which is what really makes this game great).

On another note, another thing I liked is that the bad endings are equally powerful (or maybe even more) as the good, and decent endings on their own; not just "and then you died".
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Kiru on February 10, 2010, 08:20:52 am
The first four routes basically have no purpose other than giving you tons of hints about what's going on until you're driven mad with curiosity. It sounds like you're either not picking up those hints (a painfully common issue these days) or simply disregarding them because absolutely no answers are given until the final route, which I honestly can't blame you for.

I only continue playing this because of the mainstory. I just hope it's really worth it and not something I easily figured out before. (It's actually one of the problems I have with Umineko... it's not so interesting to see Battler struggle half an hour before he finally realizes the obvious :| )

I would disagree that the individual routes have no meaning other than to build up the true ending.  Sora's route, in particular, felt like it stood on it's own more than the other routes.  The events in her path are vital in the true end, but just not as vital as the other girls.

I agree. Even while the 4 routes build up for the true end, they are at the same time decent romance stories (well, Sara's not as such (not that I disliked it)). It's almost as Ever17 were two games in one: the 4 ren'ai routes, and the final route (which is what really makes this game great).

On another note, another thing I liked is that the bad endings are equally powerful (or maybe even more) as the good, and decent endings on their own; not just "and then you died".

Sara's route: Well it started like a romance... it just... well. Guess I have ranted enough. :D

Bad endings: I have some ideas how I can get those however I thought I would skip them... maybe I should reconsider this and act stupid/indecisive after the true route to see what they are about. :/
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Moriken on February 10, 2010, 10:01:23 am
The first four routes basically have no purpose other than giving you tons of hints about what's going on until you're driven mad with curiosity. It sounds like you're either not picking up those hints (a painfully common issue these days) or simply disregarding them because absolutely no answers are given until the final route, which I honestly can't blame you for.

I only continue playing this because of the mainstory. I just hope it's really worth it and not something I easily figured out before. (It's actually one of the problems I have with Umineko... it's not so interesting to see Battler struggle half an hour before he finally realizes the obvious :| )

I would disagree that the individual routes have no meaning other than to build up the true ending.  Sora's route, in particular, felt like it stood on it's own more than the other routes.  The events in her path are vital in the true end, but just not as vital as the other girls.

I agree. Even while the 4 routes build up for the true end, they are at the same time decent romance stories (well, Sara's not as such (not that I disliked it)). It's almost as Ever17 were two games in one: the 4 ren'ai routes, and the final route (which is what really makes this game great).

On another note, another thing I liked is that the bad endings are equally powerful (or maybe even more) as the good, and decent endings on their own; not just "and then you died".

"and then you died" = Soul Link's bad ends lol.
I agree, the bad ends are pretty good in itself. Especially Tsugumis, if I associate the ending with the correct route...it was cruel *_*;
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: KoiNoDensetsu on February 10, 2010, 10:31:29 am
Sora and Tsugumi share the same bad ending.  Their bad ending is great.  Very emotional and it actually has a CG unlike You and Sara's bad end. (Coco's route only has one ending)  Sara's bad ending was just okay.  I would consider her's the worst of the bad ends. (shock!)  You's is pretty good but has no CG, so it was a little disappointing.

BTW, can someone suggest me a visual novel that is really well written/depressing and preferably short?  I haven't played any visual novels for a while and am having a craving.  I would finish playing CC, but that's failry long and Ixrec will supposedly release an updated patch in the future.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Gore on February 10, 2010, 11:10:37 am

Yes, well...I already assumed that the singular routes would probably mainly differ in their resolution, because the first three chapters were pretty much built on top of each other. But I still want to finish the game someday and try out the Sumaga Special. If the game has one fault though it's the art style. I'm not a big fan of it, especially how the breasts look.

I'm reading Kikokugai now (funnily in Japanese - some people translate it to english and I start the original. lol - there's some heavy vocabulary in there o.O). Seems to be exactly as I expected it to be - like a John Woo movie from the 80s with cyberpunk added on top xD

I actually love the art, especially the breasts lol. To each his own though.

I've got Sumaga Special sitting here already for whenever I get to it, I don't really understand what it is though. It apparently is mainly focused on 8 years ago so I guess you're going to play as Sakusa?

Sora and Tsugumi share the same bad ending.  Their bad ending is great.  Very emotional and it actually has a CG unlike You and Sara's bad end. (Coco's route only has one ending)  Sara's bad ending was just okay.  I would consider her's the worst of the bad ends. (shock!)  You's is pretty good but has no CG, so it was a little disappointing.

BTW, can someone suggest me a visual novel that is really well written/depressing and preferably short?  I haven't played any visual novels for a while and am having a craving.  I would finish playing CC, but that's failry long and Ixrec will supposedly release an updated patch in the future.

That "preferably short" part is hard to overcome. Immediately I thought of Planetarian but you have already played that.

The more I think about it the more I realize I really haven't played all that many short VN's. I honestly think Planetarian, Mushi tsukai, and Saya were the only ones.

Have you read Narcissu...?
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: izmosmolnar on February 10, 2010, 11:15:28 am
As been already said, play Kikokugai. 5 hours long or so, and awesome.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: maitrenuage on February 10, 2010, 11:33:58 am
I am You. <- Mindfuck
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Mazyrian on February 10, 2010, 03:52:13 pm
Have you tried the al|together games? Most of them are very short, are some are at least somewhat depressing, except for Narcissu, which is not "somewhat". The best ones are the 2005 ones (I liked very much Until we Meet Again), and the 2008 ones (though they're are a little longer). Then in 2006 you have OMGWTFOTL, one of the weirdest (if not THE) things I've played.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Balcerzak on February 11, 2010, 08:48:06 am
I'm currently taking a break from VNs for awhile.  Burned myself out right good at the end of the new year.  After I finish playing Hector's Hard Mode in Fire Emblem, I'll probably get back to finishing up Sharin no Kuni.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Kyon_Geass on February 11, 2010, 12:16:05 pm
Playing: 俺たちに翼はない~Prelude~ (Oretachi ni tsubasa wa nai ~Prelude~), 白詰草話 (Shirotsume Souwa), Flyable Heart (i like noizi's art, thats enought excuse to play it)

Planning to play in the future: Quartett!, 少女魔法学 リトルウィッチロマネスク (Shoujo Mahou Gaku Little Witch Romanesque) and Sugar Coat Freaks.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Gore on February 12, 2010, 02:03:20 am
Giving 3 Days a try, the end of the prologue actually scared me a bit. Reason enough for me to keep going, since this almost never happens playing a VN.

Just now realizing I'm on another death/revive game. I rather enjoy that setting.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Moriken on February 12, 2010, 12:21:20 pm
Playing: 俺たちに翼はない~Prelude~ (Oretachi ni tsubasa wa nai ~Prelude~), 白詰草話 (Shirotsume Souwa), Flyable Heart (i like noizi's art, thats enought excuse to play it)

Planning to play in the future: Quartett!, 少女魔法学 リトルウィッチロマネスク (Shoujo Mahou Gaku Little Witch Romanesque) and Sugar Coat Freaks.

The final omake-scenario in Oretsubas prelude is really funny. I loved it. Karuoooo~
But most of the rest essentially is a trial for the real game (which is one of the best VNs I know, I would recommend reading the real thing sometime :3).
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Kyon_Geass on February 13, 2010, 12:40:26 am
Playing: 俺たちに翼はない~Prelude~ (Oretachi ni tsubasa wa nai ~Prelude~), 白詰草話 (Shirotsume Souwa), Flyable Heart (i like noizi's art, thats enought excuse to play it)

Planning to play in the future: Quartett!, 少女魔法学 リトルウィッチロマネスク (Shoujo Mahou Gaku Little Witch Romanesque) and Sugar Coat Freaks.

The final omake-scenario in Oretsubas prelude is really funny. I loved it. Karuoooo~
But most of the rest essentially is a trial for the real game (which is one of the best VNs I know, I would recommend reading the real thing sometime :3).
I'm planning on (re-)playing Oretsuba after i finish some other VNs, as the level of dificulty of oretsuba is over the average and i dont have that much time playing VN in japanese, so yeah, ill atleast finish prelude for now (finished Chitose Syusuke's prologue by now, begining Hayato Narita's, sad prelude doesnt seem to contain Haneda's prologue, i did see some of it when playing oretsuba, and it was awesome....)
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: KoiNoDensetsu on February 13, 2010, 05:11:16 am
I just finished playing Saya no Uta. (decided on that because it was short and I have been meaning to play it)  I really liked it.  The endings were all very powerful in their own way, especially when combined with the ending themes.  My opinions on the characters changed from indifference, to liking them, to wanting to rip their hearts out, to liking them again, to-  Well, I think you can see where this is going... ;)  I am now a Nitro+ fan.  It's shocking that Phantom Integration hasn't been TLed by now since it is apparently only a little over 1 MB according to TLWiki.  Hopefully, someone works on that soon since JAST won't want to translate it due to it being unvoiced.

BTW, thanks everyone for the recommendations.  I'll keep them in mind the next time I decide to start a new VN.  I didn't realize Kikokugai was so short, so maybe I'll play that next.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Kiru on February 13, 2010, 06:00:04 am
It's shocking that Phantom Integration hasn't been TLed by now since it is apparently only a little over 1 MB according to TLWiki.  Hopefully, someone works on that soon since JAST won't want to translate it due to it being unvoiced.

http://vndb.org/r189

I somehow doubt there will be any more projects for it. (At least if there isn't some remake with improved storyline, graphics and whatnot. One new ending isn't really worth it. )
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: KoiNoDensetsu on February 13, 2010, 06:11:18 am
It's shocking that Phantom Integration hasn't been TLed by now since it is apparently only a little over 1 MB according to TLWiki.  Hopefully, someone works on that soon since JAST won't want to translate it due to it being unvoiced.

http://vndb.org/r189

I somehow doubt there will be any more projects for it. (At least if there isn't some remake with improved storyline, graphics and whatnot. One new ending isn't really worth it. )

I have seen it being discussed about using that release's translation as a base for an Integration project. (of course, with edits to the errors and whatnot)  This isn't only due to fact that Integration is a remake, but also because the rest of the world only got a crappy DVD-PG port. (albeit, with voice acting and improved CG)
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Moriken on February 13, 2010, 03:39:09 pm
I'm planning on (re-)playing Oretsuba after i finish some other VNs, as the level of dificulty of oretsuba is over the average and i dont have that much time playing VN in japanese, so yeah, ill atleast finish prelude for now (finished Chitose Syusuke's prologue by now, begining Hayato Narita's, sad prelude doesnt seem to contain Haneda's prologue, i did see some of it when playing oretsuba, and it was awesome....)

It's pretty funny that Haneda's story was my least favorite (because he's such a socially crippled loser - and just because the nightlife plots have the more colourful characters), but in the end it did contain the most moving scene in the entire game for me (namely, the climax scene of Miyako's route). I think Oretsuba probably has the best array of side-characters I've ever seen in an eroge, it's kinda like the friggin' Baccano/Durarara of eroge in that regard...^^
I really hope the writer will do more works, he's really good, especially his dialogues flow. And generally, we need more of these big city-love-stories instead of the gazillion of school settings. *_*
But I dunno about the writing difficulty. At least the author doesn't flood everything with rare kanji combinations (like in Kikokugai, for example). There are easier titles though, definitely.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Moogy on February 13, 2010, 05:01:56 pm
It's more trouble than it's worth to use Hirameki's translation as a basis for Integration.

First, there's the problem of actually getting the translation out of the DVDPG format. Enjoy OCR and manual QC.

After that, you need to deal with the fact that something like 33% of Integration wasn't in the version that Hirameki translated and the fact that Hirameki's translation is incredibly awful in many, many places and basically needs to be redone.

There was a project for Integration sometime last year but they gave up due to these reasons. It will not be translated.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: AQZT on February 13, 2010, 05:49:03 pm
http://vndb.org/v45
On a completely unrelated note, Phantom apparently has yet ANOTHER remake coming out for the 360. This time apparently just titled: Phantom.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: unkind on February 14, 2010, 06:20:56 am
Kikokugai, I fucking loved this game (as good as saya imo). It was SO good, there needs to be more dark/sci-fi FIGHTING oriented VNs translated! ^^ The OST is glorious as well.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: KoiNoDensetsu on February 14, 2010, 06:24:39 am
After that, you need to deal with the fact that something like 33% of Integration wasn't in the version that Hirameki translated and the fact that Hirameki's translation is incredibly awful in many, many places and basically needs to be redone.

That's more reason to TL Integration: To fix Hirameki's crappy translation, give a better format, and so that the extra content is translated.
While an Integration project may not happen anytime soon, I wouldn't be surprised if a project did start since the anime seems to be really popular.  If I was ever to start a TL team, this would be the type of project I would work on.

As for the new remake, it was announced a while ago.  I doubt it will keep the same name ("Phantom" is probably just a working title).  I wouldn't be surprised if they end up naming it "Phantom Requiem" since that was the anime's name.  If I remember correctly, the remake is supposed to include Requiem's path/ending, Requiem-based character designs (HD, of course), and possibly some other new path(s).  Honestly, I hope that they port this to the PC one final time so that we can have the ultimate Phantom release with voiceacting, H-scenes, and all the bonus content.  I love when companies milk their franchises and remake games multiple times~ ;D
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: maitrenuage on February 14, 2010, 09:36:25 am
It's OK, just confess all you want is to enjoy Mio's gunrape.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Gore on February 15, 2010, 12:41:32 pm
Since Baldr has been sitting on my computer for who the hell knows how long, I finally decided to try it. I have to say I'm utterly surprised at how much fun the gameplay is, I mean it's not ground breaking but when you were expecting something much less and then I get this....well you get where I'm going with this.

Probably about 25 hours in and I have to say it's quite awesome so far, even if it does feel ridiculously cliche. Only problem I have is my computer randomly freezing or going very very slow in combat. The major problem with this is the computer is still loading all the enemy movements just fine, I can hear them beating the shit out of me but I can't do anything till it catches up(This is rare thank god, but definitely problematic).

And then one time....oh man this pisses me off. When it switches chapters sometimes it asks you if you want to save, I hit yes, then went and overwrote an old file. But then when it finished the screen came back to a scene I had done about 6 hours before. For some reason instead of saving it fucking LOADED, and I hadn't saved since the last time it asked me to.

I been saving constantly since then, not making that mistake again.

Also don't play 3days unless you don't mind skipping through the same scenes over and over and over again. The prologue and the next couple days were pretty interesting, but after that it just dragged on and on. I literally skipped that damn lunch scene at least 20 times. Ending was pretty good though. I wonder if any of the knowledge I picked up from this will mean anything in 11eyes, same setting after all.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: izmosmolnar on February 15, 2010, 03:19:39 pm
Playing -atled- now. It's a pretty damn good game, with remarkably great production values and a cool time travel story.

Trample on "Schatten" was an excellent game, well worthy to play if you can stand random sex scenes (which includes tentacle rape and other rape), and meh side routes. The true route of the game was surprisingly great, and the game was way over the top all the way throughout ( = funny).
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: beliar on February 15, 2010, 03:45:10 pm
Famicom Detective Club Part II: The Girl in Back (http://vndb.org/v295) for, yes you guessed - Famicom, or rather Super Famicom. I just got an urge to try and see, how VNs looked like 20 years back. And I have to say I am impressed. Right now I am up to 4th chapter (out of 11) and despite the grafical limitations of the engine the storyline is very engaging. With a double murder mystery it reminds me of Eve: Burst Error - two seemingly unrelated cases are about to tie into one. Good stuff.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: izmosmolnar on February 16, 2010, 05:07:39 am
Yeah -atled- was a pretty awesome doujin game. Nice story, really likable cast, believable and logical situations, nice vocal music, and a really cute girl protag. I had to fight my tears back at the ending I saw. For some reason it bugged for me, probably due to messing up the files, and I couldn't see the other ending (or "the concert" whereever it is).

Onto Bullet Butlers now.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Kiru on February 16, 2010, 04:11:44 pm
So... Sono Hanabira 1:

First... it's nukige. However imo it is not bad at all, basically all thanks to Nanami, the protagonist. (female, well it's yuri after all^^)
If we ignore how the "romance" starts we get some nice "slice of life"-ish school story with some good comedy. Nanami really was great... she was great enough so that I actually started thinking about how great a normal novel would've been with her as the protag or something. -_-
She even managed to make one h-scene really funny, though it's questionable if this is the goal of something like that. :D ( It was the one in which she played "baby" and was the "active" one)
Most other h-scenes are simply h-scenes but some gain some value, thanks to Nanami's "ranting" afterwards. Even the most questionable scene got some value thanks to her and I was glad she stopped Yuuna to... well. :| (the one which gave the novel on vndb the "Urolagnia" tag)

So, if you don't mind that this is nukige and yuri I'd say give it a try... it's short, you can easily read it in one go.
Will definitely try the other ones, when their translation finishes, though I kinda doubt they will be as enjoyable for me.

edit: Ah, nearly forgot. The translation itself seemed to be quite fine/good as well. I think I only discovered one spelling-mistake or so... but I'm not native in english. It portraits the characters quite well with some playful words by Yuuna etc. (e.g. Her "Naaani?" in a playful tone is translated as "Yessy?" )
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: KoiNoDensetsu on February 21, 2010, 07:32:00 am
Playing Gyakuten Kenji/the new Ace Attorney game.  Don't know if that counts.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: KoiNoDensetsu on February 21, 2010, 07:32:53 am
It's OK, just confess all you want is to enjoy Mio's gunrape.

Hm, I didn't know there was a gunrape scene in Phantom...  But yes, now I am interested. ;D
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Kyon_Geass on February 21, 2010, 02:45:34 pm
It's pretty funny that Haneda's story was my least favorite (because he's such a socially crippled loser - and just because the nightlife plots have the more colourful characters), but in the end it did contain the most moving scene in the entire game for me (namely, the climax scene of Miyako's route).
Well, i just saw some of Haneda's chapter and didnt saw all of it, i liked the concept of Greta Gardo (グレタガルド), and all the stuff about belonging to that world.
 About the character itself, i though that he is kinda cool of everything, instead of viewing those who mess with him in a bad way, he sees them in a positive way and doesnt try to talk to people, but instead talks to however wants to talk with him, so i liked how his personality is, i have to say now that i am in the middle of Hayato's prologue in prelude, that the characters in the night are quite interesting.

But I dunno about the writing difficulty. At least the author doesn't flood everything with rare kanji combinations (like in Kikokugai, for example). There are easier titles though, definitely.
True, but still, they use a high number of kanjis which makes it difficult to read, not mentioning that most dialogues, (specially with haneda i noticed) take all the freaking text box @[email protected]
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: the_paper on February 21, 2010, 07:13:11 pm
Playing SonoHana 1 now, moving on to Kuchibiru to Kiss de Tsubuyaite (sixth game/second with Nanami and Yuuna) after that. It's really quite sweet, and the production values are quite impressive for a doujin game. Love that art.

And damn, Fuguriya released ANOTHER SonoHana game (Tenshi no Hanabirazome) a week ago! Amakute Hoshikute Torokeru Chuu (loli teacher) just came out in December, too. Time to go hunting for those in Akiba :3
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Gore on February 21, 2010, 08:03:07 pm
There appears to be a rather large amount of Sonohana games, probably gonna try out the first one, plus it appears to be translated too.


Just finished Nanoha's route on Baldr, I found it to be..."ok". I hope Chinatsu's does more for me. Well I won't know for awhile anyways, waiting till I finish my PC before I move on. PC keeps freezing during the timed fight with Fenrir, nobody can move but the damn timer keeps going.

Also both sensei and Chinatsu were rather easy, especially Chinatsu. I was expecting it to be a little more difficult(well it's on normal, not hard).
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: maitrenuage on February 22, 2010, 11:56:11 am
I'm currently playing Kikokugai.
Good game... obviously not as good as Saya no Uta 'masterpiece), but I'm enjoying it (except for the fights in fact).

Since I'm playing it, it means I'm done with Kanon. My verdict :
Makoto >> Ayu > Maï >>>>> Shiori > Nayuki
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: izmosmolnar on February 22, 2010, 06:05:57 pm
Everyone should play Symphonic Rain now that it has a stable patch. It's excellently executed, and the twists it has all the way throughout are remarkable. Just started the last route.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: AQZT on February 22, 2010, 08:56:30 pm
http://tsukuru.info/tlwiki/index.php?title=Killer_Queen
Killer Queen! Yes!!!!!!

http://tsukuru.info/tlwiki/index.php?title=Yosuga_no_Sora
TWINCEST!!!!!!! HELL YES!!!!!!!!

Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Kiru on February 23, 2010, 03:37:38 am
Everyone should play Symphonic Rain now that it has a stable patch. It's excellently executed, and the twists it has all the way throughout are remarkable. Just started the last route.

Is it rather easy to figure out how to play the routes/get the good ends?
I found some japanese walktrough, but it looked rather complex especially with google translations suck with so many "game"-words. :| So it would be nice if something like that wouldn't be necessary to complete the game.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: maitrenuage on February 23, 2010, 10:26:44 am
http://tsukuru.info/tlwiki/index.php?title=Killer_Queen
Killer Queen! Yes!!!!!!

http://tsukuru.info/tlwiki/index.php?title=Yosuga_no_Sora
TWINCEST!!!!!!! HELL YES!!!!!!!!

And don't forget Lamia
http://www.tsukuru.info/tlwiki/index.php?title=Lamia

If you've read "living with ..." you can't not like Lamia.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: izmosmolnar on February 23, 2010, 10:53:33 am
Is it rather easy to figure out how to play the routes/get the good ends?
I found some japanese walktrough, but it looked rather complex especially with google translations suck with so many "game"-words. :| So it would be nice if something like that wouldn't be necessary to complete the game.
Yeah the three normal routes and the abrupt end (or bad end if you want to interpret it that way) is obvious. Just concentrate on the location you can encounter the girl you are aiming for and avoid the other girls when she isn't available. If you try to go after more than one you get that abrupt end.
When you are done with those, Al Fine can be started from the menu, and it is twisted as hell. Great stuff. Then after completing it, the last scenario opens up, as you get a new choice early in the game, and if you do the choices/locations in a certain order, you are on the last route. This was my favorite route which answered all the remaining answers, + it's emotional as hell.
Here's a more detailed walkthrough, just atlas/honyaku it. (Don't use google translate, it's the worst automatic translator).
http://brightbell.main.jp/kipima/game/SR/index.html
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: maitrenuage on February 23, 2010, 12:06:09 pm
Only one thing to say about the end of Kikokugai :

(http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2007/01/its-beautiful.jpg)

If only Saya no Uta could have had an end like that...
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Kiru on February 23, 2010, 12:56:11 pm
Is it rather easy to figure out how to play the routes/get the good ends?
I found some japanese walktrough, but it looked rather complex especially with google translations suck with so many "game"-words. :| So it would be nice if something like that wouldn't be necessary to complete the game.
Yeah the three normal routes and the abrupt end (or bad end if you want to interpret it that way) is obvious. Just concentrate on the location you can encounter the girl you are aiming for and avoid the other girls when she isn't available. If you try to go after more than one you get that abrupt end.
When you are done with those, Al Fine can be started from the menu, and it is twisted as hell. Great stuff. Then after completing it, the last scenario opens up, as you get a new choice early in the game, and if you do the choices/locations in a certain order, you are on the last route. This was my favorite route which answered all the remaining answers, + it's emotional as hell.
Here's a more detailed walkthrough, just atlas/honyaku it. (Don't use google translate, it's the worst automatic translator).
http://brightbell.main.jp/kipima/game/SR/index.html

Yeah, thanks. That's the walktrough I've saved anyway, because the other one seemed to have explained how all the mechanics work in the game. (something I don't really need to know, even though it probably only tells you where which girl is and on what days you can meet her) Everything looked a bit strange from just looking at the walkthrough, but it's quite easy to follow after figuring out what the choices are etc.
Google-Translation is ok so far, it pretty much gives you the choices in "Choose up/down"-format anyway and the locations can be easily figured out. Strangly bable-fish is much worse in this case which I found quite strange. I thought it would be better than google.

Anyway, so far it's nice. (especially because I've learned to play an instrument when I was younger)
Torta is a nice girl overall, Fal... well dunno. Seemed not that interesting. Since there are three routes I'll probably meet a third one soon, that is if the third one isn't Phorni or Cordell. Well it looks like it isn't but who knows.

Only thing that's bugging me is that the voices aren't of high quality which seems strange given the size. There are some typical "low quality"-errors in voice-playback. Could be the fault of the hacking/patch, could be the fault of the game or could be at my end. :/
Interactive part: Switched it to easy as soon as the first song went past the beginning. No tutorial, which is kind of bad, given that you don't have to hit all the keys and it's something you have to figure out on your own.
Also since I can actually read real notes, the system used in this game is awkward as hell.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: izmosmolnar on February 23, 2010, 03:49:10 pm
Frankly I switched the gameplay off after like 4 or 5 tries, when I was embarrassed how everyone kept saying how terrible am I. No fun to read those, and racing for scores is silly. Well, I'm not really talented in this area anyway.

If you just started I'd recommend playing Lise => Fal => Bad end => Torta order, because I'd say that's the most enjoyable (definitely leave Torta for last).

Gamechoices aren't that hard really. The only one which could pose a challenge at the beginning is figuring out how to get on the very last route, but if you think logically even that isn't so hard (avoid all the girls and concentrate on composing/going home).

Voiceacting sucks? Might be something on your end then. Mai Nakahara who voices both Arietta and Torta performed tremendously stellar here (you will see this later), and I could say the same on whoever voiced Phorni (+even the protagonist's voice during the Al Fine route). I also liked Grave's voiceacting, he really is impossible not to hate.

Well, Fal is alright. Her route was interesting in the end though. Lise didn't appeal me first (Shy heroines are meh), however her route was pretty good too. If you like Damsel in Distress she's your kind. Torta's is really great and the most complex, her routes (in plural) really keeps the reader conflicted in my opinion. Of course when you only finished Torta's 'first' route you'll say it sucked due to being halffinished, but don't worry, there's a perfect reason for this later.

Also Phorni >>>>>>>>>>> Everyone else.
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Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Kiru on February 23, 2010, 04:15:40 pm
Frankly I switched the gameplay off after like 4 or 5 tries, when I was embarrassed how everyone kept saying how terrible am I. No fun to read those, and racing for scores is silly. Well, I'm not really talented in this area anyway.

If you just started I'd recommend playing Lise => Fal => Bad end => Torta order, because I'd say that's the most enjoyable (definitely leave Torta for last).

Gamechoices aren't that hard really. The only one which could pose a challenge at the beginning is figuring out how to get on the very last route, but if you think logically even that isn't so hard (avoid all the girls and concentrate on composing/going home).

Voiceacting sucks? Might be something on your end then. Mai Nakahara who voices both Arietta and Torta performed tremendously stellar here (you will see this later), and I could say the same on whoever voiced Phorni (+even the protagonist's voice during the Al Fine route). I also liked Grave's voiceacting, he really is impossible not to hate.

Well, Fal is alright. Her route was interesting in the end though. Lise didn't appeal me first (Shy heroines are meh), however her route was pretty good too. If you like Damsel in Distress she's your kind. Torta's is really great and the most complex, her routes (in plural) really keeps the reader conflicted in my opinion. Of course when you only finished Torta's 'first' route you'll say it sucked due to being halffinished, but don't worry, there's a perfect reason for this later.
Eh, and I thought Fal would be the "shy" one. :|
Anyway, I think I still have the choice between Fal and Torta. I thought I'd play Torta first because she has another route later and that way it might be more interesting... but I think about it.

VA: I don't mean the actors, I mean the sound-quality. There's randomly some distortion in the voices. It's basically the same "effect" you get, if you turn the sound volume to high and your speakers can't really handle it.
Really hard to describe.
It's the same thing that happens in ever17 mostly with coco's voice whenever it hits some not so normal frequency. (90% of all lines...) The better-quality voicepack solves this problem somewhat in ever17 though...

It's usually a sign of bad quality voices (in terms of bitrate, frequency etc), but the filesize of SR's voicepack is pretty large. :/
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Gore on February 23, 2010, 04:48:15 pm
Ahh I know what you're talking about, that was the worse part of Divi-Dead. It's kinda surprising that it would be in Symphonic though, considering it's a game about music(sound). Oh well I'll find out for myself if it's really like that after Sonohara and ID.

I decided to give that rootnuko mystery game a try since I been wanting a detective game for awhile, it's about a 6.5/10 so far. The music is wretched and the prologue was boring as hell but after that it's not too bad.


Also if I may ask a stupid question, since Symphonic has routes does it involve that miniature girl? I know there is no sexual content but with them getting together it would naturally assume sex in the future, but that's like Peter Pan doing Tinkerbell, impossible.

Or is this something the producers want me to overlook.

Edit: Also off-topic, does anyone here use Crass? The BGM's it rips are in OGG but no matter what I use I can't get the damn things to convert, everything says it's unrecognizable. What program do you use to access them(assuming someone in here does).
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: izmosmolnar on February 23, 2010, 06:12:14 pm
No, Fal is a gentle, firm girl, she definitely isn't shy (she's also a great _____).
Dunno about that sound problem, I haven't noticed anything odd myself.

No, you don't romance with that fairy in a way you'd with a normal girl (the most you see is she kissing you on the cheek). It's more complex than that which I can't explain without involving massive spoilers.

I used crass myself actually on Bullet Butlers bgm. Winamp couldn't play the oggs, but my zoomplayer with the K-Lite codec pack has no problem playing those. I even managed to convert them  to mp3 with "MP3 WMA OGG converter".
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Moriken on February 24, 2010, 02:57:30 am
Edit: Also off-topic, does anyone here use Crass? The BGM's it rips are in OGG but no matter what I use I can't get the damn things to convert, everything says it's unrecognizable. What program do you use to access them(assuming someone in here does).

For converting most audio formats, I use dbPowerAmp with all the codecs installed I need, especially because I consider lossless formats a waste of space and the asians really like their lossless formats >_>. Did extract a couple of BGM-archives from games, but I also could play the oggs I extractedwith winamp; don't know about Symphonic Rain though, I don't have it yet.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Gore on February 26, 2010, 06:35:51 pm
Yep I give up, still not working. I have every codec known to mankind on here now with about 20 different players and converters and nothing will recognize these damn files.

All I wanted was one god damn song from Comyu too, guess I'll just record it. Oh well, thanks anyways guys.

Also finished Chinatsu's route, was about a 7/10. All of Baldr 1 is maybe a 8/10, Rain's route was really entertaining but after that...ugh it was just rather mediocre. I really hope Baldr 2 is more entertaining, when it comes down to it I'm only interested in Sora anyways. Rain also reminds me of Saber for some reason, like her futuristic twin. This is probably only me though.

And for Comyu I'm about 10-12 hours in, I'm honestly not sure what to think of this game. I can't tell if I like it or not. That piano/chorus piece I want is absolutely beautiful though(at least to me it is).
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: izmosmolnar on February 26, 2010, 09:34:25 pm
If you wanted to get a bgm song from Comyu, then just use Phiber's kirikiri tool.
http://www.tsukuru.info/tlwiki/index.php?title=File:Kikiriki.rar
How to use the Encryption thingy: http://forums.novelnews.net/showpost.php?p=64993&postcount=6
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Gore on February 26, 2010, 11:06:49 pm
Oh thank god Iz, you have done well today. 10 points for Hungary.

That was rather easy to figure out how to work, and the music files actually work this time. The original error must have had something to do with the way I was extracting em with crass so they were coming out corrupted. This whole damn time I thought I was just missing a codec that somehow everyone else had that I didn't.

Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Moriken on February 27, 2010, 02:00:10 pm
I finally (finally) managed to complete Sumaga yesterday...while the true character routes were pretty much just good-end-variations of the first three chapters...Kusakabes and Okis routes are okay. Okis route was pretty amusing, actually. I know that someone in here did play Sumaga too (was it Gore? oô); if you haven't done it yet, I'd say just go for Kusakabes and Okis route, they, at least, are a bit different. The true end will start after finishing those two routes. It *was* very very obvious what would happen (esp. after Okis route) but kinda satisfying nonetheless. And now I need a break before Sumaga Special T_T
Time to finally complete Digital Devil Saga 2...and grind into oblivion to beat Satan. -___-
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: X-Calibar on February 27, 2010, 02:56:54 pm
I started playing Chaos;Head last week  ;D [skip my post to avoid bad taste]
Whose Eyes Are Those Eyes
Between 1 - 4 AM when my sanity is really low and it's making me a bit sleep deprived on those days...
Whose Eyes Are Those Eyes
[I play VNs slowly, randomly, and intensely, attempting to get into the main character's head each time :)]
Whose Eyes Are Those Eyes
I was playing Chaos;Head last night, and um
Whose Eyes Are Those Eyes
I just reached the scene where the earthquake happened.
Whose Eyes Are Those Eyes
I hate to have bad taste but... the exact time of the quake in game actually lined up with the major earthquake that occured today within minutes... (I checked later today when I read about it... no I wasn't remotely near it)
Whose Eyes Are Those Eyes
My head hurts... I need sleep
I think if I had been anywhere near the actual event I'd have been scarred for life ;p .. if I were able to be
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: maitrenuage on February 27, 2010, 03:20:52 pm
Well last week I was playing Kanon but nevetheless I didn't encounter any fox woman after that... :'(

Now I'm playing Aoishiro but it's true I'm begining to feel attracted to cute girl... hum wait thats normal since I'm a man.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Gore on February 27, 2010, 04:23:09 pm
I finally (finally) managed to complete Sumaga yesterday...while the true character routes were pretty much just good-end-variations of the first three chapters...Kusakabes and Okis routes are okay. Okis route was pretty amusing, actually. I know that someone in here did play Sumaga too (was it Gore? oô); if you haven't done it yet, I'd say just go for Kusakabes and Okis route, they, at least, are a bit different. The true end will start after finishing those two routes. It *was* very very obvious what would happen (esp. after Okis route) but kinda satisfying nonetheless. And now I need a break before Sumaga Special T_T
Time to finally complete Digital Devil Saga 2...and grind into oblivion to beat Satan. -___-

Yep that was me, I'm still on Spica's where it finally branches off differently from the first playthrough. Oki's is actually the route I really wanted to play anyways, but don't I have to play through Garnets and Mira's again before I can do her route?

Wait does Mira even have a second playthrough...after all that first ending of hers was actually good if you compare it to Garnets and Spica's.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Balcerzak on February 27, 2010, 08:48:25 pm
Well last week I was playing Kanon but nevetheless I didn't encounter any fox woman after that... :'(

Now I'm playing Aoishiro but it's true I'm begining to feel attracted to cute girl... hum wait thats normal since I'm a man.
Aoishiro was lovely.  I rarely play games that have engrossed me to such an extent in such an enjoyable manner.

That said, I finally finished Sharin.  I found it decidedly average.  Not sure what I'll work on next.  Probably more Swan Song editting or something...
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: izmosmolnar on February 27, 2010, 11:40:33 pm
Maybe try playing Symphonic Rain Bal. It's truly great.

Personally, I wouldn't consider Sharin vanilla complete until playing the fandisk's houzuki scenario. Its climax was better than the climaxes of the former, and in retrospect, one would see that ending in an entirely new light, which actually makes a lot of sense.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: maitrenuage on February 28, 2010, 04:36:24 am
Maybe try playing Symphonic Rain Bal. It's truly great.

For this one I'll be patient and wait for the final patch.
By the time I'm done with Aoishiro, Ef should also be out.

Haaa we're so lucky so many fans translate VN now. A few years ago I had to be cautious to not finish my VN to quickly since there weren't a lot of available title.
Now I have a huge list of "to play" eroge. :)
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: izmosmolnar on February 28, 2010, 04:54:40 am
You likely won't see a final patch other than this as no hacker helps the project anymore.
Still, it works perfectly well, and there is no reason to wait with it.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Metarail on February 28, 2010, 03:00:08 pm
Finally managed to clear that damn final dungeon in Ikusa Megami Zero after being stuck there for while (just couldnt get motivation to grind few levels so that I could beat those two last bosses in game). But overally IM Zero was pretty great experience, also lol'd a bit when I realized that Serika has more memory problems than Kou ever did, well in his case its pretty understandable. And in same sitting cleared that trial of IM Verita that came out few days ago, and it seems to be great continuation to series, and from that short trial it already feels that Verita will be come to be even more epic in the end than what Zero was, also the game mechanics in it was nicely more polished/upgraded. So yeah cant fucking wait when it gets released (but damn I hate how it cut out in cliffhanger to make it even harder to wait for it).

For other stuff been playing and nearing the end in Ar Tonelico 3, but really my laziness in learning kanjis and overreliance for automatic dictionary has been biting my ass badly. Also hurray for buying PS3 for game that you cant even fully understand, well there Demon's Souls too I guess, nice to have a game with challenge nowdays.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Moriken on March 01, 2010, 02:07:51 am
Yep that was me, I'm still on Spica's where it finally branches off differently from the first playthrough. Oki's is actually the route I really wanted to play anyways, but don't I have to play through Garnets and Mira's again before I can do her route?

Wait does Mira even have a second playthrough...after all that first ending of hers was actually good if you compare it to Garnets and Spica's.

No, you don't have to. I thought so too, but just tried it out and got Okis route before reading Garnets. So, Okis and Garnets route share common events because they are being triggered by *not* becoming a member of Galtia, same for Miras and Kusakabes. They don't overlap much though, still a lot of different text in them. So, they all can be accessed immediately, and only the events of Kusakabes and Okis paths are necessary for the events in the true end, so you don't need to read the true character routes of the etoiles, except when you really like them. (and I honestly didn't play this title for the main heroines, it's not really a character-based story I think)
Well, the 3rd chapter was more of a harem-type good end, so Miras route seems to be similiar except that the hero does only her (and just once!) haha >_> And Kusakabe has a role in it. Actually my favorite part probably is the romance between Miyamoto and what was her name again, his osanajimi from the newspaper club, but that happens in Kusakabes route too...so, hum...if you just want to finish the game, I'd say go for Kusakabe, Oki, true end, and then read something different :D
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Gore on March 01, 2010, 10:00:52 am
Oh so I don't have to play through Garnets again, well that's awesome right there. That was one thing holding me back, I really didn't want to go through Garnets and Mira's again.

But if I can jump straight into Oki's then I'm definitely going to play this again soon.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Moogy on March 01, 2010, 12:39:48 pm
I cannot understand anyone who rates Aoishiro a 10 and Sharin a 7. Sorry Bal. I do appreciate all the error reports you did for it though! Your vote for it also put it in the top 10 most popular games on vndb, I do believe. So that's something.

Finished playing A Profile; it's good stuff, I would recommend it to any fans of Sharin. Just don't play the remake (Sono Yokogao wo Mitsumeteshimau); all of the CVs suck except for Rizu's, they removed/altered text here and there, and the new route/endings they added suck balls. And, really, it just lacks the doujin charm and atmosphere that the original game had.

Moving on to CARNIVAL now. Gotta finish the rest of Hoshizora no Memoria too.

Also, working on Houzuki's chapter. It's fortunate that my Japanese has improved significantly since the original game because TNA assures me the latter half of the scripts was extremely lazily translated.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: the_paper on March 01, 2010, 06:16:03 pm
Maybe try playing Symphonic Rain Bal. It's truly great.

For this one I'll be patient and wait for the final patch.

Me too. I'm praying that they can find workarounds for all the problems with the engine (and bring back ranking mode!  :-[); that game sounds like it was no picnic to hack, but I'm keeping my fingers crossed for them.

Haaa we're so lucky so many fans translate VN now. A few years ago I had to be cautious to not finish my VN to quickly since there weren't a lot of available title.
Now I have a huge list of "to play" eroge. :)

Word. There are like 15 games with translations on my to-play list; I can't finish things fast enough to keep up with all the releases. It's really wonderful to see the community blossom this way.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: the_paper on March 01, 2010, 06:22:19 pm
Now I'm playing Aoishiro but it's true I'm begining to feel attracted to cute girl... hum wait thats normal since I'm a man.

Which one in particular? Nami? (Or just the whole cast?)

Regarding the Aoishiro vs. Sharin comments, I do love Aoishiro, but it's not too hard to see that most of the work went into the art/voice/music end of the game over the story. Not that it's bad by any means, but I feel like it had quite a bit of potential that it didn't really deliver on. A lot of the routes feel like they're over before they've really started once you reach the island.

Can't really comment on the comparison until I play Sharin, though. Which is next on my gamelist, after I finish Family Project, Kana, and the rest of Satoru's route in Remember11 (latter would go a lot faster if he would STOP TALKING ABOUT PARTICLE PHYSICS AND STUFF GODDAMMIT  >:().
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Gore on March 01, 2010, 07:33:49 pm
Aoishiro a 10....I see 9 of them in fact.

I think the difference between my idea of "masterpiece" and the way others view it must be different. Even Muramasa only got a 9 from me and that game was fucking amazing no matter which way I looked at it. Alternative my favorite VN almost didn't get a 10 either, even now I still consider changing it.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Balcerzak on March 01, 2010, 10:14:04 pm
I cannot understand anyone who rates Aoishiro a 10 and Sharin a 7. Sorry Bal. I do appreciate all the error reports you did for it though! Your vote for it also put it in the top 10 most popular games on vndb, I do believe. So that's something
I'm not gonna go too in-depth on things because OPINIONS and all, but let me just say that throughout Sharin I had this nagging feeling about certain things, and by the time the "twist" came around I'd pretty much predicted it.  I also found the moralizing aspects of it distasteful, and at times quite heavy-handed, like I was watching an after-school special or something.  Add in a lot of forced drama, and routes lasting way longer than they should have for their own good, and you can begin to see sort of the larger picture of things I didn't particularly like about Sharin. 

Houzuki, that glorious bastard, was a complete show-stealer, and easily the best part of the Visual Novel, hands down.  Ririko was probably best heroine, but all of her appeal (read sadism) disappeared in her ending, which was a huge disappointment.

My explanation on Aoishiro will follow later.

Regarding the Aoishiro vs. Sharin comments, I do love Aoishiro, but it's not too hard to see that most of the work went into the art/voice/music end of the game over the story. Not that it's bad by any means, but I feel like it had quite a bit of potential that it didn't really deliver on. A lot of the routes feel like they're over before they've really started once you reach the island.

Aoishiro certainly did have outstandingly stunning production values.  Everybody else seems to mention finding shortfalls in the story aspects, but honestly, I didn't notice too much of this at all, aside from obviously the epilogues, but since the routes had already reached and resolved their climaxes (in most cases quite splendidly) I honestly just enjoyed them as the tacked on filler that they were.

I thought the actual bulk of the story was stunningly well-crafted, and the inter-relations between the routes was brilliantly executed, where the same events happened precisely the same way in each route, but for the subtle variations that arose due to your particular actions.  E.g. on night X, Kaya will always fight with Kohaku, then proceed across the steps while at the same time the trouble with Yasumi and Ayashiro is going on.  The execution in how various aspects of this were elevated in importance was in my opinion handled flawlessly, and required no suspension of disbelief unlike, say for example, Fate/Stay Night where the absolutely gigantic differences between the routes can be hard to swallow.  I much preferred getting to see the same events unfold, from slightly different angles, and paying attention to the subtle differences.

Then I haven't even gotten to what I enjoyed the most.  The fantastic branching system, decision trees, and dead endings.  Aoishiro exemplified everything I love about visual novels in this respect (and their predecessors from my youth, Choose Your Own Adventure novels), easily topping the previous contenders in this category (Type Moon).  Most other Visual Novels the choices and branching is trivial and boring.  Want to fuck Heroine Y? Be nice to her. QED.  Here how things unfold can be influenced in several different ways, and at some points in the game you find out that a decision you made back at the very beginning of the route leads to an unavoidable bad end that won't reveal itself until the very end of the route.  This is the kind of stuff I absolutely love!  It's like a treasure hunt, almost, and trying to figure it out is amazing, fun, and fresh (though on occasion, tedious).

Finally, its genre matches one I dearly love, supernatural horror.

Aoishiro a 10....I see 9 of them in fact.

I think the difference between my idea of "masterpiece" and the way others view it must be different. Even Muramasa only got a 9 from me and that game was fucking amazing no matter which way I looked at it. Alternative my favorite VN almost didn't get a 10 either, even now I still consider changing it.
tl;dr Aoishiro excelled in all the areas I want my visual novels to, and did it better than any other visual novel I've ever played, bar Saya no Uta, which is my other 10.


[Remember11] would go a lot faster if he would STOP TALKING ABOUT PARTICLE PHYSICS AND STUFF GODDAMMIT  >:(.
I'm now actually intrigued.  Is this legitimate particle physics, or "let's just make shit up," because this is actually my field of specialty.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: the_paper on March 02, 2010, 12:01:44 am
[Remember11] would go a lot faster if he would STOP TALKING ABOUT PARTICLE PHYSICS AND STUFF GODDAMMIT  >:(.
I'm now actually intrigued.  Is this legitimate particle physics, or "let's just make shit up," because this is actually my field of specialty.

You're welcome to take a look at the Satoru scripts on the wiki (or even to give the game a spin; there's a development patch) and tell me  :P They sure seem complex enough to be real, plus he psychology infodumping in Kokoro side was quite accurate on the whole. But that's my personal area of expertise, and now that it it's all wave equations and Schrödinger's cat and stuff, I'm lost.

But seriously, an editor that knows what they're talking about when it comes to the complex scientific theory and things that he throws out would be much appreciated for Satoru. Hint hint. Maybe we could recruit you for beta?
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: izmosmolnar on March 02, 2010, 04:50:40 am
Me too. I'm praying that they can find workarounds for all the problems with the engine (and bring back ranking mode!  :-[); that game sounds like it was no picnic to hack, but I'm keeping my fingers crossed for them.
The problem is, there's no "they" and "them". Only Phar and he can't do any hacking, so I'd say waiting for anything else is kinda like how it was with the Chaos;Head patch, which also never got a final patch.

I dropped Bullet Butlers. Don't play it unless you love 70-75% of your scenario with narration about political shenanigans of dragons (yes, only around 25-30% of the script is actually dialogue), spend about half the game inside a mansion reading about characters dicking around whereas nothing really happens aside of repeating the same old joke cliches (it might be funny the first time around but not the 135584th time), or play as one of the most boring protagonists ever (I swear he repeats "WATASHIWA MAMORU OJOUSAMA" about 1000 times). Also, every second or third scene is a flashback, so yeah.
Terribly paced game. The cg gallery might hints that it's an action eroge, but in reality, the action scenes don't contribute much overall aside the last climaxes. Also protag has no development in such a way whereas he'd get stronger, since he possess everything right at the beginning. Lame.
Game got cool bgm, cool art, some great characters (the gun, Wraith, Ernesta, Porky, Gara), but fuck this shit. It simply isn't worth it. Just think of all the other games you could be reading instead of this... I'm wary to play Ayakashibito now myself, since almost every creator is the same, even though everyone says it's supposed to be totally different.

Reading Soshite Ashita no Sekai Yori now. It's pretty fun so far. I love end of the world stories.

edit: typo
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Kiru on March 02, 2010, 08:29:50 am


Me too. I'm praying that they can find workarounds for all the problems with the engine (and bring back ranking mode!  :-[); that game sounds like it was no picnic to hack, but I'm keeping my fingers crossed for them.


You can easily access rankings if you use the old (original) exe.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Moriken on March 02, 2010, 08:34:55 am
Aoishiro a 10....I see 9 of them in fact.

I think the difference between my idea of "masterpiece" and the way others view it must be different. Even Muramasa only got a 9 from me and that game was fucking amazing no matter which way I looked at it. Alternative my favorite VN almost didn't get a 10 either, even now I still consider changing it.

Which reminds me that I'd love to have half-steps for scaling in VNDB...I sometimes switch titles from one number to the other because they're really inbetween two other titles etc. ~.~
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: maitrenuage on March 02, 2010, 10:15:40 am
Now I'm playing Aoishiro but it's true I'm begining to feel attracted to cute girl... hum wait thats normal since I'm a man.

Which one in particular? Nami? (Or just the whole cast?)

Yasumi is the best of course because she is the "weak girl" in the cast.
For the opposite reason I hate Migiwa.

I gave Sharin no Kuni a 8 and I'll give the same note to Aoishiro even if I prefer the latter.
It's just that I hated Kouski and all the background in SnK... Maybe too much drama also.


Quote
Which reminds me that I'd love to have half-steps for scaling in VNDB...I sometimes switch titles from one number to the other because they're really inbetween two other titles etc. ~.~
Seconded
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Gore on March 02, 2010, 06:26:18 pm
lol Bullet Butlers was that bad Iz? I really hope Ayakashibito is nothing like that then, I've had it on my computer for awhile now and I've heard good things about it too.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Moogy on March 02, 2010, 10:38:16 pm
Yeah, izmos is correct re: SR. If you want to play it in English, there's no reason to hesitate further; the hacking will most likely never be "completed." It's fully playable and edited as-is, so go for it.

And on the topic of ratings... Out of the games I've played, I consider Sharin no Kuni, Cross Channel, and CLANNAD to be "masterpieces." That said, on my EGS account, they are rated 95, 93, and 91 respectively. (I have the former two as 10 on vndb, but that's simply due to the restrictions of a 1-10 system.)

I think it's a bit foolish to assign a perfect score to anything; it's akin to saying that your search for entertainment, enlightenment, whatever it is you get out of these things, is over. If I could rate After Story separately from School Life, it would get a 99 - I think that's as close as I will ever come to giving anything a perfect score.

Well, just my thoughts on it.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Metarail on March 03, 2010, 12:59:03 am
In world there exist no such thing as perfection, so just rating something with full-points would mean that its something someone would consider be as near perfection as one can get. Well thats how I see, personaly when I rate something I try to somehow look at them objectively and then add entertainment/like factor which is useally something like +/-2 points to score. But overally there are many different ways to rating things, so it's rare that everyone thinks about rating the same way. Altough I think someone who gives too much "perfect" scores is someone who doesn't really know what they themselves think is perfect.
For me a perfect VN would be something that doesn't bore me at all, wakes some emotion in me or makes me think, has good characters, and is generally well made, altough it might have something "not so good" things as long as they don't bother me, and they can exist as long as there isn't too many of them. Then theres the phantom factor called enjoyment ("phantom" because you just sometimes can't identify the thing that makes it enjoyable to you), if I just can't enjoy something I can't rate it perfect.

Well that's some of my toughs on about rating stuff.

As for Bullet Butlers and Ayakashibito, have played one route in both. I tough that BB was overally good when something started to happen but had also a lot of boring moments. After finishing one route in it I just really didnt have the drive to play others tough, so that tells something. As for Ayakashibito it is a lot better than BB in my opinion as there is very little boring moments, if there isn't some action going then the comedy moments are pretty good and makes you laugh or there's some plot development going. For some reason I stopped reading it when I was in middle of my second route, can't really remember why I stopped as it wasnt bad or anything, probably should get back to it sometime soon after I get some more time. Well I do have this bad habit of getting derailed to on some other stuff and forgetting things and putting them on hold for long time.

tl;dr
Ayakashibito > Bullet Butlers anyday of the week
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Kiru on March 03, 2010, 06:51:48 am
I always simply round my ratings.

9.5 rounded means 10. That way everything is consistent and I don't have such problems if something is for example "exactly" between 8 and 9. I'd simply give it a 9 and that's it.

Otherwise there's also the enjoyment thing, if you really enjoy one game/anime/whatever the whole time, it doesn't mean there isn't something else you'll also enjoy that much... and enjoyment is pretty much the most important thing.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Shikiller on March 03, 2010, 09:07:14 pm
I'm going to play Symphonic Rain most likely, I've heard good things about it, plus one of the characters is voiced by Nagisa's seiyuu, Nakahara Mai I think.


Maybe I'll try My GF is the President too... Anyone played it?
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Moogy on March 03, 2010, 09:54:27 pm
plus one of the characters is voiced by Nagisa's seiyuu, Nakahara Mai I think.
Indeed. She actually voices two characters in SR, in fact.

As you can tell from the staff listing on the SR page on TLWiki, I have a vested interest in the game because of this. Unfortunately I've sworn off playing translated games so it will be a while longer before I have an opportunity to enjoy Nakahara's melodious tones in SR.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: the_paper on March 03, 2010, 10:41:40 pm
Maybe I'll try My GF is the President too... Anyone played it?

I have suddenly found myself as QC/checker for Osadai, which was probably due to liking it enough to edit the trunk scrupts voluntarily, so I'd have to say I endorse its candidacy. I haven't actually played through anything more than the demo, but that should be enough of an  indicator to you whether it's for you or not.

As to content, it's funny, although more in the "amused chuckle" vein, and it's fun to try to pick out all the pop culture references in it (that and enjoy the RANDOM ENGRISH). Routes diverge pretty drastically (were all by different scenario writers IIRC), so hopefully at least one will be to your taste. I will say that I find the heroines to be some of the hottest in any game I've played, though.

Also, Cthulhu is a character in this game! And a loli!
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Moriken on March 04, 2010, 04:26:17 am
Maybe I'll try My GF is the President too... Anyone played it?

Yes, although I dropped it halfway in the first route. Good production values, but the comedy is so lame that I'm seriously asking myself if it even HAS jokes. I probably expected too much - no wonder with that scenario! - but it's a deredere/nukige-thingy at core, although disguised as a comedy-heavy title - which it is not.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Gore on March 04, 2010, 07:01:02 am
You were right Moriken, it let me dive right into Kiki's route. I just marathoned it which is rare for me, definitely going to bed soon. Anyways it was rather entertaining for the most part, and you didn't even die that much in her route. Usually I don't care for her arch-type(is this the right term?), but she was quite awesome and didn't bore/annoy me at all.

Miyamoto is definitely the best part of Sumaga, love that guy.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Moriken on March 04, 2010, 02:55:48 pm
You were right Moriken, it let me dive right into Kiki's route. I just marathoned it which is rare for me, definitely going to bed soon. Anyways it was rather entertaining for the most part, and you didn't even die that much in her route. Usually I don't care for her arch-type(is this the right term?), but she was quite awesome and didn't bore/annoy me at all.

Miyamoto is definitely the best part of Sumaga, love that guy.

It's archetype :D And Shiraishi ftw xD To think I know that guy from Lucky Star...
I'll start Sumaga Special next week I think... once I finish my paper about jap. history -_-
After so much Sumaga, I start missing voiced protagonists. It's just chilled to sit back when you're tired and just listen, not having to read much.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Gore on March 04, 2010, 08:17:58 pm
Yeah I like the faced/voiced protagonists more personally.

By the way could you(or anyone else) pack up and upload your nss folder from Sumaga somewhere. I tried starting Kusakabe's route and it keeps crashing when I reach the clubhouse, apparently I did something wrong with mine when I grabbed all the "fixes" from those two hongfire threads.

After I finished a few routes I figured it was fine and deleted the original nss over a month ago, I regret that now.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: ramengud on March 05, 2010, 03:34:42 pm
I just started playing symphonic rain and I am using the English patch. But my problem is that when I play, there is no text. I am using Windows 7 and my locale is set to Japanese. Anyone knows a fix for this? thanks.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Gore on March 05, 2010, 08:44:30 pm
I'm pretty sure that happened to me before when I didn't have a certain font installed. I could be wrong but that might be your problem.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: ramengud on March 05, 2010, 09:50:25 pm
I have installed the font and it still does not seem to work.
I am not sure but does the English patch work with the treasure edition of Symphonic rain? or Does it only work with the original version? Because I only have the treasure edition of the game, I thought that this might be the problem. Thanks for your reply.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: ramengud on March 06, 2010, 12:05:43 am
Thanks a lot. I finally got it to work. What I did was change the formats, location and default keyboard to Japanese and it worked.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Shikiller on March 09, 2010, 07:40:41 pm
Geh, that music play mode it's a nightmare, I suck so hard.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: izmosmolnar on March 10, 2010, 04:38:41 am
I sucked at it too, so I just switched it off :P .
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Kiru on March 10, 2010, 03:24:39 pm
Heh, and I already spent over an hour in free-play with the first three songs available, including the OP. (although on easy)

The score reflects pretty well how much better you become. I started maybe with 5000points on those songs (or even less) and gradually improved it. By now I have over 20000points as my highscore for all three songs.

Don't know if I ever try normal or even hard difficulty, but it's still a very nice game since your own input actually affects the resulting music instead of just getting funny sounds for hitting the right/wrong key on time.

It really helps if you have some feeling for music, i.e. having played some instrument or whatever. Though this is simplified you won't be able to play it perfectly on the get go. That's how music works.
If you can't hold the beat you probably have a major problem though. (and it's not even something you can easily learn, either. Some people don't really have it with music :) )


Even though, I'd like to encourage people to use the free-mode in Symphonic Rain to play around a bit with the system. Practicing the songs is a must, but maybe you'll start to have fun doing so.
I think it's really nice to hear how you improve and the song is gradually sounding better and better. (Well I played an instrument for quite some time, so...)
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Gore on March 10, 2010, 09:38:28 pm
It's really that difficult?

And actual musical knowledge helps you on it?

To be honest the game just didn't seem all that interesting considering what I am into. But the more I hear about the musical aspect the more interested I am.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: izmosmolnar on March 10, 2010, 11:56:30 pm
Yeah it doesn't look interesting, but it is a fascinating game in reality.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Kiru on March 11, 2010, 03:11:30 am
It's really that difficult?

And actual musical knowledge helps you on it?

To be honest the game just didn't seem all that interesting considering what I am into. But the more I hear about the musical aspect the more interested I am.

I think on hard you have 8 keys = notes you have to play right. (everything you see in the games songs)
On easy it's only 4, the other 4 are automatically played... and normal has 6 you have to play yourself.
I'm only sure about the easy mode though but I think this should be about right.

If you play the minigame you will see the keys you have to press coming from the right to the left of the screen and theoretically you have to press them when they reach a certain area. The closer to the middle of this area you hit the key, the more points you earn.
This minigame really isn't new or anything (e.g. a somewhat similar system is used in AT2's battle-system, tough without different keys, only the timing-thing), however the musical-aspect gives it another twist.

Keys somewhat resemble notes. (They aren't all on one horizontal line but have different highs to indicate how high/deep the pitch of that note is... and of course how far to the right/left the key on the keyboard is that you have to push. )
Furthermore you actually accompany the song, so with a bit of training, you also listen to the part where you are and push the keys accordingly to the beat and only secondary to the actual "target-area".
If you can't do that, you will have problems with some of the faster parts of the songs.

Well this game isn't perfect. For that I'd want to have the possibility to play/train those things with real notes on a sheet and thus to freely choose parts I want to train. (Of course without the other music accompanying me)


Oh and let's not forget that this is unneeded for reading the VN. (Actually even if you do the minigame, you won't play that often) However, imo they did quite a nice job with this minigame especially if you consider that lots of people probably don't care at all about minigames in VN. First and foremost VN are.. well... novel and novel don't really need gameplay.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: yimw on March 11, 2010, 03:49:42 pm
At first it may seem daunting but once you get used to it the rhythm game is actually pretty easy. On normal at least. I probably should've switched to hard because normal was too easy. Only Fal's song gave me any trouble but the way it's set up makes it easy enough to clear by racking up points toward the end.

Speaking of that, it's odd how unlike other rhythm games (or at least any I've played) you can't fail a song midway. No matter how bad you mess up you can always recover later on because only your bar at the very end of the song matters. That takes away a lot of the challenge.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Kiru on March 11, 2010, 04:05:47 pm
At first it may seem daunting but once you get used to it the rhythm game is actually pretty easy. On normal at least. I probably should've switched to hard because normal was too easy. Only Fal's song gave me any trouble but the way it's set up makes it easy enough to clear by racking up points toward the end.

Speaking of that, it's odd how unlike other rhythm games (or at least any I've played) you can't fail a song midway. No matter how bad you mess up you can always recover later on because only your bar at the very end of the song matters. That takes away a lot of the challenge.

If you only play for them saying you are good in the story.. but you won't really get a high score by doing this. :)
I think it's good that way because otherwise even more people would turn the game off.
For those who want it harder there is the score that reflects every mistake you make (including slightly missing the beat etc)
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Sirf*palot on March 11, 2010, 04:23:01 pm
Theres only one version of the original "Muv Luv" right? As opposed to alternative (which as renewal version vs original?.

Sorry for asking, just making sure cause I get confused on getchu.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Gore on March 11, 2010, 07:26:31 pm
There should only be one DVD version, the one I linked in the Muvluv thread is it. 2004/04/30 <--Can always check the release date too to make sure.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Balcerzak on March 12, 2010, 06:22:00 pm
Farland Symphony.

Pretty nice SRPG hybrid, nothing spectacular but fairly solid enjoyment if you're into that kind of stuff (and boy am I ever).  Played up to the final battle, turns out I can't win because I didn't grind, so I need to go back to an earlier save and do some more levelling most likely.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: the_paper on March 12, 2010, 07:02:29 pm
I found a used copy of Hinatabokko at Sofmap last time I was there, and now I'm sitting down to play it. It's 110% slice of life and super uneventful - certainly no Katahane - but I like all the character voices, and the art is typically lovely Fue work (the main reason to get the game, IMO), so it's sure not a chore to play. Also, alert to TakaJun and other imouto fans: EVERY CHARACTER in this game has a little sister (or two). The OP song is also lovely (made me want a Hakoinu plush).

In short, it's peaceful, cute, and imouto-filled; something I'll probably rank a 6 on VNDB when I'm done.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Gore on March 13, 2010, 10:20:27 pm
Tried playing Hoshizora, kept having some graphical error 2 minutes into it and I can't figure it out. Then I moved onto 天神乱漫 LUCKY or UNLUCKY!?. At the end of the prologue when the OP starts my computer shuts down.

Turns out the OP movie uses an incompatible codec with my video driver just like GSS OP and some animes do. Although unlike GSS I can't just remove the video from the folder and move on, and there is only 3 drivers for this video card and they all have the same problem(also have vertical sync errors with almost every fucking video game). Dropping that one too till I finish this new PC.

Gonna try Megami Zero since Metarail made it sound pretty good and the gameplay looks entertaining, hope I don't encounter another fucking error.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Moriken on March 14, 2010, 01:30:11 am
Tried playing Hoshizora, kept having some graphical error 2 minutes into it and I can't figure it out. Then I moved onto 天神乱漫 LUCKY or UNLUCKY!?. At the end of the prologue when the OP starts my computer shuts down.


If you mean Hoshizora no Memoria, I had that too...but I think it merely had to do with switching time, regional etc. settings over to japanese and getting the latest patch from the official page was crucial. Hum...
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Metarail on March 14, 2010, 01:57:57 am
@Gore
Yeah, Ikusa Megami Zero is pretty great, definately recommend it. Altough it has bit of slow start as during the 2 first chapters the protagonist is just way too ordinary (your everyday good natured hero that likes to help people, and after that it's... well shit happens), it gets lot better tough. And damn Verita can't come soon enough.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Moogy on March 14, 2010, 03:01:58 pm
If you mean Hoshizora no Memoria, I had that too...but I think it merely had to do with switching time, regional etc. settings over to japanese and getting the latest patch from the official page was crucial. Hum...
Hoshimemo has a nice system but the game's coding is so fucking shitty. When skipping through the common route the game kept crashing on me for doing such absurd actions as mousing over choices and shit.

You'll need to put all of your PC's settings in Japanese and grab the patch to even be able to play it, probably, yeah.

Also Tenshin Ranman is a Kirikiri game so you can simply remove the scripting calling the OP or insert a jump past it yourself. I would recommend figuring out what the hell is causing problems with your PC and video, though, as addressing the symptom and not the cause is never a fantastic idea as far as these things go.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Gore on March 14, 2010, 09:05:42 pm
lol it worked, for about 10 minutes. Then another crash occurred, this time it won't even tell me why. As for Tenshin that's not a bad idea, but I'm only about a week away from finishing my new pc so I might as well just wait for that. I'll try Hoshizora on there too, maybe it'll work then.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: maitrenuage on March 16, 2010, 03:30:48 pm
Finaly, I've completed all the paths in Aoishiro.
It was... magnificent.

Now I need to get the OST.

So... after playing Inganock, Kanon, Kikokugai and Aoishiro, I finaly decided to try... Cosplay fetish academy.
And guess what ? It sucks.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Kiru on March 17, 2010, 02:50:05 am
So... after playing Inganock, Kanon, Kikokugai and Aoishiro, I finaly decided to try... Cosplay fetish academy.
And guess what ? It sucks.
Well, duh.
But then again I can't really blame you, because it's one of the few nukige in English available where the art doesn't suck. (imo)

p.s.: Yes, the Aoishiro OST really is magnificent..
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Gore on March 17, 2010, 03:58:29 pm
I didn't really care for Aoishiro, but I LOVE that piano/violin piece from it(12.Afterglow).
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: KoiNoDensetsu on March 17, 2010, 10:22:08 pm
I found a used copy of Hinatabokko at Sofmap last time I was there, and now I'm sitting down to play it. It's 110% slice of life and super uneventful - certainly no Katahane - but I like all the character voices, and the art is typically lovely Fue work (the main reason to get the game, IMO), so it's sure not a chore to play. Also, alert to TakaJun and other imouto fans: EVERY CHARACTER in this game has a little sister (or two). The OP song is also lovely (made me want a Hakoinu plush).

In short, it's peaceful, cute, and imouto-filled; something I'll probably rank a 6 on VNDB when I'm done.

Just as a warning: It will lose it's moeness after the first route. (Considering that they are ALL THE SAME!)  I will say that HB has good character designs and good vocal songs though.  The ending song is great.  Too bad it wasn't used for a better game... =P

By the way, does Sofmap ship over seas or did you just use one of those importing sites like DankeDanke (http://dankedanke.com/).
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: the_paper on March 20, 2010, 04:56:45 am
Just as a warning: It will lose it's moeness after the first route. (Considering that they are ALL THE SAME!)  I will say that HB has good character designs and good vocal songs though.  The ending song is great.  Too bad it wasn't used for a better game... =P

lol. I've now completed every path except for Shizuma and Suzuno's. Natsuki's was definitely my favorite thus far. I like myself some Mizu (no, I don't have a megane moe complex or anything. stop looking at me like that.) too; too bad she's not gettable. I wonder if she has a route in the fandisc.

Hinatabokko is like Family Project in that the heroine routes only begin at the end of a loooooong trunk which is mostly the same (and fairly uneventful, true). Considering that it was the first game from a new studio and made by of a bunch of people who'd never worked on one before, it's not hard for me to handwave the not-so-great parts and enjoy it. And hey, at least the skip button is nice and fast.

By the way, does Sofmap ship over seas or did you just use one of those importing sites like DankeDanke (http://dankedanke.com/).

I bought in person, from a brick-and-mortar Sofmap. I don't know if their site ships internationally or not (guessing not  :P). My application for their store credit card got turned down, too, but at least I got a 1000-yen discount coupon out of it (which I used on a used first-press copy of Kara no Shoujo, fuck yeah).
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: the_paper on March 20, 2010, 05:19:44 am
OH YEAH and:

I started playing Chaos;Head last week  ;D [skip my post to avoid bad taste]
Whose Eyes Are Those Eyes
Between 1 - 4 AM when my sanity is really low and it's making me a bit sleep deprived on those days...
Whose Eyes Are Those Eyes
[I play VNs slowly, randomly, and intensely, attempting to get into the main character's head each time :)]
Whose Eyes Are Those Eyes
I was playing Chaos;Head last night, and um
Whose Eyes Are Those Eyes
I just reached the scene where the earthquake happened.
Whose Eyes Are Those Eyes
I hate to have bad taste but... the exact time of the quake in game actually lined up with the major earthquake that occured today within minutes... (I checked later today when I read about it... no I wasn't remotely near it)
Whose Eyes Are Those Eyes
My head hurts... I need sleep
I think if I had been anywhere near the actual event I'd have been scarred for life ;p .. if I were able to be

WHOSE EYES ARE THOSE EYES Holy shit.  :o
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: KoiNoDensetsu on March 20, 2010, 02:41:54 pm
Just as a warning: It will lose it's moeness after the first route. (Considering that they are ALL THE SAME!)  I will say that HB has good character designs and good vocal songs though.  The ending song is great.  Too bad it wasn't used for a better game... =P

lol. I've now completed every path except for Shizuma and Suzuno's. Natsuki's was definitely my favorite thus far. I like myself some Mizu (no, I don't have a megane moe complex or anything. stop looking at me like that.) too; too bad she's not gettable. I wonder if she has a route in the fandisc.

Hinatabokko is like Family Project in that the heroine routes only begin at the end of a loooooong trunk which is mostly the same (and fairly uneventful, true). Considering that it was the first game from a new studio and made by of a bunch of people who'd never worked on one before, it's not hard for me to handwave the not-so-great parts and enjoy it. And hey, at least the skip button is nice and fast.

By the way, does Sofmap ship over seas or did you just use one of those importing sites like DankeDanke (http://dankedanke.com/).

I bought in person, from a brick-and-mortar Sofmap. I don't know if their site ships internationally or not (guessing not  :P). My application for their store credit card got turned down, too, but at least I got a 1000-yen discount coupon out of it (which I used on a used first-press copy of Kara no Shoujo, fuck yeah).

Meh, I thought the trunk was at least okay.  But it just really fell apart too much in the heroine routes for me to consider it a good VN.

And I assume you live in Japan then? (or was it just a trip?)  Nice. ;D  I really want to go back.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Moogy on March 20, 2010, 09:56:15 pm
We released the patch for the Houzuki chapter of the Sharin fandisc so if you liked Sharin you should go play that.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: AQZT on March 22, 2010, 09:40:26 pm
All right. The Eien no Aselia patch was just released so as soon as I have the game installed, I'm playing that.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Moriken on March 24, 2010, 02:58:13 pm
So, yesterday I finished Tsukisome no kasa. Which was pretty decent for a game of a new company with a new writer, except that the engine was pretty crappy (auto-mode was unusable because it skipped everything the protagonist said...wtf!).
And now I started Sumaga Special to read when I'm tired thanks to being fully voiced ^.^. More Miyamoto :3
And I thought I'd read more from Nekoneko Soft; I did Scarlett a while ago and that was really good. So I got myself Sanarara...and finished the first of the four short stories in that. I dunno how the other stories will play out, but this was a very very cute and pure love story. However! *rant start* It was the first time I actually was annoyed by the existence of H-content to the point I can't completely ignore that it has H and it does reduce my overall impression. Before the H started, I read straight through and was pretty much involved with the story; it was emotional, really really cute. Last time I had that kind of feeling could have been when watching Hanbun no tsuki ga noboru sora...I'm not sure. In any case, it was a really pure, innocent, romance. But then, they decided to arbitrarily place an H-scene all of a sudden ("hey, we only got 1000 lines left, where's the porn?" - "huh? porn? oh sh...!" *writer starts typing like crazy*) despite everything the plot would suggest. Why thank you! The H-scene did completely destroy the mood, was detrimental to the feel and development of the plot...I usually don't really care about H-scenes. Not that I have anything against 2D-pr0n if placed well (it's even hilarious if you're lucky), but putting some adult content in the epilogue where it's unable to destroy any emotion the writer did try to evoke would really really have been better, and have made more sense dammit >.< *rant over*
Ugh. That was necessary, I'm a bit drunk. xD
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: maitrenuage on March 24, 2010, 03:18:58 pm
Your post makes me lol.
I had the same feeling with VN like Lamune (also from nekoneko soft) and Kanon (except for Makoto's H scene because she was too Auuuu during that scene...  :D... ... ... ok I shut up now).
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: maitrenuage on March 27, 2010, 02:23:19 pm
I've finaly completed all the paths in Cosplay fetish academy.
Oh god how much can I hate harem endings...

Now it's time to play Edleweiss + Edleweiss fantasia.
I hope it will be as funny as Kirakira.
edit : ok it is.I can tell after only 30 min :)

But guys... I can't follow up with all those releases :)
Eien no Aselia and the fandisk of Sharin no Kuni are out, Ef should and Kara no Shoujo should come out in a few days and I still have to try Clannad, Soul Link, Da Capo, Suika, Sono Hanabira, ...
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Mohlt on March 27, 2010, 04:26:35 pm
Aselia the Eternal... A great game if you play it once, quite annoying if more (same battles for every route). They could've added "skip battle" option or something.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Kiru on March 27, 2010, 05:27:17 pm
Aselia the Eternal... A great game if you play it once, quite annoying if more (same battles for every route). They could've added "skip battle" option or something.

But you still have two more difficulties(which expand the level-cap) and the "new game+".

I think this is enough. With "new game+" most battles will be far to easy anyway, if you choose the normal difficulty again. :)


I've really much more problems with the voice-acting. The japanese-stuff ist ok, but the "other" stuff not.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: AQZT on March 29, 2010, 12:14:25 am
Aselia the Eternal... A great game if you play it once, quite annoying if more (same battles for every route). They could've added "skip battle" option or something.
That's odd. I actually find the battles to be the best part of the game. The gameplay is so... addicting...
The only problem with the gameplay is the boss fights, which are a) anticlimactic and b) way too easy (I mean, seriously, I beat The second-to-last boss (Grzhbeva [Name ROT13'd for spoiler]) in ONE BLOW...
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Mohlt on March 29, 2010, 06:13:27 am
That's odd. I actually find the battles to be the best part of the game. The gameplay is so... addicting...

Gameplay was fun at first, but it's too simple and repetitive(new game+) to hook me up for a longer period of time.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Metarail on March 29, 2010, 09:20:17 am
Started playing black-cycs Cthulhu as it's premise intrigued me a bit. Didn't have that much of special exceptations about it altough I did enjoy black-cycs Extravaganza when I read it sometime ago. But so far my opinion is kinda mixed, as it has some major flaws, like the main scenario being way too short and it feels like it doesn't take full-use of it's possibilities, music being bit kinda avarage and sometimes not fitting to scenes, and being kinda cliched at points. Well it isn't completely bad tough, altough the scenario isn't taken full-advantage of and it's main premise is kinda cliched, it is still intriguing enough to keep reading to find what the hell is happening. This coupled with the fact it has really fast pace and maybe because it's so short, it doesn't get boring, which is good thing to me (one of the main reasons why I drop something is when it gets boring or starts to drag too much). Also I kinda like how there is bit of symbolic relationship with the people who are lovecrafts and cthulhuses to the powers they have. Then there's that it subtly makes fun of itself sometimes and other small things. At this point I can say atleast that it won't end up being anykind of masterpiece or something like that, but it still is good read to some, atleast for me there is something that keeps me reading it that I can't properly grasp and it's somewhat "fun" to read for some weird reason (godforbid me calling anything from black-cyc "fun"). Ofcourse it's not for everone as it's black-cyc after all. Maybe I'll ramble some more when I finish it, but this is this for now.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: the_paper on April 01, 2010, 08:31:27 am
Kara no Shoujo should come out in a few days

Sorry, but I doubt it. At least you have all those other games to play in the meantime. Whether the editing patch will be publically available or not is one thing, but there will be no official release for at least a few months. The TRANSLATION is done, yes, but the hacking/insertion is only now taking place, editing is at 43%, and QC hasn't even started yet.

Besides, we still have to work on the new yuri routes now that they're out. See the project wiki (http://www.tsukuru.info/tlwiki/index.php?title=Kara_no_Shoujo) for further info.

(Also, you should go to the poll and vote for Caucasus, or at least Carnival, as Team Ero-Gay's next project, because if Comyu wins I'm not working on it.)
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Balcerzak on April 01, 2010, 10:31:37 am
In the interest of keeping you on the team, I voted Carnival.  (I didn't know anything about Caucasus, sorry.)

That said, my current VN status is the story of continually expanding backlog.  The next "I'm still trying to play some of these in Japanese" game will eventually be going back and revisiting Atlach=Nacha (which I haven't really touched since my poll campaign for it fell through), and the next actually released project will probably be Symphonic Rain.

For now, beta-testing projects that I'm involved with is taking priority, though.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: maitrenuage on April 01, 2010, 01:27:35 pm
I voted for Carnival (I hope it's not a joke... but... yeah how could it not be :D)

Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Moogy on April 01, 2010, 06:03:07 pm
A friend of mine roped me into playing the Hoshizora no Memoria fandisc as soon as I finished the main game... Though it's more of a sequel so I guess it's fine.

I want to finish some of my other games though!
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Shikiller on April 01, 2010, 08:53:35 pm
I'm playing Narcissu 2nd, is quite good, especially the music. ;_;
I'm also playing Lisel's route in Synphonic Rain. Grave Cesarini makes me rage so fucking hard. Fuck!
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: the_paper on April 01, 2010, 10:54:55 pm
In case anyone else is curious about Caucasus, here are links to its official site (http://www.gungnir.co.jp/innocentgrey/products/pro_caucasus/cc_index.html), VNDB page (http://vndb.org/v2626), Getchu page (http://www.getchu.com/soft.phtml?id=644305), and a good review/overview by Accany (http://accany.wordpress.com/2009/12/29/%E3%82%AF%E3%83%AD%E3%82%A6%E3%82%AB%E3%82%B7%E3%82%B9-%E4%B8%83%E6%86%91%E3%82%AD%E3%83%8E%E8%B4%84-review/) (beware of mild spoilers).

Basically, it's a closed-circle detective game with typically lovely Suenaga Miki art and fantastic music/voices. It's a multi-route mystery, so you basically have to finish every route to get the scope of the story, but it's a really intricate and well-paced one IMO, even though the game takes place in just three days. There is some rape and nastiness, so be warned. Gore too, but KnS should prepare you to handle that (though Caucasus has more headless bodies and such).

Carnival is also great (written by the SWAN SONG/KiraKira scenario writer), but I'm rooting for Caucasus just because it's good and yet undeservedly obscure in the English community ATM.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Moriken on April 02, 2010, 04:24:25 am
A friend of mine roped me into playing the Hoshizora no Memoria fandisc as soon as I finished the main game... Though it's more of a sequel so I guess it's fine.

I want to finish some of my other games though!

I don't know, the after-stories bored the hell outta me even though I liked the main game. Typical fandisc, lacking in dramatic tension.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: beliar on April 02, 2010, 05:01:10 am
Voted Caucasus, because Gore+Lots of H=WIN! ;D
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: maitrenuage on April 02, 2010, 09:56:20 am
Wait... Narcissu 2 and the poll were not a joke ?
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Kiru on April 02, 2010, 10:24:25 am
Wait... Narcissu 2 and the poll were not a joke ?

The nice thing about April Fool is that it can be used in two ways:
a) Trying to fool people who have forgotten that it's April first
b) Trying to fool people who know it's April first
:)
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Gore on April 03, 2010, 11:15:04 am
I *THINK* I'm playing Baldr Sky 2, I honestly don't know. It says I'm on Baldr 2, but I'm on Chapter 6 of Rain right now so...yeah I really don't know what the fuck I'm doing. There were no different options so far, this shit needs to branch soon or I'm going to quit.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Metarail on April 03, 2010, 01:38:07 pm
I *THINK* I'm playing Baldr Sky 2, I honestly don't know. It says I'm on Baldr 2, but I'm on Chapter 6 of Rain right now so...yeah I really don't know what the fuck I'm doing. There were no different options so far, this shit needs to branch soon or I'm going to quit.

You are doing something wrong then. First dive2 route is Aki and her route branches of somewhere around chapter 5/6 of chinatsus route. Then Makoto and Sora routes branch pretty much right from the start, once they are unlocked ofcourse.

edit: And all dive1 choices should be available right from the start if you have dive2 installed on dive1 (assuming you have finished all routes of dive1 too). Don't really know how it works if you have only dive2 installed tough or both newly installed.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Gore on April 03, 2010, 02:18:34 pm
Yeah I just figured out what's wrong, even though I imported everything from Dive1, it for some reason thinks I haven't played the game. It won't give me any choices to even enter Chinatsu's route, let alone Aki's.

Downloading Saves from Sagaoz also did nothing except fill out the CG/Scene folder, this fucking thing wants me to skip through everything and do all the battles over again. I nowhere near have the patience for that.

EDIT: Nm I was trying something out of curiosity as I made that post, I had a save at Chinatsu's epilogue, after loading and skipping through it I now have the "Rain..." choice at the very beginning.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Metarail on April 04, 2010, 03:28:32 am
Finished Cthulhu completely, and overall impression is still bit of mixed. It had it's good points and bad points. But overally I really liked it due to enjoyment factor as there wes something that "clicked" with me which doesn't really happen often for stuff that I read, altough many probably won't share this opinion. If I'd have to describe it in one sentence: It had great potential as the setting overally was interesting, but it didn't properly use it's all possibilities it offered and was way too short for it's own good and ended up being bit cliched. Nevertheless it's good read for some and doesn't take too long. Also it isn't story that explains everything that happens, altough at surface it seems that the probably canon ending resolves basically everything, but if you start to think about it there's few too many inconsistances and unexplained things if you take that ending as it is and I doubt writers would leave that big plot holes there. It probably would help if I would know more about Cthulhu/Lovecraft lore, as it might explain something that I didn't understand, but yeah don't know about it. Still overall impression about it was postive, altough it wasn't as good as it could have been.

As for next thing I'm going to read, needing something more light hearted, maybe going to check Parfait out. Altough Subarashiki Hibi has kinda caught my eye too, it isn't light hearted tough, but I doubt I would manage to finish it before Ikusa Megami Verita comes, which is on top of my priority list right now.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: KoiNoDensetsu on April 05, 2010, 04:52:21 pm
Playing Narcissu 2nd Side slowly.  Bleh, it's okay.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Gore on April 05, 2010, 08:22:55 pm
Anyone ever played any VN's that scared them or freaked them out at all?

For me I've only ever encountered this on:

Higurashi - Onikakushi Chapter <--This is the major one, was one of the best things I've played honestly. It's too bad I didn't care for the rest of the game.
Umineko - Chapter 1
3Days - Just a bit at the prologue, nothing more though.

It's the "not knowing" factor or "mystery" that seems to get me and I simply can't find any that work for me. Apparently Ryukishi's writing is great for me until he enters that magical realm shit that everyone but me seems to love.
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Post by: X-Calibar on April 05, 2010, 10:45:34 pm
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Anyone ever played any VN's that scared them or freaked them out at all?
Tsukihime...  Near the end of the game I kept getting a certain death scene; and you'd hear that spooky music accompanied with the great atmosphere I started associating it with death!  So each time that place popped up with that music I was like ... not again ...
It started to become spooky/slightly scary :P

Phantom of Inferno freaked me out, it was the first VN I had played.  I got to the end of chapter 1, and the player... froze... I thought I had gotten a bad ending, and that was it!  I was so impressed and horrified with the bad ending and how things turned out.. that I attacked my computer.  [since then I was hooked!]  (Too bad that wasn't just a bad ending lol it was epic.)

Chaos;Head ... had some spooky moments.  I don't know if I'd say scary; but there was definite apprehension going on...  Great delusion music, even if I wasn't scared per say, it made me feel a little crazy.  Gradually Panic needed to be better though...  It held back the possibly really scary scenes; it was a little too cheesy :P.  Oh... there was one part of Chaos;Head that freaked me out.  Confused the heck out of me, and then the game crashed to top it off... Ah and the part where a character was in underwear... when they weren't supposed to be... kinda made me google eye for a second.

I guess in Utawarerumono that certain scene with Aruruw you could say, freaked me out.  Not scary, but just unhinged.

And... I'm deciding what to play now!
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Metarail on April 06, 2010, 12:39:45 am
Anyone ever played any VN's that scared them or freaked them out at all?

There hasn't been that many VNs able to scare/freak/creep/spook me out, but it does happen and in some places that I personaly don't except that much, so it's nice feeling when it happens, but some that have to do it for me:

Extravaganza creeped me pretty well and had some scary moments too. The twisted creepy world it managed to create and atmosphere were great in it. And I guess there were few moments in Cthulhu that creeped me out too a bit, but it was pretty mild compared to Extravaganza.

Chaos;Head managed to creep the hell out of me sometimes and then there was that hand scene.... One of the reason why I like C;H so much is these feelings that it managed to create in me.

I guess in Baldr Sky managed to creep me out a bit or made me unsettled in few places, especialy the few first chapters of Sora's route, that sense of solitude and isolation was quite powerfull which caused creepy feelings, in my opinion. (put that in white just in case because it might be a minor spoiler to some)

In Ever17 there few places that creeped me, but nothing too strong.

One place that I really didn't really except to run too many creepy elements, but Ikusa Megami Zero had some creepy moments here and there that managed to create unsettling feelings, Omal mountain and Aidos being the main causes.

Oh yeah, almost forgot. Muv-Luv Alternative managed to scare the crap out of me with THAT scene, that was even when it was spoiled for me, but didn't know actualy when it would happen so yeah... I guess that other scene too was quite shocker for me.

I'm pretty sure there might been something else too, but can't remember it for now.
On releted note some supposedly scary VNs that didn't cause anything in me were Saya no Uta and Umineko (maybe bit of exception was ep1). They had scary elements but they still didn't effect me in any real way, maybe they were just too over the top or something.
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Post by: Sheeta on April 06, 2010, 01:03:25 am
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Anyone ever played any VN's that scared them or freaked them out at all?

Umineko Episode 2, with the flashing teeth CG. Scared the shit out of me.

Tsukihime I don't actually find that scary. Playing it on and off since October might have something to do with it... though the fight against that guy with the animals whose name I can't spell had its moments.

In fact, Tsukihime gives me a headache whenever I play it. Why? Because Shiki has so many damn headaches :/ So whenever he gets one, I get one too. My poor head.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: the_paper on April 06, 2010, 05:40:07 am
That one sprite of CRAZY!Kinzo with the huge doped-up eyes probably scared me more than anything else in Umineko so far. Ending of Chapter 2 was pretty horrific on a similar level, but augh, the first time I saw that Kinzo >_< I think I literally yelled out "Oh god, get it off the screen!"

Anyone play to the end of the one Witch-Hunt patch for midway through Episode 4, where there were three options and one of them lead you to a slooooowwwww zoom in on CRAZY!KINZO'S FACE?

That shit kind of ruined me night. o.o
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: maitrenuage on April 06, 2010, 11:27:47 am
Don't forget Saya no Uta.
Just thinking about how I would react if I saw the world as Fuminori did is enough to creep me.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Sirf*palot on April 06, 2010, 01:10:36 pm
On second play through of EnA (on Kyouko/Tokomi) Routes. I'm also on ch. 1 of umineko..
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Gore on April 06, 2010, 09:30:23 pm
Oh right how the hell did I forget Chaos;Head, that was an amazing game and managed to freak me out quite a few times. I hated the protag but I did love that game as a whole.

Also Metarail you pretty much said what I was expecting outta the new Black Cyc game lol. If they are good at one thing, it's not using their characters/settings properly. Extravaganza they did a good job with, but the others....

I do still need to try Ctuhulu though, but is it ALL tentacles? I'm not a tentacle fan unless it's gore related.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Metarail on April 07, 2010, 12:46:52 am
I do still need to try Ctuhulu though, but is it ALL tentacles? I'm not a tentacle fan unless it's gore related.
Well altough most ero-scenes are tentacle related, there are several other type scenes too. And cthulhu was pretty mild on gore too. But I'd still say it's worth checking if it interests you as it's so damn short so it doesn't take that long even to get the all/true endings. each route maybe takes about as much as time as planetarian did or even less. And for me atleast the main point that kinda drew me in it after I started reading it was how there was alot of stuff you kinda caught by "reading between the lines" and the fact that everything was not outright stated but given enough information to form your own theories. Overally Cthulhu is probably one of the most polarizing thing that I have ever read, I can easily see why people would call it trash, but then again there are people who I can see liking it for what it is (like me).
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Gore on April 07, 2010, 02:54:27 am
Overally Cthulhu is probably one of the most polarizing thing that I have ever read, I can easily see why people would call it trash, but then again there are people who I can see liking it for what it is (like me).

This sounds exactly like Mugen Kairou. I wonder if it was written by the same person.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Metarail on April 07, 2010, 03:44:30 am
Overally Cthulhu is probably one of the most polarizing thing that I have ever read, I can easily see why people would call it trash, but then again there are people who I can see liking it for what it is (like me).

This sounds exactly like Mugen Kairou. I wonder if it was written by the same person.
Well actualy I think they were written by the same guy, or atleast he helped to write it. Haven't played mugen kairou tough, so can't comment on similarities (will play it some day tough). But atleast haven't heard about any lenght problems from mugen kairou, as that is one of the biggest problems with cthulhu. now that I think about it, cthulhu might been released bit unifinished, as there were few things that bugged me and that would explain them rather easily.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Mohlt on April 07, 2010, 11:38:31 am
To Heart 2 Xrated, as expected, a lame school-love story.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Moriken on April 07, 2010, 11:59:09 am
Overally Cthulhu is probably one of the most polarizing thing that I have ever read, I can easily see why people would call it trash, but then again there are people who I can see liking it for what it is (like me).

This sounds exactly like Mugen Kairou. I wonder if it was written by the same person.
Well actualy I think they were written by the same guy, or atleast he helped to write it. Haven't played mugen kairou tough, so can't comment on similarities (will play it some day tough). But atleast haven't heard about any lenght problems from mugen kairou, as that is one of the biggest problems with cthulhu. now that I think about it, cthulhu might been released bit unifinished, as there were few things that bugged me and that would explain them rather easily.

Cthulhu was written by two guys, one of them (Itô Hiro if I chose the right reading for the last name, 伊藤ヒロ) co-wrote the first Mugen Kairo with 4 others and wrote Mugen Kairo 2 single-handedly...at least that's what erogamescape says. So there definitely should be a relation.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: yimw on April 08, 2010, 08:46:32 pm
I think the only VN that's scared me was Higurashi's Watanagashi chapter. I remember I stayed up until like 4 in the morning to finish it and couldn't sleep afterwards.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: maitrenuage on April 11, 2010, 04:00:55 am
I'm done with Edelweiss and Eien Phantasia (Poko-channnnn !!!! Kawaï !!!! ... lol sorry  :-X)

It's time to cry now -> Narcissu 2 !
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Moogy on April 12, 2010, 05:41:14 pm
Playing SubaHibi. Yuki is the best protag
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Post by: the_paper on April 14, 2010, 03:04:19 am
Oh shit, Jun's backstory in Family Project is the same plot as [rot13'd!] Cerpvbhf.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: maitrenuage on April 14, 2010, 02:52:26 pm
Narcissu 2 was not as bawwwwing as Narcissu 1 but t was good (oh god, the loli's voice was tear jerking  :'( )

Now I'm ready for the >50H of Clannad.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: KoiNoDensetsu on April 14, 2010, 10:57:31 pm
Playing Narcissu 2nd Side and Muv-Luv.

I'm liking 2nd Side more than the first Narcissu.  Setsumi's voice is still annoying though...

Muv-Luv is really good.  For a moege.  I expected it to be like the first chapter of KGNE - mostly moe but with some drama - since everyone says it's the set up for Alternative, but nope, it's just moe.  Still really fun though.  It reminds me of Kanon and ONE. (minus the "deep" scenes at the beginning to make it seem like Kanon will be more than a moefest)  I actually am liking what I've played of Muv-Luv more than Kanon.  The characters are blatant stereotypes, but the events are just more interesting/funny than in Kanon.  So yeah, I'm enjoying EX so far.  Nothing amazing, but a fun moege.
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Post by: Ixrec on April 15, 2010, 12:20:07 am
Regarding MLE, the drama comes later. Pretty much all of the good comedy stuff is in the first quarter of it.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Mohlt on April 15, 2010, 10:31:28 am
Just finished Muv Luv E(Sumika & Meiya)... I wasn't expecting much from it, but MLE almost failed even that expectation. Likable characters, bit of humor and Yuuko-sensei were life-savers.

P.S I hope Ayamine's path isn't worse than main ones.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Ixrec on April 15, 2010, 01:57:45 pm
P.S I hope Ayamine's path isn't worse than main ones.

The side routes are crap. Ayamine's is the best of the three, but that isn't saying much.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Shikiller on April 15, 2010, 07:07:05 pm
P.S I hope Ayamine's path isn't worse than main ones.

HAHAHAHA
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Sheeta on April 15, 2010, 07:35:59 pm
P.S I hope Ayamine's path isn't worse than main ones.

I hope you like plot holes.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Ixrec on April 16, 2010, 11:53:20 am
Since Koi probably cares, I finished a route of KimiNozo last night. Got Mitsuki's good end (I like getting what I aim for). Review may not happen soon since I wanna try for the other main heroine routes and get some of the bad endings too.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: KoiNoDensetsu on April 16, 2010, 03:13:36 pm
Since Koi probably cares, I finished a route of KimiNozo last night. Got Mitsuki's good end (I like getting what I aim for). Review may not happen soon since I wanna try for the other main heroine routes and get some of the bad endings too.

Ahh, you played the worst path first!! :'(
Lol but how do you like it?  Aren't the characters moe?? ;D

On a side note, everyone plays visual novels faster than me...  KGNE is so long that I wouldn't be able to play it in-between TL group work.

So yeah, still on Muv-Luv.  About halfway, I think.  It continues to be funny but without any real plot.  I do hate the (few) sexist/homophobic jokes though... >_> (then again, that's society for you)

But it makes me hungry. :o  Sumika makes Takeru such delicious oishimono!  It made me hungry when I was playing it the other day, so I decided to make an omelet.  KoiNoDensetsu accidentally used olive oil and it turned out disgusting. :'(
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Ixrec on April 16, 2010, 05:45:53 pm
The prejudiced jokes you refer to didn't bother me at all. Oddly enough, what did bother me was that every single heroine was inexplicably awesome at cooking (except the one who didn't need to be) and that the biggest determinant of whose route you get is whose bentou you choose to eat.

Best part is it wasn't just me:
<000002ab> 【Takeru】「But Meiya's never done any cooking...\p...\p」\e
<000002ad> 【Tsukuyomi】「Yes,\p something cannot come from nothing.」\e
<000002ae> 【Takeru】「Then...\p...\pwhy didn't you stop her? What if she'd hurt herself in one of those explosions...\p...\p?」\e
<000002b0> 【Tsukuyomi】「Meiya-sama is the same as everyone else.」\e
<000002b1> 【Takeru】「...\p...\peh?」\e
<000002b3> 【Tsukuyomi】「Meiya-sama is also...\p...\pa girl.」\e
<0000039a> 【Tsukuyomi】「Can you understand her feelings?」\e //I'm a girl~ My greatest happiness comes from cooking dinner for my husband~ I'm so glad society taught me that~ - Sheeta
Heh.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Shikiller on April 16, 2010, 09:39:12 pm
the bentous aren't that decisive , you can choose Sumika's lunches and still enter Meiya's route, I know I did, just choose everything else Meiya related.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Ixrec on April 16, 2010, 09:56:21 pm
the bentous aren't that decisive , you can choose Sumika's lunches and still enter Meiya's route, I know I did, just choose everything else Meiya related.

lol, didn't think so, but it's more about the subliminal messages.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Kiru on April 17, 2010, 02:34:58 am
the bentous aren't that decisive , you can choose Sumika's lunches and still enter Meiya's route, I know I did, just choose everything else Meiya related.

lol, didn't think so, but it's more about the subliminal messages.

Well that would be at least somewhat understandable. (The way to a man's heart is through his stomach... makes it kinda trashy) This one is imo worse:

Idiot friend: Hey pal, which of the girls do you actually like most? It's osananajimi, right?
Choice osananajimi, "tomboy", shy megane, genki sis or kuudere
Enter route...

Especially great if you weren't exactly nice to the girl you choose there.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: KoiNoDensetsu on April 17, 2010, 11:55:10 am
The prejudiced jokes you refer to didn't bother me at all. Oddly enough, what did bother me was that every single heroine was inexplicably awesome at cooking (except the one who didn't need to be) and that the biggest determinant of whose route you get is whose bentou you choose to eat.

Best part is it wasn't just me:
<000002ab> 【Takeru】「But Meiya's never done any cooking...\p...\p」\e
<000002ad> 【Tsukuyomi】「Yes,\p something cannot come from nothing.」\e
<000002ae> 【Takeru】「Then...\p...\pwhy didn't you stop her? What if she'd hurt herself in one of those explosions...\p...\p?」\e
<000002b0> 【Tsukuyomi】「Meiya-sama is the same as everyone else.」\e
<000002b1> 【Takeru】「...\p...\peh?」\e
<000002b3> 【Tsukuyomi】「Meiya-sama is also...\p...\pa girl.」\e
<0000039a> 【Tsukuyomi】「Can you understand her feelings?」\e //I'm a girl~ My greatest happiness comes from cooking dinner for my husband~ I'm so glad society taught me that~ - Sheeta
Heh.

LOL the entire MuvLuv cast should just drop out and become master chefs.  They would give Cooking Mama a run for her money.

Anyway, finally got to the scene where Akane is introduced.  Bleh, she feels a little... different than she did in the game. (then again, I expected the KGNE characters to be different in ML)  She also looks like an alien, similar to that of Meiya.  I'm serious, Meiya must be an alien or something with those eyes of her's...  Or a giant robot.  I wonder if there is a scene where you get to have an epic fight INSIDE MEIYA??!?!
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Moogy on April 17, 2010, 04:34:32 pm
You are actually correct in that statement since most of the characters in Muv-Luv have designs based on famous real/super robots.

Which is why most of the character designs (pretty much everyone except Sumika, in fact) are pretty bad, as far as I'm concerned. The art itself isn't too great either.

Fortunately, the mecha have fucking excellent designs courtesy of Yoshinari and all of the art with them is top-notch as well.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Ixrec on April 17, 2010, 07:28:26 pm
You are actually correct in that statement since most of the characters in Muv-Luv have designs based on famous real/super robots.

*wants details*
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: KoiNoDensetsu on April 18, 2010, 07:37:51 pm
You are actually correct in that statement since most of the characters in Muv-Luv have designs based on famous real/super robots.

*wants details*

*watashi mo*
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: izmosmolnar on April 18, 2010, 08:59:07 pm
I'm playing Kara no Shoujo. On its fifth chapter. It's pretty interesting but the protag is just too serious in my opinion. The reason I liked Kenno Yukihiro's Detective eroges that I was entertained by the decent humor, and felt compelled to check every option what they do, on the other hand here I don't feel the same way. The only humor is from the Coroner heroine (she's pretty awesome actually), and the really genki girl. The story is pretty decent though.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Metarail on April 23, 2010, 06:46:57 am
Just started Ikusa Megami Verita, in the end I didn't play genrin series before this, so I wonder how much of stuff I'll miss from that direction. Expectations are quite high with Verita, but I'll doubt it will disapoint me. Reporting back when I get to play it more.

Also FUCK YEAH FOR BALDR SKY FANDISK.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: KoiNoDensetsu on April 24, 2010, 06:52:59 pm
Finished Narcissu 2nd Side.

Okay game.  Better than N1, at least.  I actually liked Muv-Luv more.
I guess my problem with the entire series is that it takes itself too seriously.
Prime example (not my words; post I found on a forum):

Quote from: mikey
With Narcissu 2, I have a problem, and it appears very early - I noticed it in the demo and even asked whether it was indeed correctly translated - anyway, it's no spoiler, so - at the beginning, a girl describes her situation, and goes on to say that her little hands look so and so. (or a similar phrase)

My problem is with saying "my little hands". No child refers to their hands as little, because they are just "hands" to them. You do this as a third person, to perhaps invoke compassion, or a sense of wanting to protect the child - and a third person describing someone else's hands as little would be fine.

But it's her own words, and for me, this is the equivalent of breaking the 4th wall - I can instantly feel the intention of the writer to try to get me to feel some sort of compassion for the character. The intention to get compassion out of me is fine, but this way is somehow not in my accepted writing codex. It's one of those little things that can break everything - like when for some people it's very important to call before visiting. Or to say thank you after a dinner. It's not the end of the world if you don't, but it feels rude, insulting, if you're valuing those particular things. And I have had this literary nitpick since I was a teenager (a few short stories I read at that time).

The entire story goes like this: "Ah, I wonder what it is like to die.  I wonder if I am being kind or cruel by not telling okaasan I kirai ポタト...  Does God exist? -kids acting older than they their age-"
And I also found it kind of ridiculous how Himeko dragged along a kid with her to a mountain to kill herself when she could have just done it some other way.  I'm sorry, but people that want to kill themselves (especially people who have Incurable Illnesses) won't spend hours doing something hard to commit suicide (other than to make things more dramatic).  If they wanted to die, they would just do something like throw themselves in front of a train or cut their wrist.
Also, what was with Setsumi's mom?  I know she wanted Setsumi to have a friend, but I don't think most parents would agree for their kid to stay over night with an older person they had never met, even in a safe country like Japan.

But it was still an O.K. VN.  Just overrated. (I REALLY need to write a parody of the Naricissu series ^_^)
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Moogy on April 24, 2010, 07:19:38 pm
Probably not a good idea to butt one's preconceived notions of how English writing should be phrased up against Japanese writing. I have no idea what the actual context in the game is, but it's quite possible that it reads naturally in Japanese.

This is why reviewing translated VNs is probably an ultimately futile endeavor, since they're too far from the originals for any sort of criticism to be meaningful.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: KoiNoDensetsu on April 24, 2010, 08:52:19 pm
Well, the guy did apparently ask if it was translated correctly, and it was.
But I don't consider N2 to be sub-par simply because of that one instance.  It was how the characters acted and the story in general.  While I doubt my opinion would have been much different if I had played it in Japanese (considering Ever17 had a fairly mediocre translation and is still my favorite VN - even compared to games with great translations like YMK), this is just my opinion for the English version.  I'm not trying to rate the Japanese N2.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Moogy on April 25, 2010, 05:25:54 pm
Yumemiru Kusuri's translation is not good. It's simply an excellent example of covering up countless translation mistakes with grammatically sound English and "funny" dialogue.

MG's translations are on the whole much better than JAST/PP/etc.'s, but they suffer from lackluster English writing skills on the part of the translators.

Everything Hirameki put out was just awful shit, with mistranslated lines everywhere and typos in every sentence.

As far as commercial VN translations go, I think Demonbane is pretty much going to set the standard in that regard. Makoto's translations are excellent and the other main translator working on it is no slouch either.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: maitrenuage on April 27, 2010, 02:01:30 pm
I'm playing Clannad and it sure is long...
But even if I already know the story (-> Anime), I'm not bored at all.

PS : Key sucks at drawing heads in profile  ;D
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: yimw on April 27, 2010, 02:55:46 pm
I also enjoyed Narcissu 2 more than the first one. It didn't suffer as much from the "trying too hard to be sad" feeling I got from the first game. N2 still felt rather... empty I guess? Like I read it and it was over and that was it. Even though it wasn't bad there wasn't much substance to it and it didn't leave any impact. That's pretty much how I felt about Narcissu too.

Related to both that and the original topic of the thread I recently finished Sanarara. I liked Kataoka Tomo's story in that a lot more than Naricissu 1 or 2.

Right now I'm playing A Profile but lately school hasn't left me much time for eroge.

This is why reviewing translated VNs is probably an ultimately futile endeavor, since they're too far from the originals for any sort of criticism to be meaningful.
People review translated media all the time and even literary criticism is often written based on translated versions of literature. Of course those translations are generally going to better than what you usually find with translated VNs but I still don't think it's impossible to judge something just because it's a translation. It definitely should be kept in mind that you're not reading the original text though.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: KoiNoDensetsu on April 27, 2010, 06:37:35 pm
Yumemiru Kusuri's translation is not good. It's simply an excellent example of covering up countless translation mistakes with grammatically sound English and "funny" dialogue.

MG's translations are on the whole much better than JAST/PP/etc.'s, but they suffer from lackluster English writing skills on the part of the translators.

Everything Hirameki put out was just awful shit, with mistranslated lines everywhere and typos in every sentence.

As far as commercial VN translations go, I think Demonbane is pretty much going to set the standard in that regard. Makoto's translations are excellent and the other main translator working on it is no slouch either.

Even if YMK "adapted" a few lines, I would still consider it to be a better translation than Ever17 and other "literal" Engrish translations.

But I disgress.  yimw basically stated everything I wanted to say.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: izmosmolnar on April 28, 2010, 01:43:20 am
Finished Kara no Shoujo few days ago, was honestly really excellent, and it's the second prettiest game I can think of right now (after Asuseka). I wouldn't recommend it to the weak of heart, the game is frighteningly repulsing at places, and not just the cgs with full of gore, (but like see this dialogue (http://p.blicky.net/3dyxx), I was close to vomiting, and this goddamn game justifies it in a way that you can't really say the culprit was all that unreasonable).
Detective parts were pretty damn awesome, and the only thing which felt kinda bothersome was the map movement thing (IMO there's a bit too much of those). And the ending is so sad :( . So yeah it was really great. My only complain was that the protag was kinda bland, and I feel the game could have been improved during the first parts (like up to solving the first case) if he'd have been more entertaining. Also the climax of the game was a bit hard to follow with all the secret names, schemes, and relations. I rated it with 91/100 on EGS in the end.

Guess I'll go back to Ayakashibito now.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Kiru on April 28, 2010, 02:59:00 am
Finished Kara no Shoujo few days ago, was honestly really excellent, and it's the second prettiest game I can think of right now (after Asuseka). I wouldn't recommend it to the weak of heart, the game is frighteningly repulsing at places, and not just the cgs with full of gore, (but like see this dialogue (http://p.blicky.net/3dyxx), I was close to vomiting, and this goddamn game justifies it in a way that you can't really say the culprit was all that unreasonable).
Detective parts were pretty damn awesome, and the only thing which felt kinda bothersome was the map movement thing (IMO there's a bit too much of those). And the ending is so sad :( . So yeah it was really great. My only complain was that the protag was kinda bland, and I feel the game could have been improved during the first parts (like up to solving the first case) if he'd have been more entertaining. Also the climax of the game was a bit hard to follow with all the secret names, schemes, and relations. I rated it with 91/100 on EGS in the end.

Sounds great. I don't really need the gore, but I (at least hope I) don't mind it either.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Sirf*palot on April 28, 2010, 10:28:50 am
I'm almost done w. Suika, I just hate the font mangagamer uses. It hurts my eyes. ARGHH
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Metarail on April 28, 2010, 11:01:42 am
Haven't had as much of time as I would have liked to play IM Verita due to exams. Currently I am at chapter 6 of "dark" route in Verita, don't know how I ended up in that route as I was aiming for "neutral"/true route, maybe that last choice I made wasn't for the best. But anyway, it has been pretty damn great in my opinion so far. And if it continues being like this it will become my second favorite VN after Baldr Sky. There really isn't anything bad to say about Verita, characters and plot are great, graphics are beatifull and musics are good. The gameplay portions are pretty good too, as you would except from Eushully, and heck it's actually bit of challenging at points (this makes me happy, as I like challenge), which happens rarely these days for me, for complete RPG-newbs in that sense it could be quite hard at some points without grinding, but with append-disk there is bonus dungeon which gives pretty good items for beginners to balance it out.

But I can already say that for anyone who likes fantasy stories owes themselves to read Ikusa Megami Verita at somepoint, as It's probably the best that it's genre offers in this medium.


(http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/2968/cg000037.jpg) (http://img227.imageshack.us/i/cg000037.jpg/)
Also Serika and Loui are both quite interesting protagonists, and have become some of my favorite protagonists all-around in VNs. Especially Serika, who is probably among my top 3 VN/Eroge protagonists nowdays.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Kyon_Geass on April 28, 2010, 11:49:50 am
(i planned to do this post two days ago but was lazy, finded the time to do it and well, here i go)
Because of many reasons (from the laptop going on comma for 2 weeks 1 month ago until it revived, to the exams i had last week), i havent been able to play much lately, but i atleast finished all the Takashi rutes of Oretachi ni Tsubasa wa nai (Oretsuba for short, also, the only character of Oretsuba with more than one ending it seems) It was so good, i would put it C+C level, even in the sense that the playing experience can go to 5 if you didnt like the characters and quit walf-way (something hard to think once you enter the night chapter, as it so so cool, i understand people like it more than the first two chapters.)

To keep the story short, there are three main characters at the beginning, Haneda Takashi, a student that calls himself the "reincarnation" of the "Holy Knight Hawk", Chitose Shusuke, a half-time worker in Alexander and one magazine company, and Hayato Narita, a guy how does half-time work and goes around the city saying he is "hardboiled"(hardboiled (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hardboiled)?) in personality (well, not sure how to explain him well, as that didnt sound as cool as he really is). They all share something in commun, but that is kept secret until later, more main characters appear later, but i wont spoil anything about them nor anything else about the story.

Something interesting is the develpopment of all the characters, and the fact that the story takes place in ALL the city, not just the school or the working place, making the story big, and a big cast, with many original characters, without a doubt, i recommend anyone to play it.

I just entered Chitose's route, and liking it so far
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Moogy on April 29, 2010, 05:34:00 pm
Finished SubaHibi the other day. Earlier in this same thread I said that I could never see myself giving anything higher than a 99. Well, looks like I lied, because SubaHibi gets a perfect 100/100 from me. If you can read Japanese, play this shit. If you can't, then learn Japanese and then play this shit.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: maitrenuage on May 01, 2010, 03:19:28 pm
Finished Love love H maid
http://vndb.org/v3632 (it's translated)

I wanted to take a break because Clannad is super long but... it seems it was a short break (20 to complete the game)/
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Metarail on May 05, 2010, 01:52:03 am
Finished the true route of Ikusa Megami Verita, still need to do "light" route. But have to say my it become second favorite eroge of mine after Baldr Sky. There really isn't big problems with it, maybe they could have used more Loui perspective on some ocassions and it didn't have nearly enough of Naberius, Rita, Lifia and Sully. But those are just some small nipicks. And Serika has become my favorite eroge protagonist, overally Serikas story is pretty sad and full of hardships,  but how he faces with reality and lives on with his cursed nature, makes him interesting character. Really I recommend everyone to play Ikusa Megami Zero and Verita if you like fantasy stories. And can't fucking wait for next IM game, which probably will be remake of the "first" IM game as I have heard that Verita makes some big changes to it's setting.

(http://img63.imageshack.us/img63/5393/cg000092.jpg) (http://img63.imageshack.us/i/cg000092.jpg/)
Beside any character who has personal loli meido or makes harem of maids is awesome in my books.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: the_paper on May 05, 2010, 09:17:02 am
Finished Love love H maid
http://vndb.org/v3632 (it's translated)

I wanted to take a break because Clannad is super long but... it seems it was a short break (20 to complete the game)/

Wow, a non-Black Lilith Lilith game!

I don't go in for clumsiness-moe that much, especially when it's maids or waitresses doing it (anyone else seen Resort Boin? God I wanted to slap the brunette waitress after she tripped over nothing for the 7374th time), but the heroine looks so cute I may reconsider.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: izmosmolnar on May 05, 2010, 11:54:26 am
It's a 500 lines long nukige without any essence whatsoever. Its only good point (which is why I rated it with 5/10) that it has most hscenes with small animation which is impressive for a game made back then.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Mohlt on May 06, 2010, 02:59:10 pm
"Supah" "shiny" and "pretty" ef - a fairy tale of the two, not as "shiny" and "pretty" as NNL would like to be, but it's still good. Personally I think anime is superior to VN(well, first half atleast), more dramatic, better plot events. I hope they translate Eden*, read demo, looks promising.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: KoiNoDensetsu on May 06, 2010, 08:57:35 pm
Chain and Shuffle Essence+.  Chain needs to fucking end already.  It's an okay mystery novel (e.g.: generic), but it drags onnnnn and onnnn and ONNNNN. (ala KiraKira)
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: maitrenuage on May 07, 2010, 02:34:55 pm
Chain and Shuffle Essence+.  Chain needs to fucking end already.  It's an okay mystery novel (e.g.: generic), but it drags onnnnn and onnnn and ONNNNN. (ala KiraKira)
Each time you say bad things about Kirakira, a character of KGNE fall into a coma.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Moriken on May 07, 2010, 02:51:20 pm
Chain and Shuffle Essence+.  Chain needs to fucking end already.  It's an okay mystery novel (e.g.: generic), but it drags onnnnn and onnnn and ONNNNN. (ala KiraKira)
Each time you say bad things about Kirakira, a character of KGNE fall into a coma.

And thus creates the basic setting for Kanon...!
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: KoiNoDensetsu on May 08, 2010, 12:08:26 am
Chain and Shuffle Essence+.  Chain needs to fucking end already.  It's an okay mystery novel (e.g.: generic), but it drags onnnnn and onnnn and ONNNNN. (ala KiraKira)
Each time you say bad things about Kirakira, a character of KGNE fall into a coma.

Woah, the entire cast of KimiNozo must be in a coma then!  Maybe this can be another fandisc: "Kimi ga Nozomu Eien: Special Heartful Death Disc"?  Everyone but Manami (she is immune to comas; necessary for yandere) will fall into a coma.  With BoobyPurpleHairedSenseiDoctor gone, Manami takes care of everyone.  She murders everyone but Takayuki and Mitsuki. (Mitsuki is used as their sexslave/pet)  That would be such a great fan disc...
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: AQZT on May 08, 2010, 12:19:46 am
Soooo... I got bored of waiting for the G-Sen patch's release and AGTH'd the last chapter:
That was one he'll of a twist at the end. It was sad because of what happened to Kyousuke, but everything ended happily so I guess it's okay.
But now I'm going to need to play it in English to clarify most of the stuff that happened during that chapter. Grrrrrrrr...
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Metarail on May 08, 2010, 09:41:04 am
Well, pretty much finished with Ikusa Megami Verita here. Some scenes and CGs remain and apparently another different ending to "dark" route. Getting them somewhere along later as still need to do bonus dungeon. But Verita was pretty damn great. Became my second favorite.

Other than that just started playing SubaHibi, hopefully it's as great as I except it  to be with all the good things I hear about it. So let's see how far in my list it gets, probably pretty high.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Marche90 on May 08, 2010, 03:59:29 pm
Currently reading ef... It was worth the way, I haven't done anything else than reading aside from school the last 3 days ¬¬ (That might be dangerous in the end Dx, luckily the teachers have been merciful and they haven't gave us any homework)
And I started to read also Kira Kira Curtain Call... That one's on hold 'til I finish ef xD
But soon I will have to start MuvLuv, since the full patch for Extra is out DX!!
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: DaRkWhim on May 08, 2010, 10:45:58 pm
Also currently reading ef.
I read the first chapter way back when, and liked it.
The only thing that makes me hesitate when reading it is knowledge of what happens in the 2'nd chapter, and the translation style.
not that the translation is bad.
It just feels like they americanize everything a little too much.
Being the originality fag I am, I'd rather they had just literally translated it and added TL notes(like in cross channel, which in my opinion had a superb translation.)

And I also finished Curtain Call which I thought was way better than the original.
The story and the main character were badass.
the only bad(or good depending on how you look at it) thing about it is that it focuses on the main character and his band too much and never really fleshes out the female character enough(at least for me).

Can't wait for Kara no Shoujo though. It really looks amazing.
I've been craving something dark like Saya for a while.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: maitrenuage on May 14, 2010, 04:32:20 am
Narcissu 2 was not as bawwwwing as Narcissu 1 but t was good (oh god, the loli's voice was tear jerking  :'( )

Now I'm ready for the >50H of Clannad.

Exactly one month later, I went trough all the paths in Clannad.
As expected of a nukige, the h-scene with Nagissa was hot. ;D

Checking my "to play" list... hum... Maybe I'll try the Sharin no Kuni fandisk.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: X-Calibar on May 14, 2010, 10:12:54 am
Started reading Tsukihime from the beginning again... shooting for Akhia this time!  [only have Arcueid's true end so far...]
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: izmosmolnar on May 14, 2010, 02:33:40 pm
Finished Ayakashibito.
Yes this was definitely hell of a lot better than Bullet Butlers in my opinion. The game is well worth to read for the final route which was pretty nice. There are many well built characters all around and their interactions with one another is quite entertaining (Tonya-Suzu), the game's comedy is a lot better than BB's in my opinion, and the game is pretty epic + has decent twists.
I think in terms of routes I'd say Suzu > Kaoru > Tonya > Touko. Tonya was a great heroine, but the story has a lot larger scope in the first two. Also Kuki is a mofo badass. It was nice seeing a great villain like him again.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Moogy on May 15, 2010, 04:43:54 pm
Exactly one month later, I went trough all the paths in Clannad.
As expected of a nukige, the h-scene with Nagissa was hot. ;D
Oh, must you make me pine for that which cannot exist?
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: maitrenuage on May 15, 2010, 11:55:01 pm
Exactly one month later, I went trough all the paths in Clannad.
As expected of a nukige, the h-scene with Nagissa was hot. ;D
Oh, must you make me pine for that which cannot exist?
There was only a black screen for 1 sec (and no sound) but if you have enough imagination you can clearly see it. ;D
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Metarail on May 16, 2010, 01:22:14 am
Have finished few chapters of SubaHibi now, and have to say it's gooooooood. It's so good that I ended up ordering myself a copy already. So yeah, GO PLAY IT NOW.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: maitrenuage on May 16, 2010, 05:21:40 am
Have finished few chapters of SubaHibi now, and have to say it's gooooooood. It's so good that I ended up ordering myself a copy already. So yeah, GO PLAY IT NOW.
OK but first, you have to translate it. 8)
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Metarail on May 16, 2010, 06:21:16 am
Have finished few chapters of SubaHibi now, and have to say it's gooooooood. It's so good that I ended up ordering myself a copy already. So yeah, GO PLAY IT NOW.
OK but first, you have to translate it. 8)
Well, you don't wan't me to translate it as my translation skills sucks, good thing that Moogy/TLwiki is doing it.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: maitrenuage on May 16, 2010, 01:54:19 pm
Took me a month to complete Clannad and two days to read Houzuki's path in the Sharin no Kuni fandisk.

It seems they didn't translate everything. I don't care about the supplementary h-scenes for all the heroine of SNK, but what about Eri ?
Does someone know what happens in her (short) route ?
btw, Eri is the girl who is killed by Houzuki in the five first minutes of SnK so I'm not sure about what kind of route she can have in the fandisk...
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: DxS on May 16, 2010, 03:59:35 pm
Took me a month to complete Clannad and two days to read Houzuki's path in the Sharin no Kuni fandisk.

It seems they didn't translate everything. I don't care about the supplementary h-scenes for all the heroine of SNK, but what about Eri ?
Does someone know what happens in her (short) route ?
btw, Eri is the girl who is killed by Houzuki in the five first minutes of SnK so I'm not sure about what kind of route she can have in the fandisk...

Well its an Omake so maybe its before SnK even started?

Was  Houzuki's story good?

I ask because every time i try to play the fandisk i get an error and am unable to run it. I tried to get the standalone in case that was the problem but they took away the standalone link, so now i can't play it and I don't wanna ask for help and waste people's time unless its really worth it.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: AQZT on May 17, 2010, 12:49:09 am
Took me a month to complete Clannad and two days to read Houzuki's path in the Sharin no Kuni fandisk.

It seems they didn't translate everything. I don't care about the supplementary h-scenes for all the heroine of SNK, but what about Eri ?
Does someone know what happens in her (short) route ?
btw, Eri is the girl who is killed by Houzuki in the five first minutes of SnK so I'm not sure about what kind of route she can have in the fandisk...

Well its an Omake so maybe its before SnK even started?

Was  Houzuki's story good?

I ask because every time i try to play the fandisk i get an error and am unable to run it. I tried to get the standalone in case that was the problem but they took away the standalone link, so now i can't play it and I don't wanna ask for help and waste people's time unless its really worth it.
Houzuki's route was very good for shedding light on his motivations in HnS.
And the ending was Badass. It was worth playing for just that alone.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: X-Calibar on May 17, 2010, 02:13:28 am
..  I just finished a new Tsukihime route.  First, it was Arcueid's True Ending back last year?  Now today just finished Akhia's True Ending... 

I think these VNs destroy me a little bit each time :o  It's not a sad story, maybe...  but, somehow I feel like I should bawl forever.  Or should I smile completely and geniunely?  Unlike books, I think for whatever reason I try to put my entire self into these stories.  To feel something deeper.   When I see Akhia's picture, I think my heart screams her name.  It seems I can't understand true happiness...  hope...  It's so much easier for me to sympathize with sadness than to understand what happiness is...

But, I want to know. 

I enjoyed Akhia's route... it was mostly very different  than Arcueid's..  But, somehow much sadder to me.  No, I don't think I cried once... but somehow.  I'm writhing in anguish..

I'm tired...  I rate her route very memorable.  It was shallow at times... far too short maybe...  But, everything was pretty much timed right.  I was caught off-guard with uncertainty about my choices... but I ended up with the true ending.
I only got one bad ending (on purpose near beginning) before getting the true route.  [which let me see Arc just once xD  Hillarious!  *sees the frantic dancing neko-arcs... LOL*

Just hearing that song... so nostalgic...
*some time passes*
ahem!  Finished the route and had time to think on it.  I can safely guess that Arcueid and Akhia will be my favorite routes of Tsukihime.  Both were very enjoyable.  Not super exceptional, but very enjoyable and memorible. 
I guess I'll take another long break though, before beginning anew...
Akhia...
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: maitrenuage on May 17, 2010, 08:03:16 am
Took me a month to complete Clannad and two days to read Houzuki's path in the Sharin no Kuni fandisk.

It seems they didn't translate everything. I don't care about the supplementary h-scenes for all the heroine of SNK, but what about Eri ?
Does someone know what happens in her (short) route ?
btw, Eri is the girl who is killed by Houzuki in the five first minutes of SnK so I'm not sure about what kind of route she can have in the fandisk...

Well its an Omake so maybe its before SnK even started?

Was  Houzuki's story good?

I ask because every time i try to play the fandisk i get an error and am unable to run it. I tried to get the standalone in case that was the problem but they took away the standalone link, so now i can't play it and I don't wanna ask for help and waste people's time unless its really worth it.
Houzuki's route was very good for shedding light on his motivations in HnS.
And the ending was Badass. It was worth playing for just that alone.
Yeah it was not bad (7/10).
I also had this bug but there is a way to prevent it : desactivate the voice for the character "others".
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: DxS on May 17, 2010, 01:46:40 pm
Took me a month to complete Clannad and two days to read Houzuki's path in the Sharin no Kuni fandisk.

It seems they didn't translate everything. I don't care about the supplementary h-scenes for all the heroine of SNK, but what about Eri ?
Does someone know what happens in her (short) route ?
btw, Eri is the girl who is killed by Houzuki in the five first minutes of SnK so I'm not sure about what kind of route she can have in the fandisk...

Well its an Omake so maybe its before SnK even started?

Was  Houzuki's story good?

I ask because every time i try to play the fandisk i get an error and am unable to run it. I tried to get the standalone in case that was the problem but they took away the standalone link, so now i can't play it and I don't wanna ask for help and waste people's time unless its really worth it.
Houzuki's route was very good for shedding light on his motivations in HnS.
And the ending was Badass. It was worth playing for just that alone.
Yeah it was not bad (7/10).
I also had this bug but there is a way to prevent it : desactivate the voice for the character "others".

Well I always wondered why Houzuki acted that way so I suppose i'm gonna have to read it.

Can anyone explain to me how they set up the patch after installing the game (and in case i got a bad copy of the game anyone mind PMing me a working torrent for the fandisk), since it didn't work with my copy no matter what I tried and I do wanna play it since i like the original game so much.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: maitrenuage on May 17, 2010, 02:09:28 pm
I think you only have to copy/paste the two files from the patch in the VN repertory (I use the standalone + the last patch).
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: DxS on May 17, 2010, 02:13:26 pm
I think you only have to copy/paste the two files from the patch in the VN repertory (I use the standalone + the last patch).

I see, I tried doing that but it didn't work, it didn't even work when i sued applocale or when i was in Japanese locale.

Man I wish tlWiki still had the standalone available for download. Does anybody know a place where I could still download the standalone from?
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Moogy on May 17, 2010, 03:30:21 pm
We didn't translate all of the FD because most of the rest of it basically isn't worth playing. Eri's route is a short sidestory depicting her journey to the site of the SHCI exam in the first game. It is boring and doesn't really have anything to do with anything.

Anyway, finished Akatsuki no Goei. Shitty romance and abrupt endings abound, but it has great characters and is probably the funniest eroge I've ever played. Structure is pretty wonky, too, though, so you can't really give it higher than a 7x or so. Still a pretty charming little game; I don't regret playing it. Definitely going to play the two sequels. Oh, and the artist (http://danbooru.donmai.us/post/index?tags=tomose_shunsaku) ain't half bad either.

Also, if you were looking forward to Hidoi's translation of Akagoei, just forget it. It's an extremely difficult game to translate (at least 50% of the text is manzai, I swear, and the writing itself is pretty clever too), and Hidoi basically just fails at life in general. There's no way they're going to do any sort of justice to the game.

Off the top of my head, here are some (admittedly arbitrary) translation difficulty ratings from stuff I've worked on and how they compare to Akagoei:

Sharin: ~2/10
SubaHibi: ~5/10
Demonbane: ~6-7/10
Akatsuki no Goei: ~8/10

Basically, you need to be a pretty funny guy who is intimately familiar with how both Japanese and English humor work and the differences between the two approaches if you want to tackle this game. Being a good writer is also a requirement. So yeah, Hidoi might as well not even bother; they're just going to butcher the game completely. Oh well!

Playing Muv-Luv now. Extra's pretty funny so far.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: DxS on May 17, 2010, 03:34:39 pm
We didn't translate all of the FD because most of the rest of it basically isn't worth playing. Eri's route is a short sidestory depicting her journey to the site of the SHCI exam in the first game. It is boring and doesn't really have anything to do with anything.

Anyway, finished Akatsuki no Goei. Shitty romance and abrupt endings abound, but it has great characters and is probably the funniest eroge I've ever played. Structure is pretty wonky, too, though, so you can't really give it higher than a 7x or so. Still a pretty charming little game; I don't regret playing it. Definitely going to play the two sequels. Oh, and the artist (http://danbooru.donmai.us/post/index?tags=tomose_shunsaku) ain't half bad either.

Also, if you were looking forward to Hidoi's translation of Akagoei, just forget it. It's an extremely difficult game to translate (at least 50% of the text is manzai, I swear, and the writing itself is pretty clever too), and Hidoi basically just fails at life in general. There's no way they're going to do any sort of justice to the game.

Off the top of my head, here are some (admittedly arbitrary) translation difficulty ratings from stuff I've worked on and how they compare to Akagoei:

Sharin: ~2/10
SubaHibi: ~5/10
Demonbane: ~6-7/10
Akatsuki no Goei: ~8/10

Basically, you need to be a pretty funny guy who is intimately familiar with how both Japanese and English humor work and the differences between the two approaches if you want to tackle this game. Being a good writer is also a requirement. So yeah, Hidoi might as well not even bother; they're just going to butcher the game completely. Oh well!

Playing Muv-Luv now. Extra's pretty funny so far.

Ouch. I didn't know they were that bad.

By the way did you work on Demonbane translation by yourself?
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: KoiNoDensetsu on May 17, 2010, 04:13:28 pm
Playing Muv-Luv now. Extra's pretty funny so far.

You never played Muv-Luv before? O_o
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: izmosmolnar on May 17, 2010, 05:08:11 pm
Finished Chrono Belt too, wow what can I say. This is how you do a Fandisk. This is how you do a Crossover while being consistent to the original games and make a good reason for a crossover.
Probably the most satisfying fandisk I ever going to play, and that's coming from someone who disliked Bullet Butlers. (They managed only put the good BB parts in Chrono Belt so that was great too.)
Anyway it's really epic, and totally worth at least playing Selma's route of BB for Chrono Belt. I either start Katahane or Angelos Armas.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Moogy on May 17, 2010, 05:11:13 pm
By the way did you work on Demonbane translation by yourself?
No, I only pitched in with a few scripts due to deadlines - not enough time to get everything edited, so scripts that didn't need to be edited were at a premium, so to speak. Makoto, a commissioned commercial translator, and another fan translator did the brunt of the work.

You never played Muv-Luv before? O_o
Nope. Can't wait to finally feast upon the beauty of Alter.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: DxS on May 17, 2010, 07:17:43 pm
By the way did you work on Demonbane translation by yourself?
No, I only pitched in with a few scripts due to deadlines - not enough time to get everything edited, so scripts that didn't need to be edited were at a premium, so to speak. Makoto, a commissioned commercial translator, and another fan translator did the brunt of the work.

You never played Muv-Luv before? O_o
Nope. Can't wait to finally feast upon the beauty of Alter.

I see, well that's good to know.

Have fun with MuvLuv then.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Sirf*palot on May 18, 2010, 08:50:35 pm
Working on Umineko (middle of Ch.1 after a long hiatus),Muv Luv and maybe Ef  or should I just put Ef off for a little later (reasoning being ef is like suika, multiple semi connected short stories vs one long continious plot where you might have to recall previous plot points and events)

Btw, should I watch the anime also? (to reduce my back log?)but I keep hearing that the anime adaptation blows hard.... :P

Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: yimw on May 18, 2010, 09:53:47 pm
The Umineko anime or the ef anime? Either way you shouldn't.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Marche90 on May 18, 2010, 11:22:02 pm
I can't speak for the Umineko adaptation since I have never watched it, however the one I can talk about is ef. Actually it was a good enough series with a catchy op (the full version is on my mobile)... Not that is better than the VN anyway, but if you are liking ef most likely you will like the anime too...
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Moogy on May 19, 2010, 01:03:08 am
ef anime is a thousand times better than the game. The game is really weak in comparison in fact.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Sirf*palot on May 19, 2010, 09:55:55 am
Well, I was talking about the Umineko adaptation. My general policy is to play the eroge/vn of anime adaptions first or only (excluding the period before I discovered VNs). The only reason I'm considering the Umineko anime is because I'm still not used to the Umineko sprite art style.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Sheeta on May 19, 2010, 10:02:14 am
Well, I was talking about the Umineko adaptation. My general policy is to play the eroge/vn of anime adaptions first or only (excluding the period before I discovered VNs). The only reason I'm considering the Umineko anime is because I'm still not used to the Umineko sprite art style.
You'll get used to it by the end of ep1. Heck, I prefer the VN sprites to the anime's designs, where they all got bishified and looked exactly the same >.>

You're welcome to try the Umineko anime, but it's generally regarded to be a terrible adaption. I'd say stick to the VN.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Moriken on May 19, 2010, 12:14:52 pm
Well, I was talking about the Umineko adaptation. My general policy is to play the eroge/vn of anime adaptions first or only (excluding the period before I discovered VNs). The only reason I'm considering the Umineko anime is because I'm still not used to the Umineko sprite art style.
You'll get used to it by the end of ep1. Heck, I prefer the VN sprites to the anime's designs, where they all got bishified and looked exactly the same >.>

You're welcome to try the Umineko anime, but it's generally regarded to be a terrible adaption. I'd say stick to the VN.

I second that.
It's way too rushed and they cut out all the funny bits and pieces and stuff...
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: DxS on May 19, 2010, 01:51:51 pm
ef anime is a thousand times better than the game. The game is really weak in comparison in fact.

Really? hmm that's strange it doesn't usually seem to happen that way.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: izmosmolnar on May 19, 2010, 02:30:06 pm
Playing Angelos Armas. It's quite strange. I really like its presentation because it's pretty cool and it really is something new and fresh, however the game has way too much narration (I got something like 68% narration / 32% dialogue when I counted based on what I had in agth), and many of them isn't really important IMO. This wouldn't be so bad, however it makes it even more bothersome if one has to highlight the narrations in agth.
It has a pretty great music though, and so far I'm interested in its story.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: maitrenuage on May 22, 2010, 04:22:57 am
I just finished Curtain Call yesterday.
It was not bad but I hated Souta and I definitively needed MOAR of Miru.
For once I tought the usual friend character (-> Murakami) would have a piece of the cake... At least it's suggested that Murakami and Miru love each other but I wanted to see what would happen between them. :P

In the end, I guess I'll give this ranking for the overdrive VN :

Kirakira > Edelweiss > Eternal Fantasia > Curtain Call
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: DxS on May 22, 2010, 11:15:42 am
I just finished Curtain Call yesterday.
It was not bad but I hated Souta and I definitively needed MOAR of Miru.
For once I tought the usual friend character (-> Murakami) would have a piece of the cake... At least it's suggested that Murakami and Miru love each other but I wanted to see what would happen between them. :P

In the end, I guess I'll give this ranking for the overdrive VN :

Kirakira > Edelweiss > Eternal Fantasia > Curtain Call

Reflects my opinion on it too although i did like souta. I agree with your ranking though.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: izmosmolnar on May 22, 2010, 05:55:06 pm
Dunno I actually enjoyed Kira Kira FD maybe even a bit more than the original as despite hating the protagonist during the first story, I think the drama aspects were handled better (there's no driving into the ocean, or spoiled, irritating yakuza girls stalking you to Tokyo). It's a decent fandisk, and I feel it was better than Edelweiss' FD or even the original Edelweiss.
I'd go like Kira Kira = Kira Kira FD > Edelweiss FD > Edelweiss (some routes aren't really good).

_________
Finished Angelos Armas (2 of the 3 routes, but I can't be arsed with the ghost heroine). It's quite strange eroge. It really has an awesome presentation at times with multiple (3-4) CGs zooming in and out moving left and right and all the while cleverly using the textbubbles. I really wonder why didn't they kept using this in their latter games.
Otherwise the game has a bit too much rape imo, and the story is only decent, but nothing great (Henri's route had a few moments where I was like lolwtf), albeit it has some nice characters. Jay is a really despicable insane kinda antagonist though. I think the apocalypse aspects were better handled in a certain other Nitro+ game to be honest. Well it's a decent game, but I wouldn't really recommend it to everyone. And yeah that was the weakest N+ game I played so far.

With this I have played all of Higashiguchi's (Saya/Kikokugai artist) games, at least for a few days until Evolimit is released.
I'd rank them like Saya > Ayakashibito = Chrono Belt > Kikokugai > Jouka no Monshou = Angelos Armas > Bullet Butlers

I'm few scenes into Katahane now, Coco is hhhhhhhhnnnnnnnnnggggg.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: maitrenuage on May 26, 2010, 02:22:41 am
I just finished the standalone of Hiyori's route in Mizuiro and then I found something : http://www.ayashii.com/blog/ayashii-gamesubs.html
Do you know if this VN has been fully translated by ayashii ?

EDIT : hum according to the translation library, THIS is the patch for Hiyori's route only.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Metarail on May 26, 2010, 07:16:37 am
Still reading SubaHibi as my speed is slow, been awesome. Just finished the jabberwocky1 chapter, and damn that twist, didn't really see that coming, altough all the hints were there I just didn't figure it out before it was spelled to me. But dammit I just love it when everything that has happened and felt weird and then it gets explained and it klicks and you go "oh that was so, now everything makes so much more sense". Now I wonder tough how this all is going to end. Have to say that this is one thing that you don't want to get spoilered at all.

On another note my SubaHibi copy finally arrived. Feels good man, to support the industry. (altough my wallet likes to disagree with this sometimes...)
(http://img121.imageshack.us/img121/3338/subahibi1.jpg) (http://img121.imageshack.us/i/subahibi1.jpg/)
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: KoiNoDensetsu on May 26, 2010, 03:36:06 pm
I just finished the standalone of Hiyori's route in Mizuiro and then I found something : http://www.ayashii.com/blog/ayashii-gamesubs.html
Do you know if this VN has been fully translated by ayashii ?

EDIT : hum according to the translation library, THIS is the patch for Hiyori's route only.

How did you like Mizuiro?  I have been interested in that eroge for a while.

And wow, that is a beautiful box for SubaHibi...  I like.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: maitrenuage on May 26, 2010, 04:34:26 pm
It was shorter than I tought.
Since I've watched the two anime, I was expecting more character developement and more drama. I guess the story is more detailed in the non-H anime... :-X
Regardless that it was a good vn (7/10) but there are better onse out there (Lamune http://vndb.org/v1506 was far more interesting).

... I'd like to try Sorairo http://vndb.org/v1914 one of those days.

On a side note, it's always a double win to go for the "ghost" of a girl who is in a coma because you can have her virginity twice. :-*

/

Now I'm playing One.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: izmosmolnar on May 26, 2010, 05:22:59 pm
Giniro >>>>> Mizuiro.
Latter was kinda disappointing in my opinion. It had a few nice moments, but Giniro was far more heart-wrenching.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Mazyrian on May 27, 2010, 08:52:06 am
Giniro >>>>> Mizuiro.
Latter was kinda disappointing in my opinion. It had a few nice moments, but Giniro was far more heart-wrenching.

Wholeheartedly agree (even with Giniro's so-called "translation"). Mizuiro wasn't terrible, but it wasn't really memorable neither. Hiyori's route was by far the most interesting (though I didn't finish Kiyoka's).
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Moriken on May 27, 2010, 03:44:46 pm
Giniro >>>>> Mizuiro.
Latter was kinda disappointing in my opinion. It had a few nice moments, but Giniro was far more heart-wrenching.

When we're talking about Nekoneko-Soft...Scarlett ist pretty nice too, and it even has Wakamoto and Tetsu Inada!! And it's *fully* voiced!! I still need to read Gin'iro someday. I need to do so much >_>

Finished Concerto Note yesterday, and I have to admit, I don't know why it got such high ratings (80 on erogamescape etc.). It's decent (6-6,5), but mainly very slow and not very...interesting slice of life stuff. Some scenes are really funny, but that's maybe 10% of the game. And the "true" route was pretty obvious...yawn.
No idea what next, reading the original Killer Queen out of sheer boredom. It's way way better than the remake. O.o
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: KoiNoDensetsu on May 27, 2010, 05:10:01 pm
Hm, I'm surprised it's not as amazing as I have heard.  I have seen a few people say that Mizuiro is there favorite eroge.  Weird.
On a side note, I want to play basically all of NekoNeko-Soft's eroge.  They all look great.

Oh and @maitrenuage: if you like ONE, hold off on the anime.  It is an atrocity. 
H-anime is only terrible.  So if you must watch one, watch that.  At least that version has something to do with the VN.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Mazyrian on May 28, 2010, 08:42:51 am
Yes, I have seen few things worse than the non-H ONE OVAs, and none that come to mind right now.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: X-Calibar on May 28, 2010, 12:01:39 pm
Finished Tsukihime... Hisui's true route!
So, so far... Arcueid -> Akhia -> Hisui ...
When I start again, I'll probably go with Kohaku then finish the circle with Ciel.

So far it seems like a good choice of route order.
Arcueid and Akhia; my favorite choices were both very different and exciting... solidifying my rating as Tsukihime being excellent overall. 
I'm considering Hisui's route, a bad ending; and hoping Kohaku will be the good ending I'm hoping for.  [In which case I'll merge my rating for Hisui's route with Kohaku's... as I imagine they should be played one after the other.] (Hisui's route had potential, but it was much more informative and interesting than memorible... I mean, I liked Hisui's character plenty, but the route needed more ***** to pull off the "grand overture" at the end... )

Here's hoping that Kohaku and Ciel's routes will blow me away to finish Tsukihime off...  ;D
oh and btw... the moon last night was ---- so ----- beautiful.
[not to mention the sky looked right out of one of the tsukihime sky pictures...]
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Moogy on May 28, 2010, 06:10:07 pm
Generally, the recommended order for Tsukihime is Arc Ciel Akiha Hisui Kohaku.

Jumping back and forth between Near Side and Far Side like you're doing is bound to produce weird results, especially since the little intro to the Far Side stuff is at the end of Ciel's route.

In any case, just make sure you do Kohaku's route last; it doesn't really work anywhere else.

By the way, Hisui and Kohaku's routes are almost completely different. Personally, my favorite character and route is Hisui... her route has an awesome approach to storytelling and really powerful endings. Nasu's best stuff.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Mazyrian on May 29, 2010, 08:12:07 am
I liked them more or less in the play order; that is, Arc>Ciel=Akiha>Hisui>Kohaku. Though simple, I found Arc's route the best; Hisui wasn't as a whole as interesting and in Kohaku's I found the romance very forced.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: maitrenuage on May 29, 2010, 03:11:47 pm
Ok guys now I'm serious ! >:(

I just finished Nagamori's path (One).
What the hell happened to her in the classroom after christmass (I'm sure you know what I mean) ?
Depending on you answer I may want to kill the main protag.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Mazyrian on May 29, 2010, 03:35:38 pm
Some groping?
IIRC in her H scene it's made clear that she was still virgin then.
Not that the protagonist doesn't deserve what you wish to give him.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: DxS on May 29, 2010, 04:45:22 pm
I liked them more or less in the play order; that is, Arc>Ciel=Akiha>Hisui>Kohaku. Though simple, I found Arc's route the best; Hisui wasn't as a whole as interesting and in Kohaku's I found the romance very forced.

The route si liked wiere in the order:

Arc>Akiha>Hisui>Kohaku>Ciel
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: AQZT on May 29, 2010, 06:23:07 pm
Some groping?
IIRC in her H scene it's made clear that she was still virgin then.
Not that the protagonist doesn't deserve what you wish to give him.
What? But Kouhei is hilarious! Not anywhere near Tomoya's level but still! Why would you want to kill him?
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Shikiller on May 29, 2010, 07:16:51 pm
Because he's a giant asshat?
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: yimw on May 29, 2010, 09:57:30 pm
In the best way possible though.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: AQZT on May 30, 2010, 12:58:05 am
Because he's a giant asshat?
So? He's still hilarious.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Mazyrian on May 30, 2010, 01:05:01 am
At that moment, I mean (and for all that part in Nagamori's route).
Yes, he's pretty funny, funnier than Tomoya to me (though every Key protagonist has that to some degree). Maybe my favourite Key protagonist (once again, discounting that scene).
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: AQZT on May 30, 2010, 02:49:55 am
At that moment, I mean (and for all that part in Nagamori's route).
Yes, he's pretty funny, funnier than Tomoya to me (though every Key protagonist has that to some degree). Maybe my favourite Key protagonist (once again, discounting that scene).
Oh wait. Nagamori. You mean THAT scene.
Actually, I agree with you here. I wanted to murder Kouhei for about half of Mizuka's route, until after THAT scene. He got better.
And Tomoya is a much better protag than Kouhei. Mainly becauses he balances humor with sheer GARness.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Kiru on May 30, 2010, 11:25:27 am
Finally finished Fate/Stay Night. (All 40+5 endings + last episode) I still miss a CG in HF, but I don't care.

UBW was certainly the best out of the three routes. HF would be better if I had actually cared about Sakura... but oh well. It was still good stuff, at least as long as there wasn't to much "Sakura~" going on.

I rate it 8/10. The whole thing somewhat overdoes the "let's overcome every obstacle with sheer willpower"-thing, but it's still a very good novel. However, Lancer REALLY should have had MUCH more screentime.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: DxS on May 30, 2010, 01:19:05 pm
Finally finished Fate/Stay Night. (All 40+5 endings + last episode) I still miss a CG in HF, but I don't care.

UBW was certainly the best out of the three routes. HF would be better if I had actually cared about Sakura... but oh well. It was still good stuff, at least as long as there wasn't to much "Sakura~" going on.

I rate it 8/10. The whole thing somewhat overdoes the "let's overcome every obstacle with sheer willpower"-thing, but it's still a very good novel. However, Lancer REALLY should have had MUCH more screentime.

I agree that lancer should have had more screen time, though my order of preference was UBW>Fate>HF but its all a matter of personal taste so w/e.

I wonder if they'll ever remake fate with that 4th cancelled illya route in it.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Ixrec on May 30, 2010, 01:24:14 pm
I'm the weirdo who thinks HF>UBW>Fate.

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I wonder if they'll ever remake fate with that 4th cancelled illya route in it.

Well, Tsukihime got a remake with Satsuki route, so...
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Kiru on May 30, 2010, 03:21:14 pm
Well, Tsukihime got a remake with Satsuki route, so...

Isn't that just a rumor?

Anyway, I think they merged Ilyas stuff into Sakuras route, so I don't think she really needs a route. Well I like Ilya, so I wouldn't be against one, but an all-ages route would probably be the best in her case.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: kViN on May 30, 2010, 03:55:29 pm
Well, Tsukihime got a remake with Satsuki route, so...

Isn't that just a rumor?

Anyway, I think they merged Ilyas stuff into Sakuras route, so I don't think she really needs a route. Well I like Ilya, so I wouldn't be against one, but an all-ages route would probably be the best in her case.

Excuse me but I want to bang her until we both die of exhaustion.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: maitrenuage on May 30, 2010, 04:14:15 pm
At that moment, I mean (and for all that part in Nagamori's route).
Yes, he's pretty funny, funnier than Tomoya to me (though every Key protagonist has that to some degree). Maybe my favourite Key protagonist (once again, discounting that scene).
Oh wait. Nagamori. You mean THAT scene.
Actually, I agree with you here. I wanted to murder Kouhei for about half of Mizuka's route, until after THAT scene. He got better.
And Tomoya is a much better protag than Kouhei. Mainly becauses he balances humor with sheer GARness.

Of course we were talking about "THAT" scene (starting today, when we're talking about "that scene" it will be a reference to THAT scene ine One... Am I clear ? :D)
Nagamori was the first girl I went for so I was scared of what would happen to the others.
I've just cleared Mio's path and I'm at ease now (Kouhei is not a total jerk in all the paths).

Regardless that, I want to take Mio home. Where can I find a cute and mute girl like that who hugs you all the time ?
I mean... a MUTE girl... a girl who never talks !

... 2D is so much superior...  ;D
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Kyon_Geass on May 30, 2010, 04:17:22 pm
Well, Tsukihime got a remake with Satsuki route, so...

Isn't that just a rumor?

Anyway, I think they merged Ilyas stuff into Sakuras route, so I don't think she really needs a route. Well I like Ilya, so I wouldn't be against one, but an all-ages route would probably be the best in her case.

Excuse me but I want to bang her until we both die of exhaustion.
who, Sacchin or Ilya? =p
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: maitrenuage on May 30, 2010, 04:19:26 pm
Well, Tsukihime got a remake with Satsuki route, so...

Isn't that just a rumor?

Anyway, I think they merged Ilyas stuff into Sakuras route, so I don't think she really needs a route. Well I like Ilya, so I wouldn't be against one, but an all-ages route would probably be the best in her case.

Excuse me but I want to bang her until we both die of exhaustion.
who, Sacchin or Ilya? =p
Or Berserker...
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: DxS on May 30, 2010, 05:28:51 pm
Well, Tsukihime got a remake with Satsuki route, so...

Isn't that just a rumor?

Anyway, I think they merged Ilyas stuff into Sakuras route, so I don't think she really needs a route. Well I like Ilya, so I wouldn't be against one, but an all-ages route would probably be the best in her case.

Excuse me but I want to bang her until we both die of exhaustion.

Me too =p
I mean she is over 21.

Still though i'd be nice to see a illya route, but maybe that's just my wishful thinking.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Mazyrian on May 30, 2010, 05:40:11 pm
At that moment, I mean (and for all that part in Nagamori's route).
Yes, he's pretty funny, funnier than Tomoya to me (though every Key protagonist has that to some degree). Maybe my favourite Key protagonist (once again, discounting that scene).
Oh wait. Nagamori. You mean THAT scene.
Actually, I agree with you here. I wanted to murder Kouhei for about half of Mizuka's route, until after THAT scene. He got better.
And Tomoya is a much better protag than Kouhei. Mainly becauses he balances humor with sheer GARness.

Of course we were talking about "THAT" scene (starting today, when we're talking about "that scene" it will be a reference to THAT scene ine One... Am I clear ? :D)
Nagamori was the first girl I went for so I was scared of what would happen to the others.
I've just cleared Mio's path and I'm at ease now (Kouhei is not a total jerk in all the paths).

Regardless that, I want to take Mio home. Where can I find a cute and mute girl like that who hugs you all the time ?
I mean... a MUTE girl... a girl who never talks !

... 2D is so much superior...  ;D

Mio was the first route I finished; or rather, that I managed to finish. My idea was to do Nagamori's first, but it resulted trickier than expected (I certainly didn't though I needed to be a jerkass with her to progress).

I'm the weirdo who thinks HF>UBW>Fate.

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I wonder if they'll ever remake fate with that 4th cancelled illya route in it.

Well, Tsukihime got a remake with Satsuki route, so...

I also like HF>UBW>Fate (though in this case my liking of Sakura must help).
And I think Ilya's route got scrapped much earlier in development than Satsuki's, and most of the former was cannibalized in HF, so an Ilya's route would be much more unlikely.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: yimw on May 30, 2010, 11:05:26 pm
I'm the weirdo who thinks HF>UBW>Fate.
That's what I think too.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: AQZT on May 31, 2010, 02:05:51 am
At that moment, I mean (and for all that part in Nagamori's route).
Yes, he's pretty funny, funnier than Tomoya to me (though every Key protagonist has that to some degree). Maybe my favourite Key protagonist (once again, discounting that scene).
Oh wait. Nagamori. You mean THAT scene.
Actually, I agree with you here. I wanted to murder Kouhei for about half of Mizuka's route, until after THAT scene. He got better.
And Tomoya is a much better protag than Kouhei. Mainly becauses he balances humor with sheer GARness.

Of course we were talking about "THAT" scene (starting today, when we're talking about "that scene" it will be a reference to THAT scene ine One... Am I clear ? :D)
Nagamori was the first girl I went for so I was scared of what would happen to the others.
I've just cleared Mio's path and I'm at ease now (Kouhei is not a total jerk in all the paths).

Regardless that, I want to take Mio home. Where can I find a cute and mute girl like that who hugs you all the time ?
I mean... a MUTE girl... a girl who never talks !

... 2D is so much superior...  ;D
Woah, we had the same route order (though I stopped playing one after Mio's path because I got bored).
And I guess that I'M the weirdo who prefers 3D over 2D
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: DxS on May 31, 2010, 06:07:07 pm
I'm the weirdo who thinks HF>UBW>Fate.
That's what I think too.

I probably would have had the same order if I didn't like Saber more than Rin.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Ixrec on May 31, 2010, 06:43:44 pm
I'm the weirdo who thinks HF>UBW>Fate.
That's what I think too.

I probably would have had the same order if I didn't like Saber more than Rin.

Rephrase: I'm the weirdo who thinks HF>UBW>Fate and has a blog to say so on.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Shikiller on May 31, 2010, 11:54:21 pm
fate> hf>>>>>>ubw.

just saying.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Ixrec on June 01, 2010, 01:16:28 am
I take it you disliked the ending?

That or saw the twist coming in Fate. Some people can do that.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: JONJONAUG on June 01, 2010, 03:44:53 am
I'm the weirdo who thinks HF>UBW>Fate.

High five, HF>UBW>Fate bro!

Just finished up Cross Channel. I saw the ending coming a mile away (by the end of the second mini-route in week 6 I knew exactly what the epilogue was going to be, and I wasn't wrong), but I still liked it. My favorite parts were Youko's week 6 route and pretty much all of week four. Thanks for the translation!
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Ixrec on June 01, 2010, 02:03:16 pm
I'm the weirdo who thinks HF>UBW>Fate.

High five, HF>UBW>Fate bro!

Just finished up Cross Channel. I saw the ending coming a mile away (by the end of the second mini-route in week 6 I knew exactly what the epilogue was going to be, and I wasn't wrong), but I still liked it. My favorite parts were Youko's week 6 route and pretty much all of week four. Thanks for the translation!

Welcome.

Yeah, it's one of those endings that you kinda have to see coming. What's actually fascinating is trying to figure out what exactly happens to him once he's alone, and what if anything this has to do with the apparently plot-hole-riddled first week (HINT).
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: DxS on June 01, 2010, 06:01:46 pm
I take it you disliked the ending?

That or saw the twist coming in Fate. Some people can do that.

What does seeing the twist have to do with him liking Fate best of the three routes.

And what ending that he disliked are you talking about?
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Ixrec on June 01, 2010, 08:12:51 pm
I take it you disliked the ending?

That or saw the twist coming in Fate. Some people can do that.

What does seeing the twist have to do with him liking Fate best of the three routes.

And what ending that he disliked are you talking about?

Oh, I meant seeing the UBW twist so early he was still in Fate. I've heard of people doing that.

And I meant the ending of UBW, which to some can look like a deus ex machina, and trying to explain it to those people involves too much Time Traveler Tense Trouble to be worth the bother.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: AQZT on June 01, 2010, 09:26:30 pm
Dammit Nasu, where's my Satsujinki?
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: DxS on June 02, 2010, 02:22:56 pm
Dammit Nasu, where's my Satsujinki?

I feel really bad for not understanding this.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: DxS on June 02, 2010, 02:24:30 pm
I take it you disliked the ending?

That or saw the twist coming in Fate. Some people can do that.

What does seeing the twist have to do with him liking Fate best of the three routes.

And what ending that he disliked are you talking about?

Oh, I meant seeing the UBW twist so early he was still in Fate. I've heard of people doing that.

And I meant the ending of UBW, which to some can look like a deus ex machina, and trying to explain it to those people involves too much Time Traveler Tense Trouble to be worth the bother.

Oh yeah i kinda guessed it but i always though my guess had no chance of actually coming true and that i was just imagining it.

I understood the ending, but it seemed to action filled, which brought up some confusing plot points and i didn't really like Rin at all.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Moogy on June 02, 2010, 03:28:49 pm
Dammit Nasu, where's my Satsujinki?

I feel really bad for not understanding this.
The protagonist of Tsukihime 2, aka the game that will never be made.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: DxS on June 02, 2010, 07:35:26 pm
Dammit Nasu, where's my Satsujinki?

I feel really bad for not understanding this.
The protagonist of Tsukihime 2, aka the game that will never be made.

oh, i heard some people saying things about tsukihime 2 but i always though it was a joke, was this like a rumor/fan made thing or a canceled game.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: AQZT on June 02, 2010, 07:59:04 pm
Dammit Nasu, where's my Satsujinki?

I feel really bad for not understanding this.
Satsujinki is Tohno Shiki one year after Arcueid's true ending in Tsukihime. His Mystic Eyes have now run almost completely out of control, and he is forced to constantly cover them with bandages constructed out of a church burial shroud. Oh, and he's gained complete control over his Nanaya blood so he can be a badass assassin in ANY situation now.
Generally he is known to be one of the most brokenly awesome and badass characters in Nasuverse, and he probably hasn't been added to the Tsukihime canon yet because Nasu feels that he may be TOO overpowered.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: maitrenuage on June 04, 2010, 03:27:55 pm
I just finished One.
It's sad you don't find anymore girls like Mio and Mayu in recent eroge. I want them both ;)

Mio > Mayu >>> Misaki > Nanase >>> Nagamori > Akane

Which VN should I try now (before Swam Song is released) ?

Fate stay night
wind
symphonic rain
Sono hanabira
Da capo
Suika
hishika & honori (yeah I still have this vn one my desk)
Ai yori aoshi
shera my witch
planetarian
jouka
eien no aselia
gin'iro
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: AQZT on June 04, 2010, 04:02:18 pm
I just finished One.
It's sad you don't find anymore girls like Mio and Mayu in recent eroge. I want them both ;)

Mio > Mayu >>> Misaki > Nanase >>> Nagamori > Akane

Which VN should I try now (before Swam Song is released) ?

Fate stay night
wind
symphonic rain
Sono hanabira
Da capo
Suika
hishika & honori (yeah I still have this vn one my desk)
Ai yori aoshi
shera my witch
planetarian
jouka
eien no aselia
gin'iro
I recommend either Fate or EnA. You could also probably play Planetarian either way, as it is a very short VN

Oh, and I started playing Yukyuu today (It's been sitting in the 'Downloads' folder on my computer for god knows how long). I must say that Houzuki Mark I is just as, if not more, terrifying than Mark II. Just thinking about her face gives me shivers.  :-X :(
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Mazyrian on June 04, 2010, 07:55:05 pm
I just finished One.
It's sad you don't find anymore girls like Mio and Mayu in recent eroge. I want them both ;)

Mio > Mayu >>> Misaki > Nanase >>> Nagamori > Akane

Well, you must be about the only one who liked Mayu.
For me it was Nanase > Akane > Nagamori >= Misaki = Mio >>> Mayu (tough the first 5 I liked about the same). Akane's case is somewhat different in that I liked the route much more than the girl.

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Which VN should I try now (before Swam Song is released) ?

Fate stay night
wind
symphonic rain
Sono hanabira
Da capo
Suika
hishika & honori (yeah I still have this vn one my desk)
Ai yori aoshi
shera my witch
planetarian
jouka
eien no aselia
gin'iro

Of what I played, I'd recommend F/SN. It is kinda along, however. And by that, I mean very long. You could finish half or more of the rest of the list in the same time.
I'm partial to Suika. Gin'iro is similar and better, if you are not bothered by its... "translation". Jouka no Monshou you can finish in less than a hour, so it has that going for it. Besides being good, I mean. (It's by the same writer as Saya no Uta and Kikokugai). Planetarian is short also (3 to 4 hours maybe). Da Capo I found enjoyable, but other people found bland. It's a more conventional  moeblob game.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: DxS on June 04, 2010, 08:12:07 pm
I just finished One.
It's sad you don't find anymore girls like Mio and Mayu in recent eroge. I want them both ;)

Mio > Mayu >>> Misaki > Nanase >>> Nagamori > Akane

Which VN should I try now (before Swam Song is released) ?

Fate stay night
wind
symphonic rain
Sono hanabira
Da capo
Suika
hishika & honori (yeah I still have this vn one my desk)
Ai yori aoshi
shera my witch
planetarian
jouka
eien no aselia
gin'iro

I'd definitely say go for Fate/Stay night  is by far the best VN on that list though Eien no Aselia is also good, though more so for the battle system than the story, which isn't that great when compared to Fate/Stay Night.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: yimw on June 04, 2010, 08:28:37 pm
> Akane
Ouch. She was my favorite.

Now that I think about it my ranking would probably be the complete opposite of yours except Mio would be somewhere in the middle, maybe between Nanase and Misaki. Also where is Hikami? Don't tell me you didn't do his route.

And of the VNs you listed I would recommend F/SN the most.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Kyon_Geass on June 05, 2010, 09:33:13 am
Planetarian, after that, F/SN
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Moogy on June 05, 2010, 07:20:44 pm
All of those games are crap except for Symphonic Rain.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: izmosmolnar on June 06, 2010, 08:14:13 am
Nah no. It's definitely not crap.

In terms of enjoyment I'd say
symphonic rain (awesome) > Giniro (excellent, but you have to be patient to try understanding the godawful tl +listening on the voices) > Eien no Aselia (great) > FSN > (THIS IS THE BEST THING EVER MADE BY MANKIND AND EVERYONE SHOULD HAVE TO PLAY IT BECAUSE IT'S SO AWESOME LIKE NARUTO AND BLEACH XDXDXD, ps SAKURA IS A SLUT) > Planetarian (decent) > Jouka (decent) and the rest is indeed meh, and yeah I did play all with the exception of Shera.

---------
As for me, I recently completed Demonbane, and it's pretty great actually. Has quite a few entertaining moments, really likable support characters (I fucking love Elsa for example, but Dr. West is great after the midgame, + Sandalphon who's voiced by Hiyama Nobuyuki), surprisingly good twists, good humor (lol at the date with Ruri + Kurou going to the cinema and watching Kikokugai's movie among other things), and pretty decent cast overall.
It just starts kinda slow, and the first chapters aren't as entertaining with its monster of the week / episodic stuff. Game is a Canaan for the Lovecraft geeks and supermecha-fans, so all of them should play it, but the 40 bucks price is a really worthwhile price for everyone, considering its enjoyability and its quite long length. I really hope many people will be getting it after all the work which went into it (and before anyone brings up the kazokei translation quality: Demonbane has great translation).

I'm currently replaying the 50% patch of Swan Song now and then gonna see whether betatesting is ready by the time I completed the patch.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: DxS on June 06, 2010, 09:10:45 am
All of those games are crap except for Symphonic Rain.

Well i would say that fate/Stay Night is better and Eien no Aselia is also pretty great but more so for the gameplay.

Besides why should i listen to someone who gave The Best Eroge Ever a 1/10 on vndb I mean its name wasn't The Best Eroge ever for nothing <___<
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: X-Calibar on June 08, 2010, 03:57:53 pm
Generally, the recommended order for Tsukihime is Arc Ciel Akiha Hisui Kohaku.

Jumping back and forth between Near Side and Far Side like you're doing is bound to produce weird results, especially since the little intro to the Far Side stuff is at the end of Ciel's route.

In any case, just make sure you do Kohaku's route last; it doesn't really work anywhere else.

By the way, Hisui and Kohaku's routes are almost completely different. Personally, my favorite character and route is Hisui... her route has an awesome approach to storytelling and really powerful endings. Nasu's best stuff.
Ah... thanks for the reply Moogy  ;D
although I missed it, and uh... I ended up playing Kohaku's route first   :-X [leaving Ciel still!]

I suppose I chose to leave Ciel last since she is Teach me Ciel-Senpai!  While Kohaku should be last in how everything is revealed (end of the story), Ciel hopefully will be one last hurrah of just fun to enjoy the characters and setting one last time.   Also, I didn't feel like I was missing any important pieces when playing Kohaku's route first.  [Ciel was my least favorite character initally, but seeing her in other routes changed my mind!]
I'll know for sure when I play Ciel's route...

Random thoughts on Kohaku's True route...  [some spoilers]

(The main issue with not playing Kohaku last, is the epilogue I imagine?  I probably have to play Ciel and then return to unlock the missing part or something...  At first I thought Ciel-senpai was just being funny...
"But, wait!  There is one character remaining... the most important character..." [I thought she was talking about herself and cracked up for a moment lol.... guess she was not referring to herself :P]

The ending was satisfying ... Surprised me, I was ready to **** Akhia at the end... things worked out though...  I appreciate how Nasu crafts these scenes, vivid imagery; plenty of surprises... solid entertainment. [Hope the remake has some powerful CGs for these scenes just for going all out...]

Only thing I remain confused on, was the first dream/killing.  When he awakens with blood on his hands... In the dream he talked about his eyes so... that isn't *****.  So unless perhaps it was all Kohaku's manipulations between both s and S in a shared dream or something.  I have to conclude that shiki DID kill some random people and met S.  Guess it could be a dream but... anyways that was the only oddity I couldn't decide on.

My only issue with Hisui's route still is although I love how it was shaped; I didn't feel anything for Akhia in that route, and with how it played out, I NEEDed to feel for Akhia to get the most out of it. 
I didn't get to know her enough in my opinion to succeed in the powerful ending that was setup.  Well, that's just my opinion anyways.

Also, I was expecting Sensei to appear in one of the routes... guess that's what the new game is for...
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: AQZT on June 09, 2010, 12:46:33 am
MAJIKOI!!!!!!!!
http://yandere.gray7.com/?p=912#comments

But damn the game's long. I mean, the prologue ALONE is OVER 9000!! lines (over 10000 too :P)
Looks like I have another project that I'm going to be following for the better part of a year...
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Moogy on June 09, 2010, 02:36:20 am
Finished Muvluv and Muvluv Alternative, finally.

Muvluv... you can't really give a score higher than the low 70s to. Extra starts out amusing, but quickly devolves into intolerable slice of life, and Unlimited is essentially an entire game of buildup and development that never amounts to anything (within its own context). That said, Unlimited establishes its setting quite handily, lays the foundation for Takeru's development over the course of Alternative, and generally serves its purpose in the series well. I suppose Extra does what it needs to as well, but it's undeniably rather boring in the process of doing so.

Alternative, on the other hand, for all its faults (horrendous, horrendous pacing being the main one), is the best eroge I've played. Honestly, there's no way I can explain the brilliance of this game in a single post.

As such, I'll be writing a full (emphasis on full) review of it within the next few days; for now, suffice it to say that I want everyone to play this game. Please look forward to Ammy's translation of it in another 8-12 months or so.

On my EGS account I have Alternative at a 99 and SubaHibi at a 98, but the gap between them is pretty damn wide. I doubt I'll ever play anything close to Alternative again - and that's fine, because it was my main motivation for learning Japanese and playing untranslated eroge in the first place.

Next game I'll play will be Sharnoth, for a nice, short change of pace. Then I guess I'll go with BFE or Himawari.

Oh, and one caveat, I suppose... You need to play two full games in order to get to Alternative, and even then it takes another 10-20 hours for things to really start heating up. It also has a nasty habit of killing its own momentum completely with excessively long infodumps/briefings. In other words, don't play Muvluv if you're impatient, because it takes quite some time in order to get to anything truly great and even then the flow of the game is pretty inconsistent.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: maitrenuage on June 09, 2010, 08:10:37 am
I just finished Planetarian and... I... didn't cry...
I swear I... did ot... cry...
...
...
Bouhahahahaaaaaaaa :'(

snif... I'm not crying right now... :'(
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Sirf*palot on June 09, 2010, 08:13:35 am
I started Planetarian but never really finished it due to me playing Kanon and trying to read other VNs at the same time. After I finish MLE, I probably should read Planetarian (well start from the beginning as its been a few months since I last read it) though the fact that it is gonna be sad is really putting me off. My experience with Crying games are not that good (I just don't like feeling weird negative emotions that makes me mangst :P).
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Ixrec on June 09, 2010, 10:11:38 am
Finished Muvluv and Muvluv Alternative, finally.

Muvluv... you can't really give a score higher than the low 70s to. Extra starts out amusing, but quickly devolves into intolerable slice of life, and Unlimited is essentially an entire game of buildup and development that never amounts to anything (within its own context). That said, Unlimited establishes its setting quite handily, lays the foundation for Takeru's development over the course of Alternative, and generally serves its purpose in the series well. I suppose Extra does what it needs to as well, but it's undeniably rather boring in the process of doing so.

Alternative, on the other hand, for all its faults (horrendous, horrendous pacing being the main one), is the best eroge I've played. Honestly, there's no way I can explain the brilliance of this game in a single post.

As such, I'll be writing a full (emphasis on full) review of it within the next few days; for now, suffice it to say that I want everyone to play this game. Please look forward to Ammy's translation of it in another 8-12 months or so.

On my EGS account I have Alternative at a 99 and SubaHibi at a 98, but the gap between them is pretty damn wide. I doubt I'll ever play anything close to Alternative again - and that's fine, because it was my main motivation for learning Japanese and playing untranslated eroge in the first place.

Next game I'll play will be Sharnoth, for a nice, short change of pace. Then I guess I'll go with BFE or Himawari.

Oh, and one caveat, I suppose... You need to play two full games in order to get to Alternative, and even then it takes another 10-20 hours for things to really start heating up. It also has a nasty habit of killing its own momentum completely with excessively long infodumps/briefings. In other words, don't play Muvluv if you're impatient, because it takes quite some time in order to get to anything truly great and even then the flow of the game is pretty inconsistent.

I'm a little confused how something with "a nasty habit of killing its own momentum" can get a 99, but oh well, almost everything you said lines up with stuff in my own review.

So now we need comparisons with Muramasa and Dive 2. Heh.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Moogy on June 09, 2010, 02:10:20 pm
It's like TakaJun said in his review; the rest is good enough to make up for the pacing.

Also, my favorite character ended up being Kasumi. If you disagree you are wrong!!!

Since Makoto is TLing Muramasa, I'll probably end up playing it through in Japanese and English if I like it enough. We'll see.

BS will be a while since it's fucking long.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: AQZT on June 09, 2010, 08:00:57 pm
Just started playing Daibanchou. It's been two minutes and I already love the protag. I have high expectations... ;D
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: izmosmolnar on June 12, 2010, 06:03:35 am
I'm playing Himawari now. Pretty decent so far with lotsa foreshadowing.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: DxS on June 12, 2010, 10:13:36 am
Playing some of the other routes on Eien no Aselia right now, if finished Aselia's route before, but now I'm going for Lesteena's route on Hard mode and then i'll prolly do Esperia or Yuuko route on Super hard. 
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: AQZT on June 12, 2010, 07:30:32 pm
Playing some of the other routes on Eien no Aselia right now, if finished Aselia's route before, but now I'm going for Lesteena's route on Hard mode and then i'll prolly do Esperia or Yuuko route on Super hard.
Yuuko? You mean Kyouko right? Or is that some super-secret special route?
Coincidentially, I just finished EnA yesterday. It was great, but got sort of repetitive on the seventh playthrough. Overall, I'd give it an 8.5~9.5/10.
And Yuuto is overpowered. Way too overpowered.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: KoiNoDensetsu on June 12, 2010, 08:23:26 pm
On the topic of Eien no Aselia, another version was apparently released a few weeks ago.  According to VNDB, it combines the PS2 and adult version.  So I guess that means it has the tentacle path with voice?  Whoo.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: DxS on June 12, 2010, 10:34:44 pm
Playing some of the other routes on Eien no Aselia right now, if finished Aselia's route before, but now I'm going for Lesteena's route on Hard mode and then i'll prolly do Esperia or Yuuko route on Super hard.
Yuuko? You mean Kyouko right? Or is that some super-secret special route?
Coincidentially, I just finished EnA yesterday. It was great, but got sort of repetitive on the seventh playthrough. Overall, I'd give it an 8.5~9.5/10.
And Yuuto is overpowered. Way too overpowered.

Yea i meant Kyouko, got confused cause of MC's name.

I dunno about Yuuto being overpowered though Red magic that hits all the mebers of the enemy party is way more overpowered. Aside from the final dungeon spirits i managed to OHKO all enemies with Nanaru and Apocalypse II.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: DxS on June 12, 2010, 10:36:04 pm
On the topic of Eien no Aselia, another version was apparently released a few weeks ago.  According to VNDB, it combines the PS2 and adult version.  So I guess that means it has the tentacle path with voice?  Whoo.

Yea it was, though i can't really see why anyone would wanna play dark route, since it does not have any extra plot whatsoever, just really disturbing pointless H-Scenes.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: AQZT on June 13, 2010, 03:54:27 am
Playing some of the other routes on Eien no Aselia right now, if finished Aselia's route before, but now I'm going for Lesteena's route on Hard mode and then i'll prolly do Esperia or Yuuko route on Super hard.
Yuuko? You mean Kyouko right? Or is that some super-secret special route?
Coincidentially, I just finished EnA yesterday. It was great, but got sort of repetitive on the seventh playthrough. Overall, I'd give it an 8.5~9.5/10.
And Yuuto is overpowered. Way too overpowered.

Yea i meant Kyouko, got confused cause of MC's name.

I dunno about Yuuto being overpowered though Red magic that hits all the mebers of the enemy party is way more overpowered. Aside from the final dungeon spirits i managed to OHKO all enemies with Nanaru and Apocalypse II.
You have not played Super Hard yet. Yuuto gets a move called Aura Photon Nova which is the most hax skill in the game, which can insta-kill ANY enemy party period. It's basically an even MORE overpowered version of Shun's Aura Photon Break. That and he gets his Eternal support buff which massively raises all of the parties stats, elemental affinities AND actions. Oh, and at lvl 99 on SH he is able to eat up all FOUR of Shun's Aura Photon Breaks AND by extension, EIGHT 'World's. Oh, and after that he is capable on KO'ing him in ONE round with Connected Will+Eternal (Which, by extension makes him perform TWO Connected Wills in one round). So yes, Yuuto is the most broken thing ever.

/rant
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: AQZT on June 13, 2010, 04:02:03 am
On the topic of Eien no Aselia, another version was apparently released a few weeks ago.  According to VNDB, it combines the PS2 and adult version.  So I guess that means it has the tentacle path with voice?  Whoo.

Yea it was, though i can't really see why anyone would wanna play dark route, since it does not have any extra plot whatsoever, just really disturbing pointless H-Scenes.
According to Nighteye:
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The evil route is evil and bad and nothing more shall be said.

Yuuto fails to stop Motome from taking over his mind and body and Motome goes about raping and pillaging to regain his/its lost power. In the end Shun still breaks him and when Tokimi arrives she ends up erasing Yuuto's memories and sends him home to Earth since he didn't have the willpower needed to do anything better. The end! You only play this route to get 100% completion. Or if you like tentacles.
and
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I.... think Kaori just stays in the castle as a prisoner. But she gets sent home with Yuuto by Tokimi at the end, so she's one of the few that gets out unscathed if I remember correctly. Or she at least has her memory wiped anyway.

Kyouko and Kouin die as in any other route where you fail to save them, though you don't even get the option to try to.

The Spirits on your team (Aselia and all 16(?) others) get their mana raped away and turn into the black-eyed, hollow, zombie like versions of themselves. Forever doomed to a bleak existence.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: KoiNoDensetsu on June 14, 2010, 01:27:26 am
I don't care if it is pointless.  Evil routes are still interesting.
Granted, it certainly wouldn't be the first route I would aim for.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: w3g on June 14, 2010, 05:59:04 am
I'm a little confused how something with "a nasty habit of killing its own momentum" can get a 99, but oh well, almost everything you said lines up with stuff in my own review.

So now we need comparisons with Muramasa and Dive 2. Heh.

Muramasa is the typical Nitro+ crazy shit to drive normal people insane. I honestly cannot enjoy most of their work even though I like action, since I truly believe their writer has some mental illness... (saya, chaos head, etc) This game is just the same old formula of trying to justify insane and stupid action with equally insane and stupid mindset. The text is vertical and in the middle of the screen just to add to the impact.

Dive 2 is great fun in itself, but do not have extreme expectations for it. Lots and lots of mecha battles. Absolutely need to build a good combo, else it becomes extremely tiring especially in the final route. The story is satisfactory and well explained at the end, although not really mind blowing.
Suggested playing method: go get a save file with all weapons mastered to start the game. Adds immensely to the fun, allows more leisure to enjoy the story, and saves about 30 hours of grind.


Edit: Btw Ixrec this has been bugging me for a while. How do you manage to finish Dive 1 yet not jump right to Dive 2 when it is out? For that matter, after finishing Alternative, why not continue onto Altered Fable right away? For me a sequel to a good game takes top priority over everything else...
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: izmosmolnar on June 14, 2010, 06:21:32 am
Yeah, no. Not at all.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Ixrec on June 14, 2010, 12:20:33 pm
Regarding Baldr Sky, it became a much lower priority as soon as it was known stratos would translate it. Considering how long it is and the fact that everyone already knows it's awesome, not a lot would be gained by me reviewing it right away.

As for MuvLuv, the fandiscs have never mattered to me and I have no reason to believe they are worth playing. After all, they're just fandiscs, not to mention Altered Fable is also very long.

For me the high priority stuff are games/franchises I know nothing about personally, don't get a lot of attention from the community, or better yet might be something I'd like to translate someday (for example, we now know I would be willing to tl Parfait; this is more useful than me saying yappari Baldr Sky 2 is awesome and Altered Fable isn't).
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: DxS on June 14, 2010, 03:53:35 pm
Regarding Baldr Sky, it became a much lower priority as soon as it was known stratos would translate it. Considering how long it is and the fact that everyone already knows it's awesome, not a lot would be gained by me reviewing it right away.

As for MuvLuv, the fandiscs have never mattered to me and I have no reason to believe they are worth playing. After all, they're just fandiscs, not to mention Altered Fable is also very long.

For me the high priority stuff are games/franchises I know nothing about personally, don't get a lot of attention from the community, or better yet might be something I'd like to translate someday (for example, we now know I would be willing to tl Parfait; this is more useful than me saying yappari Baldr Sky 2 is awesome and Altered Fable isn't).

That seems kind of boring though, doesn't that ever feel kind of annoying to you?

Well its good to know that you'd be willing to translate Parfait, even though it'd probably never happen >_<

What minimum score does a VN have to get to be considered for translation?

Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: w3g on June 14, 2010, 06:10:00 pm
Regarding Baldr Sky, it became a much lower priority as soon as it was known stratos would translate it. Considering how long it is and the fact that everyone already knows it's awesome, not a lot would be gained by me reviewing it right away.

As for MuvLuv, the fandiscs have never mattered to me and I have no reason to believe they are worth playing. After all, they're just fandiscs, not to mention Altered Fable is also very long.

For me the high priority stuff are games/franchises I know nothing about personally, don't get a lot of attention from the community, or better yet might be something I'd like to translate someday (for example, we now know I would be willing to tl Parfait; this is more useful than me saying yappari Baldr Sky 2 is awesome and Altered Fable isn't).

Wow, your game selection method sounds so much like work...  :o

But in a sense you are right. I do not go by such strict selection criteria, so I get flooded on release day every single month and get locked up for at least 15 days afterward just on new stuff. Before I know it, the next release day has already arrived. Hard to get any work done this way.

I guess the english VN community should thank you for your strictness, or they will never see any translation done.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Ixrec on June 14, 2010, 06:55:53 pm
I guess the english VN community should thank you for your strictness, or they will never see any translation done.

Whoa, I think he gets it!

And yes, having no time to do anything else is exactly what I'm afraid of.

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That seems kind of boring though, doesn't that ever feel kind of annoying to you?

Not sure what you mean, but no I'm never annoyed. My whole life is like this because I want to do far more than could possibly fit into a single day.

Also, previous post aside, personal preferences/interests/moods are still a significant factor in what order I read stuff in.

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What minimum score does a VN have to get to be considered for translation?

Read the blog a little more carefully. 8/10 is the minimum score to be considered worth translating. Ignoring games with preexisting projects, this means that the VNs I know I'm willing to translate in the future are, as of this post:
10/10 (-3): Forest
9.5/10 (+/-1): MuvLuv Alternative (lolduh)
8.5/10 (+1/-1.5): Parfait ~Chocolat Second Brew~
8.5/10 (+0.5/-1.5): Kimi ga Nozomu Eien
8/10 (+/-1): Narcissu Trilogy (referring only to the good parts of N3)
8/10 (+1/-2): Rui wa Tomo wo Yobu
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Moogy on June 15, 2010, 02:42:55 pm
Been playing Sharnoth for the past week or so; taking it easy with a chapter a night since I got kinda burned out playing so much Muvluv at once.

Starting to get pretty cool now. Plot's a bit similar to Inganock's but it has some nice variations on the formula; Mary is also a better protagonist than ギー by virtue of being female and voiced by Kawashima Rino. Kawashima is fucking awesome in Sharnoth, by the way.

Sakurai's writing is wonderful; unfortunately, I doubt there are a lot of people capable of appreciating her style. The sales of the WAB series would seem to support this idea.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: DxS on June 15, 2010, 03:04:17 pm
I guess the english VN community should thank you for your strictness, or they will never see any translation done.

Whoa, I think he gets it!

And yes, having no time to do anything else is exactly what I'm afraid of.

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That seems kind of boring though, doesn't that ever feel kind of annoying to you?

Not sure what you mean, but no I'm never annoyed. My whole life is like this because I want to do far more than could possibly fit into a single day.

Also, previous post aside, personal preferences/interests/moods are still a significant factor in what order I read stuff in.

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What minimum score does a VN have to get to be considered for translation?

Read the blog a little more carefully. 8/10 is the minimum score to be considered worth translating. Ignoring games with preexisting projects, this means that the VNs I know I'm willing to translate in the future are, as of this post:
10/10 (-3): Forest
9.5/10 (+/-1): MuvLuv Alternative (lolduh)
8.5/10 (+1/-1.5): Parfait ~Chocolat Second Brew~
8.5/10 (+0.5/-1.5): Kimi ga Nozomu Eien
8/10 (+/-1): Narcissu Trilogy (referring only to the good parts of N3)
8/10 (+1/-2): Rui wa Tomo wo Yobu

kk, sorry bout that finally found that post with all your "review guidelines" on them I wish I had read #7 before clicking on that TVtropes link last week, since i ended up wasting 2 hours in, which i was supposed to be writing my Senior Thesis just clicking on link after link, that site is a lot more addicting than i expected.

So how do you plan on picking projects from now on? I mean i know after MuvLuv you'll do Forest, but after that will it just be based on what you like the best since polling doesn't seem like it'd work anymore.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: maitrenuage on June 15, 2010, 03:58:36 pm
I haven't played a VN for 3 days now... :o
I need to be in good shape for the upcoming release of the Swan Song translation.

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Been playing Sharnoth for the past week or so; taking it easy with a chapter a night since I got kinda burned out playing so much Muvluv at once.

Starting to get pretty cool now. Plot's a bit similar to Inganock's but it has some nice variations on the formula; Mary is also a better protagonist than ギー by virtue of being female and voiced by Kawashima Rino. Kawashima is fucking awesome in Sharnoth, by the way.

Sakurai's writing is wonderful; unfortunately, I doubt there are a lot of people capable of appreciating her style. The sales of the WAB series would seem to support this idea.

(http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:1WQP0tubEecRyM:http://members.jcom.home.ne.jp/kukuno/index/gift/sharnoth01.jpg) "Ixrec, translate me...and I'll give you free lolis."
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Mohlt on June 15, 2010, 04:09:43 pm
The Maiden Rape Assault - Violent Semen Inferno. As the name implies, best VN evar.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Ixrec on June 15, 2010, 06:03:08 pm
So how do you plan on picking projects from now on? I mean i know after MuvLuv you'll do Forest, but after that will it just be based on what you like the best since polling doesn't seem like it'd work anymore.

Yeah, actual polls are just not happening again. However I do still want public input, so I'll most likely create a forum thread here or something when I want a discussion. Everything else I'm about to say will be or already has been affected by what you guys say.

I'm actually strongly considering tling Sharnoth before Forest, mostly because my lead editor, Sheeta, would like to work on it while she's still in England (we'd probably like to tl it into UK English after all). Though Forest will prolly still happen immediately after that, assuming we can work out the voice-only stuff by then.

The other thing I really want to do is give Cross Channel a second run-through (both to fix blatant mistakes and to improve the tl note spam and needlessly literal tl style) as warm-up for tackling Saihate no Ima. As far as I know, no one else has expressed serious interest in Saihate so far.

Other than those four games, I have no real plans except maybe a KimiNozo or Parfait tl. If you know of something I'm not planning to read soon that people might want me to work on, please say so.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: KoiNoDensetsu on June 15, 2010, 06:23:27 pm
Other than those four games, I have no real plans except maybe a KimiNozo or Parfait tl. If you know of something I'm not planning to read soon that people might want me to work on, please say so.

From a quick look at your list, I know I am interested in these:

-Anything by Romeo Tanaka (so Saihate, obviously)
-Hoshizora no Memoria
-Flyable Heart/Nanatsuiro Drops (more interested in Drops)
-12Riven
-Mugen Kairou
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Ixrec on June 16, 2010, 12:02:52 am
Top two I agree are of interest, the others I do not expect to get 8s, though I'll probably play them *eventually* just because.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Metarail on June 16, 2010, 12:49:42 am
Other than those four games, I have no real plans except maybe a KimiNozo or Parfait tl. If you know of something I'm not planning to read soon that people might want me to work on, please say so.

find: Ikusa Megami -> 0 results found.
So yeah, Ikusa Megami series is pretty popuplar but no translation. so check it out as people would really appreciate something from it getting translated (especially Zero and Verita). problems I could see is tough that they have pretty big gameplay parts too and IM Zero has quite ammount of rape, not that much in IM Verita tough. IM1 is way too old and average, IM2 is pretty good tough from what I have heard.

So by the time you finish with Alternative/Sharnoth/Forest and no one else has picked them up you could check them.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: maitrenuage on June 16, 2010, 01:08:15 am
Other than those four games, I have no real plans except maybe a KimiNozo or Parfait tl. If you know of something I'm not planning to read soon that people might want me to work on, please say so.

Go to Visual Novel Databese -> Click on "random visual novel" -> Find gold.

-> Nakadashi Igai wa Kousoku Ihan ~Joshi Kou Sai ・Nottori Keikaku~
http://vndb.org/v1188

Seita is a high school student. One day, he has a bad cold and is hospitalized. He overhears the fact that he is dying. He runs away from the hospital in desperation and sneaks into a school where a school festival is taken place. He wants to have a sex with as many girls as possible before dying to leave a proof of his life. "Listen! I will occupy this school festival!!". The school festival of me, by me, for me has started....

It has the best tag ever : high amounts of rape.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Ixrec on June 16, 2010, 01:19:52 am
Other than those four games, I have no real plans except maybe a KimiNozo or Parfait tl. If you know of something I'm not planning to read soon that people might want me to work on, please say so.

find: Ikusa Megami -> 0 results found.
So yeah, Ikusa Megami series is pretty popuplar but no translation. so check it out as people would really appreciate something from it getting translated (especially Zero and Verita). problems I could see is tough that they have pretty big gameplay parts too and IM Zero has quite ammount of rape, not that much in IM Verita tough. IM1 is way too old and average, IM2 is pretty good tough from what I have heard.

So by the time you finish with Alternative/Sharnoth/Forest and no one else has picked them up you could check them.

Since I have no idea if I care about Ikusa Megami, tell me which game in the series is the best (assuming I play no others first) and I will simply add that to my list without question. If I like it, then I'll go figure out how the franchise is organized.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Metarail on June 16, 2010, 01:59:22 am
Other than those four games, I have no real plans except maybe a KimiNozo or Parfait tl. If you know of something I'm not planning to read soon that people might want me to work on, please say so.

find: Ikusa Megami -> 0 results found.
So yeah, Ikusa Megami series is pretty popuplar but no translation. so check it out as people would really appreciate something from it getting translated (especially Zero and Verita). problems I could see is tough that they have pretty big gameplay parts too and IM Zero has quite ammount of rape, not that much in IM Verita tough. IM1 is way too old and average, IM2 is pretty good tough from what I have heard.

So by the time you finish with Alternative/Sharnoth/Forest and no one else has picked them up you could check them.

Since I have no idea if I care about Ikusa Megami, tell me which game in the series is the best (assuming I play no others first) and I will simply add that to my list without question. If I like it, then I'll go figure out how the franchise is organized.

Start with IM Zero, timeline wise it's the first and it's great. Altough I liked Verita bit better than Zero, but if you start with Verita while it's bit of okay to not know previous events in the first part of game, but after it reaches second part it's pretty much needed that you know what happens in Zero unless you want to be confused as fuck at some events and half of series enjoyment is to see Serikas character development (for me atleast).

Also if you don't have any idea what's the series is about yet, don't  look any info of it before you have played 3 first chapters of zero. As there is certain spoiler thats spoiled EVERYWHERE and I MEAN EVERYWHERE where you can get info about IM series in that chapter (heck it's spoiled even in OP movie of the game if you have brains or watch it frame by frame), the game afterall is prequel which explains how that spoiler came to be, ofcourse it's not the only thing the game is about. So if you don't know of it yet, it would be best to experience it without actually knowing it.
Also one thing still to note, the random encounter rate of the game can be sometimes a real bitch, but you can turn them of if you are on second playtrough, so if you don't like to waste time too much on gameplay parts it probably could be usefull to find save which gives that.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Kiru on June 16, 2010, 03:02:45 am
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I'm actually strongly considering tling Sharnoth before Forest, mostly because my lead editor, Sheeta, would like to work on it while she's still in England (we'd probably like to tl it into UK English after all). Though Forest will prolly still happen immediately after that, assuming we can work out the voice-only stuff by then.


Would be great if you translate Sharnoth as well. (I guess I could appreciate Forest more afterwards, because I couldn't say "but Sharnoth looks so much better -_-" anymore :D )
More stuff like Inganock... I'm looking forward to it. (2011/2012 probably :) )
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: DxS on June 16, 2010, 05:49:47 am
So how do you plan on picking projects from now on? I mean i know after MuvLuv you'll do Forest, but after that will it just be based on what you like the best since polling doesn't seem like it'd work anymore.

Yeah, actual polls are just not happening again. However I do still want public input, so I'll most likely create a forum thread here or something when I want a discussion. Everything else I'm about to say will be or already has been affected by what you guys say.

I'm actually strongly considering tling Sharnoth before Forest, mostly because my lead editor, Sheeta, would like to work on it while she's still in England (we'd probably like to tl it into UK English after all). Though Forest will prolly still happen immediately after that, assuming we can work out the voice-only stuff by then.

The other thing I really want to do is give Cross Channel a second run-through (both to fix blatant mistakes and to improve the tl note spam and needlessly literal tl style) as warm-up for tackling Saihate no Ima. As far as I know, no one else has expressed serious interest in Saihate so far.

Other than those four games, I have no real plans except maybe a KimiNozo or Parfait tl. If you know of something I'm not planning to read soon that people might want me to work on, please say so.

hmmm. that's nice that your still going to consider public opinion after all this has happened.

Well after Sharnorth and Forest from your list of things read and things you'll eventually read i'd personally like Parfait the most sicne that was my first choice in your last poll too.

Other than that I can only think of Itsuka Todoku Ano Sora ni, and Hikari no Valcia (its Liarsoft, why not).
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Mazyrian on June 16, 2010, 08:26:31 am
Are you interested in the Talestune things (Ludesia, Shinji Sougeki Carnival)? I've read some reviews (well, one) and got interested, and they don't seem to be very long.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: izmosmolnar on June 16, 2010, 10:49:51 am
Ixrec already got Ludesia on his list (and -atled- too, which was made by the Talestune artist and is prolly my favorite doujin game). And yeah Ludesia is great, Shinjicarnival is less so though (still has awesome music).
Still, give the original cartagra dude a bit time until the end of the year at least, who knows how hectic his life is now. If we can believe him, he already had about 15% of it translated in january though.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Ixrec on June 16, 2010, 02:12:18 pm
Other than that I can only think of Itsuka Todoku Ano Sora ni, and Hikari no Valcia (its Liarsoft, why not).

*checks*

Yep, both on my list.

And yeah izmos is right again.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Mazyrian on June 16, 2010, 03:29:44 pm
Yeah, forgot to check the blog.
And didn't know about the Ludesia project. Cool.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: DxS on June 16, 2010, 08:00:17 pm
Other than that I can only think of Itsuka Todoku Ano Sora ni, and Hikari no Valcia (its Liarsoft, why not).

*checks*

Yep, both on my list.

And yeah izmos is right again.

Of course, I wouldn't generally recommend a VN that I haven't read yet unless i've heard very good things about it.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Moogy on June 19, 2010, 03:14:18 am
Finished Sharnoth.

To put it simply, Inganock is better. Sharnoth has a great climax, but the ending drags on and lacks the punch and fantasy of Inganock's. Also, the characters in Sharnoth are on the whole less likable and more throwaway than Inganock's, with the exception of Mary and maybe Angelica.

I suppose my main complaint would be that I feel as if Sakurai just didn't take the game as far as she could have, especially compared to Inganock; there wasn't enough of a sense of accomplishment at the end for me.

Still, the plot itself is solid, Sakurai's beautiful writing never lets up, and the aesthetic design and music are simply gorgeous. And though I ended up preferring the setting of Inganock, anyone who likes alternate history or reinterpretation of fictional characters and historical figures will absolutely love Sharnoth's; the way that she managed to tie world history into the plot itself impressed me.

I guess, overall, Sharnoth doesn't feel anywhere near as "complete" as Inganock did, but it's still a good game. I definitely recommend it to anyone who liked Inganock, if only because the WAB series's approach to eroge is so wonderfully different - and thus refreshing.

Anyone who dislikes Liarsoft, Sakurai's writing, or the other games in the WAB series should stay far, far away, though. Honestly, I doubt there is a substantial amount of people able to appreciate the WAB series in general, but I suppose that's a discussion for another time.

Oh yeah, Sharnoth's OP is also fucking awesome. One of my favorites.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Mazyrian on June 19, 2010, 05:27:11 pm
Has anyone played airy[F]airy? I was playing it a while ago and found it fairly enjoyable. I love that artist (the same as Hinatabokko and Katahane, right? If I kinda like Hinatabokko is mainly because of the designs).
Anyway, I finished the first 3 routes, but stopped right before leaving the trunk for Sara's route. Am I missing much? I mean, compared with the other routes, is much better/worse, or more of the same?
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Sirf*palot on June 21, 2010, 10:14:46 am
Started Phantom of Inferno, using Media Player Classic so I coudl "save" using bookmarks. but the passwords aren't showing.

Is this going to be a problem because I heard that there are two other routes you could do when you finish the game the first time. Meaning there has to be a passwords for "completion" right?
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: AQZT on June 21, 2010, 11:46:37 am
Started Phantom of Inferno, using Media Player Classic so I coudl "save" using bookmarks. but the passwords aren't showing.

Is this going to be a problem because I heard that there are two other routes you could do when you finish the game the first time. Meaning there has to be a passwords for "completion" right?
No, there are no unlockable routes. That password that you get for completing all of the major routes (you get a 2 character part of the password for each main route you complete) only unlocks the CG set and the ability to playthe ingame music, and I think the concept artwork and trailers for the game.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Mohlt on June 22, 2010, 10:17:12 am
Swan Song :D

http://yandere.gray7.com/
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: DxS on June 22, 2010, 02:56:18 pm
Swan Song :D

http://yandere.gray7.com/

Yep, luck me since my last exam just finished earlier today, hopefully i can start soon.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: maitrenuage on June 22, 2010, 04:08:08 pm
Swan Song :D

http://yandere.gray7.com/ (http://yandere.gray7.com/)

Yep, luck me since my last exam just finished earlier today, hopefully i can start soon.
I'm already at the act 2-2 (just after the first H-scene... Takuma's gonna hate)
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: AQZT on June 22, 2010, 04:12:57 pm
Playing Unlimited now. Too soon to make judgments about it though.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Moogy on June 22, 2010, 06:12:46 pm
Playing Unlimited now. Too soon to make judgments about it though.
Enjoy an entire game of training!

But seriously, Unlimited pretty much only exists to back up Alternative, so don't expect much.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: DxS on June 22, 2010, 08:08:48 pm
Swan Song :D

http://yandere.gray7.com/ (http://yandere.gray7.com/)

Yep, luck me since my last exam just finished earlier today, hopefully i can start soon.
I'm already at the act 2-2 (just after the first H-scene... Takuma's gonna hate)

I heard its pretty depressing, which usually isn't the type of game i like, but TakaJun generally doesn't like this type of game either and he still gave it a 9.5/10 so i'm pretty sure i'll enjoy it.

Do You know how many acts there are?

I guess since exams are finished i can try to stay up late and finish as much as possible, i'll probably be done soon.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: AQZT on June 22, 2010, 09:28:59 pm
Damn, I like what's going on in UL. And it's awesome that Takeru is now voiced. He actually sounds pretty cool.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: izmosmolnar on June 23, 2010, 04:13:06 am
Swan Song has 4 large chapters.
I would say it's not as depressive as say Hello, world or Symphonic Rain. The game even has a happy sunflower end which ends on a good note, but is a bit :| . The second ending is still good because it revealse a great twist (actually you should have read the second ending too Ixrec, it's worth it for that twist.)
The first ending (normal ending) is pretty great though. I had a few issues with the game, but overall it's pretty excellent and what I loved in it that it could manage to just suck me in similarly to Saya.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Mohlt on June 23, 2010, 05:48:41 am
Personally I find Symphonic Rain's "depressing part" quite mild compared to Swan Song. Sure, SR has few nice plottwist and "not-so-happy- moments", but still...

Swan Song normal ending... wow, now that was awesome! I haven't read such fu**'ed up ending for quite some time now. (limited to eng VNs)

...departing from Swan Song station to Mul Luv station...
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: izmosmolnar on June 23, 2010, 07:02:37 am
Yeah but SS' other ending is kinda disney to be honest, while even SR's happy ending is kinda depressive.
That said neither of them comes close to "hello, world." and its Mika ending.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: KoiNoDensetsu on June 23, 2010, 09:45:27 am
Playing Unlimited and now tempted to play Swan Song.

I'm at November 3rd now. (no idea how far that is)  So far, I like EX a lot better.  UL is basically a military EX without Sumika.  EX had better scenes and comedy.  But I can't give a final opinion since I haven't seen all of UL yet.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: AQZT on June 23, 2010, 10:13:46 am
Personally, I like UL far more than Extra so far, mainly because it is actually somewhat serious, but still manages to be fun at times.
AND GODDAMNIT WHAT HAPPENED TO TAKERU'S VOICE ACTING??!!
*Cries*
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: KoiNoDensetsu on June 23, 2010, 01:04:49 pm
Personally, I like UL far more than Extra so far, mainly because it is actually somewhat serious, but still manages to be fun at times.
AND GODDAMNIT WHAT HAPPENED TO TAKERU'S VOICE ACTING??!!
*Cries*

Meh, it's not really that serious.  I guess a little more serious than EX, but it's still a slice-of-life VN. (with an unconventional miltary setting)

And I guess I am on Miki's path now that I chose to play marbles with her?  Wow, only one choice deciding which path I'm on...
A huge facepalm at the drama with Miki playing video games too much.  Combined with the melodramatic music, it was almost comical.  Worst drama ever.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: AQZT on June 23, 2010, 01:37:27 pm
Just finished everything in the current UL Patch. I really enjoyed this part far more than I rightfully should have... ::)
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: DxS on June 23, 2010, 02:04:53 pm
Swan Song has 4 large chapters.
I would say it's not as depressive as say Hello, world or Symphonic Rain. The game even has a happy sunflower end which ends on a good note, but is a bit :| . The second ending is still good because it revealse a great twist (actually you should have read the second ending too Ixrec, it's worth it for that twist.)
The first ending (normal ending) is pretty great though. I had a few issues with the game, but overall it's pretty excellent and what I loved in it that it could manage to just suck me in similarly to Saya.

Okay then that would mean that since i'm on act 4-1 i'm almost done.

Its ironic that right after i got to 4-1 in Swan Song last night a minor earthquake occurred in my living area that's a pretty weird coincidence.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: DxS on June 23, 2010, 02:05:28 pm
Just finished everything in the current UL Patch. I really enjoyed this part far more than I rightfully should have... ::)

I'm guess the patch doesn't last very long then? I guess i should just wait for the full one.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: AQZT on June 23, 2010, 02:59:18 pm
Just finished everything in the current UL Patch. I really enjoyed this part far more than I rightfully should have... ::)

I'm guess the patch doesn't last very long then? I guess i should just wait for the full one.
You probably should, considering how the patch stopped JUST before the awesome part (i.e. when they start using mechs. I believe Ix mentioned something about it in his blog).
However, I won't say that the patch is short. It's actually about half the length of the Sumika and Meiya routes in Extra. I just enjoyed it so much more than EX that I rushed through the entire thing in one day.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: DxS on June 23, 2010, 04:08:54 pm
Just finished everything in the current UL Patch. I really enjoyed this part far more than I rightfully should have... ::)

I'm guess the patch doesn't last very long then? I guess i should just wait for the full one.
You probably should, considering how the patch stopped JUST before the awesome part (i.e. when they start using mechs. I believe Ix mentioned something about it in his blog).
However, I won't say that the patch is short. It's actually about half the length of the Sumika and Meiya routes in Extra. I just enjoyed it so much more than EX that I rushed through the entire thing in one day.

hmm...Well I just finished Swan Song and that was great, maybe i'll try UL early, though i usually wait for a full patch of any game.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Moogy on June 23, 2010, 04:09:33 pm
Note: There is no actual action at any point during UL. The most you'll get is simulator training. Don't get your hopes up, kids.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Ixrec on June 23, 2010, 04:42:38 pm
So, I have found an annotated edition of both Lewis Carrol's books lying around the house, and purchased copies of Cyrano de Bergerac and Tractatus Logico-Philosophicus.

Believe it or not, this is on topic. Those of you who care already know why.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Spin569874123 on June 23, 2010, 04:56:30 pm
Go read a real book (except for Lewis Carrol because that counts). Like the Communist Manifesto or 3001 The Final Odyssey.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: AQZT on June 23, 2010, 05:19:25 pm
So, I have found an annotated edition of both Lewis Carrol's books lying around the house, and purchased copies of Cyrano de Bergerac and Tractatus Logico-Philosophicus.

Believe it or not, this is on topic. Those of you who care already know why.
Forest?
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Ixrec on June 23, 2010, 05:27:41 pm
Quote
Go read a real book (except for Lewis Carrol because that counts). Like the Communist Manifesto or 3001 The Final Odyssey.

These are perfectly real, it's just a matter of taste. I'm liking the Tractatus already, though its appeal is definitely very niche.

Communist Manifesto I'll probably get to around the same time as Atlas Shrugged. I don't think I'll ever read the Space Odyssey books, closest I plan on is Clarke's stuff.

So, I have found an annotated edition of both Lewis Carrol's books lying around the house, and purchased copies of Cyrano de Bergerac and Tractatus Logico-Philosophicus.

Believe it or not, this is on topic. Those of you who care already know why.
Forest?

That's the other reason I'm reading Lewis Carrol.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: AQZT on June 23, 2010, 05:29:06 pm
Note: There is no actual action at any point during UL. The most you'll get is simulator training. Don't get your hopes up, kids.
Jesus, JESUS, JEEEEEEESUUUUUUUUUS
/OsaDai Parody
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Moogy on June 23, 2010, 06:32:46 pm
SubaHibi's some great stuff, hope you enjoy it.

I'm playing some Baldr Force EXE at the moment. Great setting (not a lot of cyberpunk eroge out there), story's getting pretty interesting, and the battle system is addicting. Starting to see why this game is so well-regarded.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: DxS on June 24, 2010, 10:27:35 am
SubaHibi's some great stuff, hope you enjoy it.

I'm playing some Baldr Force EXE at the moment. Great setting (not a lot of cyberpunk eroge out there), story's getting pretty interesting, and the battle system is addicting. Starting to see why this game is so well-regarded.


doh. I can't believe i couldn't guess that's Ixrec was gonna play that game even when i was looking at the project page on tlwiki.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: maitrenuage on June 24, 2010, 01:42:03 pm
Finished Swan Song...

It was... wow... it trully is an utsuge.

I first went through the normal ending and I shoku by what Yuko said...
I was also shoku in the good ending for another reason.

This stor was too much for me  :-X... Now I'm going to be depressed for days (at least not as long as with Saya no Uta or Hitomi my stepsister).

I only give it a 8/10 because it was too depressing for a pure man like me lol. I want people to be happy...

... I need a light VN full of happy love and moe moe nekomimi girls... :'(
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: KoiNoDensetsu on June 24, 2010, 02:21:08 pm
Finished Swan Song...

It was... wow... it trully is an utsuge.

I first went through the normal ending and I shoku by what Yuko said...
I was also shoku in the good ending for another reason.

This stor was too much for me  :-X... Now I'm going to be depressed for days (at least not as long as with Saya no Uta or Hitomi my stepsister).

I only give it a 8/10 because it was too depressing for a pure man like me lol. I want people to be happy...

... I need a light VN full of happy love and moe moe nekomimi girls... :'(

This has convinced me: I am playing SWAN SONG now!  An emo-emo guy such as myself loves utusuge! ;D

I just hope the writer keeps the style of the Kirari normal ending.  But considering it's supposed to be really sad, I will assume that's the case.  Let's hope it makes me shed tears~

...And Hitomi being a sad game? O_O  That VN was mostly just sex scenes...  I skipped through most of the endings, and the only one that was really interesting was the one where the mom goes yandere.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: maitrenuage on June 24, 2010, 03:06:01 pm
Finished Swan Song...

It was... wow... it trully is an utsuge.

I first went through the normal ending and I shoku by what Yuko said...
I was also shoku in the good ending for another reason.

This stor was too much for me  :-X... Now I'm going to be depressed for days (at least not as long as with Saya no Uta or Hitomi my stepsister).

I only give it a 8/10 because it was too depressing for a pure man like me lol. I want people to be happy...

... I need a light VN full of happy love and moe moe nekomimi girls... :'(

This has convinced me: I am playing SWAN SONG now!  An emo-emo guy such as myself loves utusuge! ;D

I just hope the writer keeps the style of the Kirari normal ending.  But considering it's supposed to be really sad, I will assume that's the case.  Let's hope it makes me shed tears~

...And Hitomi being a sad game? O_O  That VN was mostly just sex scenes...  I skipped through most of the endings, and the only one that was really interesting was the one where the mom goes yandere.
I didn't say those were sad VN (nakige) but "depressing" VN (utsuge). It's totaly different.
You won't cry in Swan Song but you'll have this disgusting feeling inside of you during all the game... the kind of feeling that makes you ask "why ? WHHHYYYYYYY ??????? everytime something bad happen... Then you hope you just made the wrong choices and there is a better path but... there isn't).
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: KoiNoDensetsu on June 24, 2010, 07:36:11 pm
Finished Swan Song...

It was... wow... it trully is an utsuge.

I first went through the normal ending and I shoku by what Yuko said...
I was also shoku in the good ending for another reason.

This stor was too much for me  :-X... Now I'm going to be depressed for days (at least not as long as with Saya no Uta or Hitomi my stepsister).

I only give it a 8/10 because it was too depressing for a pure man like me lol. I want people to be happy...

... I need a light VN full of happy love and moe moe nekomimi girls... :'(

This has convinced me: I am playing SWAN SONG now!  An emo-emo guy such as myself loves utusuge! ;D

I just hope the writer keeps the style of the Kirari normal ending.  But considering it's supposed to be really sad, I will assume that's the case.  Let's hope it makes me shed tears~

...And Hitomi being a sad game? O_O  That VN was mostly just sex scenes...  I skipped through most of the endings, and the only one that was really interesting was the one where the mom goes yandere.
I didn't say those were sad VN (nakige) but "depressing" VN (utsuge). It's totaly different.
You won't cry in Swan Song but you'll have this disgusting feeling inside of you during all the game... the kind of feeling that makes you ask "why ? WHHHYYYYYYY ??????? everytime something bad happen... Then you hope you just made the wrong choices and there is a better path but... there isn't).

Ah, I see.  So it's basically like Saya no Uta sadness?
But TRUE utsuge is what makes me cry.  Kana Little Sister made me feel like shit after finishing it, and it's the only VN that genuinely made me cry. (though replaying Nekoko and Mizuki's path made me shed a tear or two...)  Most nakige aren't that sad for me.

Sad VNs for me:

-Kana
-Ever17 (certain paths.  Coco route was also so beautiful that it made me teary-eyed)
-KGNE (lol obviously)
-KiraKira (KIRARI NORMAL PATH ONLY!!!)
-Private Nurse (omg Maria path was... amazing... ;_;)
-YMK
Season of the Sakura (Ruri path; not sad but beautiful)
-MOON.

...Blah, I better stop myself.  I am basically just listing all of the VNs I consider to be "good". xD;;  But a nakige has to be really good for it to be potentially tear-jerking for me. (as seen in YMK)
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: KoiNoDensetsu on June 24, 2010, 09:45:28 pm
Okay, I finished all that is translated of UL.  Unless things become incredible in the second half, I like EX better.  UL has worse pacing, less comedy, and no Sumika.  UL is basically a slightly more serious EX with a military setting, so the plot still isn't that amazing.  This change of theme is a flaw in itself because a military VN like this shouldn't just be talking.  Like Moogy said, it's just a "training" VN. (minus the BDSM =P)
H-scenes would have improved this greatly.  Damn age for using those tease CGs of Mikoto!  If only his/her hair was less atrocious, he/she would make a perfect trap...

And even the non-translated parts have chapter image glitches.  LOLWTF?
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Ixrec on June 24, 2010, 09:59:11 pm
And even the non-translated parts have chapter image glitches.  LOLWTF?

Practically everyone on staff contributed to that epic fail. It's being fixed.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: DxS on June 25, 2010, 10:29:25 am
Finished Swan Song yesterday it was good, but it wasn't as depressing as i expected and i surprisingly like the depressing Normal ending better than the non-depressing Good ending the whole speech and the talk Tsukasa had at the end with Yuka were just better than the convenient good End available.  It pretty much seems like they they added the Good Ending just in case some people were too depressed with the Normal Ending.

Maybe i should make a vndb account, no one would probably care about what scores i give games, but it'd at least give me a place to put scores down for each game i play.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Sirf*palot on June 25, 2010, 11:17:11 am
Oh god, so many slight spoilers of what to expect at the end of SWAN SONG...Gonna stay away from the board until I finish lol....
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: KoiNoDensetsu on June 25, 2010, 11:31:54 am
I started SWAN SONG last night.  I played right until the end of the prologue. (or "PROLOGO" lol)  The scene where the retarded girl's sister dies was emotional.  But the protagonist's monologues and explanation of events was tedious. (such as how he went into explicit detail about running away during the earthquake)  It has potential, so I'll see where this VN goes.  I just hope the rest of the story doesn't move so slowly.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Moogy on June 25, 2010, 05:59:40 pm
the protagonist's monologues and explanation of events was tedious. (such as how he went into explicit detail about running away during the earthquake)
Perhaps Setoguchi is not the writer for you.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: KoiNoDensetsu on June 25, 2010, 09:03:10 pm
the protagonist's monologues and explanation of events was tedious. (such as how he went into explicit detail about running away during the earthquake)
Perhaps Setoguchi is not the writer for you.

Perhaps, but I hope not.  CARNIVAL really interests me.

As long as SWAN SONG ends up having a good plot, I can ignore the stretched out writing.  I assume the rest of the story won't just consist of running from earthquakes anyway.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: izmosmolnar on June 28, 2010, 04:35:25 am
I'm playing Kusari now. Himawari just frustrated me. I dunno I go back to it, but it was not enjoyable.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Sirf*palot on June 28, 2010, 12:22:51 pm
Finished SWAN SONG, definately liked the normal ending (despite all the downer material) over the good ending. The only thing that bothered me was SPOILER ALERT
 Takumas dev. from compassionate/shy otaku to evil nercrophiliac/rapist. It definately would have been better for Nozomi to have actually killed him lol (yandere?) Kinda surprised that she was actually in love with him, I always suspected that she was only sleeping with him out of fear/ulterior motives to get what she wants.

The VN felt a little underwhelming though. Probably b/c I finished it pretty quick.

BTW could some tell me the hex key for the better SPOILERS color, that one can use [edit: changed it for you]
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: izmosmolnar on June 28, 2010, 04:34:39 pm
[ color=#E7EAEF ]spoiler[ /color ]
Remove the spaces.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Moogy on June 29, 2010, 01:12:50 am
Coming up on the last route of Baldr Force EXE right now... great game, can't wait to see how it all plays out in the end.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: maitrenuage on June 29, 2010, 02:57:33 am
I've started playing Fate Stay Night.
It's going to be long...

(http://hfr-rehost.net/http://www.thomashan.com/fun/fun_pics/long_cat_v.jpg)
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: DxS on June 29, 2010, 11:44:30 am
I've started playing Fate Stay Night.
It's going to be long...

(http://hfr-rehost.net/http://www.thomashan.com/fun/fun_pics/long_cat_v.jpg)

yea really long, lol oh, try to get all the bad ending, use a walkthrough if necessary the bad endings are generally goo what if scenario's and the Taiga Dojo's are hilarious.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: AQZT on June 29, 2010, 02:39:03 pm
I've started playing Fate Stay Night.
It's going to be long...

(http://hfr-rehost.net/http://www.thomashan.com/fun/fun_pics/long_cat_v.jpg)

yea really long, lol oh, try to get all the bad ending, use a walkthrough if necessary the bad endings are generally goo what if scenario's and the Taiga Dojo's are hilarious.
Ugh, those bad endings. You will NOT understand the idea of a completely pointless and meaningless death if you do not play them.
The only reason they are worth playing is for the absolutely hilarious tiger dojo scenes you get after clearing them.
Oh, and get the false bad ending too that one was the best of all.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Ixrec on June 29, 2010, 02:42:50 pm
Why does it feel like the cat gets longer every time someone quotes him?
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Spin569874123 on June 29, 2010, 02:48:16 pm
Is that real? Unedited?
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: AQZT on June 29, 2010, 02:51:21 pm
I've started playing Fate Stay Night.
It's going to be long...

(http://hfr-rehost.net/http://www.thomashan.com/fun/fun_pics/long_cat_v.jpg)

yea really long, lol oh, try to get all the bad ending, use a walkthrough if necessary the bad endings are generally goo what if scenario's and the Taiga Dojo's are hilarious.
Ugh, those bad endings. You will NOT understand the idea of a completely pointless and meaningless death if you do not play them.
The only reason they are worth playing is for the absolutely hilarious tiger dojo scenes you get after clearing them.
Oh, and get the false bad ending too that one was the best of all.
Why does it feel like the cat gets longer every time someone quotes him?
BECAUSE HE DOES!!!
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Moogy on July 02, 2010, 03:59:38 am
Finished Baldr Force EXE. Definitely going in my top three.

It has the best route structure, plot progression, and pacing in general of any eroge I've ever played. It's absolutely insane how far the game takes you in terms of the story, and the amount of care and detail put into the routes is highly impressive; you really get a sense for how much every choice affects the story, the characters, and the game world. By the end of the game, I was looking back on the first few routes with awe, wondering how the hell I got from that to this. This is definitely a game that uses its medium to the fullest extent; only SubaHibi and Tsukihime can even really begin to compete in terms of structure.

The plot itself is awesome too. There's pretty much literally never a dull moment and all of the routes past the first two are increasingly intense and jam-packed with developments, revelations, and heart-pounding action. I liked pretty much all of the heroines and side characters, too, which is a bit of a rarity. Great villains, too - they've got the "love to hate" thing down pat.

Also, BFE distinguishes it from the massive piles of eroge with shitty, tacked-on "gameplay" by actually being, well, a game. The battle system is unique, well-balanced, and perfectly implemented into the story itself (what's more exciting than actually playing out a dramatic, high-stakes battle yourself?). I hear that Sky improves upon the gameplay quite a bit, so I'll have to check that out sometime too.

Unfortunately, despite how finely tuned the gameplay and scenario are, BFE definitely shows its age. Kikuchi's art is almost unrecognizably ancient (yes, Force and Sky have the same artist), the game runs at 640x480 and has issues with windowing, fugly tachie abound, the font is horrible, and the music is pretty damn generic save for the OP, which I'm sure you've all heard a few thousand times. If there's any game that needs a remake, it's this one.

Also, the voice acting in the original PC version is generally quite poor; I used the PS2 version voices to play it myself, though, and those are full of huge names like Noto, Ohtsuka, Kawasumi, Hoshi, etc. Really quite a good cast and there are some great performances in there, so I was satisfied on that front.

In spite of its age, BFE is basically one hell of a game and one hell of an experience. I really recommend it to anyone who likes action titles, sci-fi, cyberpunk, or just plain awesome games in general.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: KoiNoDensetsu on July 03, 2010, 01:33:57 pm
I tried Reika Bitch Training.

This is how it went for me:

"That tsundere girl is moe. [...]  Poor shoujo...  I hope there is a true-love ending! :'( [...] (during the first few "normal" scenes) Woah, this is actually sexy... O_O [...]  (soon after) WHY THE HELL IS A PIG RAPING HER?!?!?!"

...Never again. >_>;;

(I also tried a few other better sexromps)

I should get back to SwanSong since it's short.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Kiru on July 04, 2010, 02:07:54 am
I should get back to SwanSong since it's short.

It's not short. Or at least I don't call ~15hours short. :D
Anyway, I'm currently reading it as well. So far I like it... but the first h-scene makes no sense whatsoever. Damn, so out of place...
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: KoiNoDensetsu on July 04, 2010, 10:16:02 am
I should get back to SwanSong since it's short.

It's not short. Or at least I don't call ~15hours short. :D
Anyway, I'm currently reading it as well. So far I like it... but the first h-scene makes no sense whatsoever. Damn, so out of place...

Yeah, I agree with the H-scene...  I got passed that part last night and was like "Why the fuck are they having sex now? >_>"  It was so abrupt and mood-killing.

I like SS so far, but I don't see it as "masterpiece" yet.  Good writing, but nothing spectacular.  I guess the last chapter must be amazing.
But still, the characters are so much deeper than in KiraKira.  That goes for just about everything in SS, actually.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Kiru on July 04, 2010, 12:13:32 pm
I should get back to SwanSong since it's short.

It's not short. Or at least I don't call ~15hours short. :D
Anyway, I'm currently reading it as well. So far I like it... but the first h-scene makes no sense whatsoever. Damn, so out of place...


I like SS so far, but I don't see it as "masterpiece" yet.  Good writing, but nothing spectacular.  I guess the last chapter must be amazing.
But still, the characters are so much deeper than in KiraKira.  That goes for just about everything in SS, actually.

I think SS will be something between 7/10 and 9/10 for me. Depends on how the "pairings" play out (bad start already with the first h-scene) or how important that actually is in the end and how the other h-scenes are integrated. That is, if the plot stays at least good of course.
Anyway, it's certainly not bad to have college students as protagonists/heroines once in a while. Humor and innuendo (or better: the whole interaction) certainly does play out differently than with highschool-students. (e.g. Ch 2-2 showed this pretty good.)
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: DxS on July 05, 2010, 10:56:59 am
For me it was the normal ending, that made Swan Song great, sure there was a good ending but that was more of a convenient ending for people who were depressed from the normal ending. The way the normal ending ended was really touching and that last chapter is probably why i liked Swan Song so much.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: JONJONAUG on July 05, 2010, 11:27:22 pm
The rest of the H scenes fit within the story a lot better, it's mostly the first one that feels like it doesn't belong.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: DxS on July 06, 2010, 09:19:01 am
The rest of the H scenes fit within the story a lot better, it's mostly the first one that feels like it doesn't belong.

This is true and really although the first H-Scene was placed in a strange position Swan Songs is one of those game that needed H-Scenes to fully flush out the story.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Mirrored on July 06, 2010, 04:45:11 pm
Playing: Umineko. I've already played it and have a pretty solid grasp, but I want to have a working solution for the mystery before I see episode 6 and then see what revisions are necessary. Plus it's the best VN I have ever played, so it warrants a second run-through.

To Play: Swan Song. I am waiting until MuvLuv is fully translated before beginning it so it will likely be played during my winter vacation. I'll probably finish Sharin No Kuni after Swan Song.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: KoiNoDensetsu on July 07, 2010, 12:33:01 pm
I'm on Act 3-3 of Swan Song.
It continues to be much better than KiraKira. (thank god)  I like all of the main characters, especially Hibari.
It does still have the problem of having dialogue that isn't completely necessary.  Exciting scene, talking about what to do next, then another exciting (or mildly depressing) scene.  I also hate how so much is goes on at once and then it suddenly changes to a new topic. (e.g. fleshing out Tsukasa's past, then hotsprings, then rape victim, then religious organization, etc.)  The different plots are mostly related in some way, but they just don't fit well like in Ever17.  I really don't see Swan Song exceeding that.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Ixrec on July 07, 2010, 01:24:12 pm
What you're referring to I'd just call realism. The less realistic approach of Ever17 only works because the story itself happens to demand that it be structured with laser-precision and airtight seals. I can definitely see preferring that over a more realistic structure though.

As for unnecessary dialogue, I hereby wick you (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/RealisticDictionIsUnrealistic).

More seriously, glad to see you're liking it.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Moogy on July 07, 2010, 01:52:22 pm
Setoguchi understands how people think and how they discuss things with one another. Put simply, they're not robots who proceed from point A to point B in some pre-defined plot, concerning themselves only with "relevant" things. Anyone who can't understand this won't be able to enjoy his games. Well, I guess Swan Song probably has some "mass appeal," but I can't see anyone who gets fed up with "random" narration and dialogue enjoying Kira Kira or especially CARNIVAL.

Man, I need to get back to playing CARNIVAL. Lost it when my HDD crashed and never really got back into it... Maybe after I finish Kourin no Machi and Forest.

I got to the fourth and final chapter of Kourin no Machi last night and am planning to finish it today.

It's a bit of a strange game. The first three chapters are basically just an above-average moege revolving around the characters forming a kenjutsu club and trying to beat their rival team - not exactly what you'd expect from a game billed as the sequel to Sharin no Kuni, right? Bamboo Blade made me a fan of kendou and the like, so I enjoyed the club stuff a fair deal, but found the rest mostly pretty boring; anyone who doesn't care about the sport will probably find the first three chapters even less interesting than they would be otherwise.

Now that I've gotten past the twist and reached the part of the game that's a sequel to Sharin, though... Well, I can tell you now, it's not going to be anywhere as good as Sharin, that's for sure. That said, the twist/revelation scene was by far the best part of the game so far, and thus I'm looking forward to what the game has to offer me in the fourth chapter, especially since I hear it's basically Sharin fanservice. (Well, given that the chapter's title is 車輪の国, I suppose that's to be expected...)
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: DxS on July 07, 2010, 03:19:23 pm
That's surprising, when i heard that Kourin no Machi  was a sequel to Sharin, i though more a  spiritual sequel than anything, with it taking place in the same world, but hearing that it has info that a direct sequel would have is intriguing.

I wonder if we'll ever hear about what happened to Houzuki after his bit in the Fandisk.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Moogy on July 07, 2010, 06:13:08 pm
Without spoiling anything: there are direct references to Houzuki, Ari, and Kenichi in Kourin no Machi.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Moogy on July 08, 2010, 12:39:26 am
Annnddd finished Kourin...

It doesn't drag the Sharin name through the mud or anything, but it's just... lacking, I suppose would be the word.

Like, Kourin shows that you can take the Sharin universe in a totally different direction and make sequels/spinoffs that aren't just milking, but there's a severe lack of impact compared to Sharin itself. The fourth chapter goes so far as to mimic the endgame of Sharin and Yuukyuu, but it just can't even hope to match them.

Overall, it's not a bad game, but they could have wrought much more out of the concept than they did.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: KoiNoDensetsu on July 08, 2010, 01:43:28 pm
Setoguchi understands how people think and how they discuss things with one another. Put simply, they're not robots who proceed from point A to point B in some pre-defined plot, concerning themselves only with "relevant" things. Anyone who can't understand this won't be able to enjoy his games. Well, I guess Swan Song probably has some "mass appeal," but I can't see anyone who gets fed up with "random" narration and dialogue enjoying Kira Kira or especially CARNIVAL.

Realistic approaches to writing is fine.  I hate when random plot points are just thrown out of nowhere without any realism. (coughAngelBeatscough)  But I don't need to see the characters talking about trivial things like buying more cigarettes or what soup to eat.  Or at least to the extent SS brings it out to be.  The tempo just changes too quickly from "exciting", "drawn out talks", "preparation for exciting scene", "excitement", "more talking".  Ever17 handled this well and it kept the entire story engrossing.  The "trivial" things weren't too long and the characters still felt human.

I do like how SS switches views between characters though.  That brings some feeling of realism into the story.  But I still have no reason to care about any of the characters.  Excluding a brief scene with Tsukasa, none of the characters' pasts have been revealed and they just go along with what's happening.  I don't feel attached to them like I did in Kana.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Gore on July 09, 2010, 01:09:16 am
Played quite a bit during my break, one notable game was そして明日の世界より――. Definitely worth the 9 I gave it.

There is one song on it that I absolutely love too, as in one of my top 10 favorite bgms.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Moogy on July 09, 2010, 02:03:58 am
I thought Asuseka was pretty terrible. I played most of the common route and then ended up dropping it; I couldn't handle the poorly-written melodrama (herp derp, I'm gonna walk to literally everywhere on the island and then have a long, maudlin flashback about THE GOOD TIMES I SPENT WITH MY PALS THERE and this scene will literally never and and did I mention that I am literally emo about not dying?) and lack of action (yep, let's repeat the same plot devices over and over again, maybe they'll be more interesting this time) any longer. It had potential at first, but it ended up completely exhausting my patience. だりぃー

It has absolutely wonderful artwork and backgrounds, though. Music isn't bad either.

I'm playing Forest now. This game has wonderful writing (http://img121.imageshack.us/img121/9506/07082010235659.jpg) and a literally fantastic aesthetic/atmosphere (http://img641.imageshack.us/img641/6312/07092010013554.jpg). I'm very, very intrigued so far and was hardly able to put it down earlier tonight.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: izmosmolnar on July 09, 2010, 03:02:22 am
Yeah I gave up on Asuseka too. It's just badly awful handled emodrama (Aoba's route that is) with irritating protagonist who blocks down as soon as Aoba goes all slutty (GEEZ WHAT TO DO NOW???), and then someone interrupts them before any of them does anything. This scene is repeated like 5 times. Add to that how Yuuhi is shoveled down into your throat far too much (I hated her apart of that one particular scene), and the game is unmotivating as fuck to read (I mean terribly, I just did random shit due to being bored after ten minutes). I really was disappointed with that game, especially after what I expected it to be. Bloody hell the damned asteroid doesn't even matter at all! It wasted so much potential with that shit. If you want to read how apocalypse crisis is handled properly, read "Hello, world." instead.
Yeah the artwork is awesome though, in fact it's in my top3 of gorgeous art. Couldn't decide which I'd choose between this and Kara no Shoujo.

Edit: so many points are wrong with your post about SS Koi that it amazes me.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Mazyrian on July 09, 2010, 09:24:13 am
Finished Swan Song after a comparatively slow start.
Wow the Normal Ending (and all the game, really). The kind of condensed despair and tragedy I like to see from time to time. I also found very interesting Takuma's corruption; even if at the end he is absolutely despicable, he must be one the most interesting character.
As for the Good End... as others said, kinda meh. A little too convenient. I'm all for happy endings, but this feels particularly dull, and the only thing it accomplishes is diminishing the impact of the normal end by diminishing its inevitability. I liked better some of the bad endings, at least the one where Tsukasa stays with Taeko (I guess until the school kills them all, at least), and the one where he dies in the school attack in the temple and Yuka suicides (specially this one, which was actually the first ending I got, though only because I read wrong the walkthrough).
And that Taeko's twist didn't really added anything; only explained something that really didn't needed explanation (at least considering how many other, more intriguing things are left in the dark -not that is specially bad, at least in this game).
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: KoiNoDensetsu on July 09, 2010, 11:25:31 am
Edit: so many points are wrong with your post about SS Koi that it amazes me.

Subjective opinions can't be wrong.  It's my true opinion.

Continuing SS.  I think I'm on 3-7 now.  I agree with most of what is being said in this thread: http://vndb.org/t693
Takuma's transformation is unrealistic and too fast.  SS had a good start, but now it is just getting dull.  Though the scene where Shin asked out Hibari was presented well.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Ixrec on July 09, 2010, 11:55:41 am
Taking half the game ie months is too long for a personality transformation in a guy who was mentally unstable and self-loathing to begin with.

Riiiiiiight.

Also we could make a Swan Song thread if these spoiler tags are annoying anyone.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: KoiNoDensetsu on July 09, 2010, 11:58:25 am
Taking half the game ie months is too long for a personality transformation in a guy who was mentally unstable and self-loathing to begin with.

Riiiiiiight.

It just felt too sudden.  He suddenly changed from otaku to crazed madman.  There should have at least been a scene with his perspective where we really get to see his thoughts just... snap.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Sheeta on July 09, 2010, 12:01:34 pm
Taking half the game ie months is too long for a personality transformation in a guy who was mentally unstable and self-loathing to begin with.

Riiiiiiight.

It just felt too sudden.  He suddenly changed from otaku to crazed madman.  There should have at least been a scene with his perspective where we really get to see his thoughts just... snap.
Then everyone would see it coming, and it'd be pretty lame.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Ixrec on July 09, 2010, 12:03:25 pm
Taking half the game ie months is too long for a personality transformation in a guy who was mentally unstable and self-loathing to begin with.

Riiiiiiight.

It just felt too sudden.  He suddenly changed from otaku to crazed madman.  There should have at least been a scene with his perspective where we really get to see his thoughts just... snap.

Perhaps you refer to the time skip. In which case, there's no argument there (I very much expected him to be somehow crazier afterward, I was just shocked by how much so).
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: KoiNoDensetsu on July 09, 2010, 12:09:12 pm
Well I just didn't find it shocking.  I would have seen it more shocking/disturbing if we could have seen his psyche before it broke.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: DxS on July 10, 2010, 01:32:47 pm
Well I just didn't find it shocking.  I would have seen it more shocking/disturbing if we could have seen his psyche before it broke.

I dunno i felt that it all worked well because we saw his point of view when he was just an innocent scared otaku and then we saw him change and it was shocking because of how different he seemed.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: KoiNoDensetsu on July 10, 2010, 03:06:01 pm
Well I just didn't find it shocking.  I would have seen it more shocking/disturbing if we could have seen his psyche before it broke.

I dunno i felt that it all worked well because we saw his point of view when he was just an innocent scared otaku and then we saw him change and it was shocking because of how different he seemed.

That's what I'm talking about.  There was no real progression between "otaku that is pissed at rapists" to "insane sadistic rapist that is worse than the rapists he previously despised".  It just... happened.  If the writer wanted to make him go insane, he should have given us Takuma's perspective and thoughts when he snapped.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Moogy on July 12, 2010, 05:55:59 pm
Finished Forest.

”わかるか、アマモリ?空き缶の中にはクッキー!物語の中には「キャラ」だ!”
”こんなくだらない俺たちを想像しやがった頭のおかしいやつが、どっかにいるなら!そいつの幸運を祈ってやろうぜ!”
”そいつを想像したやつも!そのまた外にいるやつも!いつまでも!幸せに!暮らすがいい!”

言葉って、こんなに通じないんだなあ!
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Moogy on July 22, 2010, 01:14:28 pm
I played Moekan (http://vndb.org/v3139)... what the fuck, man. Weirdest game I've ever played. Pretty cool if you like nekketsu stuff, at least.

Probably has the most ridiculously overpowered protagonist in eroge history, too. He's literally powerful enough to destroy the world and an entire continent ended up sinking because of a battle he participated in in the past. The villain is crazily overpowered too, some cool fight scenes if you can get behind that sort of thing.

It's by Scaji, the guy who wrote SubaHibi, if you were wondering.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: DxS on July 22, 2010, 07:53:45 pm
I played Moekan (http://vndb.org/v3139)... what the fuck, man. Weirdest game I've ever played. Pretty cool if you like nekketsu stuff, at least.

Probably has the most ridiculously overpowered protagonist in eroge history, too. He's literally powerful enough to destroy the world and an entire continent ended up sinking because of a battle he participated in in the past. The villain is crazily overpowered too, some cool fight scenes if you can get behind that sort of thing.

It's by Scaji, the guy who wrote SubaHibi, if you were wondering.

did not expect crazy battles and super-powered characters based on that cover.

More interstingly, i ended up clicking on LosS's account from the Moekan page and holy shit he's played over 700 VNs...That's mind boggling, i'm pretty amazed that he's managed to played so many.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Ixrec on July 22, 2010, 08:13:58 pm
I played Moekan (http://vndb.org/v3139)... what the fuck, man. Weirdest game I've ever played. Pretty cool if you like nekketsu stuff, at least.

Probably has the most ridiculously overpowered protagonist in eroge history, too. He's literally powerful enough to destroy the world and an entire continent ended up sinking because of a battle he participated in in the past. The villain is crazily overpowered too, some cool fight scenes if you can get behind that sort of thing.

It's by Scaji, the guy who wrote SubaHibi, if you were wondering.

did not expect crazy battles and super-powered characters based on that cover.

More interstingly, i ended up clicking on LosS's account from the Moekan page and holy shit he's played over 700 VNs...That's mind boggling, i'm pretty amazed that he's managed to played so many.

I'm pretty sure he hasn't actually played all of them. I know at least once he gave a score based on a game's trial.

Sadly, no idea how many of the 700 that accounts for.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: DxS on July 22, 2010, 08:35:53 pm
I played Moekan (http://vndb.org/v3139)... what the fuck, man. Weirdest game I've ever played. Pretty cool if you like nekketsu stuff, at least.

Probably has the most ridiculously overpowered protagonist in eroge history, too. He's literally powerful enough to destroy the world and an entire continent ended up sinking because of a battle he participated in in the past. The villain is crazily overpowered too, some cool fight scenes if you can get behind that sort of thing.

It's by Scaji, the guy who wrote SubaHibi, if you were wondering.

did not expect crazy battles and super-powered characters based on that cover.

More interstingly, i ended up clicking on LosS's account from the Moekan page and holy shit he's played over 700 VNs...That's mind boggling, i'm pretty amazed that he's managed to played so many.

I'm pretty sure he hasn't actually played all of them. I know at least once he gave a score based on a game's trial.

Sadly, no idea how many of the 700 that accounts for.

That seems rather unfair though i guess it does explain that ridiculously high amount of voted.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Ixrec on July 22, 2010, 10:33:46 pm
I played Moekan (http://vndb.org/v3139)... what the fuck, man. Weirdest game I've ever played. Pretty cool if you like nekketsu stuff, at least.

Probably has the most ridiculously overpowered protagonist in eroge history, too. He's literally powerful enough to destroy the world and an entire continent ended up sinking because of a battle he participated in in the past. The villain is crazily overpowered too, some cool fight scenes if you can get behind that sort of thing.

It's by Scaji, the guy who wrote SubaHibi, if you were wondering.

did not expect crazy battles and super-powered characters based on that cover.

More interstingly, i ended up clicking on LosS's account from the Moekan page and holy shit he's played over 700 VNs...That's mind boggling, i'm pretty amazed that he's managed to played so many.

I'm pretty sure he hasn't actually played all of them. I know at least once he gave a score based on a game's trial.

Sadly, no idea how many of the 700 that accounts for.

That seems rather unfair though i guess it does explain that ridiculously high amount of voted.

It annoys me only because he doesn't indicate which ones he's actually played (admittedly, you'd have to edit the games' statuses one at a time, so I can see why he doesn't want to bother).
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: X-Calibar on July 23, 2010, 05:14:10 pm
Just finished playing the Katahane trial in english...  ;D
A lovely game...   I hope the entire story gets translated!  It was over too fast..  :-[

I was swiftly caught up in the easy-going rhythm... and switching perspectives was a great way of balancing character types...  Alone they fall... together they rise!

Anyways, can't wait to read the kurohane(?) side of the story ...
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: yeah321 on July 24, 2010, 01:09:36 pm
Just finished a play through of Para-sol, despite it's serious prologue, it had lots of daily slice of life in the middle which is a bit  unexpected. The concept of the story is nice and intriguing but it would be better if they didn't drag it with food talks. There are quite a number of fight scenes yet there is a pitiful amount of nicely drawn fight scene CGs, the only single one good fight scene I could remember is at the prologue(with the werewolves), why can't the whole game be like that too, I can't help but feel deceived. Seriously, when I started it, the first 30minutes of reading, it felt like it could be a masterpiece, everything went downhill from then.

The story shines at the near end, and the start. Can't say I'm not disappointed,  but it's still not bad either.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Mohlt on July 24, 2010, 04:03:13 pm
Just finished Moero Downhill Night 2. Nice CG movies as in first game, but still it's VN without an essence.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Kyon_Geass on July 26, 2010, 08:48:54 pm
Was planning on finishing Oretsuba the 29th, so I could play After Story the next day, but got hooked and finished it today, if I need to say something, that would be: AFTER STORY FUCKING WHERE?!
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: KoiNoDensetsu on July 27, 2010, 10:01:42 am
Starting Unlimited again now that the full-patch has been released~

Hm, I don't know whether to pick Miki or Mikoto on my first run-through...  Miki is lolimoe, and Mikoto has the trap appeal. (though "his" hair is horrendous)  But those H tease scenes earlier in UL were so sexy...  Bleh.

Anyway, I just saw the female suits in-game.
WTF?  They are so ridiculous. >_>  I mean, it would be okay for a fandisc with parody and comedy, but it's ridiculous in a VN that is supposed to be taken (relatively) seriously.
It hasn't shown Takeru's suit in-game yet, but I think I remember seeing a screen of it somewhere.  I guess the guys get to stay modest when in suit? (ignoring the fact that Takeru is the only male in the UL universe...  Did the XY gene somehow die-out in the UL universe?)  Pretty sexist...
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Moogy on July 27, 2010, 10:20:25 am
There's a reason for the training suit being so lol but it's not explained until Alternative. You'll get to actual pilot suits that don't look so ridiculous in that anyway.

Also, the branches in Unlimited are truly, truly pointless. I wouldn't even bother unless you have a lot of free time for some reason. Just do Meiya.

Anyway, I've been playing Kusarihime the past few days, should be able to finish it today. It's incredibly good - way better than I was expecting, really. Meteor really is an amazing writer. Probably the best atmosphere of any game I've ever played. I have to say though, it's really more similar to Higurashi than to Saya no Uta... If Umineko ripped off Forest, then Higurashi definitely ripped off Kusarihime, lol.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: KoiNoDensetsu on July 27, 2010, 10:31:07 am
Well, I'm at least looking at the H-scenes if I get too bored with the supposedly terrible branching.  Plus, I'm the type of person that will want to complete everything in a VN.

But that's good that the suits have some sort of excuse for being in the game.  Though I can't help but feel it will be contrived. (since fan-service makes good plot points and all that)
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: kViN on July 27, 2010, 12:20:15 pm
(ignoring the fact that Takeru is the only male in the UL universe...  Did the XY gene somehow die-out in the UL universe?)  Pretty sexist...

(Ignoring the fact that it's explicitly said a few times how there's a lot of females in the army because the males were the first to die fighting against the BETA).
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: XenoArt on July 27, 2010, 05:45:04 pm
Also gonna finish Unlimited along with Moero 2 and Raidy 2.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: KoiNoDensetsu on July 27, 2010, 06:12:14 pm
(ignoring the fact that Takeru is the only male in the UL universe...  Did the XY gene somehow die-out in the UL universe?)  Pretty sexist...

(Ignoring the fact that it's explicitly said a few times how there's a lot of females in the army because the males were the first to die fighting against the BETA).

Still no excuse.  That's the kind of explanation you would see in a "Mass Destruction Moe H!!! - Pregnancy Outbreak?!?!?" nukige.

But males apparently are showing up now that I have played more! (though they are, of course, minor characters. lol)

(http://i750.photobucket.com/albums/xx148/KoiNoDensetsu/otokodesuka.jpg)

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I'm finishing UL pretty fast.  [spoiler]I just got past the scene where Miki saves everyone by shooting that canon thing. (can't remember the name orz;;)[/spoiler]  That scene was really great.  I can just see how epic MLA will be.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: kViN on July 27, 2010, 06:22:05 pm
(ignoring the fact that Takeru is the only male in the UL universe...  Did the XY gene somehow die-out in the UL universe?)  Pretty sexist...

(Ignoring the fact that it's explicitly said a few times how there's a lot of females in the army because the males were the first to die fighting against the BETA).

Still no excuse.  That's the kind of explanation you would see in a "Mass Destruction Moe H!!! - Pregnancy Outbreak?!?!?" nukige.

Go read those then, since you don't seem capable of understanding more complex games.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: KoiNoDensetsu on July 27, 2010, 06:38:09 pm
(ignoring the fact that Takeru is the only male in the UL universe...  Did the XY gene somehow die-out in the UL universe?)  Pretty sexist...

(Ignoring the fact that it's explicitly said a few times how there's a lot of females in the army because the males were the first to die fighting against the BETA).

Still no excuse.  That's the kind of explanation you would see in a "Mass Destruction Moe H!!! - Pregnancy Outbreak?!?!?" nukige.

Go read those then, since you don't seem capable of understanding more complex games.

I am.  I'm reading MLU!  It has the "all men are dead so impregnate the planet's women" trope, minus the pregnancy! ;D (though I haven't finished it, so who knows...)
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: XenoArt on July 27, 2010, 06:56:09 pm
(ignoring the fact that Takeru is the only male in the UL universe...  Did the XY gene somehow die-out in the UL universe?)  Pretty sexist...

(Ignoring the fact that it's explicitly said a few times how there's a lot of females in the army because the males were the first to die fighting against the BETA).

Still no excuse.  That's the kind of explanation you would see in a "Mass Destruction Moe H!!! - Pregnancy Outbreak?!?!?" nukige.

But males apparently are showing up now that I have played more! (though they are, of course, minor characters. lol)

(http://i750.photobucket.com/albums/xx148/KoiNoDensetsu/otokodesuka.jpg)

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I'm finishing UL pretty fast.  [spoiler]I just got past the scene where Miki saves everyone by shooting that canon thing. (can't remember the name orz;;)[/spoiler]  That scene was really great.  I can just see how epic MLA will be.


Errr.. The one on the left looks pretty female to me. Now the total count of males is 6!
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Ixrec on July 27, 2010, 07:27:52 pm
Given how much the BETA have wiped out, a reduction in the male population relative to the female one is extremely plausible. Various countries have experienced real albeit somewhat smaller demographic shifts during the world wars (which compared to this BETA thing are pretty small wars).

tl;dr justified trope
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: HashiriyaR32 on July 27, 2010, 09:44:01 pm
Is there any reason why that grey-haired guy looks like Kai Shiden?

Anyway, I'm playing JASTUSA's version of Moero Downhill Night 2, and editing out all the fake car/brand/people names and any mistakes they made at the same time.  Unlike last time with MDN1, I actually have the JPN scripts for MDN2 to refer to in case I get really confused as to what the hell the JAST guys are trying to say.  Follow me on the MDN thread on the JAST forums if you want to see what sort of boneheaded mistakes I've uncovered in the translation.

Want a copy of the edited system.pkd file?  Drop me a PM.  If it's allowed, then I'll link it directly.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Moogy on July 28, 2010, 02:19:31 am
Finished Kusarihime.

Uh, wow. The ending of this game is... really quite something. Everyone should play this just to experience the ending and the lead-in to it.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: KoiNoDensetsu on July 28, 2010, 11:45:03 pm
Is there any reason why that grey-haired guy looks like Kai Shiden?

Anyway, I'm playing JASTUSA's version of Moero Downhill Night 2, and editing out all the fake car/brand/people names and any mistakes they made at the same time.  Unlike last time with MDN1, I actually have the JPN scripts for MDN2 to refer to in case I get really confused as to what the hell the JAST guys are trying to say.  Follow me on the MDN thread on the JAST forums if you want to see what sort of boneheaded mistakes I've uncovered in the translation.

Want a copy of the edited system.pkd file?  Drop me a PM.  If it's allowed, then I'll link it directly.

Ugh, JAST...  I am glad they are one of the reasons VNs have gotten more popular, but I have had it with them after their terrible Family "Project" release and how they handled the censorship. ("Oh, oops, looks like we forgot to change that '100% Uncensored' to '100% Uncensored Censorship'.  But god, you are making a big deal of this.  Bleh, send in your copies if you are pissed and we will refund your money... you dirty lolicons!")  I'm pretty sure KK is the only game on VNDB with "no translation" as a quoted line. >_>

I actually think that is why I started posting here.  I was pissed at JAST after them delaying KK to release it as shit, and then I was like "Hey, this other group TLed Cross Channel.  Another Romeo Tanaka title!  And since, they are fan-translators, no censorship!
...And wait, they re-edited MOON..  That game was great and they seem to TL stuff fast here!  I should post here.
...What, a VN poll?  And KimiNozo is an option?  That game I have wanted to play for years?  I will marry Ixrec if this gets translated! ;_;  I'm bored, so why not go crazy with my support? ;D"
...And that is how the amazing point in history known as "Ammy Poll" was formed.

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Anyway, back to topic:

I finished UL.  It had more "plot" scenes than EX, but EX was better overall.  The "generic dialogue" and jokes in UL are worse considering the setting.  School-life works better for moe slice-of-life (what a large portion of UL comprises), and the change of settings just doesn't work as well. (it's probably also due to the lack of Sumika)
The drama at the very end of EX was better than all of the "plot scenes" in UL (e.g. scenes like when [spoiler]Miki saves everyone by shooting the missile.[/spoiler]  UL just happens to have more "important" scenes than EX.

Characters were... okay.  Sigh, how to describe my feelings about this.  Sumika was awesome.  Meiya was okay. 
The rest of the cast was fairly one-dimensional.  Chizuru is an annoying bitch who needs to get on medication for her uncontrolled anger.  Ayamine is a narcissistic bitch, but much less so than Chizuru. (and she has a few good moments)  Miki is a throwaway moe loli that I like, but she isn't anything more than a trope.  Mikoto is... okay.  Kinda moe, but nothing amazing.
But even though the cast wasn't stellar... I somehow liked them.  They just have that "unexplainable special effect" that makes me like them more than the average moege's characters.  They aren't as forgettable as characters from some shit moege like HinataBokko.  They somehow become likable tropes.
(side characters like Mana and the Trio-de-Bitches (maids) were just annoying; ugh.)

Ignoring the "boring dialogue" (like the daily training sequences and all that...) that precedes, the drama and action scenes were good.  Granted, they kind of appear out of nowhere. ("Today we are focusing on bentou eating.  Next scene will be preaching about how authority does not excuse abusement of power.")  With the little bits of great scenes in EX and UL, I can see just how great AL will be.

AGES system and special effects were great. (さすがage)  It really added to the VN.

Character designs were meh, okay.  Sumika and Miki look cute, but characters like Meiya and Yuuko-sensei had ridiculous faces and eyes!
And what was with everyone's hair looking so deadly?  Meiya's hair looks like a huge curtain (suffocate victims); the maid with blonde hair looked like Sailor Moon (mahou shoujo attack); Miki's hair was... no comment. (she could probably stab someone with it though)  They all really need to drop the TSFs and just attack with their hair.

I give Muv-Luv a 6.5. (closer to 7 then 6)  The comedy is great, the characters (somehow) become likable by the end of the game (Sumika is always lovable~), and it had a few good drama/action scenes. (though far too much pointless dialogue, but some of that was interesting)  There are too many "Let's eat lunch!/Play marbles." scenes though. 
I can't wait for MLA.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Ixrec on July 29, 2010, 02:12:13 am
I have been told all the character designs are based on mechs, hence the lethal hair.

As for your various opinions, be warned that there is also a hell of a lot of talking in Alternative, and you might see some of it as unjustified.  The rest of them are safe.
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Moogy on July 29, 2010, 02:24:20 am
little does he know that alternative consists entirely of [spoiler]playing ayatori[/spoiler] with kasumi

oops, secret's out, sorry
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: KoiNoDensetsu on July 29, 2010, 05:18:22 am
I have been told all the character designs are based on mechs, hence the lethal hair.

Lol well I've never seen a mecha with curtain hair.  But that's just my version of Eureka seveN. :P

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As for your various opinions, be warned that there is also a hell of a lot of talking in Alternative, and you might see some of it as unjustified.  The rest of them are safe.

Meh, it's not that I mind a lot of talking.  It's just when I feel when it is pointless.  That's one of the main reasons I like EX better: the "pointless dialogue" wasn't as generic as lectures on fictional mecha.  It usually built up to some kind of joke or just was less... boring.

And since I am on a coffee high and it is still early here, I will go into more about my opinion on ML~ (stuff I forgot lol)

The music was great for the most part. (even though, admittingly, some of the tracks were just remixes from KimiNozo...)  The "extreme emotion" tracks (like the ones that play when something "bad" happens; too lazy to look at names orz) were cheesy in non-comedy scenes though.  They were composed well, but sounded like something out of a Gundam parody.

H-scenes were... not that great.  Miki's scenes were the best and moe, but it still wasn't that great.  The rest of the scenes were fairly poor.  They had a few good CG, but the text is totally non-erotic and tedious.  I pity Ixrec for having to translate the UL H-scenes. (more on that in next paragraph)

CG room had a terrible style.  It's just a huge wall of CGs with a scroll-down format!  New CGs have no set place; they appear in order of what paths you finished.
Music room had nice formatting.
I liked the option of showing what endings you have cleared; more VNs need this in the extra section. (though less messy)

The non-canon (non-Sumika/Meiya) routes in EX were pretty bad.  Miki's was cute and fluffy, but only something to play if you are a fan of such pointless moe things.  Chizuru and Ayamine's paths were pathetic.
The various UL "endings" were... bad.  I fast-forwarded through a lot of it after my first time, considering they all basically comprise of the same text but with a different girl.  I was already tired of hearing "I can't have sex when the girl I love is anxious" the first time around; I don't need to hear it four more times. >_>  I pity Ixrec for having to TL that shit.

Drama and action scenes were enjoyable, but cheesy.  As I said earlier, they appear fairly out of nowhere. (like suddenly switching from fluffiness to a drama scene)  But I still liked it.  Sumika's EX ending got me a little teary-eyed.

My biggest problem with UL is that it feels so... rushed.  A billion ideas are thrown out, but it never sticks to one.  Example: [spoiler]When Meiya and Takeru get trapped in the TSF and are about to kiss, nothing is said about this afterwards unless you choose Meiya's "route".  Inconsistent.[/spoiler]  Unexplained plot points are okay, but a messy plot isn't. 
The game stays action-less for most of the story, but then in the last five minutes, it gets all epic with reveals and Takeru's speech.  WTF?  Why couldn't the entirety of UL been like that?  I know it is leading up to AL, but that doesn't mean they couldn't have made it more exciting throughout.

So I think UL is the only truly "mediocre" part of Muv-Luv.  EX is pretty good for a moege slice-of-life.  UL has a few good scenes and ideas, but it feels too rushed.

(probably will have more to rant about later... lol)
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: SaMo0204 on July 29, 2010, 01:36:43 pm
Finishing Sekien & Muv-Luv Unlimited.
About to play: ef/Moero 2/Soul Link
Title: Re: What visual novels are you playing/about to play?
Post by: Metarail on July 30, 2010, 09:26:07 am
haven't posted in some time.

But finished GothDeri. It was quite different what I initially excepted from it. For something that was over 4GB+ in size I excepted something quite long, but it was pretty damn short, finished in few days and it was linear. Yeah, the lenght was quite short, but damn if I didnt enjoy it. So why did I enjoy it and why was it over 4GB then? Well because it's absoletely GORGEROUS to look at, and the presentation is nothing but beatifull. And the ammount special effects that it uses just makes it seem so alive, it's also completely told via use of CGs and their manipulation, in other words there are no standing potraits or such things, which is the case of pretty much every other eroge out there. So in that aspect its quite unique. One of the few VNs that I would call art in presentation. Hell the final fight in GothDeri beats any moment in ML Alternative in the special effect spam, and thats saying something, well they are not that comparable tough as it's quite different what kinds of effects gets used. Infact altough