Amaterasu Translations

Amaterasu Translations => General => Topic started by: Sheeta on January 31, 2010, 11:42:16 pm

Title: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Sheeta on January 31, 2010, 11:42:16 pm
Exactly what it sounds like. Discuss away.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Nagato on February 01, 2010, 12:14:13 am
Some project info:

- I have not taken the time to count Unlimited or Alternative yet but Extra is 1.36mb with 35375 lines of text. This does not include choice text, and it does include blank/useless lines in the count (for example, …s) but it's probably the most accurate count you'll find. Sumika and Meiya routes will be finished translating at almost the same time since they share the same script files except one. That's just to give you an idea of how much this game reuses the scripts.

- Right now the plan is to have translated images but we'll see how well that holds together when it comes time for testing. As of right now the translated images are working. This has been tested in other places (intermission image with the current day, background CG with Sumika crying at the beginning) but this is the only image I have available right now.

(http://imgur.com/VoUbJ.png)

- I've already made a toaster installer which will work on Windows 7 (if you are trying to install the version we'll be using for the translation, it will crash because of the protection on the launcher exe). The installer will be able to detect if you have Muv-Luv installed already (uses the registry to determine this) and properly sets the font settings for use with our translation. It'll also be able to detect which installation method you used and uninstall accordingly (full install using the installer -> full uninstall, patch install -> patch uninstall). The installer will require both DVDs since it installs Extra and Unlimited at the same time. It also will need administrator privileges to modify the registry as needed. There's also an awesome new 256x256 icon. It looks pretty nice compared to the original (on the right).

(http://imgur.com/mz8b8.png) (http://imgur.com/GVLnR.png)
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Kiru on February 01, 2010, 12:19:44 am
Well then, good luck to everyone who is involved. :)
That's quite a big project you have there now.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: AQZT on February 01, 2010, 12:21:32 am
THIS
Is why Ammy has, and always will be, the very best.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: AQZT on February 01, 2010, 12:33:27 am
Don't know whether this has already been mentioned but...
Will you be doing partial patches for this project like with the others Ammy has done?
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Ixrec on February 01, 2010, 12:39:11 am
Don't know whether this has already been mentioned but...
Will you be doing partial patches for this project like with the others Ammy has done?

My instincts tell me to do the following:
1) Extra main routes patch, ie Sumika and Meiya
2) Extra full patch
3) Unlimited full patch (nowhere in U worth breaking it up)
4) Alternative partial 1 up to the end of the cout d'etat arc
5) Alternative partial 2 up to the end of the Sadogashima arc
6) Alternative partial 3 up to the end of the Yokoshima arc (yes it all takes place at Yokoshima, but those who've read it know what I mean)
7) Alternative full patch, with final Kashgar arc

This is far from set in stone, so if anyone has opinions throw them out now and they are very likely to be taken seriously.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: AQZT on February 01, 2010, 01:05:45 am
Don't know whether this has already been mentioned but...
Will you be doing partial patches for this project like with the others Ammy has done?

My instincts tell me to do the following:
1) Extra main routes patch, ie Sumika and Meiya
2) Extra full patch
3) Unlimited full patch (nowhere in U worth breaking it up)
4) Alternative partial 1 up to the end of the cout d'etat arc
5) Alternative partial 2 up to the end of the Sadogashima arc
6) Alternative partial 3 up to the end of the Yokoshima arc (yes it all takes place at Yokoshima, but those who've read it know what I mean)
7) Alternative full patch, with final Kashgar arc

This is far from set in stone, so if anyone has opinions throw them out now and they are very likely to be taken seriously.
Well, for UL, you could always do a cutoff near the beginning of the island training arc...
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: zialot on February 01, 2010, 07:23:48 am
I have one question: will patches work with All-ages versions of games or not ?
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Moogy on February 01, 2010, 09:49:47 am
I have one question: will patches work with All-ages versions of games or not ?
No.

You'll need a copy of Muv-Luv 18+ DVD edition and the original 18+ edition of Muv-Luv Alternative, since Nagato isn't interested in hacking other builds of rUGP.

(I may not be on staff, but hell, I'll answer anyway.)

Good stuff, guys, good stuff. Hopefully I'll get around to playing the series before you finish the translation so I can offer some input.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Pirkaf on February 01, 2010, 10:24:15 am
Sugoi!
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: maitrenuage on February 01, 2010, 11:17:02 am
Noesssssss  :'(

So the MLA fans won...  :-[

Lol at least KoiNoDensetsu will agree with me when I say it's better than KGNE :)

Have fun translating it ;)
I can't wait to try it.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Nagato on February 01, 2010, 12:15:07 pm
You'll need a copy of Muv-Luv 18+ DVD edition and the original 18+ edition of Muv-Luv Alternative, since Nagato isn't interested in hacking other builds of rUGP.

(I may not be on staff, but hell, I'll answer anyway.)
Correct answer, just want to give out the Japanese title for the original game: マブラヴ DVD-ROM版 (http://www.amazon.co.jp/gp/product/B0006M0ABG?ie=UTF8). Our patch will not work on any other versions of the game.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: AQZT on February 01, 2010, 01:02:45 pm
Now we can fight over what Ixrec's side project should be! (Assuming he chooses to do one of course)
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Nerroth on February 01, 2010, 02:41:54 pm
Hi.

First of all, I want to wish you luck on the project, though I confess that an all-ages patch would be a useful option to have, for myself at least.

If there is no room at the inn for the all-ages versions right now, is there scope for allowing someone to pick up that project in the future?

Also, will other Muv-Luv stories, such as Altered Fable and Total Eclipse, be that much more likely for consideration once Extra/Unlimited and Alternative are done?

So far as posting on the forum goes, should threads about some of the Alternative-related merchandise out there (from the Volks A3 models (http://www.volks.co.jp/jp/a3/index.html) and the Figma of Mitsurugi Meiya (http://www.goodsmile.info/product/en/2435/figma+Meiya+Mitsurugi+UN+Troop+Ver.html) to the Integral Works (http://www.techgian.jp/official/te/index.html) background book, to mention a few examples) go in the pre-existing mixed board, or will there be a dedicated Muv-Luv sub-board in which such options could be discussed?
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion (order to play muv luv)
Post by: Sirf*palot on February 01, 2010, 03:20:08 pm
Is there a specific order to play muv luv?

Thanks
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Nerroth on February 01, 2010, 03:24:24 pm
The story should go Extra > Unlimited > Alternative* > Altered Fable.

*Alternative is in the same timeline as Total Eclipse, The Euro Front and other such stories - though the latter two are set in different areas.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Sirf*palot on February 01, 2010, 05:38:48 pm
Which game is "Total Eclipse, The Euro Front and other such stories" from? I'm sorry I sound stupid but I'm not familiar with the series.

Thanks

Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Marche90 on February 01, 2010, 06:11:19 pm
Well, it's understandable, if you don't know japanese.... >.>
But anyway, since it was chosen, I think  that it will be a really good VN. Just waiting for the first patch =)
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Ixrec on February 01, 2010, 06:11:50 pm
Quote
If there is no room at the inn for the all-ages versions right now, is there scope for allowing someone to pick up that project in the future?

All it would amount to is someone hacking that version of the game and then reusing our translations, albeit a translator would be needed to deal with mild additions or alterations to the script, but I'd probably be willing to take that on as a side project later.

Quote
Also, will other Muv-Luv stories, such as Altered Fable and Total Eclipse, be that much more likely for consideration once Extra/Unlimited and Alternative are done?

Not immediately after, no, because ML and MLA combined is a damn long project and I will not want to do any more of it once that's finished. I *might* do some of the spinoff and fandisc content in the future, but don't count on it. I consider it far more likely that other translators will materialize out of nowhere to do that stuff long before I get to it (heck, LoSs already tried to do Total Eclipse).

Quote
So far as posting on the forum goes, should threads about some of the Alternative-related merchandise out there (from the Volks A3 models and the Figma of Mitsurugi Meiya to the Integral Works background book, to mention a few examples) go in the pre-existing mixed board, or will there be a dedicated Muv-Luv sub-board in which such options could be discussed?

A sub-board for a single franchise seems excessive. I'd say put it all in mixed, or under VN if it ties heavily into the actual visual novels.

And before anyone else asks, for clarifications on what games have what content and are based on what other games, just go to vndb. Seriously.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: AQZT on February 01, 2010, 06:18:05 pm
And before anyone else asks, for clarifications on what games have what content and are based on what other games, just go to vndb. Seriously.
vndb is only good for release dates and ratings of games, and it is good for finding for what is based off what, but for finding descriptions of the actual content of games it's a little errrrr... lacking.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Ixrec on February 01, 2010, 06:19:18 pm
I meant questions like who's in what's timeline and which is the sequel to what. It's fine for that.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Nagato on February 01, 2010, 07:11:47 pm
I finished counting for the entire first Muv-Luv game. The stats are 62985 lines and 2562.91 kb (2.5mb) combined.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: KoiNoDensetsu on February 01, 2010, 07:50:49 pm
Lol at least KoiNoDensetsu will agree with me when I say it's better than KGNE :)

No. >:(  KimiNozo is the obvious winner over anything!
(Okay, honestly, I can't have an opinion since I haven't played MuvLuv yet =P)

But wow, I sure have missed a lot...  Great to see that at least my second choice won.  All that's needed for Ammy to get the Absolute Epic TLer award is a KGNE translation after this. ;D
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Nerroth on February 01, 2010, 11:52:44 pm
All it would amount to is someone hacking that version of the game and then reusing our translations, albeit a translator would be needed to deal with mild additions or alterations to the script, but I'd probably be willing to take that on as a side project later.

I see - and I'll wait to see what may happen in that regard. (And if you do take it on, thank you in advance!)

Quote
Not immediately after, no, because ML and MLA combined is a damn long project and I will not want to do any more of it once that's finished. I *might* do some of the spinoff and fandisc content in the future, but don't count on it. I consider it far more likely that other translators will materialize out of nowhere to do that stuff long before I get to it (heck, LoSs already tried to do Total Eclipse).

Understood.

(As an aside, I've been a little confused about the Total Eclipse and The Euro Front stuff. Is the version of TE included with Altered Fable intended to be a preview of the story being told in Tech Gian? I'd seen somewhere that some standalone version of TE was to be released this year, but I wasn't sure if that was true or not. Also, I'm not quite sure where, aside from in the Hobby Japan monthlies, TEF is supposed to be found...)

Quote
A sub-board for a single franchise seems excessive. I'd say put it all in mixed, or under VN if it ties heavily into the actual visual novels.

Duly noted.

Quote
And before anyone else asks, for clarifications on what games have what content and are based on what other games, just go to vndb. Seriously.

I checked there, but didn't see anything about The Euro Front, or what kind of story the version of Total Eclipse included with Altered Fable is meant to be...
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Ixrec on February 02, 2010, 12:37:18 am
Quote
And before anyone else asks, for clarifications on what games have what content and are based on what other games, just go to vndb. Seriously.

I checked there, but didn't see anything about The Euro Front, or what kind of story the version of Total Eclipse included with Altered Fable is meant to be...

'Muv-Luv Alternative - Total Eclipse' is a side story of Muv-Luv Alternative and a VN. It tells the story of pilots and engineers of the Alaska's Yukon base working on new Senjutsuki models.
~vndb

So yeah. Not much, but it is there.

Yes, it has no mention whatsoever of Euro Front, but I've never once heard of that myself so I am indifferent to that detail for now.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: izmosmolnar on February 02, 2010, 01:54:37 am
vndb is only good for release dates and ratings of games, and it is good for finding for what is based off what, but for finding descriptions of the actual content of games it's a little errrrr... lacking.
Yeah, well feel free to add stuff then if you think something is lacking.
It's a lot more useful than only for hunting down release dates.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: AQZT on February 02, 2010, 02:34:38 am
vndb is only good for release dates and ratings of games, and it is good for finding for what is based off what, but for finding descriptions of the actual content of games it's a little errrrr... lacking.
Yeah, well feel free to add stuff then if you think something is lacking.
It's a lot more useful than only for hunting down release dates.
I would if I could, but I don't even know what half the games I look up are about, as they aren't English translated.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Nerroth on February 02, 2010, 09:18:56 am
'Muv-Luv Alternative - Total Eclipse' is a side story of Muv-Luv Alternative and a VN. It tells the story of pilots and engineers of the Alaska's Yukon base working on new Senjutsuki models.
~vndb

So yeah. Not much, but it is there.

Yes, it has no mention whatsoever of Euro Front, but I've never once heard of that myself so I am indifferent to that detail for now.

For the past few years, Total Eclipse (http://www9.atwiki.jp/alternative/pages/83.html) has been expanded upon in Tech Gian - the most recent story update posted on the site was in late December (http://www.total-eclipse.jp/te/story.html) - and published in a series of novels (shown on the same site (http://www.techgian.jp/official/te/index.html) that the Integral Works book is shown).

What I was wondering is how far the story in the VN included with Altered Fable goes, relative to the chapters currently being produced.


So far as The Euro Front (http://www9.atwiki.jp/alternative/pages/291.html) goes, it's a similar ongoing storyline - but one published in Hobby Japan instead. (Some of the units shown in it are based on the Eurofighter Typhoon, Dassault Rafale and so forth, in contrast to the Japanese, Russian and American units in other stories.)

However, they have already cast VAs for one or two of the characters - as shown in this video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IXWCN6YcWb8). I was wondering if there was anything more to it, in terms of having a version of TEF show up (if it hasn't already) in another medium.


(By the way, for anyone so inclined, there's a Japanese-language wiki for the Alternative timeline here (http://www9.atwiki.jp/alternative). Indeed, on the Total Eclipse page, it says there will be an all-ages version out this year - though I'm not sure where the source, if any, for this happens to be... or if the statement is being plucked out of thin air or not.)
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Ixrec on February 02, 2010, 11:07:31 am
Bookmarked. I'll check this stuff out later.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Nerroth on February 02, 2010, 03:17:24 pm
Cool.


By the way, I'd heard that the game engines for the original Muv-Luv and Alternative are different - and that the all-ages version of Muv-Luv was re-done to work on Alternative's engine.

Does anyone here know if this is true?
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Shikiller on February 02, 2010, 03:21:11 pm
Cool.


By the way, I'd heard that the game engines for the original Muv-Luv and Alternative are different - and that the all-ages version of Muv-Luv was re-done to work on Alternative's engine.

Does anyone here know if this is true?

Yes, that's correct.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Nerroth on February 02, 2010, 03:57:26 pm
Thanks for the clarification.


(In case anyone is interested, I put a thread discussing non-story merchandise elsewhere (http://amaterasu.is.moelicious.be/forums/index.php?topic=162.0). I wasn't sure if there should be an additional thread to discuss the rest of the Muv-Luv franchise story-wise, such as Total Eclipse and The Euro Front, however. It's not that big a deal right now, but eventually it might be useful to deal with these stories separately from what will be in Extra/Unlimited, Alternative and Altered Fable.)
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Ixrec on February 02, 2010, 04:26:31 pm
This forum is nowhere near as formal as you seem to believe. Just make a thread whenever you want one and we'll move it if we think it belongs elsewhere. They'll all end up off-topic within the first two pages anyway.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Nerroth on February 02, 2010, 04:48:00 pm
I'll bear that in mind, thank you.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Nagato on February 02, 2010, 05:41:31 pm
The original (what we're working on for EX/UL) runs in 5.5 while Alternative runs on 5.7. I'm not sure how big of a difference it is between Alternative and EX/UL all ages but the stuff probably wouldn't work out of the box so it would need to be redone a bit. Even with that all done, there would still be problems when it comes to porting the 5.5 translation to a different engine because rUGP doesn't have internal filenames, so I'm using the offset in the rio file as the filename, which would change per game.

It's not something I'd really be willing to work on since it's a lot of work.

Edit: Just installed the all ages version and alternative to check engine versions. They are all different so it would require more hacking.

Muv-Luv 18+ - rUGP 5.60.10
Muv-Luv All-Ages - rUGP 5.72.09
Muv-Luv Alternative 18+ - rUGP 5.70.18
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Nerroth on February 03, 2010, 12:05:50 pm
I see.


With granulation as fine as that, I wouldn't be surprised if it turned out that the all-ages take on Alternative was different again...
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Gore on February 03, 2010, 09:55:14 pm
Gonna translate it all? I'm a little shocked.

I definitely recall saying you'd change your mind and translate it all after you played Alt, but I honestly didn't think you'd actually do it. Well that's awesome though.

I'm glad it isn't the all-ages version anyways, considering they tone down some of the impact scenes, and even remove one completely. The only "plus" is more voicing for Takeru, which is far from a plus for me.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: KoiNoDensetsu on February 04, 2010, 12:05:21 am
Since the MuvLuv project will take a while, I think it would make the most sense to finish playing 11eyes and Kimi ga Nozomu Eien in-between translating the MuvLuv games.  If Ixrec likes them enough for translation, he could translate them in-between MuvLuv games.  Example of translation order:

-MuvLuv Extra
-[KGNE/11eyes]
-MuvLuv Unlimited
-[KGNE/11eyes]
-MuvLuv Alternative

This would please all of the fans and would give variety to anyone here that isn't a MuvLuv fan.  I think this setup would make everyone happy.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Nagato on February 04, 2010, 12:08:43 am
Just give up already.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: KoiNoDensetsu on February 04, 2010, 12:13:06 am
Just give up already.

No~ ;)

(BTW, if you thought I was trying to promote KGNE, I wasn't.  I was just saying what I think makes the most sense.)
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: AQZT on February 04, 2010, 01:29:50 am
Since the MuvLuv project will take a while, I think it would make the most sense to finish playing 11eyes and Kimi ga Nozomu Eien in-between translating the MuvLuv games.  If Ixrec likes them enough for translation, he could translate them in-between MuvLuv games.  Example of translation order:

-MuvLuv Extra
-[KGNE/11eyes]
-MuvLuv Unlimited
-[KGNE/11eyes]
-MuvLuv Alternative

This would please all of the fans and would give variety to anyone here that isn't a MuvLuv fan.  I think this setup would make everyone happy.
I APPROVE!!!!!!
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Ixrec on February 04, 2010, 12:04:18 pm
There seems to be a serious underestimation of the length of said games and an overestimation of how long I would want a side project to be. The point of a side project would be simply to give me a short (maybe a month or less) break from the main project without delaying it much.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: beliar on February 04, 2010, 01:14:59 pm
Poll for the side project? ;D LOL
P.S. LOL means Love Our Lord (Ixrec)
P.P.S. This (http://vndb.org/v1055) met my eye when I visited vndb, though I have no idea what it is about.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: maitrenuage on February 04, 2010, 01:17:31 pm
Then how long is Katahane ? (Is it as short as i heard ?)
Unfortunately the translation has stopped...
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Ixrec on February 04, 2010, 01:28:37 pm
Then how long is Katahane ? (Is it as short as i heard ?)
Unfortunately the translation has stopped...

It has? Lame.

Quote
Poll for the side project?  LOL
P.S. LOL means Love Our Lord (Ixrec)
P.P.S. This met my eye when I visited vndb, though I have no idea what it is about.

Its sequel, Myth, actually is one of the games on my list of super-short VNs to try out.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: beliar on February 04, 2010, 01:37:39 pm
Then how long is Katahane ? (Is it as short as i heard ?)
Unfortunately the translation has stopped...

It has? Lame.

Quote
Poll for the side project?  LOL
P.S. LOL means Love Our Lord (Ixrec)
P.P.S. This met my eye when I visited vndb, though I have no idea what it is about.

Its sequel, Myth, actually is one of the games on my list of super-short VNs to try out.

Erm... why do you want to translate the sequel first? Are the stories in Aguni and Myth not really connected?
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: izmosmolnar on February 04, 2010, 02:16:46 pm
Myth isn't that short though with its 0.98 MB script. See size counts: http://www.tsukuru.info/tlwiki/index.php?title=VN/Eroge_Scriptsizes

People asking for another poll, I hope you are not serious. Just let him play 5-6 of them shorter games during that month Ixrec mentioned (most can be cleared in a day), and let him decide himself.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Ixrec on February 05, 2010, 11:17:52 am
Then how long is Katahane ? (Is it as short as i heard ?)
Unfortunately the translation has stopped...

It has? Lame.

Quote
Poll for the side project?  LOL
P.S. LOL means Love Our Lord (Ixrec)
P.P.S. This met my eye when I visited vndb, though I have no idea what it is about.

Its sequel, Myth, actually is one of the games on my list of super-short VNs to try out.

Erm... why do you want to translate the sequel first? Are the stories in Aguni and Myth not really connected?

I don't know. I know nothing about these games, which is why I have to read them first. It is merely one of the ones people recommended when I asked for short games in IRC.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: AQZT on February 05, 2010, 10:19:04 pm
A question:
When do you plan on beginning to post progress updates in the "Projects" section of the main website?
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Ixrec on February 05, 2010, 10:35:00 pm
A question:
When do you plan on beginning to post progress updates in the "Projects" section of the main website?

Whenever Nagato feels like updating the main page. Notice it still implies we're working on Sekien no Inganock. I have no idea when this will happen, but you can always check the SVN to try and come up with your own numbers. So far I'm managing the promised 20kb per day.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Nagato on February 06, 2010, 01:48:47 am
It was on my list of things to do whenever I stopped being lazy. It's updated now.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: maitrenuage on February 06, 2010, 05:18:03 am
It was on my list of things to do whenever I stopped being lazy. It's updated now.

Please don’t say “You are lazy”
Datte hontou wa crazy
Hakuchou-tachi wa sou
Mienai toko de bataashisurun desu
Honnou ni juujun   chuujitsu   honrou mo juujuu shouchi
Zento youyou da shi…
Dakara tama ni kyuukeishichaun desu

Kono me de shikkari misadamete
Yukisaki chizujou maakushite
Chikamichi areba sore ga oudou
Hashoreru tsubasa mo areba joutou

Yaba   tsume wareta   guruu de hoshuushita
Sore dake de nanka tasseikan
Daiji na no wa jibun   kawaigaru koto
Jibun o aisanakya   hito mo aisenai

Please don’t say “You are lazy”
Datte hontou wa crazy
Nouaru taka wa sou
Mienai toko ni pikku kakusun desu
Souzou ni isshou kenmei   genjitsu wa zettai zetsumei
Hatten tochuu da shi…
Dakara fui ni picchi hazurerun desu

Sono me ni utsuranai dake datte
Yaruki wa meetaa furikitte
Itsu de mo zenryoku de yumemite
Sono bun zenryoku de nemutte

Yari   choi yaseta   choushizuite kutta
Sore dake de nande?   Haibokukan
Sukasazu ni mokuhyou   kahou shuuseishite
Juunan ni rinki ouhen   shichihenge ga kachi

Please don’t say “You are lazy”
Datte hontou wa crazy
Kujaku-tachi wa sou
Koko zo to iu toki bi o miserun desu
Gozouroppu   manshin   maishin   ganbou wa soushin reijin
Yuuwaku tahatsu da shi…
Dakara yake ni ishi kudakechaun desu

Yaba   masaka Red Point!?   Iya   giri-kuria!
Sore dake de nante zennoukan
Daiji na no wa jibun   mitometeku koto
Jibun o yurusanakya   hito mo yurusenai

Please don’t say “You are lazy”
Datte hontou wa crazy
Hakuchou-tachi wa sou
Mienai toko de bataashisurun desu
Honnou ni juujun   chuujitsu   honrou mo juujuu shouchi
Zento youyou da shi…
Dakara tama ni kyuukeishichaun desu
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Kiru on February 06, 2010, 07:27:35 am
It was on my list of things to do whenever I stopped being lazy. It's updated now.

Please don’t say “You are lazy”
[...]
Dakara tama ni kyuukeishichaun desu

Yeah, april isn't that far away, so keep cool. :)
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: AQZT on February 06, 2010, 01:05:59 pm
It was on my list of things to do whenever I stopped being lazy. It's updated now.
Arigatou Gozaimasu.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: KoiNoDensetsu on February 06, 2010, 10:15:08 pm
It was on my list of things to do whenever I stopped being lazy. It's updated now.

Please don’t say “You are lazy”
Datte hontou wa crazy
Hakuchou-tachi wa sou
Mienai toko de bataashisurun desu
Honnou ni juujun   chuujitsu   honrou mo juujuu shouchi
Zento youyou da shi…
Dakara tama ni kyuukeishichaun desu

Kono me de shikkari misadamete
Yukisaki chizujou maakushite
Chikamichi areba sore ga oudou
Hashoreru tsubasa mo areba joutou

[...]

LMAO nice. xD  Did you write that?  I read it with an Engrish accent in my mind.

And I love that the main page has finally been updated with a MuvLuv picture.  I think something a little less... discreet (?) would have been better though.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Nagato on February 06, 2010, 10:33:38 pm
Well the original image I had up was this:
(http://imgur.com/j8sOk.jpg)

but Ixrec wanted something Sumika-related so I found the heart-shaped hair picture. The original was superior. :(
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: AQZT on February 06, 2010, 10:36:38 pm
Well the original image I had up was this:
(Image)

but Ixrec wanted something Sumika-related so I found the heart-shaped hair picture. The original was superior. :(
I agree. PRAISE THE HOTDOG-THING WHOSE NAME IS UNKNOWN TO THE HE WHO IS I!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: KoiNoDensetsu on February 06, 2010, 10:42:34 pm
I vote for He Who Is I Hotdogsan as well!!! :o
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: maitrenuage on February 07, 2010, 12:39:17 am
It was on my list of things to do whenever I stopped being lazy. It's updated now.

Please don’t say “You are lazy”
Datte hontou wa crazy
Hakuchou-tachi wa sou
Mienai toko de bataashisurun desu
Honnou ni juujun   chuujitsu   honrou mo juujuu shouchi
Zento youyou da shi…
Dakara tama ni kyuukeishichaun desu

Kono me de shikkari misadamete
Yukisaki chizujou maakushite
Chikamichi areba sore ga oudou
Hashoreru tsubasa mo areba joutou

[...]

LMAO nice. xD  Did you write that?  I read it with an Engrish accent in my mind.

It's the K-ON! ending song.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Ixrec on February 07, 2010, 02:48:16 am
If anyone cares, it's not a hotdog but yakisoba bread.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: KoiNoDensetsu on February 08, 2010, 07:17:16 am
If anyone cares, it's not a hotdog but yakisoba bread.

Now that I look at it again, it looks more like a taco then anything. 
But mmm, that sounds delicious, this yakisoba bread...  Yakisoba already =  ;D  Thus, Yakisoba + delicious nippon pan must =  :o
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Mirrored on February 11, 2010, 06:29:46 pm
Well, progress is looking good and I'm excited for this release, I kind of think the full Extra/Unlimited/Alternative trio is going to hit a lot of different spots and keep the whole thing interesting.

For some reason, I really wanted to see a Mecha VN. Setting variation is good and after the disappointment of Soul Link its nice to get something that actually has merit.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Kiru on February 12, 2010, 05:26:07 am
For some reason, I really wanted to see a Mecha VN. Setting variation is good and after the disappointment of Soul Link its nice to get something that actually has merit.

Do not forget that practically no one really loves Muv-Luv... only Alternative is hyped. :)
So do not read Muv-Luv with some insane expectations. (that comes later, hopefully :D )

edit: Of course it's still the beginning... oh and I don't know Soul Link(or Muv-Luv...) yet, but based on the vndb-scores it doesn't seem to be really worse than Muv-Luv.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Mirrored on February 12, 2010, 11:28:39 am
I've heard good things about ultimate, but of course, Alternative is the whole reason for going through this.

But I really just wanted to see a military academy setting done right, so I'm glad it's happening.

It's very different from most of what's currently available to the English only readers. I'm thrilled.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Gore on February 12, 2010, 01:05:50 pm
Personally I think you're better off waiting for it all to be tl'd before playing Mirrored. If you read Unlimited half a year or more before Alternative is done, by time you get to play it all the build-up will be gone and you just won't give a shit.

Or I guess you could just read it again when Ixrec is near Original Hive.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Mirrored on February 12, 2010, 02:55:05 pm
Hmm, thanks for the advice.

I think I'll probably do a re-read of it when we get ML:A, by then I'll have really soaked in the setting and will probably be able to fully appreciate any twists added in ML:A and see more of the moments of timeline deviation.

Though it will depend on how long it takes me to finish Sharin no Kuni, and if Umineko EP6 has a full TL by then. But I can't imagine having the first two parts out and not reading them.

Heh, we'll see how much free time I have. Still, I'm pretty thrilled about the whole thing.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Shikiller on February 22, 2010, 10:27:48 am
I don't think it's that much of a problem to read Extra/Unlimited and wait for Alternative.
Muv Luv was released in 2003, Alternative in 2006 and the Japanese still loved it, moreover, you won't have to wait for 3 years =p 
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Gore on February 23, 2010, 04:49:32 pm
Then a large amount of them quit at *that* scene and sent in hate mail to Age.

I'm curious to know if any foreigners did the same.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: the_paper on February 25, 2010, 05:51:03 pm
Then a large amount of them quit at *that* scene and sent in hate mail to Age.

Ooh, now I'm curious. Since I'm not planning to play Muv-Luv, spoils plz? Is that referring to (ROT13'd) gur frpbaq Ufprar gung GnxnWha fnvq jnf fb hajrypbzr naq bhg-bs-cynpr va uvf erivrj?
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Ixrec on February 25, 2010, 07:48:52 pm
Then a large amount of them quit at *that* scene and sent in hate mail to Age.

Ooh, now I'm curious. Since I'm not planning to play Muv-Luv, spoils plz? Is that referring to (ROT13'd) gur frpbaq Ufprar gung GnxnWha fnvq jnf fb hajrypbzr naq bhg-bs-cynpr va uvf erivrj?

I assume he's referring to:

The scene where Sumika gets repeatedly tentacle-raped by BETA.

And trust me, you don't want to highlight that. You wouldn't believe me unless you saw it in-game anyway.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Gore on February 26, 2010, 12:40:30 am
Nope it was

The Marimo scene where she gets her face chewed off.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Ixrec on February 26, 2010, 01:24:36 am
Ah, you're right, the types to be offended by such things would've stopped at that one first.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Nerroth on February 26, 2010, 10:45:09 am
And people wonder why I'd prefer the all-ages version...
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Mirrored on February 26, 2010, 11:45:20 pm
Great progress psyched.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Metarail on February 28, 2010, 02:47:04 pm
Those two scenes mentioned in spoilers are probably few of the most powerfullest scenes in the game, and censoring/removing them lessens the emotional involment in the game, altough I see why someone would bitch about them being so... well yeah, you know.... But really without them you just dont hate BETAs enough and they really do get the message they try to tell trough well.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Ixrec on February 28, 2010, 03:55:22 pm
^A concise summary of why we will not be doing the All Ages version.

*edit*

And this just had to be a new page such that my ^ doesn't actually point to anything >_>
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Nerroth on February 28, 2010, 10:15:12 pm
I would have thought the wiping out of billions of humans during several decades' worth of total war would have been enough of a motivator against BETA, personally.

Adding in the other stuff (or, at least, that second one) is really just overkill, on more than one level. Quite frankly, it seems more gratuitous than necessary to keep in, to me at least.


If there is not ever to be an all-ages patch, that is one thing - but if the publishers themselves felt the need/wish to release a version which had that scene removed, I'd have thought it wasn't such a terrible thing to at least prefer that option...
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Gore on February 28, 2010, 10:57:05 pm
While just hearing about the BETA war apparently works for you, it did absolutely nothing for me. I didn't care at all during Unlimited, and the first 1/4th of Alternative held no special feelings for me either towards the BETA. It was only after *that* scene when I began to care, and actually became emotionally engaged towards them. While you find it unnecessary, others do find it necessary.

And preferring all-ages because there happens to be an all-ages version....not sure how this works. They only released an all-ages version because they wanted to appeal to a wider audience, increase sales etc.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Nerroth on March 01, 2010, 08:27:40 am
While just hearing about the BETA war apparently works for you, it did absolutely nothing for me. I didn't care at all during Unlimited, and the first 1/4th of Alternative held no special feelings for me either towards the BETA. It was only after *that* scene when I began to care, and actually became emotionally engaged towards them. While you find it unnecessary, others do find it necessary.

I said motivator. The simple part about wanting to keep the species alive would be enough to want to try and find some sort of resolution, if one is available.

However, the thing which stands out most for me, upon reading up on the setting, is that the BETA life forms on Earth (and in hives across the galaxy) are, essentially, slaves. While I'd be really upset at them coming to ruin humanity's day, I'd be more pissed off at the Creators - the silicate bastards who use BETA as their galactic pest control service, since to them no carbonate life-forms could possibly be sentient, and thus worth keeping around...

Quote
And preferring all-ages because there happens to be an all-ages version....not sure how this works. They only released an all-ages version because they wanted to appeal to a wider audience, increase sales etc.

If given the choice between a version of the game that has that scene, and one which doesn't, I'd prefer to get the one that doesn't.

Even leaving aside how easier it would be to try and talk about the series (as well as the spinoffs I'm interested in, like Total Eclipse and The Euro Front) that way - going with the wider audience point you mention (which is not a bad thing in and of itself) - I really don't want to go there, in terms of having that scene in the copy of the game I'd want to play.

If you want the uncensored version, that's fair enough - why is it a big deal for me to want the all-ages one?

(Yes, I know that means if an uncensored patch never happens, or if I never become fluent enough in Japanese to be able to play the all-ages version unaided, I won't get to play it.)
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Gore on March 01, 2010, 09:59:43 am
I said motivator. The simple part about wanting to keep the species alive would be enough to want to try and find some sort of resolution, if one is available.

Exactly, motivation to care. That's what I thought we were talking about.

why is it a big deal

When did it become a big deal.


However when the patch for Alternative is out, the game itself will become a rather big deal. With it's new popularity there might just be someone in there with skills like Nagato's who wants the all-ages version instead and will hack that. The extra scenes won't be tl'd but from what I heard there isn't too many of them anyways. When I think about it, those "letters" I never read are probably the extra scenes from the all-ages.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Metarail on March 01, 2010, 11:37:18 am
Those leters were already in the orginal. But as they were dependant how you made the choices in the early-mid game that decide whose letter you get, so maybe you didnt just get enough points with anyone thus didnt get any letter. Thats the only reasonable reason that I can think up you not getting it.

Also for those worried about those two scenes they are rather short overall and when they come you just can ctrl trough them if they matter so much. Also try playing Saya no Uta, if you can stomach that VN then you probably can stomach those scenes. In the end in my opinion toning down those two scenes really would waterdown the Alternative a bit, as when  think about memorable scenes in all VNs that I have read, those two scenes usuallu pop-up in the mind pretty fast.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: AcroRay on March 01, 2010, 12:04:07 pm
I'm a strong proponent of the all-ages version because of how it can help expand the whole Muv-Luv property.  Sort of like how Fate Stay/Night started as an eroge, but then expanded into an all-ages property.  You can see Muv-Luv's all-ages movement and marketing with all the Hobby Japan coverage.  Muv-Luv is a strong story, one way or the other.

While I really liked what I saw of Extra as translated at neechin.net, and have been enjoying ToniGobi's translation of the Unlimited manga, the whole mecha-opera of Alternative is what really attracts me.   I want robots, the whole "Do not die in vein" hero ethic , strange alien adversaries (that reminded me of Larry Niven aliens), an overwhelmed hero and pretty girls.  The all-ages version fits that bill nicely, without disturbing the waifu...

Still, as far as Ammy's translation is concerned, I'm all for it even if it's 18+.  The games really deserve more accessibility for us here in the west.

So, who wants to translate my Integral Works and TSF Cross Operation Muv-Luv books...?  :D
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Nerroth on March 01, 2010, 01:36:11 pm
You got a copy of Integral Works? Curses...


(My local hobby store couldn't get a hold of one for me, sadly.)
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Ixrec on March 01, 2010, 05:29:45 pm
I'm a strong proponent of the all-ages version because of how it can help expand the whole Muv-Luv property.  Sort of like how Fate Stay/Night started as an eroge, but then expanded into an all-ages property.  You can see Muv-Luv's all-ages movement and marketing with all the Hobby Japan coverage.  Muv-Luv is a strong story, one way or the other.

I feel obligated to mention that in F/SN there was very little emotional weight added or plot developed during the gore/sex scenes, while the ones in Alternative are absolutely critical for both plot and character reasons.

Of course, since you can just ctrl through them it's no big deal, and if someone shows up willing to adapt Nagato's hooks for the all-ages version I would happily tl the couple of little bits unique to that version.

And I never saw these letters either so...yeah, I'll just assume what Metarail said applies to me too.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: AcroRay on March 01, 2010, 10:45:33 pm
I feel obligated to mention that in F/SN there was very little emotional weight added or plot developed during the gore/sex scenes, while the ones in Alternative are absolutely critical for both plot and character reasons.

No disagreement there.  It seems that much of the power of Alternative's story is derived from the affection you're lead to feel toward the characters you've spent so much time with,  and the - harrowing circumstances - they encounter.

In that regard, the game's authors seem to have done an excellent job drawing in the player emotionally.  AGE seems to be experts at taking their particular genre and flipping it on its ear.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Nerroth on March 01, 2010, 11:14:11 pm
Part of the thing with F/SN is that the scenes in question are not simply removed for Réalta Nua - they were re-written.

The fish thing with Rin, the infamous dragon with Saber, and so on - plus if I'm not mistaken, certain events, such as the night Shirou and Saber spend together in Fate, still happen (albeit 'off-camera') in the all-ages version... which is, unfortunately, only on the PS2 for the time being.

I'm guessing that the same was not the case here - or are there re-writes for certain scenes?

(I'd probably get by even if there weren't, but it would be nice if they put the effort to re-work the scenes rather than leave such gaps in the plot.)
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion (where to buy)
Post by: Sirf*palot on March 03, 2010, 05:36:15 pm
Hello, since  by the time the translation finishes, I would actually be able to purchase my eroges, where could I buy Muv Luv Extra, I only found Alternative for sale on eroge shop

Thanks
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Gore on March 03, 2010, 06:00:37 pm
It's on Getchu for about 8,000 yen. http://www.getchu.com/soft.phtml?id=120221&gc=gc
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Nagato on March 03, 2010, 11:49:15 pm
The version of Muv-Luv Alternative on Erogeshop doesn't look like the correct version. Theirs is the renewal version, while ours will be the original version (2006/02/24). You will also need the original version of the first game as Gore linked (2004/04/30). DVD versions only. I want to talk to someone about helping with imports if he's interested but I'm waiting until more progress is made before asking.

Edit: I would also like to state that those two are the ONLY versions we will be supporting, down to the specification of DVD version. If you buy anything else and it doesn't work then you're out of luck.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Sirf*palot on March 04, 2010, 10:11:12 am
Sorry for asking again, would I be able to distinguish between the Original (Alternative) as opposed to the original on Getchu? For some reason, Getchu is blocked on my school's computer  ;D so I don't know if the whole site is in japanese.

Thanks
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Nagato on March 04, 2010, 12:49:43 pm
I'm not sure if the boxart is different but the dates would be the best way I think.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Ixrec on March 06, 2010, 01:47:13 pm
Threw some probable completion dates into the forum calendar if anyone cares. My math says the main routes will likely be done on the 28th, assuming I take no more days off. For technical reasons, the delay until an actual patch is available will probably be longer than usual.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: AcroRay on March 06, 2010, 03:11:14 pm
Yay!  ;D
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Gore on March 06, 2010, 06:29:34 pm
Then Unlimited probably won't take all that long. If I remember correctly it was maybe the length of 2 routes on Extra. I'm pretty sure I finished it up in two days.

Well it has been about 9 months I think, so my memory could be way off.

Also Ray I bet you're regretting having me spoil everything for you, now that you have a chance of actually playing it lol.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Belgaesh on March 07, 2010, 10:03:25 am
Just one doubt, is this the correct Muv Luv Alternative that you guys are gonna translate?
http://www.getchu.com/soft.phtml?id=245525
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Nagato on March 07, 2010, 01:52:44 pm
Nope, this one: http://www.getchu.com/soft.phtml?id=24902
The one you linked *might* work but I cannot guarantee the engine will be exactly the same as the 2/24/2006 one. If you buy the wrong one and decide to just pirate the correct version then I don't think anyone would care.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Sirf*palot on March 10, 2010, 07:58:17 pm
NOOOOOO, why did I have to read damn wiki, now I know what alternative V is...........................(like summarized into one sentence).


Well then, hope I'll forget that tidbit by the time translation comes out.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Gore on March 10, 2010, 09:32:16 pm
mmmm...if someone were upset over that kind of spoiler I wonder how many people were pissed over my cheerleading post then. I think I even mentioned how Unlimited ended.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Ixrec on March 10, 2010, 10:34:22 pm
My policy is that spoilers of Extra/Unlimited simply don't count. Neither game is good enough to really be "spoiled" in my opinion, so that stuff is all fair game. If anything, hearing that stuff now ups the odds you'll remember it when Alternative is out.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Ixrec on March 12, 2010, 01:43:56 am
Threw some probable completion dates into the forum calendar if anyone cares. My math says the main routes will likely be done on the 28th, assuming I take no more days off.

Took a day off for class registration and final homework assignments, so the predicted dates all moved back one day.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: AQZT on March 12, 2010, 04:06:12 pm
Threw some probable completion dates into the forum calendar if anyone cares. My math says the main routes will likely be done on the 28th, assuming I take no more days off.

Took a day off for class registration and final homework assignments, so the predicted dates all moved back one day.
Lightning fast tl speed: as expected of Ixrec.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Sirf*palot on March 13, 2010, 10:40:27 am
How would the installer work for this anyway. Do I install the game first  and then the patch or would the patch includes an installer for both game and patch etc. Also, since you have to finish extra to install unlimited, how would that work. Separate patches?

The reason I ask is because I heard that Unlimited could only be installed after you finished the two routes in Extra.

Thanks
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Shikiller on March 13, 2010, 10:47:06 am
The patch should be a single one for both Extra and Unlimited, and I think the installer will install both games too.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Ixrec on March 13, 2010, 01:39:36 pm
The patch should be a single one for both Extra and Unlimited, and I think the installer will install both games too.

Correct, it installs both games at once, and since E and U are actually two halves of the same game we will have only one patch for the two of them.

Of course, rUGP being what it is, take everything we say with a grain of salt until an actual working patch is out.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: KoiNoDensetsu on March 17, 2010, 10:02:11 pm
Nope, this one: http://www.getchu.com/soft.phtml?id=24902
The one you linked *might* work but I cannot guarantee the engine will be exactly the same as the 2/24/2006 one. If you buy the wrong one and decide to just pirate the correct version then I don't think anyone would care.

What is the difference in the version Belgaesh linked to?  VNDB lists the 2 disc version as a CD-ROM, but Getchu says it's a DVD... ???
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Ixrec on March 17, 2010, 10:20:08 pm
Nope, this one: http://www.getchu.com/soft.phtml?id=24902
The one you linked *might* work but I cannot guarantee the engine will be exactly the same as the 2/24/2006 one. If you buy the wrong one and decide to just pirate the correct version then I don't think anyone would care.

What is the difference in the version Belgaesh linked to?  VNDB lists the 2 disc version as a CD-ROM, but Getchu says it's a DVD... ???

Details aside, it's probably best to say we simply don't know all the differences between all the versions (hence why he said it *might* work) because you'd have to spend years doing nothing but hacking rUGP to learn them all and whether they'd affect our pseudo-hack. It's not worth anyone's time to figure it out.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Mirrored on March 18, 2010, 08:28:10 pm
Good solid progress and a fairly realistic schedule.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Ixrec on March 24, 2010, 10:53:42 pm
MuvLuv Extra Main Routes are now completely translated. I will thus be taking a break for about 1.5 weeks.

May as well mention a few details I've already decided on and you may have figured out already:
1) Since college is hard, the first week of every academic quarter will be a translation break no matter what. I may also take a second week off if the quarter is especially challenging.
2) If sophomore year proves to be significantly harder than freshman year, I may consider reducing quota to 15kb a day or six days a week instead of the current 20kb seven days a week. This is only a maybe at the moment.
3) The partial MLE patch will not have all images translated, although most of the important ones should be in English, depending on how much gets done before technical issues are resolved. A walkthrough translation *might* also happen in time, but no guarantees.
4) To reiterate, we have no idea when the actual patch will be out. This announcement only concerns completion of the script translations.

For you numbers fans, I have gone ahead and thrown a conservative estimate of Unlimited's completion date onto the calendar (August 18th) and also worked out that this milestone puts the MuvLuv project as a whole (E, U and A) at approximately 15% complete.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: AcroRay on March 25, 2010, 11:57:34 am
D4mn good work!
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Gore on March 25, 2010, 10:03:46 pm
A walkthrough translation *might* also happen in time, but no guarantees.

Pick all choices pertaining to the girl you are trying to acquire. At "where to go" choices, save and trial+error it till you hit the one that activates a scene with the very same girl.

Walkthrough complete.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Ixrec on March 26, 2010, 02:14:34 am
A walkthrough translation *might* also happen in time, but no guarantees.

Pick all choices pertaining to the girl you are trying to acquire. At "where to go" choices, save and trial+error it till you hit the one that activates a scene with the very same girl.

Walkthrough complete.

lol yes MLE is ridiculously easy, but it's still more convenient for people if we can give them precise directions. Like with Inganock, it's easy to beat the Inner Voices segments, but we like giving people the option of not playing the puzzle and focusing their energy on the actual text.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: KoiNoDensetsu on March 26, 2010, 03:55:27 am
As always, thanks for all the hard work.  What made you want to spend so much of your time translating games when you don't get paid? O_O
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Kyon_Geass on March 26, 2010, 11:16:42 am
good question, even if i dont know the answer for that, knowing ixrec, it is to improve his skills in japanese, as translating requires understanding the text completely and then adapting it with the less number of changes to the language one wishes to do it so it sounds natural, but it is loyal to the original work, it really isnt easy stuff, but seems he enjoys doing these kind of things,

also, gratz  ixrec, keep it up :D
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Nagato on March 28, 2010, 12:23:39 am
I would just like to remind people that the patch release date is still unknown. Right now there's a lot of unedited images (Ixrec's fault since he didn't get the translations done until just recently) and there's still QCing to be done. The patch is nowhere near ready for release this month but hopefully something will be ready next month.

The image code still needs a bit of testing but it *seems* to be working fine. The game will be using a proportional font (I actually stopped being lazy, huhuhu) so the text should also look pretty good. The font settings will be a little restrictive (must be MS P Gothic, normal size, non-bold) but you will be able to customize the shadow/outline/antialiasing however you want.

Now for some teaser images:
(http://imgur.com/I6gPV.jpg)
(http://imgur.com/7Gp5S.jpg)
(http://imgur.com/mVWNS.jpg)
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Ixrec on March 28, 2010, 01:45:44 am
Right now there's a lot of unedited images (Ixrec's fault since he didn't get the translations done until just recently)

Sorry ;_;

Though as of today all image tls and the walkthrough tl are done (for Extra).

Although somehow, I still haven't done a readme...

*edit*

Okay now I have one sorta done.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Shikiller on March 29, 2010, 06:15:04 pm
I can't wait to read the secret Akane route.

(http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/9530/akaib.png)
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Ixrec on March 29, 2010, 07:29:31 pm
lol, you and your alternate font.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: KoiNoDensetsu on March 30, 2010, 02:05:04 pm
Lol is there really an Akane path in MuvLuv?  I see age knows who there star is. ;D

But these characters all look so moe.  I think I am a Miku fan already. ^_^
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Ixrec on March 30, 2010, 02:27:17 pm
No, there are no MuvLuv routes/endings/nude or sex scenes involving any KimiNozo charas (that I know of).

>Miku

That a Freudian slip or is age getting involved with the Vocaloid project?
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: KoiNoDensetsu on March 30, 2010, 02:36:30 pm
No, there are no MuvLuv routes/endings/nude or sex scenes involving any KimiNozo charas (that I know of).

>Miku

That a Freudian slip or is age getting involved with the Vocaloid project?

Ah, typo, my bad. xD  I meant Miki.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Shikiller on March 30, 2010, 06:28:01 pm
Nothing wrong with changing your fonts!
This is my favorite one btw:
(http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/6711/sumika2.png)
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Gore on March 31, 2010, 12:19:19 am
Too bad Iraq wasn't around in the Alternative world, they would've been pretty useful. Flying down inside the hives and self-destructing. Strapping themselves with mini g-bombs and leaping at fort classes.

Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: KoiNoDensetsu on April 01, 2010, 04:29:43 pm
So Ixrec, is MuvLuv good even as a moege?  I see you aren't a fan of the ones that aren't Alternative, but didn't mind Shuffle...
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Ixrec on April 01, 2010, 05:03:26 pm
So Ixrec, is MuvLuv good even as a moege?  I see you aren't a fan of the ones that aren't Alternative, but didn't mind Shuffle...

Well it got a 7/10 for a reason, but the real answer to your question is in the subscores.

7/10 (+/-2): Shuffle!
7/10 (+/-1): Muv-Luv

Shuffle got a +2 because for moefags it can be downright awesome.
MuvLuv got a +1 because for moefags it might be excellent.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Nagato on April 01, 2010, 07:13:12 pm
So Ixrec, is MuvLuv good even as a moege?  I see you aren't a fan of the ones that aren't Alternative, but didn't mind Shuffle...
I'm not Ixrec but I have been reading Muv-Luv (I'm not very far though, I'm just after Tsukuyomi's 5 minute speech thing). So far I'd say it's pretty good as a comedy game. Sumika is of course pretty cute. I've had quite a few moments where I laughed in real life because of the misunderstandings involving Meiya. I imagine the game will become a bit dull to me later when the sports stuff starts happening but so far it's decent enough. Don't expect something epic and you shouldn't be (too) disappointed.

For comparison, I tried reading Shuffle! but lost interest in it very fast. I'm not really a moefag so this type of game isn't something I'd normally play.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Ixrec on April 01, 2010, 07:46:08 pm
That being why Shuffle also has a -2.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: KoiNoDensetsu on April 02, 2010, 02:52:04 pm
Hm, it looks like a REALLY good version of moege like Snow Sakura and HinataBokko.  While the artstyle in Shuffle is more moe, the characters in MuvLuv seem like they have better personalities. (And it has Akane!! ;D)
But is there any real plot in non-Alternative MuvLuv, or is it all just moe?
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: AcroRay on April 02, 2010, 03:56:33 pm
But is there any real plot in non-Alternative MuvLuv, or is it all just moe?

Spoil yourself here:

http://www.neechin.net/article/23/muvluv-the-synopsis-project
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Balcerzak on April 02, 2010, 04:02:02 pm
I'm a huge fan of the physics teacher.

She's an insane driver, she's got quite the nice bod, and so far her crowing moment of awesome has her launch into a lecture on parallel computing and shouting

(http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/9122/muvluvthiswillbeonthete.png)

Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: AcroRay on April 02, 2010, 04:42:16 pm
I'm a huge fan of the physics teacher.

Me too.  She's one of the many fun things about the Akane Maniax anime!
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Ixrec on April 02, 2010, 05:45:30 pm
An editor once described Yuuko as "a walking plot device."

And I agree with her being awesome.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Gore on April 03, 2010, 11:08:45 am
Without her the Alternative world is fucked. She did a good job as Takeru's unofficial guardian too, I love the way she raised him.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: AcroRay on April 03, 2010, 07:12:39 pm
And she makes quite the nice Santa, too!    ;)
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: KoiNoDensetsu on April 05, 2010, 04:38:28 pm
I'm a huge fan of the physics teacher.

Me too.  She's one of the many fun things about the Akane Maniax anime!

Lol Akane Maniax was pretty terrible...  And this is coming from an Akane fan.  I will admit it had some fun scenes, but you would absolutely HATE it if you had zero information on KGNE/Muv-Luv.  The eroge was probably much, much better.

Though I will say I started seeing more of Akane's appeal from AM. ;D (and the less crappy KGNE OVA)
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: AcroRay on April 05, 2010, 08:30:07 pm
Awww... I loved the whole 'secret life' Jouji had going there - like Snoopy or Calvin (of Calvin and Hobbes!).  I'd think that would help it stand on its own.  I loved the whole thing.

But, I did get it due to its Muv Luv material, and I had seen the first couple of episodes of KGNE.  It was just such a laugh riot, and a homage to the Super Robo genre, just like I've always felt ML-Unl/Alt was an homage to the mecha operas of the 80s, all wrapped up in a pretty, genre-busting package.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Moogy on April 06, 2010, 02:41:03 pm
Yeah, I honestly kind of liked the Akane Maniax OVA. Seki Tomokazu is GAR man.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: KoiNoDensetsu on April 06, 2010, 08:37:22 pm
Wow, I find it surprising that a KimiNozo fan doesn't like the AM anime as much as everyone else...
I'll admit that it was funny and that I enjoyed it, but it was in a "This anime sucks so bad it is good" type of way.  I just thought it could have been done much better.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Ixrec on April 13, 2010, 01:29:14 am
Patch soon.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: 3Pies on April 13, 2010, 07:51:00 am
Huzzah.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Catastrophe on April 13, 2010, 01:43:28 pm
define "soon"....
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Nagato on April 13, 2010, 02:21:26 pm
Soon soon. Assuming nothing unexpected happens, tonight soon.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: KoiNoDensetsu on April 13, 2010, 04:44:21 pm
Ammy continues to bring out extremely fast translations. ;D
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Ixrec on April 13, 2010, 08:20:46 pm
It's up now. Enjoy your Sumika.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: KoiNoDensetsu on April 14, 2010, 10:47:31 pm
Sumika is moe. ;D  I didn't expect her to be a tsundere from the moe screens I had seen of her.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: HashiriyaR32 on April 17, 2010, 11:12:28 pm
I present....

Takumi Fujiwara!

(http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/2757/takumilimo.jpg)

Seriously, he's seems to be a fusion of Takumi Fujiwara and Ryosuke Takahashi from Initial D, while sharing the latter character's surname and voice actor.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Trombe on April 18, 2010, 06:00:49 am
Fuck the haters, I'm from /m/ and loved EXTRA.

Yeah I really thank you guys for this, I was interested in Muvluv for years but couldn't read it.

Miki route when? Also this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ote0ict501Y&fmt=18


Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: kViN on April 18, 2010, 10:29:47 am
Fuck the haters, I'm from /m/ and loved EXTRA.

Yeah I really thank you guys for this, I was interested in Muvluv for years but couldn't read it.

Miki route when? Also this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ote0ict501Y&fmt=18

I'm glad people from /m/ can enjoy this despite it being pretty much the embodiment of what the board dislikes, such as harem and lighthearted, high school comedy. You probably even got more mecha references than me, which must have made it more interesting.

Also, I see your video and raise it to http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDcNbh25eW4
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Shiyumi on April 18, 2010, 10:58:13 am
Can someone give me Muv-Luv Alternative eng patch link,PLEASE? :'(
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Nagato on April 18, 2010, 11:12:03 am
Can someone give me Muv-Luv Alternative eng patch link,PLEASE? :'(
I'm not sure if I should ban you for being an idiot or let the troll pick at you.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Ixrec on April 18, 2010, 01:54:33 pm
Miki route when?

Depends on how slow I am on these side routes. At this rate, I'll be done with translating Miki's route (last of the side routes) in about 2.5 weeks, so unless some new technical problems crop up I'd guesstimate 3 weeks for a full Extra patch.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: KoiNoDensetsu on April 18, 2010, 07:28:09 pm
Can someone give me Muv-Luv Alternative eng patch link,PLEASE? :'(
I'm not sure if I should ban you for being an idiot or let the troll pick at you.

So hostile... >_>
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Ixrec on April 18, 2010, 08:26:40 pm
Can someone give me Muv-Luv Alternative eng patch link,PLEASE? :'(
I'm not sure if I should ban you for being an idiot or let the troll pick at you.

So hostile... >_>

Run a translation group yourself and see how you feel about such questions then. ^^
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: KoiNoDensetsu on April 18, 2010, 08:58:13 pm
Can someone give me Muv-Luv Alternative eng patch link,PLEASE? :'(
I'm not sure if I should ban you for being an idiot or let the troll pick at you.

So hostile... >_>

Run a translation group yourself and see how you feel about such questions then. ^^

I would just ignore it instead of taking my time to reply.  Hostility leads nowhere.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Ixrec on April 18, 2010, 09:52:25 pm
Can someone give me Muv-Luv Alternative eng patch link,PLEASE? :'(
I'm not sure if I should ban you for being an idiot or let the troll pick at you.

So hostile... >_>

Run a translation group yourself and see how you feel about such questions then. ^^

I would just ignore it instead of taking my time to reply.  Hostility leads nowhere.

Which is exactly what we'd do to all future instances of that question.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: KoiNoDensetsu on April 19, 2010, 06:19:18 pm
Can someone give me Muv-Luv Alternative eng patch link,PLEASE? :'(
I'm not sure if I should ban you for being an idiot or let the troll pick at you.

So hostile... >_>

Run a translation group yourself and see how you feel about such questions then. ^^

I would just ignore it instead of taking my time to reply.  Hostility leads nowhere.

Which is exactly what we'd do to all future instances of that question.

Which should simply be done the first time.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Ixrec on April 19, 2010, 06:32:04 pm
Can someone give me Muv-Luv Alternative eng patch link,PLEASE? :'(
I'm not sure if I should ban you for being an idiot or let the troll pick at you.

So hostile... >_>

Run a translation group yourself and see how you feel about such questions then. ^^

I would just ignore it instead of taking my time to reply.  Hostility leads nowhere.

Which is exactly what we'd do to all future instances of that question.

Which should simply be done the first time.

*wonders how long it'll be until you realize I'm only doing this to make a pretty quote pyramid*
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: KoiNoDensetsu on April 19, 2010, 06:38:40 pm
Can someone give me Muv-Luv Alternative eng patch link,PLEASE? :'(
I'm not sure if I should ban you for being an idiot or let the troll pick at you.

So hostile... >_>

Run a translation group yourself and see how you feel about such questions then. ^^

I would just ignore it instead of taking my time to reply.  Hostility leads nowhere.

Which is exactly what we'd do to all future instances of that question.

Which should simply be done the first time.

*wonders how long it'll be until you realize I'm only doing this to make a pretty quote pyramid*

Ixrec avoids topic yet again!! :O

But what fun! ^_^  Reminds me of Project #3 poll days...
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Ixrec on April 19, 2010, 06:41:25 pm
Can someone give me Muv-Luv Alternative eng patch link,PLEASE? :'(
I'm not sure if I should ban you for being an idiot or let the troll pick at you.

So hostile... >_>

Run a translation group yourself and see how you feel about such questions then. ^^

I would just ignore it instead of taking my time to reply.  Hostility leads nowhere.

Which is exactly what we'd do to all future instances of that question.

Which should simply be done the first time.

*wonders how long it'll be until you realize I'm only doing this to make a pretty quote pyramid*

Ixrec avoids topic yet again!! :O

But what fun! ^_^  Reminds me of Project #3 poll days...

[17:37:52] <Nagato> >Which should simply be done the first time.
[17:38:05] <Nagato> maybe i'll let loose some of my anger on him next time
[17:38:23] <Nagato> stressed nagato is not a nice nagato

Also, inb4 this gets moved to the spam forum.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: KoiNoDensetsu on April 19, 2010, 06:42:40 pm
Can someone give me Muv-Luv Alternative eng patch link,PLEASE? :'(
I'm not sure if I should ban you for being an idiot or let the troll pick at you.

So hostile... >_>

Run a translation group yourself and see how you feel about such questions then. ^^

I would just ignore it instead of taking my time to reply.  Hostility leads nowhere.

Which is exactly what we'd do to all future instances of that question.

Which should simply be done the first time.

*wonders how long it'll be until you realize I'm only doing this to make a pretty quote pyramid*

Ixrec avoids topic yet again!! :O

But what fun! ^_^  Reminds me of Project #3 poll days...

[17:37:52] <Nagato> >Which should simply be done the first time.
[17:38:05] <Nagato> maybe i'll let loose some of my anger on him next time
[17:38:23] <Nagato> stressed nagato is not a nice nagato

Also, inb4 this gets moved to the spam forum.

Nagato forgot his happy pills again. >_<
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: HashiriyaR32 on April 19, 2010, 08:24:30 pm
Alright, enough with the chain posting.

Also, jumping back and forth between the 2008 remake of KGNE and Muv-Luv is pretty interesting.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Ixrec on April 19, 2010, 08:29:15 pm
Alright, enough with the chain posting.

Also, jumping back and forth between the 2008 remake of KGNE and Muv-Luv is pretty interesting.

Ditto.

(translating Chizuru's route and reading Haruka route plus Mitsuki bad ends)
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: HashiriyaR32 on April 19, 2010, 09:34:11 pm
Okay, I just went *jawdrop* and XD at the Lancia Stratos vs Limo race.  I had been made aware of such an event years ago when a friend of mine showed me a muv-luv  x initial d crossover doujin featuring Yuuko and her Stratos, but this is the first time I've actually experienced the scene for myself.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: KoiNoDensetsu on April 20, 2010, 12:15:04 am
Alright, enough with the chain posting.

Also, jumping back and forth between the 2008 remake of KGNE and Muv-Luv is pretty interesting.

Ditto.

(translating Chizuru's route and reading Haruka route plus Mitsuki bad ends)

Off topic, but do the after-stories unlock right after finishing a character's good ending in KGNE? (assuming you are playing the improved ~Latest Edition~ remake)  I have never played much past the 1st chapter because I can't understand everything, and I have always wondered about the after-stories.

Anyway, finished Sumika and Meiya's endings.
EX has turned out to be one of my favorite moege.  While it isn't anything amazing, it doesn't have many ridiculously tedious scenes like in most eroge of this type.  Though I will say that the common path should have been shorter...
Anyway, drama at the end was... okay.  It felt like a watered-down version of Haruka and Mitsuki's path in KGNE.  With tons of added absurdities: (rot13'nd (http://www.retards.org/projects/rot13/)) V zrna, frevbhfyl, gur fghss univat gb qb jvgu Zrvln jnf evqvphybhf!  "V zrg n obl jura V jnf n gbqqyre.  Ur fnvq ur jbhyq zneel zr!  Fb V qribgr zlfrys gb uvz nyn Nv Lbev Nbfuv~!  V rkcrpg uvz gb whfg erzrzore fhpu n cebzvfr rira gubhtu jr jrer cebonoyl fgvyy va cerfpubby.  Bu, zl cneragf chg zr hc sbe nqbcgvba orpnhfr V unir n gjva (jub jvyy cebonoyl ghea bhg gb or rivy va Hayvzvgrq/Nygreangvir), naq gjvaf ner onq yhpx!  Naq gura zl arj qnq qvrq naq V orpnzr gur urve gb na vafnaryl rkcrafvir pbzcnal. -XaQ cebonoyl sbetbg zber purrfl qrgnvyf-"
But it was still slightly moving in some scenes.  V tbg grnel rlrq jura Zrvln fnvq ershfrq gb fnl "onv-onv" orpnhfr fur xarj fur jbhyq frr uvz ntnva... ;_;

So yeah, I liked EX more than I thought I would.

BTW, how do you unlock the extra section?  I want to see the CGs... >_>
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Ixrec on April 20, 2010, 01:35:21 am
I'm not playing Latest Edition (torrent I found ages ago was DVD specification for some reason, meh).

I believe CGs are unlocked after playing Unlimited.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: HashiriyaR32 on April 20, 2010, 12:08:49 pm
I started a Muv-Luv page on TVTropes last night, and I'm requesting knowledgeable people to contribute to it.  I made it out of interest of the series, but since I don't know much about it, I had to source some of the content for the page from wiki.  Hopefully such content can be succeeded by people who have played the games and are willing to contribute.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: AQZT on April 23, 2010, 09:17:20 pm
I just finished the part where Yuuko gives her whole lecture on parallel computing, and now, I have a question:
Is it weird if I actually found the lecture to be interesting?
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Ixrec on April 23, 2010, 09:29:21 pm
I just finished the part where Yuuko gives her whole lecture on parallel computing, and now, I have a question:
Is it weird if I actually found the lecture to be interesting?

No, it means you have a chance of genuinely understanding everything she says in Alternative. Which is an epic win for you.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: KoiNoDensetsu on April 23, 2010, 09:59:58 pm
I just finished the part where Yuuko gives her whole lecture on parallel computing, and now, I have a question:
Is it weird if I actually found the lecture to be interesting?

Yes.  How dare you enjoy the eroge you play!
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Mirrored on April 23, 2010, 10:27:30 pm
Can't wait til all the routes are done. Keep up the good work.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Ixrec on April 23, 2010, 10:47:00 pm
Can't wait til all the routes are done. Keep up the good work.

Not that the side routes are worth waiting for, buuuuut thanks, will do.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Belgaesh on April 25, 2010, 05:09:11 am
Thank you guys for translating the series.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Mirrored on April 25, 2010, 06:08:53 am
Not that the side routes are worth waiting for, buuuuut thanks, will do.

I do 100% playthroughs in one sitting, for pretty much everything. My work is pretty intense with the 14 hour days so I have to use vacation days to actually have the time to go through this stuff.

Not that I mind, as most VNs are better with one play through.

Though I'm out of office in Miami for a week meeting with clients... so I have a ton of downtime. But my copy of Muv Luv is in San Francisco. Hmm, I probably should have tested to make sure it works...
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: KoiNoDensetsu on April 27, 2010, 05:40:21 pm
I miss playing Muv-Luv.  I honestly enjoyed that eroge more than I thought I would.  Best moege I have played.

Hurry up so I can play Miki's path~
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Shikiller on April 27, 2010, 08:26:31 pm
Did you read Marimo's path ? It's part of the common path.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: KoiNoDensetsu on April 27, 2010, 09:00:34 pm
Did you read Marimo's path ? It's part of the common path.

Yeah, I finished Mariomo's "path".  I loved it. xD;;  I didn't expect it to end like that.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: BeadlyDastard on April 28, 2010, 01:10:27 am
That "Round Two" was genuinely terrifying.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Sheeta on April 28, 2010, 08:10:57 pm
Quick news bulletin: Translation will be paused for a few days while Ixrec gets his laptop sorted out. He's made the age-old mistake of accidentally spilling water over his keyboard ::) No MuvLuv related data was lost, since we keep everything up to date on the SVN, and he says he should be back by the weekend.

So yeah, now, who wants to make a conspiracy theory thread in the Spam forum?
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Kyon_Geass on April 28, 2010, 09:58:40 pm
Quick news bulletin: Translation will be paused for a few days while Ixrec gets his laptop sorted out. He's made the age-old mistake of accidentally spilling water over his keyboard ::) No MuvLuv related data was lost, since we keep everything up to date on the SVN, and he says he should be back by the weekend.

So yeah, now, who wants to make a conspiracy theory thread in the Spam forum?

I think we have enough with the C&D thread to get gloomy about, also, we all know masat01 was the one who did it (??), so there is really nothing to discuss about conspiracies here, no, there is nothing to discuss about that (?)
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Shikiller on April 28, 2010, 10:27:26 pm
OMG the whole project is lost!

(Also, why is Spin editing everyone's post?)
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: KoiNoDensetsu on April 29, 2010, 12:39:32 am
So yeah, now, who wants to make a conspiracy theory thread in the Spam forum?

The conspiracy (http://amaterasu.is.moelicious.be/forums/index.php?topic=213.0)
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Ixrec on April 29, 2010, 06:18:47 pm
Most of what KnD said is a fabrication designed by minori to distract you from the fact that I have returned.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: AQZT on April 29, 2010, 08:02:35 pm
Most of what KnD said is a fabrication designed by minori to distract you from the fact that I have returned.
AAAAAARRRRRUUUU HEEEEEEEEIIRRRUUUU IKKUUSURECU!
(*CG song plays*)
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: KoiNoDensetsu on April 29, 2010, 10:10:54 pm
Most of what KnD said is a fabrication designed by minori to distract you from the fact that I have returned.

Un, un. コクンコクン  Those Minori fiends!
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Kyon_Geass on April 30, 2010, 10:45:53 am
Most of what KnD said is a fabrication designed by minori to distract you from the fact that I have returned.

Un, un. コクンコクン  Those Minori fiends!

They need to get runned over âge style.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: KoiNoDensetsu on April 30, 2010, 01:40:47 pm
Most of what KnD said is a fabrication designed by minori to distract you from the fact that I have returned.

Un, un. コクンコクン  Those Minori fiends!

They need to get runned over âge style.

(cue Rumbling Hearts OP with Ef cast)
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: HashiriyaR32 on April 30, 2010, 05:21:49 pm
*Gets into a red Mazda RX-7 and barrels towards the cast*
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: KoiNoDensetsu on April 30, 2010, 08:11:29 pm
Oh!  Looks like the NNL staff is joining! 8)
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Nagato on May 02, 2010, 08:27:58 pm
So, as it turns out, rUGP is more of a pain than I thought. I originally planned to use Kiminozo LE's engine (5.81.03) for whatever version of Muv-Luv Alternative we decided to translate and while it loads just fine it seems, on closer inspection you can tell there's some small incompatiblities. For instance, they removed the nLayeredEffect option which was used for layered voices. That's not *too* huge of a problem but it is noticeable. It's not worth giving up for a slightly better engine in my opinion. For giggles, here's a picture of Muv-Luv Extra 18+ running on the 5.81.03 engine. There's some problems with the zoom command so enjoy your HUGE SUMIKA.

(http://i.imgur.com/Wutyf.jpg)
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: gabgrave on May 04, 2010, 01:50:52 am
I just finished the part where Yuuko gives her whole lecture on parallel computing, and now, I have a question:
Is it weird if I actually found the lecture to be interesting?

No, it means you have a chance of genuinely understanding everything she says in Alternative. Which is an epic win for you.

If you liked that, you should wiki up on 'von Neumann probe'. See also single electron and quantum physics theory. If those ain't enough, look up multiple dimension bubble theory as well.

Some nice reads that have a somewhat common topic to MLA are Starship Troopers, Alien, Parallelities.

I cannot describe the feeling when I played MLA and found all my favorite theories and anime combined into one media... only other author that comes close is John Ringo's Voyage of the Space Bubble Series.

PS. the ending song for Unlimited, Songs of a Distant Earth, has been noted to be the same title as The Songs of Distant Earth by Arthur C. Clarke.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Ixrec on May 04, 2010, 12:26:53 pm
The MuvLuv Extra translation is complete. I am now on break as described earlier.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Kyon_Geass on May 04, 2010, 01:15:15 pm
The MuvLuv Extra translation is complete. I am now on break as described earlier.
お目出度う、イクスレク先生
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Etienne on May 04, 2010, 04:00:27 pm
Спасибо за перевод マブラヴ エクストラ. :P 

Im waitning for the final patch (especially Kei/Miki routes).
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Nagato on May 04, 2010, 07:07:02 pm
In case anyone cares about the stats:

Extra: (roughly, there was something that needed to be fixed mid-translation for these scripts) 1392.15 KB, 35375 lines
Unlimited: 1139.94 KB, 27587 lines
Alternative: 2737.28 KB, 53418 lines

EX+UL: 2532.09 KB, 62962 lines
EX+UL+Alt: 5253.50 KB, 116050 lines
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: KoiNoDensetsu on May 04, 2010, 07:24:33 pm
Thanks, Ikkusukun~ <3 
-waits for Nagato to code the Extra patch-
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Ixrec on May 04, 2010, 07:26:53 pm
Thanks, Ikkusukun~ <3 
-waits for Nagato to code the Extra patch-

You're actually waiting for editing and QCing. Also image edts.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: KoiNoDensetsu on May 04, 2010, 07:32:16 pm
Thanks, Ikkusukun~ <3 
-waits for Nagato to code the Extra patch-

You're actually waiting for editing and QCing. Also image edts.

And Nagato to code it all into one patch.

-waits for Ammy to get their act together-  An entire day (?) after Ixrec finishes the translation, and a patch isn't out yet?!  OUTRAGE!!!!  I haven't seen such slow progress since the last YandereTranslations project!
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Nagato on May 04, 2010, 09:10:02 pm
And Nagato to code it all into one patch.
It takes me a few minutes tops to do this. So you're not waiting for me. :P
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Shikiller on May 04, 2010, 11:02:21 pm
I love how Ayamine is the best character in all the side routes. (Not counting Sumika and Meiya.)
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: gabgrave on May 04, 2010, 11:55:05 pm
Gonna miss sumika... must play her route a few more times...
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Kiru on May 04, 2010, 11:55:56 pm
In case anyone cares about the stats:

Extra: (roughly, there was something that needed to be fixed mid-translation for these scripts) 1392.15 KB, 35375 lines
Unlimited: 1139.94 KB, 27587 lines
Alternative: 2737.28 KB, 53418 lines

EX+UL: 2532.09 KB, 62962 lines
EX+UL+Alt: 5253.50 KB, 116050 lines

Hm, Alt is shorter than I thought. Well, vndb isn't really accurate with its length-information, so it's not a big surprise. Whatever.
More importantly: 1/4 is already done. :)
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: gabgrave on May 05, 2010, 12:07:44 am
In case anyone cares about the stats:

Extra: (roughly, there was something that needed to be fixed mid-translation for these scripts) 1392.15 KB, 35375 lines
Unlimited: 1139.94 KB, 27587 lines
Alternative: 2737.28 KB, 53418 lines

EX+UL: 2532.09 KB, 62962 lines
EX+UL+Alt: 5253.50 KB, 116050 lines

Hm, Alt is shorter than I thought. Well, vndb isn't really accurate with its length-information, so it's not a big surprise. Whatever.
More importantly: 1/4 is already done. :)

Kinda makes sense that the one with multiple routes has more text then the one with 1 route. Then again, MLA has so many chapters it evens out.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: gabgrave on May 05, 2010, 11:46:13 am
NOOOO i just missed the pic for Sakaki's 2010 birthday!
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: kViN on May 05, 2010, 01:38:53 pm
Gonna miss sumika... must play her route a few more times...

I've skipped through Sumika's route after reading every side path because I feel horrible for not choosing her.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: gabgrave on May 05, 2010, 06:31:04 pm
Gonna miss sumika... must play her route a few more times...

I've skipped through Sumika's route after reading every side path because I feel horrible for not choosing her.

You'll feel more horrible if you play MLA without going through her path... like i did...
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: maitrenuage on May 06, 2010, 09:30:24 am
Sorry if it's already been asked but in what order should we play ML ?
And what about MuvLuv ? Since it's not translated, should i watch the anime before playing alternative, extra, ... ?
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: kViN on May 06, 2010, 10:52:10 am
Sorry if it's already been asked but in what order should we play ML ?
And what about MuvLuv ? Since it's not translated, should i watch the anime before playing alternative, extra, ... ?

Despite its confusing name, Extra is neither a sequel nor a fandisc, just the first part of the original game so you can start reading it already.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Ixrec on May 06, 2010, 11:07:20 am
Sorry if it's already been asked but in what order should we play ML ?
And what about MuvLuv ? Since it's not translated, should i watch the anime before playing alternative, extra, ... ?

Read the readme in the patch. It explains things.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: maitrenuage on May 06, 2010, 01:53:14 pm
ok thanks. I'll do that.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: KoiNoDensetsu on May 06, 2010, 09:07:56 pm
Random, but I think Miki really should hit on Mikoto instead of Ayamine.  Miki and Ayamine just don't make a good yuri couple...  Pairing the innocent loli with the innocent shota would be so moe!  Mikoto would always avoid Miki's advances, creating frustration within Miki.  Miki plots to kidnap Mikoto and rapes him in a bondage H-scene! 8D
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: AQZT on May 07, 2010, 03:56:34 pm
Random, but I think Miki really should hit on Mikoto instead of Ayamine.  Miki and Ayamine just don't make a good yuri couple...  Pairing the innocent loli with the innocent shota would be so moe!  Mikoto would always avoid Miki's advances, creating frustration within Miki.  Miki plots to kidnap Mikoto and rapes him in a bondage H-scene! 8D
I agree with you about TamaxMikoto, but... (Highlight for spoilerzzz)
You really shouldn't be calling them a lolixshota couple, considering that Mikoto spends most of its screen time in ML and in MLA as a GIRL (Alternative universe Mikoto is female). Therefore they are the best YURI couple ever!!!
And ew Koi, you like female domination? What is WRONG with you??!
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: KoiNoDensetsu on May 07, 2010, 11:28:44 pm
Random, but I think Miki really should hit on Mikoto instead of Ayamine.  Miki and Ayamine just don't make a good yuri couple...  Pairing the innocent loli with the innocent shota would be so moe!  Mikoto would always avoid Miki's advances, creating frustration within Miki.  Miki plots to kidnap Mikoto and rapes him in a bondage H-scene! 8D
I agree with you about TamaxMikoto, but... (Highlight for spoilerzzz)
You really shouldn't be calling them a lolixshota couple, considering that Mikoto spends most of its screen time in ML and in MLA as a GIRL (Alternative universe Mikoto is female). Therefore they are the best YURI couple ever!!!
And ew Koi, you like female domination? What is WRONG with you??!

(reply to spoilers)
WHAAAAT??  They ruined the moe-ness of a TamaxMiko path by turning him into a girl.  Mikoto is more like a tomboy/very girlish guy.  If he is actually a girl, it ruins Miki's love for him...  If Miki were to be in a yuri relationship, it should be with a tsundere like Sumika.
Sumika: "Ahh, Takeru-chan! ...De.  It's her..."
Miki: "Sumitan!  Ohayou! :DD -embraces Sumika-"
Sumika: "Ta-ta-takeru-chan...  Help me! ;_;"
(Takeru does nothing)
Sumika: "Hey, are you listening?!  ...GAHH!!"
Miki gropes Sumika.
Miki:  "Uwaaa~  Sumitan, your oppai is getting bigger! :D"

...There needs to be a scene like that. ;_;

Quote
And ew Koi, you like female domination? What is WRONG with you??!

LMAO, any domination is great imo. >:D  Though unless it is well written, I usually prefer it in yuri/yaoi though...  It would be cute for Miki to be dominating Mikoto because he is an innocent pyua pyua boi and she is an energetic loli.  It wouldn't be like a dominatrix though. (Marimo scene was gross...)  Age lost their opportunity to take advantage of this in EX...
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: KoiNoDensetsu on May 07, 2010, 11:36:18 pm
Anyway, finished Miki's path.  It wasn't great, but not as bad as I thought.  Basically just a plotless excuse to give Miki a path.  But the thing about Muv-Luv is that even though the plot isn't amazing, the characters don't piss me off like they do in most games of this type.  Sure, Chizuru can get on my nerves, but they at least act realistic on moe eroge terms.  What I hate about games like Kanon/ONE is that the characters act in ridiculously unrealistic ways ("EVERYTHING IS MY FAULT AND I MUST CONTINUE GANBATTEING FOR SHUJINKOU-SAN!!") and have moe fails. (excluding Ayu~ <3)  ML doesn't have realistic characters on human terms, but at least they act somewhat like their age.
Plus, ML is actually funny.  That evil doll in Miki's path cracked me up.

But what was with Suiko's hair?  She looked like she was trying to cosplay as Sailor Moon! (and failed)

(http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii259/OutragedMuffin/omanko.jpg)

Plus, her eyes look like baby vaginas when she isn't wearing glasses...

Anyway, Chizuru's path is next~  Saving Ayamine for last.

Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: KoiNoDensetsu on May 08, 2010, 07:38:08 pm
Finished Sakaki's route.  Fairly boring compared to Miki's route.  All of the drama was forced, and Chizuru got on my nerves a lot of the time. (Though I do like her more after her route than I did before I played it)  I mean, when she got pissed at Takeru for finding out about her past and was like "AHAHAH SO YOU FIND OUT MY SECRET SO YOU CAN FEEL BETTER ABOUT SELF?!  YOU JUST WANT TO LAUGH AT WATASHI??  SAITEI!!  KIRAI!! -pan-", I just wanted Takeru to go yandere on Chizuru. >_>
But I did feel bad for her with her parent issue.  Her mom doesn't deserve Chizuru after she let men abuse her...

And what the fuck was with her H-scene?  After the school let them off, I really doubt they would think of having sex at school.
Side note, but Japan really needs to change their obscenity laws if this needs a mosaic:

*censored~ Nobody wants to see that : P - Sheeta*
Who wouldn't want to see Chizuru's sexshii panties?? :O - KoiNoDensetsu

Just saying.

Oh, and Akane is ugly in Muv-Luv.  So ugly.  They ruined a goddess! ;_;
Ayamine next~
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: AQZT on May 08, 2010, 09:56:04 pm
Finished Sakaki's route.  Fairly boring compared to Miki's route.  All of the drama was forced, and Chizuru got on my nerves a lot of the time. (Though I do like her more after her route than I did before I played it)  I mean, when she got pissed at Takeru for finding out about her past and was like "AHAHAH SO YOU FIND OUT MY SECRET SO YOU CAN FEEL BETTER ABOUT SELF?!  YOU JUST WANT TO LAUGH AT WATASHI??  SAITEI!!  KIRAI!! -pan-", I just wanted Takeru to go yandere on Chizuru. >_>
But I did feel bad for her with her parent issue.  Her mom doesn't deserve Chizuru after she let men abuse her...

And what the fuck was with her H-scene?  After the school let them off, I really doubt they would think of having sex at school.
Side note, but Japan really needs to change their obscenity laws if this needs a mosaic:

*censored~ Nobody wants to see that : P - Sheeta*
Who wouldn't want to see Chizuru's sexshii panties?? :O - KoiNoDensetsu

Just saying.

Oh, and Akane is ugly in Muv-Luv.  So ugly.  They ruined a goddess! ;_;
Ayamine next~
I didn't get to see the picture  :(. Post a link?
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: DaRkWhim on May 08, 2010, 10:32:16 pm
Just wanted to say thanks for translating the game.
So far I've played the Sumika, Meiya, and Ayamine routes.
In my opinion the common route was actually more enjoyable than the routes themselves.
The Meiya and Sumika routes were pretty much the exact same thing, except for the H-scene.
And the Ayamine route(who was one of my characters at first.) was torture, just because it somehow managed to irritate me at every turn.
One thing I really didn't like was that it was like a couple of hours of well executed moe and at like ten minutes before the end they suddenly decide to introduce crappy drama that only served to make me like some of the characters less.
Not sure if I'm going to play Sakaki and Miki's routes. just because I don't generally like Sakaki's type and I'm kind of afraid of being disillusioned in Miki's route like I was in Ayamine's.
But overall I enjoyed it, since I was actually craving something that was pure moemoe, and no story.
My thirst for Tsundere, and Onna Bugeisha has been quenched (now all I need is a pompous Ojou-sama type)

Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: tjfarmer on May 09, 2010, 11:03:42 am
About the Mikoto discussion going on (highlight to see)

Wasn't it implied that 'he' was a girl in Extra as well? When Takeru and Mikoto go into the bath together, Mikoto is kinda hiding away from Takeru, and covering 'his' chest with a towel. Then Takeru starts grabbing the section between the elbow and the shoulders, commenting on how it is chubby there. It's not uncommon for that section to be.... a little fatter on average for girls.

Thus I conclude that Mikoto is a girl in Extra.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: KoiNoDensetsu on May 09, 2010, 02:15:49 pm
Finished Sakaki's route.  Fairly boring compared to Miki's route.  All of the drama was forced, and Chizuru got on my nerves a lot of the time. (Though I do like her more after her route than I did before I played it)  I mean, when she got pissed at Takeru for finding out about her past and was like "AHAHAH SO YOU FIND OUT MY SECRET SO YOU CAN FEEL BETTER ABOUT SELF?!  YOU JUST WANT TO LAUGH AT WATASHI??  SAITEI!!  KIRAI!! -pan-", I just wanted Takeru to go yandere on Chizuru. >_>
But I did feel bad for her with her parent issue.  Her mom doesn't deserve Chizuru after she let men abuse her...

And what the fuck was with her H-scene?  After the school let them off, I really doubt they would think of having sex at school.
Side note, but Japan really needs to change their obscenity laws if this needs a mosaic:

*censored~ Nobody wants to see that : P - Sheeta*
Who wouldn't want to see Chizuru's sexshii panties?? :O - KoiNoDensetsu

Just saying.

Oh, and Akane is ugly in Muv-Luv.  So ugly.  They ruined a goddess! ;_;
Ayamine next~
I didn't get to see the picture  :(. Post a link?

Check your inbox~

Quote
About the Mikoto discussion going on (highlight to see)

Ah, that makes sense.  I thought it was just appealing to shota fans in that scene. (well, it probably was, but was also used as foreshadowing)  If only Mikoto was a little less loli (ala Chris from Princess Waltz), I would approve of "him" being a trap...

Anyway, I finished all of the EX routes.  A great moege, but the side routes sucked for the most part.  Sumika and Meiya's "routes" (really just different endings) were the only part of EX that had good drama.  Chizuru's path sucked because all it was was cheesy drama that dragged on too long and was boring. (Why did they have to add drama on her last day after everything was solved)  Ayamine's path was okay.  Miki's path was mostly plotless, but moe.
I actually think I liked Marimo's path the most out of all the side routes.  It was short enough to keep from being boring and yet surprising.  Too bad she didn't have a full route. (with yandereness, of course)

Oh, one last thing: What was with Akane's hand?

(http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii259/OutragedMuffin/atashinotenoni.jpg)

It's like she is using a twisted lump of fat as a hand. (must have been from the accident...)  Oh well.  At least her VA and personality are still great~

But I miss Sumika already...  Translate the fandisc for me, Ixrec! ;_;
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Ixrec on May 09, 2010, 02:58:43 pm
Fandiscs are so not happening.

And that hand looks perfectly normal to me. It's a bit of an odd pose maybe *tries it* nah it's fine.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: KoiNoDensetsu on May 09, 2010, 04:37:00 pm
Try forming your fingers like Akane does.  It doesn't work. D:  And just look at that over-sized wrist!  Akane isn't that fat.  It looks like she is holding her hip but just happens to have another pair of fingers at the back of her hand.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Spin569874123 on May 09, 2010, 04:40:39 pm
Just sounds like another case of Anime Wrist Syndrome:
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y1/Spin569874123/broken-wrist-ritsu.jpg?t=1273451792)
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Ixrec on May 09, 2010, 05:55:26 pm
Try forming your fingers like Akane does.  It doesn't work. D:  And just look at that over-sized wrist!  Akane isn't that fat.  It looks like she is holding her hip but just happens to have another pair of fingers at the back of her hand.

I tried exactly that. It works, though I find it significantly less comfortable than actually holding my hip.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: KoiNoDensetsu on May 09, 2010, 06:18:55 pm
Try forming your fingers like Akane does.  It doesn't work. D:  And just look at that over-sized wrist!  Akane isn't that fat.  It looks like she is holding her hip but just happens to have another pair of fingers at the back of her hand.

I tried exactly that. It works, though I find it significantly less comfortable than actually holding my hip.

With the current angle her arm is at and the inhuman length she stretches her fingers, such an action could only be preformed with a disjointed hand.  Poor Akane...

@Spin: Lol even though the image failed, I know what you are talking about.  Saw that article a while ago.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Spin569874123 on May 09, 2010, 06:37:12 pm
Fixed.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: KoiNoDensetsu on May 10, 2010, 11:36:59 am
Is the cursor supposed to change from a normal white icon in Muv-Luv?  I noticed Panic's post in the error thread had a blue cursor.  Mine is the same white cursor as always.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Ixrec on May 10, 2010, 07:06:56 pm
Minor bump to wrist discussion.

Extravaganza's Yumemi has that same pose.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: KoiNoDensetsu on May 10, 2010, 08:20:14 pm
Minor bump to wrist discussion.

Extravaganza's Yumemi has that same pose.

But is Yumemi a victim of Lethal Fat Wrist Sydrome?  I think not. (or at least I hope not...)
Too bad she has AWS though...  Someone should start an organization for these poor anime characters.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: w3g on May 22, 2010, 05:59:54 am
My first post in the forum  :)

Usually I don't care one bit for eroge translation projects since I read them in Japanese just fine, but when it comes to translating Muv Luv, my favorite game ever, I simply can't ignore this project.

You guys have a good team in place and the translation speed is fantastic, so you probably won't need any extra help, but I will offer it anyways. :P If you need any translation help, in case Ixrec gets burned out or kidnapped by real life, send me a message.

A bit of info about me: Fluent in Chinese, English, Japanese, can translate between any of them. Did Japanese -> English fansubbing, Japanese -> Chinese novel translation. In college for another 2 years, meaning lots of free time.

Am badly addicted to multiple forms of japanese 2d, especially eroge. Usually I prefer the action genre games(went through everything from Alicesoft, Eushully, Giga etc), which Ixrec seems to stay away from. So this comes as quite a surprise to see him pick this impossibly long action game for translating. But then again, maybe it is no surprise, since Muv Luv is the best game ever!!!!!! (rabid fan mode)
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Kyon_Geass on May 22, 2010, 05:59:54 pm
need any translation help, in case Ixrec gets burned out or kidnapped by real life
please, don't kill ixrec verbally :p either way, ixrec wouldn't die even if you kill him (?)
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Ixrec on May 22, 2010, 06:14:55 pm
My first thought, w3g, is perhaps you would like to do one of the fandiscs.

And yes kyon, I don't die even if you kill me. I've set it up so that I'll be reincarnated as Rexci. Or something.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: w3g on May 22, 2010, 06:50:46 pm
The Supplement fandisc is the only one worth doing, since the other 2 short stories aren't interesting enough plus the discs are near impossible to find. Altered Fable feels too long-winded and dull compared to Alternative, and there is too little connection between the two that it feels more like a let-down, so probably not worth the effort.

To translate Supplement, there needs to be a very very good image editor to process those hundreds of Rumbling Angel cards. Even in the original japanese, that card game is hard to understand, the AI is wayyy too good, and you must win in order to proceed with the story(H-scene after winning, though most people would be too tired to enjoy them). I can hear the players' screams of agony already...

That said, I still think Supplement is fun and the story is worth the time. I will do the translation for Supplement if someone would help with image editing.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Ixrec on May 22, 2010, 09:36:10 pm
Noted. Our hacker won't do it, so you might be on your own there.

*edit*

Wow, that sounded evil. Probably should've mentioned that sooner =_=

I'm actually disappointed to hear Altered Fable isn't the most worthwhile fandisc. Of course, one could always translate only a portion of it (say Total Eclipse).
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: w3g on May 22, 2010, 11:37:16 pm
That sounded evil indeed  :o time to register for Hacking 101 next term.

Altered Fable is a fandisc âge rushed out the door to help fans suffering from オルタ病 after playing Alternative. It is all happy go lucky stuff with no real storyline, and Takeru returned to the same undecided twerp from Extra. Altered Fable is much closer to a fandisc for Muv Luv Extra, and not Unlimited or Alternative.
As for the Total Eclipse portion, the entire included section is about 30 minutes long.
The other included game 暁遙かなり is SLG in Alternative world, but does not contain any Muv Luv characters. It is the hardest SLG I have ever played, but as a rabid fan, I cleared the whole thing on 'real' difficulty without losing a single unit. Won't recommend this game to non-rabid ppl.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Ixrec on May 23, 2010, 02:55:49 am
Interesting, I heard the exact opposite opinion on AF from the last guy who asked to help our project somehow. Though he seemed to like every ML game ever so I'll consider yours more reliable.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: kViN on May 23, 2010, 06:11:54 am
What's up with âge and insane difficulty? I knew the strategy game in Altered Fable was nearly impossible (I sure loved getting gangraped by BETAs) and now you say the Supplement TCG is as hard as that? Thanfuly they will stick to VNs, I don't want to think what would happen if they switched to gameplay.

And speaking of fandiscs, Muvluv Alternative Chronicles Vol.1 comes out in two months ヽ( >∀<)ノ
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Exilion on May 23, 2010, 11:00:39 am
Finished Sasaki's route

Among all the routes I have finished, she has got to be the most annoying char  :-[

Marimo's route shouldn't even be considered a route, more of a dream to me  ;D
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: gabgrave on May 23, 2010, 12:25:01 pm
Holy ***... Age is releasing the after story for Unlimited... YES YES YES!

http://www.age-soft.co.jp/Product/chronicles01/index.html
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: KoiNoDensetsu on May 23, 2010, 04:07:15 pm
Holy ***... Age is releasing the after story for Unlimited... YES YES YES!

http://www.age-soft.co.jp/Product/chronicles01/index.html

I haven't played any of the fan-disks, but with the amount Muv-Luv is getting, it's starting to get ridiculous.  The current fandiscs do look interesting, but I can't imagine it isn't starting to get old. (especially since ML Chronicles has "vol 1" in the title... >_>)
I guess this is age's version of Da Capo: Circus's never-ending money-milking series.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: gabgrave on May 23, 2010, 04:54:12 pm
This one seems to be a compilation of the previous few fandisc stories, with the new. Considering those are all 10min stories, its not much to talk about. But it does provide some nice background to the story, to match those that appear in the magazines about the different warfronts,
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: w3g on May 23, 2010, 06:36:35 pm
Muvluv Alternative Chronicles 1 contents according to homepage:

<spoilers warning on Unlimited and Alternative> (can't find spolier tags... highlight to read)


Unlimited - the day after
Story: After the spaceships successfully departed, the remaining humans started a counter-attack, focused on heavy use of G-bombs. But the side-effects of G-bombs caused large areas of gravitation abnormality, resulting in flooded continents and deserts of crystallized salt. The fight for human survival has entered a new chapter.
Some new characters, plus Marimo.
Script about 250k

Chicken Divers
A renewal of a series released in a previous 2009 Chronicle summer volume, story takes place during the Sado island hive (hive 21) assault operation in Alternative, centered around the team of orbital reentry shell pilots. No further detail on story, but non needed.
There is a reason those reentry shells are called 'flying coffins'...
Script about 35k

Rain Dancers
A renewal of a series released in a previous 2009 Chronicle winter volume, story about the Europe experimental pilot team. Not much details given, but the main artist is 蒔島梓. Love his art.
e.g. http://www.mangaupdates.com/series.html?id=23740


Some extra contents included:
Total Eclipse radio - audio clip
Desktop Accessories - wallpaper and stuff
暁遙かなり 2 trial - SLG (laughs maniacally)
Product News - ?
âge PV collection - ?
âge CM collection - ?


Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: gabgrave on May 23, 2010, 09:34:44 pm
Nice translation, many thanks!

Hopefully they redraw the screens for Chickend Divers and Rain Dancers. The previous release were still quite raw. Only 15mins long.

I'll admit that the parallel worlds in ML is like a make unlimited plots giveaway. But its quite interesting to see what happends in World A, compared to World B, and how they effect each other.

Still waiting for the next volume of the MLA Manga. It should close up some lose ends...
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: KoiNoDensetsu on May 24, 2010, 08:58:38 pm
Hm, so it's not a  compilation of the fandiscs?  It still sounds interesting, but I would prefer them just remake the games. (re-releases are okay)
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: gabgrave on May 24, 2010, 09:06:30 pm
It is a compilation. But includes a new side story too. Hopefully longer then CD and RD though.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: KoiNoDensetsu on May 24, 2010, 09:08:41 pm
It is a compilation. But includes a new side story too. Hopefully longer then CD and RD though.

Which parts are included in this?  All of the fandiscs? (Isn't Supplement an Extra fan disc?)  I thought the fandiscs had other stuff than what was listed in w3g's post.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: gabgrave on May 24, 2010, 11:16:20 pm
It is a compilation. But includes a new side story too. Hopefully longer then CD and RD though.

Which parts are included in this?  All of the fandiscs? (Isn't Supplement an Extra fan disc?)  I thought the fandiscs had other stuff than what was listed in w3g's post.

No, the fandisk are CD and RD listed in the post, namely from the C76 Providence and C77 Rebelion releases.  MLAF and AyuMayu Alternative fandisk are not part of it, being seperate items themselves.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: KoiNoDensetsu on May 26, 2010, 12:14:06 am
It is a compilation. But includes a new side story too. Hopefully longer then CD and RD though.

Which parts are included in this?  All of the fandiscs? (Isn't Supplement an Extra fan disc?)  I thought the fandiscs had other stuff than what was listed in w3g's post.

No, the fandisk are CD and RD listed in the post, namely from the C76 Providence and C77 Rebelion releases.  MLAF and AyuMayu Alternative fandisk are not part of it, being seperate items themselves.

Hm, I have never heard of these C76 and C77 releases, but still interesting...  I just wish age would create a new amazing series instead of re-releases.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: gabgrave on May 26, 2010, 12:40:35 am
Well, considering they are still coming out with new MLA side stories every month in the Hobby Japan magazine, and have been doing so for 2 years, I dont see them stopping with extras anytime soon. Anyway the MLA world is really quite rich, and it seems they co-opted some western writers to plot for them as well...
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: gabgrave on May 26, 2010, 12:43:31 am
Also to clarify, CXX are the Comiket events held every 6 months or year in Japan. They are for Jap doujin groups to display their works. Many Doujin (Fan) groups make their name in this event, and become big businesses.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Ixrec on May 26, 2010, 02:18:27 am
Well, considering they are still coming out with new MLA side stories every month in the Hobby Japan magazine, and have been doing so for 2 years, I dont see them stopping with extras anytime soon. Anyway the MLA world is really quite rich, and it seems they co-opted some western writers to plot for them as well...

I am now wondering if w3g has any interest in these things.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: gabgrave on May 26, 2010, 02:33:38 am
Well, considering they are still coming out with new MLA side stories every month in the Hobby Japan magazine, and have been doing so for 2 years, I dont see them stopping with extras anytime soon. Anyway the MLA world is really quite rich, and it seems they co-opted some western writers to plot for them as well...


I am now wondering if w3g has any interest in these things.


If any of you do, let me know, I have been collecting ALL the books, fanbooks, art books for MLA and ML. Can provide scans if needed, but would like not to have to destroy the book to do so...
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Ixrec on May 26, 2010, 04:13:18 am
Well, considering they are still coming out with new MLA side stories every month in the Hobby Japan magazine, and have been doing so for 2 years, I dont see them stopping with extras anytime soon. Anyway the MLA world is really quite rich, and it seems they co-opted some western writers to plot for them as well...


I am now wondering if w3g has any interest in these things.


If any of you do, let me know, I have been collecting ALL the books, fanbooks, art books for MLA and ML. Can provide scans if needed, but would like not to have to destroy the book to do so...

I have translated small volumes of bonus material in the past when I felt it was just as good as the original work, and/or made a huge contribution to the story. If you think I might feel the same way about any of the above then you can take the chance and send me something, but I guarantee nothing.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: w3g on May 26, 2010, 05:42:56 am
The fan books and art books are great to look at, but translating them is quite different from having the real thing in hand. I am not a collector type though, so I can be wrong on that.

For knowledge of MLA world, it will be much better to translate part of the Muv Luv wiki at http://www9.atwiki.jp/alternative/
I just might do that when the actual translation for Alternative is near completion, but that will require stealing lots of text and images from that site  ::)  The site owner will probably want to kill me.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: gabgrave on May 26, 2010, 05:51:25 am
OK, i'll post some scans of the mags that i found on the web for now. If you need higher quality let me know. This story should be related to the Chicken divers story, if not the same one.

http://img191.imageshack.us/img191/3228/hj0905141.jpg
http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/3706/hj0905142.jpg
http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/6587/hj0905143.jpg
http://img532.imageshack.us/img532/497/hj0905144.jpg
http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/7516/hj0905145.jpg

w3g: Ya, that wiki really covers alot. But I don't think it covers stuff from the mags, just the games and fandisks.

edit: removed thumbnails
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: gabgrave on May 31, 2010, 04:50:10 am
Another Fan disk with more side stories ^^ http://www.age-soft.co.jp/Product/harumani/index.html
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Kyon_Geass on May 31, 2010, 07:16:18 am
inb4 UNLIMITED FD WORKS
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: DxS on May 31, 2010, 05:00:20 pm
inb4 UNLIMITED FD WORKS

I think you're a bit too late for that =p

Still though i can't believe they've already released so much extra content i mean the VN has only been out for like 2-3 years.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Moogy on May 31, 2010, 05:25:45 pm
muvluv alternative is the FF7 of eroge
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: DxS on May 31, 2010, 05:35:36 pm
muvluv alternative is the FF7 of eroge

Oh, a muvluv Alt remake is being discussed and it will take 30 years of continuous work to complete?

Still though it seems to be getting even worse then FFVII, at least the FFVII spin-off took some time to appear.

But I guess they're more needed than Game spinoffs since VN's are a niche category.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Ixrec on May 31, 2010, 06:39:35 pm
inb4 UNLIMITED FD WORKS

I think you're a bit too late for that =p

Still though i can't believe they've already released so much extra content i mean the VN has only been out for like 2-3 years.

Gotta milk it while it's at the peak of popularity.

I'm wondering how many more sales it'll get after our tl. It'd be funny if that somehow prompted even more fandiscs.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: gabgrave on May 31, 2010, 06:45:39 pm

 
inb4 UNLIMITED FD WORKS

I think you're a bit too late for that =p

Still though i can't believe they've already released so much extra content i mean the VN has only been out for like 2-3 years.



Gotta milk it while it's at the peak of popularity.

I'm wondering how many more sales it'll get after our tl. It'd be funny if that somehow prompted even more fandiscs.

More like 6+ years dude... and the first 4 years was a desert of creativity... then it became a garden...


Not really peak, since there were still some controversy from players that it was too war like and realistic for the ero lovers. Then Age went straight military with the series for the FDs, and since then they have been coming out with 2 FD a year from 2 years ago. But it'll be interesting to see how an english translation affects the future products of ML. (PLEASE ANIME PLEASE!!!)
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: DxS on May 31, 2010, 08:06:34 pm

 
inb4 UNLIMITED FD WORKS

I think you're a bit too late for that =p

Still though i can't believe they've already released so much extra content i mean the VN has only been out for like 2-3 years.



Gotta milk it while it's at the peak of popularity.

I'm wondering how many more sales it'll get after our tl. It'd be funny if that somehow prompted even more fandiscs.

More like 6+ years dude... and the first 4 years was a desert of creativity... then it became a garden...


Not really peak, since there were still some controversy from players that it was too war like and realistic for the ero lovers. Then Age went straight military with the series for the FDs, and since then they have been coming out with 2 FD a year from 2 years ago. But it'll be interesting to see how an english translation affects the future products of ML. (PLEASE ANIME PLEASE!!!)

Well i meant for muv-luv alt specifically.
Though if they do make an anime I could see them making one of Extra but i'm not sure about Unlimited because it would be pretty depressing without Alt and Alt wouldn't really fit tv well.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: gabgrave on May 31, 2010, 09:10:36 pm
MLA was in 2006, the first FD (MLAF) was in late 2007. Just saying ;)

For the anime, hoping they will do it like they did Full Metal Panic: TSR. Hopefully they wll follow the pacing of the novel or manga, as those are way more coherent compared to the VN.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: gabgrave on June 07, 2010, 08:14:55 pm
Prof Yuko birthday art up at age homepage! Only for today!
http://www.age-soft.co.jp/images/20100608_yuko.jpg
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Sirf*palot on June 09, 2010, 08:23:53 am
Quick question (unless its too spoilerific for me), supposedly in the Unlimited universe Sumika doesn't exist? But she is back in MLA? (which resets time in the Unlimited universe). How is that supposed to work?

Anyways, if its a vital plot point, I'm better off not knowing until MLU/MLA is tled.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Ixrec on June 09, 2010, 10:03:25 am
Quick question (unless its too spoilerific for me), supposedly in the Unlimited universe Sumika doesn't exist? But she is back in MLA? (which resets time in the Unlimited universe). How is that supposed to work?

Anyways, if its a vital plot point, I'm better off not knowing until MLU/MLA is tled.

Uh...yeah, that's like *the* biggest spoiler in the first half of MLA.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Sirf*palot on June 09, 2010, 10:52:58 am
K then, nvm. I'll just wait the year it takes for the Muv Luv Trilogy to be tled. Good thing that the internet doesn't have too many spoilerific stuff for Muv Luv so I should be safe. lol
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Ixrec on June 09, 2010, 12:46:14 pm
K then, nvm. I'll just wait the year it takes for the Muv Luv Trilogy to be tled. Good thing that the internet doesn't have too many spoilerific stuff for Muv Luv so I should be safe. lol

You bet it does.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Ixrec on June 09, 2010, 04:21:56 pm
For no real reason, I ran through all of the ML cgs yet again and rounded up all 56 facial close-ups. I figure *someone* out there will want these.

http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?elnmmnm1qqm

Most of you can probably just screencap what you need, but feel free to ask for other cgs anyway. It only takes me a few minutes to run through it all and pick stuff out.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Sirf*palot on June 09, 2010, 06:25:55 pm
K then, nvm. I'll just wait the year it takes for the Muv Luv Trilogy to be tled. Good thing that the internet doesn't have too many spoilerific stuff for Muv Luv so I should be safe. lol

You bet it does.

Well, I didn't see any so, I'll just keep avoiding googling Sumika and MLA.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Ixrec on June 09, 2010, 06:36:35 pm
K then, nvm. I'll just wait the year it takes for the Muv Luv Trilogy to be tled. Good thing that the internet doesn't have too many spoilerific stuff for Muv Luv so I should be safe. lol

You bet it does.

Well, I didn't see any so, I'll just keep avoiding googling Sumika and MLA.

You are very, very lucky.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: JONJONAUG on June 09, 2010, 07:29:02 pm
For no real reason, I ran through all of the ML cgs yet again and rounded up all 56 facial close-ups. I figure *someone* out there will want these.

http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?elnmmnm1qqm

Most of you can probably just screencap what you need, but feel free to ask for other cgs anyway. It only takes me a few minutes to run through it all and pick stuff out.

Wouldn't it be easier just to post whatever tool you use to unpack the data file? I want character sprites.

Prof Yuko birthday art up at age homepage! Only for today!
http://www.age-soft.co.jp/images/20100608_yuko.jpg

Found it.

(http://img810.imageshack.us/img810/3712/1276014842275.jpg)
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Ixrec on June 09, 2010, 09:27:20 pm
For no real reason, I ran through all of the ML cgs yet again and rounded up all 56 facial close-ups. I figure *someone* out there will want these.

http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?elnmmnm1qqm

Most of you can probably just screencap what you need, but feel free to ask for other cgs anyway. It only takes me a few minutes to run through it all and pick stuff out.

Wouldn't it be easier just to post whatever tool you use to unpack the data file? I want character sprites.

Our tool doesn't do sprites, since it's a completely different image type.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: gabgrave on June 10, 2010, 08:07:11 am
Dude! take off the birthday pic! If there's one thing age is a*al about, its the birthday pics getting posted up...
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Sirf*palot on June 10, 2010, 01:45:40 pm
Just finished Sumika's route, does the patch lock up the "extras" section and prevent me from starting Unlimited prematurely (since it is not tled yet)?
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Spin569874123 on June 10, 2010, 02:33:21 pm
You need to finish two routes. I don't remember if it has to be Sumika and Meiya or if it's a combination of any two girls though.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Moogy on June 10, 2010, 04:36:36 pm
Any ideas how you guys are going to translate the Isumi Valkyries' slogan in Alternative? It's probably my biggest concern as far as translation goes.

...Well, I suppose I'm posing this question to just Ixrec, since I don't think anyone else has actually played Alternative except Makoto.

There's an official(?) English translation which you can see a little ways into this video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zv1MHL4HtCU&fmt=18), but I'm not sure if you'll want to use it.

Eh, maybe I'll consult with Makoto.

Here's one of the variations of it if you need to refresh your memory:
Quote
死力を尽くして任務にあたり
生ある限り最善を尽くし
決して犬死をしない。
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: gabgrave on June 10, 2010, 08:06:00 pm
Do your best to carry out your duty.  (Endeavour to accomplish your duty.)
Live to the fullest.         (Do not waste your life.)
Don’t waste your death!          (Never die in vain!)

Best i can translate to english on the left, my take on it on the right.

Brings a lump to my throat when I read this and remember what happen...
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Ixrec on June 10, 2010, 09:06:29 pm
I was aware of the official Engrish, but like most annoying adaptation stuff I'd prefer to just wait until I see it in context. There will probably be a lot of staff debating over it, and it's likely makoto will be involved. But I'm confident it'll turn out fine. My editors and I got Sakurai to sound decent in English. No part of MLA is a serious threat in comparison.

If you like, once I actually get that far into Alt I can post the proposed tls publicly (anyone else who cares and read MLA feel free to throw out your own version, I'm saving all the ones I've seen).
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Ixrec on June 10, 2010, 11:04:11 pm
For some reason I got the irresistible urge to go work it out, and have been babbling about it in the staff chan. Convo diverged after we got to:

Fulfill your duty with all your might.
Despair not until your final breath.
Never die in vain!
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Sirf*palot on June 11, 2010, 08:57:10 pm
K then, nvm. I'll just wait the year it takes for the Muv Luv Trilogy to be tled. Good thing that the internet doesn't have too many spoilerific stuff for Muv Luv so I should be safe. lol

You bet it does.

Well, I didn't see any so, I'll just keep avoiding googling Sumika and MLA.

You are very, very lucky.

Or just really stupid, the wiki article did have hints on how it may have happened and that sumika's a fucking brain in a tube in MLU/A. So thats what happens when I read it carefully to read what happens in Meiya's ending. Well.....fuck.

And now, reading hongfire.....WHYYYYY


My plan now is to repress these memories so that in the time that it takes for MLU and MLA to be tled, I'll forget.
 :o
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Ixrec on June 12, 2010, 02:27:26 pm
Just for lulz, this is me being lazy:
//<000018bc> 【Meiya】「眠そうだな。\n眠れなかったのか?」\e
<000018bc> 【Meiya】「You appear sleepy. Did you not sleep?」\e

The line was recently edited to:
<000018bc> 【Meiya】「Did you not sleep well last night?」\e
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: DxS on June 12, 2010, 10:43:28 pm
wow Sirf*palot thanks for that completely non see through spoiler there, because you definitely can't see what's written in that color on this forums background.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Ixrec on June 13, 2010, 01:23:29 am
wow Sirf*palot thanks for that completely non see through spoiler there, because you definitely can't see what's written in that color on this forums background.

It's the closest thing we have to a real spoiler tag here ;_;
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Nagato on June 13, 2010, 02:31:36 am
wow Sirf*palot thanks for that completely non see through spoiler there, because you definitely can't see what's written in that color on this forums background.

It's the closest thing we have to a real spoiler tag here ;_;
Sup completely hidden text.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Ixrec on June 13, 2010, 03:16:44 am
wow Sirf*palot thanks for that completely non see through spoiler there, because you definitely can't see what's written in that color on this forums background.

It's the closest thing we have to a real spoiler tag here ;_;
Sup completely hidden text.
Sup guy who memorized the hex value of the forum background color.

And notice it's not *quite* perfectly hidden in quotes.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Moogy on June 13, 2010, 03:53:52 am
I wrote a review of Alternative. (http://tsukuru.info/b/?p=696) ~2000 words, no spoilers.

The original Muvluv isn't worth reviewing, fuck that thing. Anyway, my review is targeted at people planning to play Alternative at some point in the future (most likely when Ammy finishes TLing it. If you're one of them, do check it out.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: DxS on June 13, 2010, 10:16:04 am
wow Sirf*palot thanks for that completely non see through spoiler there, because you definitely can't see what's written in that color on this forums background.

It's the closest thing we have to a real spoiler tag here ;_;
Sup completely hidden text.
Sup guy who memorized the hex value of the forum background color.

And notice it's not *quite* perfectly hidden in quotes.

Its not really that complicated, if you have good eyes you easily notice it like i did.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: DxS on June 13, 2010, 10:16:35 am
I wrote a review of Alternative. (http://tsukuru.info/b/?p=696) ~2000 words, no spoilers.

The original Muvluv isn't worth reviewing, fuck that thing. Anyway, my review is targeted at people planning to play Alternative at some point in the future (most likely when Ammy finishes TLing it. If you're one of them, do check it out.

Nice review i liked it, makes me even more excited for Alt. Thanks. :)
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: AQZT on June 13, 2010, 01:39:13 pm
I wrote a review of Alternative. (http://tsukuru.info/b/?p=696) ~2000 words, no spoilers.

The original Muvluv isn't worth reviewing, fuck that thing. Anyway, my review is targeted at people planning to play Alternative at some point in the future (most likely when Ammy finishes TLing it. If you're one of them, do check it out.
Damn awesome review Moogy. Now you've made my Alter craving even worse.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Nightdragon on June 15, 2010, 04:02:51 pm
Hi new here, first thing I wanna say is

Thank you thank you thank you =)

thank you for doing al this work of your "own free will" apparently someone is holding a whip....

so just want to thank everyone working on this, i will grant not the best stories in the world but, enough to be enternated by them.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: AcroRay on June 17, 2010, 01:43:05 pm
Anyone going to Anime Expo next month?   Apparently MANGAGAMER will have AGE as a special guest publisher at their booth, and they'll be selling MUV LUV stuff...

http://mangagamer.wordpress.com/2010/06/06/anime-expo-2010/
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: KoiNoDensetsu on June 17, 2010, 03:01:12 pm
Anyone going to Anime Expo next month?   Apparently MANGAGAMER will have AGE as a special guest publisher at their booth, and they'll be selling MUV LUV stuff...

http://mangagamer.wordpress.com/2010/06/06/anime-expo-2010/

This has been discussed in another thread.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Sheeta on June 17, 2010, 06:28:41 pm
Anyone going to Anime Expo next month?   Apparently MANGAGAMER will have AGE as a special guest publisher at their booth, and they'll be selling MUV LUV stuff...

http://mangagamer.wordpress.com/2010/06/06/anime-expo-2010/

This has been discussed in another thread.
He can discuss it here if he wants to. The other thread had more of a 'omg what if they license XY!!' theme to it.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: gabgrave on June 23, 2010, 03:30:44 am
Anyone knows if this is a new figure coming out?
http://superrobotwar.files.wordpress.com/2010/06/srwhotnews_hj8_a31.jpg
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: treb on June 23, 2010, 04:09:57 am
Are the mechas in Unlimited/Alternative transformable? Were some of the designs  based on fighter planes?
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Spin569874123 on June 23, 2010, 09:24:39 am
Are the mechas in Unlimited/Alternative transformable? Were some of the designs  based on fighter planes?
They combine to form an even bigger mech!
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: gabgrave on June 23, 2010, 09:31:49 am
Are the mechas in Unlimited/Alternative transformable? Were some of the designs  based on fighter planes?
They combine to form an even bigger mech!

At which point it runs out of power and gets bombed by its own forces.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: AcroRay on June 24, 2010, 03:13:02 pm
Anyone knows if this is a new figure coming out?
http://superrobotwar.files.wordpress.com/2010/06/srwhotnews_hj8_a31.jpg

The source blog says "New plastic kit from Kotobukiya" as a caption to the photo, which will likely make me do the happy dance when more information is released! 

Last photo entry:

http://superrobotwar.wordpress.com/2010/06/23/this-month%E2%80%99s-hobby-japan-magazine/#more-13231

Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: AQZT on June 24, 2010, 03:21:28 pm
Are the mechas in Unlimited/Alternative transformable? Were some of the designs  based on fighter planes?
No, and none of them have flight capabilities either (At least that's what I gather from Yuuko's descriptions of what happened near the beginning of the BETA war)
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Ixrec on June 24, 2010, 04:41:57 pm
Are the mechas in Unlimited/Alternative transformable? Were some of the designs  based on fighter planes?
No, and none of them have flight capabilities either (At least that's what I gather from Yuuko's descriptions of what happened near the beginning of the BETA war)

Since it's been asked even within the staff, yes they can boost jump, but that isn't flight.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: treb on June 24, 2010, 06:25:06 pm
Are the mechas in Unlimited/Alternative transformable? Were some of the designs  based on fighter planes?
No, and none of them have flight capabilities either (At least that's what I gather from Yuuko's descriptions of what happened near the beginning of the BETA war)

Since it's been asked even within the staff, yes they can boost jump, but that isn't flight.

Ok thanks, also to Spin & Gab.  Just finished the Unlimited (evaluation).  There's  somewhere in the beginning where Takeru was also wondering if they do that, and was answered no.  I take some are capable of hovering, I've seen Alternative videos long ago, the biggest mecha I think inside some hive, firing missiles.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: AcroRay on June 24, 2010, 06:32:14 pm
There do seem to be some with limited flight capability introduced in TOTAL ECLIPSE and the Chronicles entries.  But it seems to me they either avoid flight in most situations, or only take advantage of the capability when the BETAs' Lux units have been destroyed.

(There's probably some discussion about it in my copies of INTEGRAL WORKS and TSFIA Vol 1, but since I can't read Japanese, the info is not available to me.)
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: gabgrave on June 24, 2010, 08:14:16 pm
There do seem to be some with limited flight capability introduced in TOTAL ECLIPSE and the Chronicles entries.  But it seems to me they either avoid flight in most situations, or only take advantage of the capability when the BETAs' Lux units have been destroyed.

(There's probably some discussion about it in my copies of INTEGRAL WORKS and TSFIA Vol 1, but since I can't read Japanese, the info is not available to me.)

Thats right, most units are only capable of limited hover/dash, like in the armored core series. Others that have limited flight (there are none that can fly like fighter jets or gundams as yet) are limited in their flight range by anti-air cover of the BETA. Otherwise the only 2 mecha avaliable currently with full flight are the Susanoo class mobile fortress and the combiner super robot analog from AyuMayu alternative...
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: AcroRay on June 24, 2010, 09:21:47 pm
Otherwise the only 2 mecha avaliable currently with full flight are the Susanoo class mobile fortress and the combiner super robot analog from AyuMayu alternative...

And Susanoo has energy shields, of course...   ;D
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: AcroRay on June 24, 2010, 09:38:59 pm
Did I miss this?!?  CHRONICLES has been moved to "product" status?   :D :D :D

http://www.age-soft.co.jp/Product/chronicles01/index.html
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: gabgrave on June 24, 2010, 09:54:32 pm
Did I miss this?!?  CHRONICLES has been moved to "product" status?   :D :D :D

http://www.age-soft.co.jp/Product/chronicles01/index.html

Yes, but only for FC members. Others have to wait for event before can purchase i think.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Ixrec on June 24, 2010, 10:00:11 pm
Did I miss this?!?  CHRONICLES has been moved to "product" status?   :D :D :D

http://www.age-soft.co.jp/Product/chronicles01/index.html

I might actually be interested in Chronicles. Hmm...
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: AcroRay on June 24, 2010, 10:23:30 pm
In keeping with my suspicion that AGE has huge plans for ML: I'm inclined to believe that Chronicles is the 'vehicle' AGE is hoping will move the MLA property into the mainstream.  This is what, I think, will appeal to potential partners interested in developing a TV or OAV series, or MLA game products for console gamers.

It's got it all - stand-alone adventure stories, existing proven and ongoing toy/hobby products, mainstream release manga and art books, and an existing dedicated fan base who have proven that it doesn't have to be an eroge to have appeal.  Win-win.  Even more than Fate/stay night.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Moogy on June 25, 2010, 12:16:52 am
Muvluv anime with Yoshinari on staff... if only dreams came true.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: KoiNoDensetsu on June 25, 2010, 03:17:06 pm
Did I miss this?!?  CHRONICLES has been moved to "product" status?   :D :D :D

http://www.age-soft.co.jp/Product/chronicles01/index.html

I might actually be interested in Chronicles. Hmm...

I am interested in Chronicles now, but for completely different reasons...

http://www.age-soft.co.jp/Product/chronicles01/spec.html

drool
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: AcroRay on June 25, 2010, 06:48:47 pm
I am interested in Chronicles now, but for completely different reasons...

Bah!  :P  I'd rather they toss in a little PVC TSF  - or maybe a unit patch!  Yeah!  ;D  (I'd love a patch for the test unit group from Total Eclipse.)
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Ixrec on July 06, 2010, 04:49:27 pm
Did some math, and the MLU translation should be finished on the 23rd. As usual no way to know when the patch comes out, but hopefully that's long enough for everyone to catch up and it won't take too long.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: DxS on July 06, 2010, 05:37:29 pm
Did some math, and the MLU translation should be finished on the 23rd. As usual no way to know when the patch comes out, but hopefully that's long enough for everyone to catch up and it won't take too long.

That's great, was gonna try the trial but i guess if its only a month or so wait, i don't mid waiting for the finished product. Good luck.

Anyone care to explain what Chronicles is? is it jsut another ALT fandisk?
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: gabgrave on July 06, 2010, 06:22:28 pm
Happy Birthday Sumika!
http://www.age-soft.co.jp/images/20100707_sumika.jpg
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: AcroRay on July 06, 2010, 07:39:22 pm
Anyone care to explain what Chronicles is? is it jsut another ALT fandisk?

As I understand it, Chronicles are a series of stories in other parts of the Alternative world - much like Total Eclipse - primarily set after  the destruction of the "Original Hive" (at the conclusion of Alternative).  Earth is still infested with BETAs, continuing to consume everything and everyone in their paths. Chronicles follows the stories of combat units in Europe and other locations.

Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: KoiNoDensetsu on July 07, 2010, 12:15:22 pm
Did some math, and the MLU translation should be finished on the 23rd. As usual no way to know when the patch comes out, but hopefully that's long enough for everyone to catch up and it won't take too long.

That's great, was gonna try the trial but i guess if its only a month or so wait, i don't mid waiting for the finished product. Good luck.

Anyone care to explain what Chronicles is? is it jsut another ALT fandisk?

It's an afterstory for the MLA ending, along with "director cut" versions of two other previously released mini-stories.  Oh, and free oppai mouse pad~
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Moogy on July 07, 2010, 01:59:09 pm
It's an afterstory for the MLA ending, along with "director cut" versions of two other previously released mini-stories.  Oh, and free oppai mouse pad~
No. First off, you've confused volume 1 of Chronicles for the entire series. Also, The Day After takes place after the ending of Unlimited, not Alternative.

Most of the rest of the stories should take place after Alternative, though, yes, with the exception of the Alternative prequel focusing on the Kiminozo characters (which will probably be in volume 2).
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: KoiNoDensetsu on July 08, 2010, 01:16:56 pm
My bad.  I meant MLU.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: DxS on July 08, 2010, 03:05:31 pm
My bad.  I meant MLU.

suuuuuuuure you did <_____<

Anyways thanks for the description guys, it actually sounds rather interesting.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Gore on July 09, 2010, 12:58:48 am
Finished Extra and almost done with MLU? Damn you got pretty far, nicely done.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Ixrec on July 09, 2010, 01:01:15 am
Finished Extra and almost done with MLU? Damn you got pretty far, nicely done.

Almost if you ignore hscenes. I've got a whole week of those to do, then a week of actual endgame plot (which hopefully has lots of copypasta between heroines).
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: DxS on July 09, 2010, 09:55:17 am
Finished Extra and almost done with MLU? Damn you got pretty far, nicely done.

Almost if you ignore hscenes. I've got a whole week of those to do, then a week of actual endgame plot (which hopefully has lots of copypasta between heroines).

A week of H-Scenes? how many H-Scenes are in the game and is translating them really that hard?
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Ixrec on July 09, 2010, 09:59:09 am
Finished Extra and almost done with MLU? Damn you got pretty far, nicely done.

Almost if you ignore hscenes. I've got a whole week of those to do, then a week of actual endgame plot (which hopefully has lots of copypasta between heroines).

A week of H-Scenes? how many H-Scenes are in the game and is translating them really that hard?

There are six total, one for each heroine and one for Yuuko. These actually only make up about half of the aforementioned week because there are long mediocre romantic scenes leading up to each one.

They aren't inherently hard, it's just I can't bring myself to give enough of a shit about them to do them super fast. So far I've managed 20kb though.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: DxS on July 09, 2010, 10:03:41 am
Finished Extra and almost done with MLU? Damn you got pretty far, nicely done.

Almost if you ignore hscenes. I've got a whole week of those to do, then a week of actual endgame plot (which hopefully has lots of copypasta between heroines).

A week of H-Scenes? how many H-Scenes are in the game and is translating them really that hard?

There are six total, one for each heroine and one for Yuuko. These actually only make up about half of the aforementioned week because there are long mediocre romantic scenes leading up to each one.

They aren't inherently hard, it's just I can't bring myself to give enough of a shit about them to do them super fast. So far I've managed 20kb though.

I guess that makes sense then.

I was just wondering because i remember TakaJun saying one time that H-Scene were the hardest part of a game to translate, which always seemed weird to me.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: KoiNoDensetsu on July 09, 2010, 11:08:20 am
Finished Extra and almost done with MLU? Damn you got pretty far, nicely done.

Almost if you ignore hscenes. I've got a whole week of those to do, then a week of actual endgame plot (which hopefully has lots of copypasta between heroines).

A week of H-Scenes? how many H-Scenes are in the game and is translating them really that hard?

There are six total, one for each heroine and one for Yuuko. These actually only make up about half of the aforementioned week because there are long mediocre romantic scenes leading up to each one.

They aren't inherently hard, it's just I can't bring myself to give enough of a shit about them to do them super fast. So far I've managed 20kb though.

Not sure if this has been answered anywhere, but what made you decide to TL the 18+ version?  I like H-scenes and all that, but the better system and extras seem to outweigh the 18+ version's "pros".  I just find it surprising since you don't seem to like H-scenes very much.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Ixrec on July 09, 2010, 11:33:00 am
Finished Extra and almost done with MLU? Damn you got pretty far, nicely done.

Almost if you ignore hscenes. I've got a whole week of those to do, then a week of actual endgame plot (which hopefully has lots of copypasta between heroines).

A week of H-Scenes? how many H-Scenes are in the game and is translating them really that hard?

There are six total, one for each heroine and one for Yuuko. These actually only make up about half of the aforementioned week because there are long mediocre romantic scenes leading up to each one.

They aren't inherently hard, it's just I can't bring myself to give enough of a shit about them to do them super fast. So far I've managed 20kb though.

Not sure if this has been answered anywhere, but what made you decide to TL the 18+ version?  I like H-scenes and all that, but the better system and extras seem to outweigh the 18+ version's "pros".  I just find it surprising since you don't seem to like H-scenes very much.

This has been discussed ad nauseum. Without going over the entire list again (everyone has a different list anyway due to endless misinformation) there are basically no meaningful pros whatsoever for the all ages version of either game, with the sole exception of chapter selection in MLA. The pros of keeping the adult content in MLA (and avoiding certain cons of the all ages) vastly outweigh this.

Admittedly, when this decision was made I completely forgot to take into account the fact that I'd have to tl boring ero scenes in MuvLuv, despite being willing and eager to translate the minimal yet plot-critical adult content in MuvLuv Alternative. Of course, given how bored I am of MuvLuv itself, this isn't really a huge drop in quality or enthusiasm.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: KoiNoDensetsu on July 09, 2010, 11:43:20 am
Finished Extra and almost done with MLU? Damn you got pretty far, nicely done.

Almost if you ignore hscenes. I've got a whole week of those to do, then a week of actual endgame plot (which hopefully has lots of copypasta between heroines).

A week of H-Scenes? how many H-Scenes are in the game and is translating them really that hard?

There are six total, one for each heroine and one for Yuuko. These actually only make up about half of the aforementioned week because there are long mediocre romantic scenes leading up to each one.

They aren't inherently hard, it's just I can't bring myself to give enough of a shit about them to do them super fast. So far I've managed 20kb though.

Not sure if this has been answered anywhere, but what made you decide to TL the 18+ version?  I like H-scenes and all that, but the better system and extras seem to outweigh the 18+ version's "pros".  I just find it surprising since you don't seem to like H-scenes very much.

This has been discussed ad nauseum. Without going over the entire list again (everyone has a different list anyway due to endless misinformation) there are basically no meaningful pros whatsoever for the all ages version of either game, with the sole exception of chapter selection in MLA. The pros of keeping the adult content in MLA (and avoiding certain cons of the all ages) vastly outweigh this.

Admittedly, when this decision was made I completely forgot to take into account the fact that I'd have to tl boring ero scenes in MuvLuv, despite being willing and eager to translate the minimal yet plot-critical adult content in MuvLuv Alternative. Of course, given how bored I am of MuvLuv itself, this isn't really a huge drop in quality or enthusiasm.

No pros?  According to VNDB:

Quote
Features an additional Aban movie, a modified Unlimited movie, 1024x600 resolution and 5.1 sound output.
Scenes with explicit content were rewritten their CG's replaced.
Additional endings for Extra, additional event CGs, facial animations added.

Bleh, I just wish there could have somehow been a patch for both versions so that people that don't like H (or want the extras) could play ML.  Or at least a "special combined patch". (but I assume that would be really hard since the AGES system is so complex)

As for the MLA scene, I am really curious about that.  Fans seem to have outraged over that just like the original KGNE Manami ending, so it must be a great scene. ;D
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Ixrec on July 09, 2010, 11:51:03 am
Yes, it is a great scene.

As for the all ages details, some of those I've never heard of before so I'm just going to not buy it because there's been far too much misinformation about the features as it is.

What I know is true is:
Higher resolution: complete rip-off since they get the widescreen by simply zooming into the fullscreen cgs, you're actually getting *less* art now, so this is a con
5.1 Sound: seriously, who cares? You already have useless gimmicks like 3D sound in the 18+.
Explicit Content Rewritten: well duh it's all ages, how this is a plus I can't really imagine unless you mean simply getting rid of the h is inherently good
Facial Animations: dunno about this, but even if it is true, who cares? Alternative 18+ has them already.
Additional CGs: I've yet to hear of a new one that was significant enough to justify anything. If there's a game that doesn't benefit from more CGs, it's MuvLuv Alternative.

Since this has been discussed ad nauseum in the past, do not even try to continue the subject. I will simply ignore further posts on it.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: KoiNoDensetsu on July 09, 2010, 12:02:56 pm
You forgot that the Marimo ending most-definitely has a new ending. =P

(runs away from topic)
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: gabgrave on July 09, 2010, 12:39:47 pm


As for the MLA scene, I am really curious about that.  Fans seem to have outraged over that just like the original KGNE Manami ending, so it must be a great scene. ;D
[/quote]

The initial censor for the game was only going to be for a certain gore scene, due to loud and violent feedback from ero gamers in 2-chan. Then age decided a patch just for that wasn't enough, and came up with the all age ver of MLA with the all age ML too. Other then MLFA, all the other fandisk does not have any HCG to date.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: AcroRay on July 09, 2010, 02:00:25 pm
At risk of beating a dead horse a bit more, the recent Muv Luv Memorial art book has what I believe (having the book, but not having played the games yet) fairly complete looking coverage of the character and HCG art of Extra and Unlimited.  I'd suggest picking it up if you in need of a complete picture of the game's alternate 18+/all-age versions in that regard. 

[Edited because I was confused....]
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: gabgrave on July 09, 2010, 02:07:02 pm
At risk of beating a dead horse a bit more, the recent Muv Luv Memorial art book has what I believe (having the book, but not having played the games yet) fairly complete looking coverage of the character and HCG art from both versions of the game.  I'd suggest picking it up if you in need of a complete picture of the game's alternate 18+/all-age versions in that regard.  It doesn't cover the extremely gory scenes, but coverage of those elements can be found various places around the net, if needed.  The same with alternate op & ed elements, animations and other content which can be found on-line for out-of-game screening as well.

I'd suggest that content-wise the all-ages version might be more appealing to individuals who might be interested in the story by have a distaste for - or other household-oriented limitations against - the H or guro content of the 18+ version.  That would increase the accessibility of the work for some.  But, much like the alternate material and so-called extra features of the all-ages version vs the 18+ version, you mileage on that value might vary.   Assuming you're an open-minded, legal adult playing the game, it doesn't seem like the lack of a patch for the all-ages version of the games would be that much of an issue.

Err, Memorial only covers ML, not MLA. ML:UL is completely ero friendly, no gore. MLA on the other hand...
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: AcroRay on July 09, 2010, 03:05:41 pm
Ah, very true.  Thanks for the correction.    :-\
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Moogy on July 09, 2010, 06:23:28 pm
Alternative must have the lowest length:ero ratio of any eroge. If you don't count that scene, there's only one short one out of the entire 50+ hours.

Also, yes, the 18+ version of Alternative is a must. The all-ages version censors the om nom nom scene and I can't imagine how much that would detract from the impact of everything related to it. They didn't even remove that scene (just zoomed/panned around), so it's not even really "all-ages." All you're getting is nasty censorship, in other words.

That said, the all-ages version is kinda worth it if you've already played the game. They added a bit more voicing for Shirogane here and there (most notably during the scene where Tsubasa plays at the end of chapter 7) and it lets you jump anywhere in the game at once - a fantastic feature for a game as jam-packed with awesome scenes as Alternative.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Ixrec on July 09, 2010, 07:45:41 pm
I consider the Shirogane voices a con (lol), especially since from what I could gather it's not full voicing even in all ages.

So yeah, as I said earlier, the chapter selection is like the only significant pro all ages has.

Quote
That said, the all-ages version is kinda worth it if you've already played the game.

I would therefore agree with this statement.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: gabgrave on July 09, 2010, 08:28:13 pm
In terms of chapter selection,  use of the 1000 save slots makes your life easier.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Ixrec on July 09, 2010, 09:47:45 pm
In terms of chapter selection,  use of the 1000 save slots makes your life easier.

I am currently at 73 MLU saves, so I'll probably use somewhere around 200 saves for Alternative.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: gabgrave on July 09, 2010, 10:17:40 pm
200... I save too much then. I got 120 for ML UL and EX, and 730 for MLA...  :)
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Shikiller on July 10, 2010, 01:33:49 am
I have a save state at the start of every script for Extra, at the choices and when the routes branch.
Same for Unlimited, so I have a shit load of saves.
It's a shame that the save/load function in ML and MLA sucks so much ass, but at least you can have like 1000 save states.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: AQZT on July 10, 2010, 01:38:51 am
I have... no saves in Extra. Deleted all of them, though I remember having, like 30 when I played through it originally.
I have two saves in UL.
Wow. That seems kind of meager now that I look at it...
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: DxS on July 10, 2010, 01:40:03 pm
I have... no saves in Extra. Deleted all of them, though I remember having, like 30 when I played through it originally.
I have two saves in UL.
Wow. That seems kind of meager now that I look at it...

I think i have like 6 saves one fore each route including the bad ending in EX. So my number is pretty small too
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: KoiNoDensetsu on July 10, 2010, 02:51:09 pm
I only have twelve saves with MLE and U combined.  But my save system only shows twenty slots... O_O
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: gabgrave on July 10, 2010, 06:47:18 pm
I only have twelve saves with MLE and U combined.  But my save system only shows twenty slots... O_O

The system automatically adds slots as you near the end of your save slots.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: KoiNoDensetsu on July 11, 2010, 12:30:44 am
I only have twelve saves with MLE and U combined.  But my save system only shows twenty slots... O_O

The system automatically adds slots as you near the end of your save slots.

Ah, that explains it.  Thanks.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Ixrec on July 11, 2010, 12:43:36 am
I only have twelve saves with MLE and U combined.  But my save system only shows twenty slots... O_O

The system automatically adds slots as you near the end of your save slots.

Ah, that explains it.  Thanks.

I love how everyone is baffled by this advanced technology.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: KoiNoDensetsu on July 11, 2010, 01:05:59 am
I only have twelve saves with MLE and U combined.  But my save system only shows twenty slots... O_O

The system automatically adds slots as you near the end of your save slots.

Ah, that explains it.  Thanks.

I love how everyone is baffled by this advanced technology.

Yes, it's taken straight from MLA. 
Processing power: 129308129389437453897asdadsadasd. 
Code name: AGES.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Nagato on July 11, 2010, 02:57:58 am
I only have twelve saves with MLE and U combined.  But my save system only shows twenty slots... O_O

The system automatically adds slots as you near the end of your save slots.

Ah, that explains it.  Thanks.

I love how everyone is baffled by this advanced technology.
I find it kinda hilarious how many people don't seem to find it out on their own. Do people really avoid the last save slot that much?
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Nightdragon on July 11, 2010, 04:18:30 am
yep, i found out by accident cause I normally put the first choice in the last slot...
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Ixrec on July 11, 2010, 09:08:54 am
I only have twelve saves with MLE and U combined.  But my save system only shows twenty slots... O_O

The system automatically adds slots as you near the end of your save slots.

Ah, that explains it.  Thanks.

I love how everyone is baffled by this advanced technology.
I find it kinda hilarious how many people don't seem to find it out on their own. Do people really avoid the last save slot that much?

If they thought that was it they might try to save less often. What I usually do is save whenever the hell I want and just go back to slot one if I run out (it's so rare for me to actually use saves that far back I don't mind overwriting them at all), so I found it right away.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: DxS on July 11, 2010, 01:43:19 pm
I only have twelve saves with MLE and U combined.  But my save system only shows twenty slots... O_O

The system automatically adds slots as you near the end of your save slots.

Ah, that explains it.  Thanks.

I love how everyone is baffled by this advanced technology.
I find it kinda hilarious how many people don't seem to find it out on their own. Do people really avoid the last save slot that much?

If they thought that was it they might try to save less often. What I usually do is save whenever the hell I want and just go back to slot one if I run out (it's so rare for me to actually use saves that far back I don't mind overwriting them at all), so I found it right away.

For me it was because i generally only have one save per route, unless there's an scene which i find interesting that i may want to revisit.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Nightdragon on July 14, 2010, 01:40:56 am
you know it doesn't seem to matter what it is wither its a game or manga series or even installing stuff... when I see 80% or higher i always start to get impatient.  :P
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Ixrec on July 16, 2010, 10:19:05 am
We apologize for the sudden eradication of off-topic posts.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: DxS on July 16, 2010, 10:35:04 am
We apologize for the sudden eradication of off-topic posts.

But it was a public servie announcement you can't do that its illegal  >:(
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: AcroRay on July 16, 2010, 11:06:45 am
We apologize for the sudden eradication of off-topic posts.

Oh, no apologies needed...   :P
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Ixrec on July 16, 2010, 11:33:32 am
We apologize for the sudden eradication of off-topic posts.

Oh, no apologies needed...   :P

Hence sarcasm.

On topic, the predicted end date of the 23rd still stands since I've managed 20kb every day since then, and I've passed most of the porn (read: stuff I am incapable of giving a shit about) so it's unlikely to fall now.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Nightdragon on July 17, 2010, 03:01:37 am
sarcasm rarely goes over well over the internet
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Catastrophe on July 17, 2010, 01:04:50 pm
We apologize for the sudden eradication of off-topic posts.

Oh, no apologies needed...   :P

Hence sarcasm.

On topic, the predicted end date of the 23rd still stands since I've managed 20kb every day since then, and I've passed most of the porn (read: stuff I am incapable of giving a shit about) so it's unlikely to fall now.
but teh pr0nz iz goods!!

...


*marks the 23rd on a calendar*
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: DxS on July 17, 2010, 03:54:18 pm
We apologize for the sudden eradication of off-topic posts.

Oh, no apologies needed...   :P

Hence sarcasm.

On topic, the predicted end date of the 23rd still stands since I've managed 20kb every day since then, and I've passed most of the porn (read: stuff I am incapable of giving a shit about) so it's unlikely to fall now.
but teh pr0nz iz goods!!

...


*marks the 23rd on a calendar*

There's still editing and betatesting after that so it probably won't be out on that day he'd jsut b done translating by then.

Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Catastrophe on July 17, 2010, 06:21:17 pm
We apologize for the sudden eradication of off-topic posts.

Oh, no apologies needed...   :P

Hence sarcasm.

On topic, the predicted end date of the 23rd still stands since I've managed 20kb every day since then, and I've passed most of the porn (read: stuff I am incapable of giving a shit about) so it's unlikely to fall now.
but teh pr0nz iz goods!!

...


*marks the 23rd on a calendar*
There's still editing and betatesting after that so it probably won't be out on that day he'd jsut b done translating by then.
thats the day i'll be pressing/trolling/annoying the betatesters/editors/qcers/etc so they get it done asap
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Sheeta on July 17, 2010, 08:58:08 pm
Quote
thats the day i'll be pressing/trolling/annoying the betatesters/editors/qcers/etc so they get it done asap
If you rush us, we'll just go slower :P
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Catastrophe on July 17, 2010, 09:27:20 pm
Quote
thats the day i'll be pressing/trolling/annoying the betatesters/editors/qcers/etc so they get it done asap
If you rush us, we'll just go slower :P
heh, you dont know how I do this stuff...

...but you're lucky, seems ill  be getting some important stuff to do from the 20th onwards..... free time will plunge D:
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: kidlat020 on July 18, 2010, 09:38:38 am
*was seriously bored and decided to go to the manga instead*.

But, yeah. As I expected, VNs are much better than manga. for example, the rope and rifle argument on MLA didn't exist in the manga.

MUCH. LESS. ABOUT. THE. SPOILERS. IXREC. MENTIONED.

and what's worse, I already ran out of VNs to play.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Catastrophe on July 18, 2010, 08:24:09 pm
whats this "chronicles" stuff getting a release in 2 weeks?
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: DxS on July 18, 2010, 09:34:06 pm
whats this "chronicles" stuff getting a release in 2 weeks?

Check last few post of page 21 and first few posts of page 22 in this thread.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Ixrec on July 19, 2010, 02:40:53 am
For those of you counting down to completion of MLU, you should know that file 0036 contains an entire week's worth of work and our statistics do not do partial scripts, so it may look like I'm stuck at 91%. It'll almost certainly be done by the 24th no matter what happens now. As for the actual patch, who knows.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Nightdragon on July 19, 2010, 03:02:14 am
For those of you counting down to completion of MLU, you should know that file 0036 contains an entire week's worth of work and our statistics do not do partial scripts, so it may look like I'm stuck at 91%. It'll almost certainly be done by the 24th no matter what happens now. As for the actual patch, who knows.

we understand Ixrec there for awhile it was stuck at 50% after the partial patch then and at least i was that maybe you got fed up with it for awhile and took a long break then suddenly it when to like 70%,

I think I can speak for at least most of us here that we very much appreciate the work you are dong, as for what everyone is wanting to say and is drooling yes we all really want it to be all done yesterday but us leechers don't want to voice our frustration of the fact that it isn't done yet... I think its just when things get down to the last few days everyone gets on edge, its the same with Starcraft 2 everyone wants it this week but we have to wait for it next week. We all know its done but we just can't wait for it.

So IMO feel free to just outright delete peoples posts whining about it... or just add in silly edits like for example " Why isn't it done yet?" change it to "Why isn't my egg done yet?"

so *thumbs up* and thanks again for your work...
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: JONJONAUG on July 19, 2010, 03:08:08 am
For those of you counting down to completion of MLU, you should know that file 0036 contains an entire week's worth of work and our statistics do not do partial scripts, so it may look like I'm stuck at 91%. It'll almost certainly be done by the 24th no matter what happens now. As for the actual patch, who knows.

At least you're done with all that porn.

But considering that all the previous patches were done within an extremely short amount of time after the translations were done, is there any reason that this should take any longer? The only thing I can think of is that you might have trouble finding a way to get the game to subtitle the voice-only part at the end.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Ixrec on July 19, 2010, 03:14:05 am
we understand Ixrec there for awhile it was stuck at 50% after the partial patch then and at least i was that maybe you got fed up with it for awhile and took a long break then suddenly it when to like 70%,

That was Nagato not updating the stats for a while. No one does 20% of a VN overnight.

Quote
But considering that all the previous patches were done within an extremely short amount of time after the translations were done, is there any reason that this should take any longer? The only thing I can think of is that you might have trouble finding a way to get the game to subtitle the voice-only part at the end.

There isn't. But we still can't guarantee anything. It's one of those legal things. If I promised it'd be done in a week, then we'd be completely fucked if one guy fell behind somehow or some technical error came up at the last minute (not actually true but I think in lawyer mode when addressing the public for some reason).

Quote
At least you're done with all that porn.

Yes, thank god.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: kidlat020 on July 19, 2010, 09:34:46 am
For those of you counting down to completion of MLU, you should know that file 0036 contains an entire week's worth of work and our statistics do not do partial scripts, so it may look like I'm stuck at 91%. It'll almost certainly be done by the 24th no matter what happens now. As for the actual patch, who knows.

we understand Ixrec there for awhile it was stuck at 50% after the partial patch then and at least i was that maybe you got fed up with it for awhile and took a long break then suddenly it when to like 70%,

I think I can speak for at least most of us here that we very much appreciate the work you are dong, as for what everyone is wanting to say and is drooling yes we all really want it to be all done yesterday but us leechers don't want to voice our frustration of the fact that it isn't done yet... I think its just when things get down to the last few days everyone gets on edge, its the same with Starcraft 2 everyone wants it this week but we have to wait for it next week. We all know its done but we just can't wait for it.

So IMO feel free to just outright delete peoples posts whining about it... or just add in silly edits like for example " Why isn't it done yet?" change it to "Why isn't my egg done yet?"

so *thumbs up* and thanks again for your work...
Did I actually sounded like I was whining? if yes, then let me say 2 things:

1. I never intended that.
2. I'm sorry if it really looked as if I was whining or whatever.

But, yeah. The sooner that the time is coming near (the full patch), the more frustrated the fans become.
When the patch become released, all the people are like "YEAH!! FINALLY!!! ITS FINISHED!!!!1" <-- applies to both developers and fans. ^_^
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Mirrored on July 20, 2010, 12:46:34 am
Just started MuvLuv extra.

It's pretty entertaining, however, it really is something carried by absurdity and I really doubt that there is going to be anything particularly meaningful or deep in it.

Sumika is easily the most defined character in the early game.
Miki seems like a throwaway, "I'm cute, NYAAAA" character.
Meiya Deus Ex Machina. Her implausibility and general conformity to archetype weaken the story a bit. However, the whole over the top humor is decent.

I like it more than I expected. Can't wait to continue into ML:U and ML:A
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Moogy on July 20, 2010, 01:16:04 pm
Protip: Meiya, Sumika, Yuuko, and possibly Marimo are the only important characters from Extra other than Takeru himself. (Tsukuyomi doesn't count since she's basically an entirely different character in Unlimited/Alternative. And Akane is basically just a cameo in Extra.) You're stuck with Ayamine/Mikoto/Tama/Chizuru for a while but they're not important so don't worry about them.

Also I hope you like food. Lots and lots of food.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Mirrored on July 20, 2010, 01:48:41 pm
Some of the food scenes were a bit much.

It's like. Bro, this chick here, she's volunteering to go over to your house for a night and your parents are not home. Can you let the differences between mushrooms go and try to clue in on this.

However, I see where this Mech game can tie in later. I also, in the tiny amount of time I played, can see where some of the Parallel world stuff is coming into play.

I also really liked the introduction and the sketch style. It had a lot of character. As soon as I get out of this office it is going to be straight up MuvLuv until 12.

I haven't actually gotten to any choices yet.

Edit: ... I see what you mean. Every choice I have made has been a choice between food or cleaning. Jesus.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: DxS on July 22, 2010, 08:02:32 pm
Some of the food scenes were a bit much.

It's like. Bro, this chick here, she's volunteering to go over to your house for a night and your parents are not home. Can you let the differences between mushrooms go and try to clue in on this.

However, I see where this Mech game can tie in later. I also, in the tiny amount of time I played, can see where some of the Parallel world stuff is coming into play.

I also really liked the introduction and the sketch style. It had a lot of character. As soon as I get out of this office it is going to be straight up MuvLuv until 12.

I haven't actually gotten to any choices yet.

Edit: ... I see what you mean. Every choice I have made has been a choice between food or cleaning. Jesus.

I know it was kind of surprising that food was the main deciding factor of which route you get, make me wonder if the author had some kind of food fetish and, why they didn't put any food related H-Scene in there =p
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: serrisflame on July 22, 2010, 09:14:56 pm
Hurray! Cheers to finishing Unlimited Tl! Next stop- Alternative!

Also, is the project for Shirotsume Souwa going to be hosted here?
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Ixrec on July 22, 2010, 10:05:00 pm
What do you mean by "hosted"?

And now the need-to-know about MLA:

Alternative will start after I'm settled into my apartment for sophomore year of college. This most likely means mid-September. The fixed quota will fall to 15kb/day since I expect college to get harder and Alternative has various difficulties which justify taking it a bit slower. I will still aim for 20 kb on any day when it is convenient, we'll just have to see how often that is.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Nightdragon on July 22, 2010, 10:38:25 pm
even tho I dont wanna say it, real life more important.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: kidlat020 on July 23, 2010, 02:23:15 am
even tho I dont wanna say it, real life more important.

I just though of a weird synopsis.

Two years ago, our protagonist Ixrec Rexci suffered a trauma from being dumped by his girlfriend by not showing up on their christmas date (ala Amagami SS). Because of this, he decided to become a shut-in from the world of romantic love (not really). He had a habit of reading VNs a lot on his spare time. And thanks to being dumped by his girlfriend, he has found more time to himself and decided to volunteer to translate some of the VNs he liked for the english-speaking world. He then received endless thanks to his habit and decided to form a translation group which, at present, is called Amaterasu Translations.

Due to the trauma, he does not want a girlfriend but he does not realize that he is popular with the girls.. However, this will change when he meets a girl on the way to school. (ala Clannad)


*ehem*

weird synopsis aside, if you really think that doing this volunteer work gives you more pleasure than finding a girlfriend, I for one say that you should stick with this decision. Even if this will lead to a bad end, as long as you really desired this choice you made, you won't leave any regrets.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Ixrec on July 23, 2010, 02:48:29 am
You seem to imply "finding a girlfriend" is a conscious decision that can be done where and when one pleases.  It is more of a happy accident than anything else.

Of course whenever it does happen my translation speed might be affected.  Details whenever.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: kidlat020 on July 23, 2010, 03:04:48 am
Well said Ixrec-sama.

some people might b*tch with my reply actually. And with that, you've received a new item!

"Ixrec obtained additional respect"

... that's not an item actually.

I forgot to ask: how many hours do you usually take to finish a 15kb?
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Ixrec on July 23, 2010, 03:10:51 am
My fastest recorded speeds are bursts of 2 kb in 15 minutes.  So *in theory* I could do 20 kb in 150 minutes (2.5 hours).  In reality, I think it's closer to double that.

Since you specifically asked for 15 kb, I'm guessing that'd take around three hours.

Speed varies wildly on any given day though.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: kidlat020 on July 23, 2010, 10:42:21 am
15kb / 3hr?

then it means 5kb/hr.

that's still fast considering you're using conservative numbers and not frequent numbers.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: JONJONAUG on July 23, 2010, 05:31:04 pm
http://www.mediafire.com/?vxqs11sknypcccd

OK Yuyucow what is this really? I'm afraid to open random exe files on the internet.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: kViN on July 23, 2010, 06:22:35 pm
http://www.mediafire.com/?vxqs11sknypcccd

OK Yuyucow what is this really? I'm afraid to open random exe files on the internet.

It's Demon Castle Dracula X: Rondo of Blood v1.11. I actually didn't make the thread, just the third reply to show the staff it was a troll. The guy is obviously some anon from /jp/ because he used White Ren's trip which was leaked there.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: shinikage on July 24, 2010, 01:13:02 am
great work on translating this game guys
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: kidlat020 on July 24, 2010, 03:05:23 am
Quote
thats the day i'll be pressing/trolling/annoying the betatesters/editors/qcers/etc so they get it done asap
If you rush us, we'll just go slower :P
heh, you dont know how I do this stuff...

...but you're lucky, seems ill  be getting some important stuff to do from the 20th onwards..... free time will plunge D:

Then let me do the honors Oh you who is so genius Catastrophe.

...

Nah, not really.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Mirrored on July 24, 2010, 01:29:18 pm
Big congrats to the Amaterasus team on completing this part of the project and good luck with the work on ML:A ahead. Huge credit to the community.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: KoiNoDensetsu on July 24, 2010, 05:37:29 pm
Thanks for all the hard work.  The Muv-Luv project is almost half-way finished already.  さすがアマテラス~
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: JONJONAUG on July 24, 2010, 11:28:17 pm
Will we be getting translations for the song lyrics like we were told we would?
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Ixrec on July 24, 2010, 11:31:47 pm
Will we be getting translations for the song lyrics like we were told we would?

For MLA, absolutely.  For ML, you're the first person to even mention it. So...lol.

But seriously, I'll go look into that since I finished all of the counter edits and the plot summary today.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Moogy on July 25, 2010, 01:08:56 am
I thought the Unlimited ED was a pretty nice song, at least.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Mirrored on July 25, 2010, 01:13:01 am
Ah, just finished Sumika and Meiya routes.

I have to say that Sumika's character just really shines in this one and that because of all the absurdity Meiya is tied to, it makes it really difficult to see her with Takeru.

Also, the context of the Exam Week changes everything-- if you play it through Sumika's route, it seems like light-hearted teasing. If you play it through Meiya's route, it seems cruel and terrible.

I think that ML:E may be a bit underrated because I see all of the setup work that it may have done, with the Parallel Computing, the Test Questions, the Mech scenes, and a few other themes/moments that I can tell are going to add up to something big. It may not have been, in and of itself, that great, but due to all of the legwork done here, we can get a huge payoff.

The game is basically exposition with humor, and for Sumika's route, a fairly satisfying ending. I think Meiya was too constrained by the presence of Sumika, by comparison to her, and by the general absurdity of circumstances. I think ML:U is going to give a very different feel just by that one change.

As for ML:A-- if it incorporates/synthesizes like I think it could, I can't imagine it being anything short of incredible. Its release is going to be a long awaited day.

The other routes, I haven't checked yet, but my feeling is, that they are basically "Gee, we made an Eroge, gotta fill it with girls to sell it so we can keep developing." I don't feel that they would put any great exposition in the other girls and I feel like it's just going to be very cheap melodrama if I checked them out-- maybe I'm wrong there.

But all in all, for those two routes, I agree with a 7/10. But in terms of the value I can see Extra adding in the future-- I see big value there.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Ixrec on July 25, 2010, 01:40:37 am
I thought the Unlimited ED was a pretty nice song, at least.

I think all the OPs EDs are nice, but nothing special really.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: gabgrave on July 25, 2010, 03:38:06 am
I thought the Unlimited ED was a pretty nice song, at least.

I think all the OPs EDs are nice, but nothing special really.

Ending for Unlimited, Song of a distant Earth, was also the title for a novel by Arthur C. Clark
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Moogy on July 25, 2010, 04:31:25 am
That's also the title of the last chapter of Unlimited.

Personally, I can't get enough of Carry On and Tsubasa. Fucking awesome lyrics too.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: gdam on July 25, 2010, 04:41:54 pm
Obligatory "PATCH WHERE" post.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Ixrec on July 25, 2010, 05:13:34 pm
Obligatory "PATCH WHERE" post.

QC patch should be later today.  That means real patch soon.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: DxS on July 25, 2010, 06:46:48 pm
Obligatory "PATCH WHERE" post.

QC patch should be later today.  That means real patch soon.

That's good to know thanks for the info :)
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: kidlat020 on July 26, 2010, 06:10:23 am
how "soon" is soon?

can I wait it within the day? 24 hrs? I'm reeeally happy like Sumika and Kasumi right now.

Oh, I just noticed a wonderful spoiler on my own. Darn.. Don't click the spoiler tag if you noticed something...obvious(?)

[spoiler]Sumika = Kasumi. If you'll notice they both have "Mi", "Su", and "Ka". Take Sumika's name, then use TextTwist a bit and you'll also reach Kasumi. If I'm right, whatever plot device they have in store for me, well....[/spoiler]
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Nagato on July 26, 2010, 11:05:24 am
Soon as in whenever QCing finishes. Assuming no show stopping bugs, sometime this week. Can't really give you any better of an estimate than that.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Belgaesh on July 26, 2010, 11:44:56 am
Excellent job with another work completed.

Can't wait for the patch! Even though I still have to finish Sumika's route, but with all the others finished, gonna see if I can finish it today.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: kidlat020 on July 26, 2010, 01:50:12 pm
I *almost* cried with Sumika's last words in MLE. Oh, the agony...

So Nagato says 1 week. To make things a little interesting, I'll predict that the patch will be out on August 10.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Ixrec on July 26, 2010, 02:56:43 pm
I *almost* cried with Sumika's last words in MLE. Oh, the agony...

So Nagato says 1 week. To make things a little interesting, I'll predict that the patch will be out on August 10.

To clarify, the norm is within 1 week of translation finishing.  That'd put it at the 29th.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: kidlat020 on July 26, 2010, 03:20:58 pm
I *almost* cried with Sumika's last words in MLE. Oh, the agony...

So Nagato says 1 week. To make things a little interesting, I'll predict that the patch will be out on August 10.

To clarify, the norm is within 1 week of translation finishing.  That'd put it at the 29th.

isn't that 2 days from now?

I'm glad Nagato is fast, but, you see, I've been in the bug testing scene myself and I learned the hard way. Not that I want delays myself.

If anything's wrong there's always the error report thread.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: KoiNoDensetsu on July 26, 2010, 04:32:49 pm
I *almost* cried with Sumika's last words in MLE. Oh, the agony...

So Nagato says 1 week. To make things a little interesting, I'll predict that the patch will be out on August 10.

To clarify, the norm is within 1 week of translation finishing.  That'd put it at the 29th.

isn't that 2 days from now?

Three days.  But I guess it depends where you live. lol
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Ixrec on July 26, 2010, 06:49:11 pm
Forgot to mention I did get all the lyrics translated. They'll be in the patch.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Mirrored on July 26, 2010, 07:06:48 pm
Nice.

If there is a music box mode after, does it provide the names of the songs?

If not, what is the name of this one?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7L4N4GGbwzM
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Shikiller on July 26, 2010, 07:30:53 pm
The music box is translated.
the name of that bgm is "Creeping Anxiety"
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Ixrec on July 26, 2010, 08:09:54 pm
Nice.

If there is a music box mode after, does it provide the names of the songs?

If not, what is the name of this one?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7L4N4GGbwzM

There is a music box mode, though we couldn't translate the track titles because they would have been illegibly tiny in English. The one you linked is something like "Creeping Doubt."
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Mirrored on July 26, 2010, 09:24:23 pm
Thanks buddies.

Great stuff. I really dig UL. MLE sort of wore on me after awhile but all of MLU has been really enjoyable.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: DxS on July 26, 2010, 09:40:12 pm
Looking back I really should have played the partial patch when it came out, since now i have a full time job and University coming up at the beginning of September (not to mention Koihime Musou and DemonBane's release).

Oh, well i'm sure i'll find some time thanks for all the hard work guys.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: jhelpme on July 26, 2010, 10:37:10 pm
Sorry if this has already been mentioned, but I was wondering how you were handling Takeru's endgame speech. I see in the readme that it's voice only, and was wondering if you were able to insert text for it like at the end of Ayamine's route or if a translation would just be supplied in a new readme?
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Ixrec on July 26, 2010, 10:46:27 pm
Sorry if this has already been mentioned, but I was wondering how you were handling Takeru's endgame speech. I see in the readme that it's voice only, and was wondering if you were able to insert text for it like at the end of Ayamine's route or if a translation would just be supplied in a new readme?

It's in the readme. The Ayamine route thing we got lucky on because that voice took place during a blank line of text we were able to extract (yes the tools extracted a blank line and inserted a not-blank line in its place). The speech at the end of MLU is a video. Videos in rUGP are not happening.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Nightdragon on July 28, 2010, 11:21:57 pm
honestly while the "action" in the story was imo cheezy its not that bad of a story, the humor was good enough to keep me going, granted Ive been a fan of stuiped humor anyway and there was plenty of that.

But honestly I think any of us guys put into a situation like that, suddenly transported to a different universe with "favorite mech of choice" and the 180 is complete possible I mean if I where suddenly put into the battletech world first I would pretty much go though all the things Takaru went though then after being told I could pilot a mech I would be almost all grins and so psyched that I don't think anyone could be able to stop me.

The H scences eh they where decent but really it was more story than anything else.

So Thanks Ixrec for the translation and hard work and the rest of the peoples for doing there part. Can't wait for MLA =)
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: KoiNoDensetsu on July 28, 2010, 11:57:10 pm
After finishing UL, this is why I think they EX and UL are necessary before playing AL:

[spoiler]The EX and UL universe only exist to help the Alternative operations succeed. (this was all planned by Yuuko in the AL universe)  I'm not exactly sure how it will end up being significant, but the EX universe was created so that Takeru-tachi could experience a peaceful life without war.
After this is experienced, Takeru is taken to the UL universe with the knowledge of a peaceful "normal" life.  Kasumi analyzes Sumika's brain in that chamber while he learns to operate TSFs.  Her knowledge will somehow become significant in AL.
Thus, with this information obtained, Alternative V will succeed.  Takeru is already experienced in combat in this universe.[/spoiler]

...Or something like that.  I don't think that came out well since I am too tired to think properly now.;;

Also, I heard that [spoiler]Manami appears in AL as a nurse!  And those that have played KimiNozo know what that nurse does... O_O  Maybe she has something to do with that "violent H-scene" that has caused so much controversy?  I heard Mitsuki dies in MLA (unfortunately got spoiled...), so I hope it's her that gets the mega guro H-scene~ :P[/spoiler]
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Moogy on July 29, 2010, 02:13:24 am
Both of those are completely wrong.

The only Kiminozo characters in Alternative are Akane, Mitsuki, and Haruka.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Ixrec on July 29, 2010, 02:14:40 am
Both of those are completely wrong.

The only Kiminozo characters in Alternative are Akane, Mitsuki, and Haruka.

First one is him guessing, second is him trolling.  They're both supposed to be wrong.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: KoiNoDensetsu on July 29, 2010, 04:41:00 am
Both of those are completely wrong.

The only Kiminozo characters in Alternative are Akane, Mitsuki, and Haruka.

First one is him guessing, second is him trolling.  They're both supposed to be wrong.

First isn't supposed to be wrong since it was only me guessing.

Second wasn't a troll.  I got that information from the Kimi ga Nozomu Eien wiki (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kimi_ga_nozomu_eien#Muv-Luv).
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: gabgrave on July 29, 2010, 05:11:02 am
The nurse does appear, see after Mitsuki's big bang.

To the first, to quote the op lyrics, "The power of Man is LOVE"... thats how the whole thing started, and ended... SUMIKAAAA!!! T_T
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: KoiNoDensetsu on July 29, 2010, 11:30:12 am
Uwaaah...  The CG on the MLA site look so pretty: http://www.muvluv.com/alternative/picture.htm  I love how everyone is making "beautiful emotional poses".  The CG with Tama looks like it is a sad scene... :'(
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: shinikage on July 29, 2010, 12:51:02 pm
i just finished MLA a few days ago and it seems to not have an extra menu for watching the game CG, very disappointing
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: DxS on July 29, 2010, 08:29:04 pm
i just finished MLA a few days ago and it seems to not have an extra menu for watching the game CG, very disappointing

If you finish Unlimited it all gets unlocked.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Belgaesh on July 29, 2010, 08:43:01 pm
i just finished MLA a few days ago and it seems to not have an extra menu for watching the game CG, very disappointing

If you finish Unlimited it all gets unlocked.

I think that he is saying MLA that stands for Muv-Luv Alternative.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: DxS on July 29, 2010, 08:55:46 pm
i just finished MLA a few days ago and it seems to not have an extra menu for watching the game CG, very disappointing

If you finish Unlimited it all gets unlocked.

I think that he is saying MLA that stands for Muv-Luv Alternative.

Woops now i feel embarrassed.though i'm surprised that Alternative doesn't have a CG display screen that seems weird.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Ixrec on July 29, 2010, 09:22:01 pm
i just finished MLA a few days ago and it seems to not have an extra menu for watching the game CG, very disappointing

If you finish Unlimited it all gets unlocked.

I think that he is saying MLA that stands for Muv-Luv Alternative.

Woops now i feel embarrassed.though i'm surprised that Alternative doesn't have a CG display screen that seems weird.

Alternative is sooooo lacking in extra menus that the addition of a "chapter selection" option to the all ages version is by far the most appealing reason to get that edition.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Belgaesh on July 29, 2010, 10:28:57 pm
i just finished MLA a few days ago and it seems to not have an extra menu for watching the game CG, very disappointing

If you finish Unlimited it all gets unlocked.

I think that he is saying MLA that stands for Muv-Luv Alternative.

Woops now i feel embarrassed.though i'm surprised that Alternative doesn't have a CG display screen that seems weird.

Alternative is sooooo lacking in extra menus that the addition of a "chapter selection" option to the all ages version is by far the most appealing reason to get that edition.

I've read in TakaJun's review that Alternative extras system is even worse than in the original. Although I haven't played the game yet.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Shikiller on July 29, 2010, 11:35:06 pm
Alternative doesn't have a bonus section. It's just
New Game
Continue
Exit Game

No CG gallery, no music box, no scene selection.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Nightdragon on July 30, 2010, 05:55:03 pm
well its not like there are multiple routes so
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Moogy on July 30, 2010, 06:32:41 pm
What do routes have to do with it? It'd still be nice to be able to look through the CGs.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: SaMo0204 on July 30, 2010, 08:07:55 pm
Just finished Muv-Luv (Extra+Unlimited).
In the CG completion ratio just say 99%..... maybe I miss something???
I alredy try to use the walkthrough that come with the patch.. and nothing.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Spin569874123 on July 30, 2010, 08:10:04 pm
Did you get the CG with Tama and the sniper rifle?(Not the animation where she's in the mech)
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: SaMo0204 on July 30, 2010, 08:23:21 pm
Did you get the CG with Tama and the sniper rifle?(Not the animation where she's in the mech)

you mean that one during the examination??
Yeah i have that one.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Spin569874123 on July 30, 2010, 08:46:14 pm
Marimo route? Yuuko route?
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Belgaesh on July 30, 2010, 09:06:40 pm
What do routes have to do with it? It'd still be nice to be able to look through the CGs.

Yeah, I've feel the same. The game is great, even so i would like to be able to see the CGs.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: SaMo0204 on July 31, 2010, 09:34:00 am
Marimo route? Yuuko route?

i dunno..... i just finished all the 19 endings...
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: AcroRay on August 01, 2010, 08:02:38 pm
Interview with Sou Miyata, Muv-Luv character designer on TOTAL ECLIPSE, done during his visit to Anime Expo:

http://www.t-ono.net/Interview/Sou-Miyata-Interview-Muv-Luv.html

I wish I'd have known he was there (Missed the news, somehow!) or I'd have had a friend get me a sketch!  :'(
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: shinikage on August 02, 2010, 01:42:02 pm
i would like to see the new muvluv game that came out this month, i think its name is muvluv chronicle 1 or something
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Moogy on August 03, 2010, 02:17:03 am
The Day After episode 0 was pretty damn awesome; much better than I was expecting, really. Nice cast (no more Extra bullshit here), and it does a very good job of expanding on the Unlimited universe. The themes it explores perfectly tie into what gets discussed at the end of Unlimited and it really does a lot to make that ending more meaningful. It's not just an Alternative world story set in the Unlimited world, I guess is the best way to explain it.

It'll be quite interesting to see how The Day After compares to Total Eclipse, or rather how the aftermath of Alternative 5 compares to the aftermath of Alternative 4.

Also, the presentation in The Day After puts even Alternative to shame. The fight scene in episode 0 isn't as good as the craziest fights in Alternative, but everything else is better than ever. There's lipsync for CGs now, for instance, and they finally corrected the damn "preceding paragraph" thing. It helps that the tachie are no longer the shit from Extra, too... I can't wait to see the crazy shit they pull in later episodes of The Day After and especially Total Eclipse.

Anyway, I haven't gone through the rest of Chronicles 01 yet, but TDA episode 0 was definitely the main attraction. It's a must-play for any Muvluv fan.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: XenoArt on August 03, 2010, 04:01:05 pm
By the way, are there any plans to translate Alternative Chronicles?
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Nagato on August 03, 2010, 04:03:04 pm
No.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: shinikage on August 03, 2010, 07:42:58 pm
i guess for the moment the only plans are for alternative and maybe altered fable after that, i guess we will have to wait until those 2 are done
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Nagato on August 03, 2010, 08:50:56 pm
Altered Fable isn't planned either.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Mirrored on August 04, 2010, 12:38:29 am
I'd imagine after doing basically a year of MuvLuv, the team would probably want to move on to something else-- gotta keep it fresh.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Ixrec on August 04, 2010, 01:31:03 am
I'd imagine after doing basically a year of MuvLuv, the team would probably want to move on to something else-- gotta keep it fresh.

That was the explicit plan since the project was announced.  I have no intention of translating any other MuvLuv games, nor does Nagato have any intention of hacking them.  If AF or Chronicles or w/e is going to happen, it'll be some other group entirely.

That or I spend 3 years on Liarsoft, notice the other ML games are still untouched for some reason and feel like doing one anyway.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Mirrored on August 04, 2010, 10:46:19 am
Haha, man, you really seem deep into the Liarsoft stuff.

Forest sounds pretty cool too.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Belgaesh on August 04, 2010, 02:16:13 pm
I'd imagine after doing basically a year of MuvLuv, the team would probably want to move on to something else-- gotta keep it fresh.

That was the explicit plan since the project was announced.  I have no intention of translating any other MuvLuv games, nor does Nagato have any intention of hacking them.  If AF or Chronicles or w/e is going to happen, it'll be some other group entirely.

That or I spend 3 years on Liarsoft, notice the other ML games are still untouched for some reason and feel like doing one anyway.

Looks like there isn't gonna be another poll after Alternative, because Ixrec already decided the next project.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: DxS on August 04, 2010, 04:44:27 pm
I'd imagine after doing basically a year of MuvLuv, the team would probably want to move on to something else-- gotta keep it fresh.

That was the explicit plan since the project was announced.  I have no intention of translating any other MuvLuv games, nor does Nagato have any intention of hacking them.  If AF or Chronicles or w/e is going to happen, it'll be some other group entirely.

That or I spend 3 years on Liarsoft, notice the other ML games are still untouched for some reason and feel like doing one anyway.

Looks like there isn't gonna be another poll after Alternative, because Ixrec already decided the next project.

I'm pretty sure Ixrec's already decided the next 3 or 4 project.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Ixrec on August 04, 2010, 04:48:29 pm
I'd imagine after doing basically a year of MuvLuv, the team would probably want to move on to something else-- gotta keep it fresh.

That was the explicit plan since the project was announced.  I have no intention of translating any other MuvLuv games, nor does Nagato have any intention of hacking them.  If AF or Chronicles or w/e is going to happen, it'll be some other group entirely.

That or I spend 3 years on Liarsoft, notice the other ML games are still untouched for some reason and feel like doing one anyway.

Looks like there isn't gonna be another poll after Alternative, because Ixrec already decided the next project.

I'm pretty sure Ixrec's already decided the next 3 or 4 project.

*Technically* nothing's decided, but we're pretty sure we want to do Sharnoth and Forest next (in either order) and to my knowledge this is what people want us to do anyway, so not much point in discussing it.  There are no specific plans for after that, though anything with an 8 or higher in my reviews is a possibility.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Belgaesh on August 04, 2010, 05:44:35 pm
I'd imagine after doing basically a year of MuvLuv, the team would probably want to move on to something else-- gotta keep it fresh.

That was the explicit plan since the project was announced.  I have no intention of translating any other MuvLuv games, nor does Nagato have any intention of hacking them.  If AF or Chronicles or w/e is going to happen, it'll be some other group entirely.

That or I spend 3 years on Liarsoft, notice the other ML games are still untouched for some reason and feel like doing one anyway.

Looks like there isn't gonna be another poll after Alternative, because Ixrec already decided the next project.

I'm pretty sure Ixrec's already decided the next 3 or 4 project.

*Technically* nothing's decided, but we're pretty sure we want to do Sharnoth and Forest next (in either order) and to my knowledge this is what people want us to do anyway, so not much point in discussing it.  There are no specific plans for after that, though anything with an 8 or higher in my reviews is a possibility.

About Sharnoth, what happens with the already existing project.

I don't know if it's dead or alive.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Ixrec on August 04, 2010, 05:51:12 pm
I'd imagine after doing basically a year of MuvLuv, the team would probably want to move on to something else-- gotta keep it fresh.

That was the explicit plan since the project was announced.  I have no intention of translating any other MuvLuv games, nor does Nagato have any intention of hacking them.  If AF or Chronicles or w/e is going to happen, it'll be some other group entirely.

That or I spend 3 years on Liarsoft, notice the other ML games are still untouched for some reason and feel like doing one anyway.

Looks like there isn't gonna be another poll after Alternative, because Ixrec already decided the next project.

I'm pretty sure Ixrec's already decided the next 3 or 4 project.

*Technically* nothing's decided, but we're pretty sure we want to do Sharnoth and Forest next (in either order) and to my knowledge this is what people want us to do anyway, so not much point in discussing it.  There are no specific plans for after that, though anything with an 8 or higher in my reviews is a possibility.

About Sharnoth, what happens with the already existing project.

I don't know if it's dead or alive.

No one ever expected it to go anywhere and it's been dead for months.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Belgaesh on August 04, 2010, 07:00:19 pm
Are going to review Sharnoth, Ixrec?
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Moogy on August 04, 2010, 07:14:16 pm
sharnoth review: lol enjoy the terrible ending that resolves nothing

the writing is good at least so 7/10
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Ixrec on August 04, 2010, 07:28:08 pm
Are going to review Sharnoth, Ixrec?

I review everything I play.  I will play all the WABs.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: izmosmolnar on August 05, 2010, 04:17:59 am
[...]and to my knowledge this is what people want us to do anyway, so not much point in discussing it.  [...]
[CITATION NEEDED]
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Ixrec on August 05, 2010, 09:13:12 am
[...]and to my knowledge this is what people want us to do anyway, so not much point in discussing it.  [...]
[CITATION NEEDED]

>implying there's any way to objectively measure what they want

Is there some other game I'm forgetting?
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Kiru on August 05, 2010, 09:31:06 am
[...]and to my knowledge this is what people want us to do anyway, so not much point in discussing it.  [...]
[CITATION NEEDED]

>implying there's any way to objectively measure what they want

Is there some other game I'm forgetting?

Rui wa Tomo wo Yobu
Or whatever became of Koitate...
or... there's probably enough. Though imo Sharnoth sounds nice as well. :D
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Ixrec on August 05, 2010, 09:38:50 am
[...]and to my knowledge this is what people want us to do anyway, so not much point in discussing it.  [...]
[CITATION NEEDED]

>implying there's any way to objectively measure what they want

Is there some other game I'm forgetting?

Rui wa Tomo wo Yobu
Or whatever became of Koitate...
or... there's probably enough. Though imo Sharnoth sounds nice as well. :D

RuiTomo's quite the minority, far smaller than the Liarfags (yay!), and I've never heard any enthusiasm for KoiTate.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: kidlat020 on August 05, 2010, 09:56:24 am
[...]and to my knowledge this is what people want us to do anyway, so not much point in discussing it.  [...]
[CITATION NEEDED]

>implying there's any way to objectively measure what they want

Is there some other game I'm forgetting?
Twinkle Crusaders~
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Kiru on August 05, 2010, 11:57:50 am
[...]and to my knowledge this is what people want us to do anyway, so not much point in discussing it.  [...]
[CITATION NEEDED]

>implying there's any way to objectively measure what they want

Is there some other game I'm forgetting?

Rui wa Tomo wo Yobu
Or whatever became of Koitate...
or... there's probably enough. Though imo Sharnoth sounds nice as well. :D

RuiTomo's quite the minority, far smaller than the Liarfags (yay!), and I've never heard any enthusiasm for KoiTate.

Are there really so many (english) liarfags? Not that I mind, but it somewhat surprises me. Well I mean Kia WAS cute, but that was only one part of why I liked Inganock...
Anyway, I'm interested in all of the above, so in this case it doesn't really matter to me.

The novel I'm looking most forward to seeing translated is Baldr Sky (aside of stuff like Katahane) anyway and only god knows if that ever happens. (Afaik it's pretty long, so no news about the translation-project might not mean much...)
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Ixrec on August 05, 2010, 12:24:28 pm
Baldr Sky's been in the works for a while now.  The guy doing it is just really quiet so you aren't going to hear ANYTHING until the patch suddenly appears.  He's done a lot in the past (like Haruhi anime and novels) so we know he's trustworthy.

And while there are not a ton of Liarfags, there are quite a few, and from what I've seen there is more interest in me translating Sharnoth, or in me translating Forest, than any other specific VN (people who just say "not more furry shit" don't count as having a specific opinion).
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: izmosmolnar on August 05, 2010, 03:29:34 pm
To be honest I think more people would want Reika Bitch Training than another liarsoft game again (followed by one again, then one again etc). Entirely serious now.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: DxS on August 05, 2010, 04:04:00 pm
Baldr Sky's been in the works for a while now.  The guy doing it is just really quiet so you aren't going to hear ANYTHING until the patch suddenly appears.  He's done a lot in the past (like Haruhi anime and novels) so we know he's trustworthy.

And while there are not a ton of Liarfags, there are quite a few, and from what I've seen there is more interest in me translating Sharnoth, or in me translating Forest, than any other specific VN (people who just say "not more furry shit" don't count as having a specific opinion).

Well that's surprising i though it had been dropped. I wonder who's working with him then.

What if Kusarihime and/or Valusia is better than Sharnoth?
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Moogy on August 05, 2010, 04:04:36 pm
I can assure you that Kusarihime is far, far better than Sharnoth.

I haven't played Valusia though.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Ixrec on August 05, 2010, 06:17:38 pm
What if Kusarihime and/or Valusia is better than Sharnoth?

Sharnoth is the one people are actively interested in, but once I read and review those two games (which should happen before I finish MLA) we'll see what the opinions are.

Also, Forest got a 10/10, so that one's happening anyway no matter what people want :P
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Mirrored on August 05, 2010, 06:41:37 pm
I want Forest first because your review made it sound awesome. SnI was great, so anything Liarsoft would be fun.

I really dig their art style. It's very fantastic.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Moogy on August 05, 2010, 07:31:12 pm
unfortunately the CGs in Forest are pretty terrible

the tachie, at least, are great. a wonderful variety of outfits and all of them have excellent color schemes and composition

i don't know what's up with the CGs though, maybe they were running out of time or something
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: KoiNoDensetsu on August 05, 2010, 10:41:59 pm
To be honest I think more people would want Reika Bitch Training than another liarsoft game again (followed by one again, then one again etc). Entirely serious now.

I agree.  I actually never heard of the Liarsoft games until I started posting hear.  But Reika?  Everyone knows that game!
(...granted, I would rather have an LS translation since LS games are story-based (minus Bloomers 2000), whereas Reika is a crappy nukige with pig fucking. :P)

But I think we are all forgetting the eroge everyone has wanted since (...checks release date; ah, I was right) 2001 - KimiNozo!  It would make a perfect dish after MLA and Forest. (age/Liar-Soft/age/Liar Soft)
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Kiru on August 06, 2010, 02:26:50 am
But I think we are all forgetting the eroge only KoiNoDensetsu has wanted since (...checks release date; ah, I was right) 2001 - KimiNozo!  It would make a perfect dish after MLA and Forest. (age/Liar-Soft/age/Liar Soft)

Fixed.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: DxS on August 06, 2010, 05:44:16 am
To be honest I think more people would want Reika Bitch Training than another liarsoft game again (followed by one again, then one again etc). Entirely serious now.

I agree.  I actually never heard of the Liarsoft games until I started posting hear.  But Reika?  Everyone knows that game!
(...granted, I would rather have an LS translation since LS games are story-based (minus Bloomers 2000), whereas Reika is a crappy nukige with pig fucking. :P)

But I think we are all forgetting the eroge everyone has wanted since (...checks release date; ah, I was right) 2001 - KimiNozo!  It would make a perfect dish after MLA and Forest. (age/Liar-Soft/age/Liar Soft)

didn't we already go over the fact that it wasn't a nukige......

Also i doubt KimiNozo will be translated by Ixrec anytime soon i mean before that he has to translate all those liarsoft titles cause he's a liarfag and then any games he gives over an 8.5 and and game he gave an 8.5 that he'd rather translate. Its gonna take quite a few years. 
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: KoiNoDensetsu on August 06, 2010, 12:56:14 pm
But I think we are all forgetting the eroge only KoiNoDensetsu has wanted since (...checks release date; ah, I was right) 2001 - KimiNozo!  It would make a perfect dish after MLA and Forest. (age/Liar-Soft/age/Liar Soft)

Fixed.

Currently, 19 (and possibly 22) out of 23 MangaGamers disagree with that statement (http://mangagamer.site11.com/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=834). ;)

Quote
didn't we already go over the fact that it wasn't a nukige......

I was kidding...
(Though I'm nothing is definite about that title until I play it)

Quote
Also i doubt KimiNozo will be translated by Ixrec anytime soon i mean before that he has to translate all those liarsoft titles cause he's a liarfag and then any games he gives over an 8.5 and and game he gave an 8.5 that he'd rather translate. Its gonna take quite a few years. 

Even if Ixrec doesn't TL KimiNozo soon, it would make the most sense to TL something from other companies in between.  Not everyone likes their games, so it would kind of suck if they go the way of NNL and cater to only one audience.  Granted, I would excuse that if the companies games in question get really high scores from Ixrec/are in demand.  But Sharnoth and the majority of other LS games supposedly aren't as good as Forest and Ignock, and LS isn't exactly that popular in the English community from what I have seen.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Kiru on August 06, 2010, 01:30:26 pm
Even if Ixrec doesn't TL KimiNozo soon, it would make the most sense to TL something from other companies in between.  Not everyone likes their games, so it would kind of suck if they go the way of NNL and cater to only one audience.  Granted, I would excuse that if the companies games in question get really high scores from Ixrec/are in demand.  But Sharnoth and the majority of other LS games supposedly aren't as good as Forest and Ignock, and LS isn't exactly that popular in the English community from what I have seen.

Well, after 5mb text from age there shouldn't be a big problem with ~2,5mb Liar-stuff. :D (Muv-Luv is far too long...)
But it's still a long way ago.
Ixrec could just make a poll here and ask "Another Liar or something different" after the first Liar-game... or something.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Ixrec on August 06, 2010, 02:02:26 pm
KimiNozo is one of the games I might do after I've had enough MuvLuv and Liarsoft for a while, but given it's rUGP (and Nagato's retiring after MLA) it may not be so easy to get tools.  Besides, like KnD said it might be nicer to do something completely unrelated to my past projects, like Parfait.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: KoiNoDensetsu on August 06, 2010, 02:14:09 pm
Even if Ixrec doesn't TL KimiNozo soon, it would make the most sense to TL something from other companies in between.  Not everyone likes their games, so it would kind of suck if they go the way of NNL and cater to only one audience.  Granted, I would excuse that if the companies games in question get really high scores from Ixrec/are in demand.  But Sharnoth and the majority of other LS games supposedly aren't as good as Forest and Ignock, and LS isn't exactly that popular in the English community from what I have seen.

Well, after 5mb text from age there shouldn't be a big problem with ~2,5mb Liar-stuff. :D (Muv-Luv is far too long...)
But it's still a long way ago.
Ixrec could just make a poll here and ask "Another Liar or something different" after the first Liar-game... or something.

Lol since we all know how accurate and civilized polls go here. ;D

Something other than an LS game should get TLed after Forest for the reasons I have already said. (redundancy and the fact that other games would be more popular)
KimiNozo would make the most sense (and I am not just saying that because I want it lol; read on) because it is somewhat of a non-traditional prequel to Muv-Luv.  So MLA fans see KGNE cast in MLA, Forrest is released for LS fans (and if it as good as Ixrec says, the general VN community; at least those that know about it), then the ML prequel is translated.  Whoo, consistency~
But if not KimiNozo (though it should be >_>), then Saihate no IMA would make the most sense.  It gives the "company/author break" that I talked about with MLA and KGNE (Ixrec hasn't TLed a Romeo game since CC...), and is wanted by relatively the same amount of people as Sharnoth (if not more).  Or at least that's what I see in request threads.

But really, it is all up to Ixrec what to translate. (he could always translate amazingly terrible Reika Bitch Training~)  I am just giving my opinion on what I think would be the most "logical" translation order.


Edit: Ixrec already replied lol.
If you need help hacking KimiNozo, I could get part of my "KGNE team" to help.  As I have stated before, I am in a translation project for KGNE - it just sucks because no one is active besides one editor (who sucks, no offense to him/her) and the hacker who makes staff patches.  But the (bad) translation only goes at around 1KB~ish a year, and that was when the TLers didn't leave after the first chapter... >_>
But what I am getting at is that the hacker was able to hack the LatestEdition (or at least the demo) to make a staff patch and insert text.  If he is still active (he was active last time I checked, for at least what little work was made), maybe he could help.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Ixrec on August 06, 2010, 02:24:48 pm
I was aware tools existed, but also that they were very inferior to what we used for MuvLuv.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: KoiNoDensetsu on August 06, 2010, 02:31:15 pm
I was aware tools existed, but also that they were very inferior to what we used for MuvLuv.

I'm not sure what the differences are since I don't do hacking, but it was able to insert text perfectly.  I'm not sure what else could be such of an endeavor to hack.  The two (?) comedy monologue scenes where Takayuki speaks obnoxiously about the girls was left without subs, but that could just go ala MLU into a read-me file.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Ixrec on August 06, 2010, 03:21:56 pm
I was aware tools existed, but also that they were very inferior to what we used for MuvLuv.

I'm not sure what the differences are since I don't do hacking, but it was able to insert text perfectly.  I'm not sure what else could be such of an endeavor to hack.  The two (?) comedy monologue scenes where Takayuki speaks obnoxiously about the girls was left without subs, but that could just go ala MLU into a read-me file.

choices
images
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Moogy on August 06, 2010, 03:41:49 pm
Someone is already interested in translating Kiminozo, so just hold your horses for a bit until he decides what he wants to do. He should be finished translating his current project(s) within no more than a few months.

I can vouch for his quality and reliability.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Ixrec on August 06, 2010, 04:26:11 pm
Someone is already interested in translating Kiminozo, so just hold your horses for a bit until he decides what he wants to do. He should be finished translating his current project(s) within no more than a few months.

I can vouch for his quality and reliability.

Well that's new.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: KoiNoDensetsu on August 06, 2010, 05:09:56 pm
I was aware tools existed, but also that they were very inferior to what we used for MuvLuv.

I'm not sure what the differences are since I don't do hacking, but it was able to insert text perfectly.  I'm not sure what else could be such of an endeavor to hack.  The two (?) comedy monologue scenes where Takayuki speaks obnoxiously about the girls was left without subs, but that could just go ala MLU into a read-me file.

choices
images

Choices were no problem. (excluding the fact that the Engrish sucked lol)
Game date images weren't edited, but it was only a "staff" patch.  So who knows if said hacker even had the capability to edit those images.  I'm surprised the project even got someone competent and loyal enough to hack the engine, to be honest. =/

Quote
Someone is already interested in translating Kiminozo, so just hold your horses for a bit until he decides what he wants to do. He should be finished translating his current project(s) within no more than a few months.

I can vouch for his quality and reliability.

Assuming you aren't referring to Ixrec (since he has expressed some interest in TLing it and is working on MLA and Clover Witch geemu), that is great to hear that others are interested.  Hopefully, something happens~
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: DxS on August 06, 2010, 05:14:19 pm
KimiNozo is one of the games I might do after I've had enough MuvLuv and Liarsoft for a while, but given it's rUGP (and Nagato's retiring after MLA) it may not be so easy to get tools.  Besides, like KnD said it might be nicer to do something completely unrelated to my past projects, like Parfait.

This please. I'll love you forever ;D

Its too bad that Nagato's retiring i guess you'll have to find a new hacker or just not have a set hacker and get whoever is qualified for each project you do.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: DxS on August 06, 2010, 05:16:33 pm
Someone is already interested in translating Kiminozo, so just hold your horses for a bit until he decides what he wants to do. He should be finished translating his current project(s) within no more than a few months.

I can vouch for his quality and reliability.

Well that's new.

This.

definitely did not expect I guess a lot of people will have to get it off their VNs that'll never get translated list.

I wonder if it'll be another fake username like Love_Aristocrat and we'll keep guessing as to who it is. 
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Moogy on August 06, 2010, 05:26:31 pm
Nah, I just don't want to say who's interested in it unless he actually starts it.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: JONJONAUG on August 10, 2010, 08:45:12 pm
Quote
We highly recommend playing only the Sumika and Meiya routes of Extra, and Meiya's ending in Unlimited. The side routes in Extra are painfully bad. You have been warned. The Unlimited endings are basically all identical so there's no real point in playing more than one. However, the short joke ends in both games (MLE Normal Ends, MLE Marimo End and MLU Yuuko End) are probably worth seeing.

You monsters, that was even more depressing than the regular endings.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Shikiller on August 12, 2010, 06:26:56 pm
Yeah I agree, Yuuko ending is totally worth reading.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Zone19871 on August 24, 2010, 01:54:17 pm
Is muv-luv extra and unlimited just a visual novel?
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: kViN on August 24, 2010, 01:58:22 pm
Is muv-luv extra and unlimited just a visual novel?
no, it is a way of understanding true japanese life
bentous, embodiment of japanese food
lacrosse=foreign, drama means they are bad
pointy hair is japanese outstanding technology, mech-shoujos
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Zone19871 on August 24, 2010, 02:04:19 pm
Quote
no, it is a way of understanding true japanese life
bentous, embodiment of japanese food
lacrosse=foreign, drama means they are bad
pointy hair is japanese outstanding technology, mech-shoujos
Lol already get the japanese culture very much from the manga and anime i watch and its pretty good but i want to know is the game a visual novel or not xD
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: izmosmolnar on August 24, 2010, 02:10:33 pm
It's a Real Time Strategy game.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Spin569874123 on August 24, 2010, 02:15:18 pm
It's more like Rapelay.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Zone19871 on August 24, 2010, 02:26:42 pm
Started playing the extra/unlimted verison but so far dont see any strategy parts
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Ixrec on August 24, 2010, 03:27:25 pm
Started playing the extra/unlimted verison but so far dont see any strategy parts

Mercy answer: MuvLuv is a visual novel.  MuvLuv Alternative is another visual novel.

The visual novel that is MuvLuv is split into two parts: Extra and Unlimited.

If the point of your question was whether they contain any interactive gameplay, no, absolutely not.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Zone19871 on August 24, 2010, 03:38:47 pm
Why did everyone had to confuse me and say it was others >.<  :'(
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: DxS on August 24, 2010, 04:02:31 pm
I though it was pretty obvious that they were joking and you really could have gotten the answer by google searching.

If you want a strategy game go play Eien no Aselia.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Zone19871 on August 24, 2010, 08:33:29 pm
i did google it >.< and im downloading that aswell but only ps2 verison cuz i cant find pc verison
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Shikiller on August 24, 2010, 10:11:12 pm
It won't work. The patch is for the pc DVD version only.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: AcroRay on August 30, 2010, 09:30:59 am
There is a turn-based tactical combat game based on Muv Luv Alternative BETA encounters on the ALTERED FABLE disk's TOTAL ECLPISE section, isn't there?  I've heard it's pretty difficult.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Ixrec on August 30, 2010, 10:55:32 am
There is a turn-based tactical combat game based on Muv Luv Alternative BETA encounters on the ALTERED FABLE disk's TOTAL ECLPISE section, isn't there?  I've heard it's pretty difficult.

Yes.  There's also a similarly infamously unwinnable card game in MuvLuv Supplement.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: KoiNoDensetsu on August 30, 2010, 03:11:28 pm
There is a turn-based tactical combat game based on Muv Luv Alternative BETA encounters on the ALTERED FABLE disk's TOTAL ECLPISE section, isn't there?  I've heard it's pretty difficult.

Yes.  There's also a similarly infamously unwinnable card game in MuvLuv Supplement.

I can confirm the "unwinnable" part... >.>
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Sirf*palot on August 31, 2010, 02:04:42 pm
So I was looking at some archived thread from /jp/ (for MLU info and figurine info)  I stumbled apon a spoiler for MLA and I'm wondering how much of the story I spoiled for myself now that I know that
[spoiler]Ixrec: This spoiler has claimed too many victims. It must be double-spoilered to protect others.
[spoiler]sumika's gonna get tentacle graped[/spoiler][/spoiler]


Well, hopefully by the time ixrec finishes the MLA tl, I would have forgotten all about it. Also read some tvtropes spoilers for G-Sen, and I wonder why I keep doing this to myself. If only that MiB memory device existed.   >:(
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: DxS on August 31, 2010, 04:47:09 pm
Dammit why did i click on that spoiler link...
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Sirf*palot on August 31, 2010, 06:24:52 pm
I'm sorry man. Same thing happened to me for G-Sen, the curiousity gets the better of you


So, does anyone know whether or not thats a major spoiler? If so, how much of our/my enjoy of MLA would be dimished.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Ixrec on August 31, 2010, 06:35:26 pm
So, does anyone know whether or not thats a major spoiler? If so, how much of our/my enjoy of MLA would be dimished.

Since you don't know the context of it, it's not too bad. [spoiler] Not to mention the tentacles aren't even the creepiest part of that scene (enjoy your nightmares).[/spoiler]

It will probably be obvious to you when it's about to happen, but probably not too long before that so I wouldn't worry.

Still, people, don't click spoiler tags.  That's just stupid.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Sirf*palot on August 31, 2010, 06:41:55 pm
Thats nice to know Ixrec, thanks.

Kinda intimidating that that scene might be Nightmare fuel lol.

Hopefully Osadai (and other VNs) and my workload for my first year of college will help me forget both spoilers for both G-Sen and MLA, or I'll find a way to repress all my memories of the spoilers and finally patent a way that will help people forget spoilers.

I'll get so much e-penis if that actually happens. loljk
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: KoiNoDensetsu on August 31, 2010, 07:48:49 pm
Too bad I was multitasking and clicked that spoiler because I saw "MLU"...  Oh well.

[spoiler]"Not to mention the tentacles aren't even the creepiest part of that scene (enjoy your nightmares)."[/spoiler]

OMG sounds great! ;D
I hope that scene is somehow caused by a main character (like Yuuko lol) instead of it just being a villain or something.  Drama + shokku da + disturbing scenes = yandere, er, awesome.

But enough talk about these scenes.  We just need to focus our energy on Ixrec so that MLA won't be madaa anymore.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Sirf*palot on August 31, 2010, 08:22:36 pm
Lol, yes, I'm not alone in having that part spoiled........;)

So far thats two confirmed persons.


But really, we should really get into the habit of not clicking on the spoiler tabs instead of the other way around.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Ixrec on August 31, 2010, 08:25:52 pm
But really, we should really get into the habit of not clicking on the spoiler tabs instead of the other way around.

Added some extra security on it.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Ixrec on August 31, 2010, 09:53:18 pm
Regarding MuvLuv Alternative partial patch plans.

Today I ran through all the scripts, organized them, found where each proposed "arc" ended and added up all the sizes.

My original plan was to divide it up by the four huge setpiece battles that take place: Coup d'etat, Sadogashima, Yokohama and Kashgar.

Coup d'etat: 29.676%
Sadogashima: 42.520%
Yokohama: 15.064%
Kashgar: 12.741%

Turns out Sadogashima was just a bit bigger than I thought.  So, the new plan is to merge the last two arcs together so we have three partial patches overall.

Patch 1: Coup d'etat: 29.676%
Patch 2: Sadogashima: 42.520%
Patch 3: Yokohama+Kashgar: 27.805%

Given how closely the last two battles tie into each other, this ought to go over pretty well.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Belgaesh on September 01, 2010, 09:40:09 am
Regarding MuvLuv Alternative partial patch plans.

Today I ran through all the scripts, organized them, found where each proposed "arc" ended and added up all the sizes.

My original plan was to divide it up by the four huge setpiece battles that take place: Coup d'etat, Sadogashima, Yokohama and Kashgar.

Coup d'etat: 29.676%
Sadogashima: 42.520%
Yokohama: 15.064%
Kashgar: 12.741%

Turns out Sadogashima was just a bit bigger than I thought.  So, the new plan is to merge the last two arcs together so we have three partial patches overall.

Patch 1: Coup d'etat: 29.676%
Patch 2: Sadogashima: 42.520%
Patch 3: Yokohama+Kashgar: 27.805%

Given how closely the last two battles tie into each other, this ought to go over pretty well.

I think this will go very well, even though I'm gonna wait for the full patch.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Echoman on September 01, 2010, 09:44:39 am
I will find it very painful to wait for the full patch and ignore the partials...  But, I think I will anyway.  I just hope /jp/ doesn't spoil me in the mean time.  (I can usually recognize and hide a dangerous thread before it's too late, but there are still times that my eye glances over something I wish I had not seen...)
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Ixrec on September 01, 2010, 09:46:35 am
There've been MLA spoilers on /jp/ for years, shouldn't be anything new to try avoiding them all.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Echoman on September 01, 2010, 09:47:44 am
Well yeah, but I imagine it will increase a lot when the partials start getting released.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Moogy on September 01, 2010, 01:02:01 pm
Other than om nom nom and the 00 Unit, most of the major spoilers should be concentrated in the final patch, at least
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: KoiNoDensetsu on September 01, 2010, 08:31:42 pm
Regarding MuvLuv Alternative partial patch plans.

Today I ran through all the scripts, organized them, found where each proposed "arc" ended and added up all the sizes.

My original plan was to divide it up by the four huge setpiece battles that take place: Coup d'etat, Sadogashima, Yokohama and Kashgar.

Coup d'etat: 29.676%
Sadogashima: 42.520%
Yokohama: 15.064%
Kashgar: 12.741%

Turns out Sadogashima was just a bit bigger than I thought.  So, the new plan is to merge the last two arcs together so we have three partial patches overall.

Patch 1: Coup d'etat: 29.676%
Patch 2: Sadogashima: 42.520%
Patch 3: Yokohama+Kashgar: 27.805%

Given how closely the last two battles tie into each other, this ought to go over pretty well.

I think this will go very well, even though I'm gonna wait for the full patch.

Me too.  Too bad I won't be able to fix typos before the final release lol.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Ixrec on September 01, 2010, 08:35:08 pm
Regarding MuvLuv Alternative partial patch plans.

Today I ran through all the scripts, organized them, found where each proposed "arc" ended and added up all the sizes.

My original plan was to divide it up by the four huge setpiece battles that take place: Coup d'etat, Sadogashima, Yokohama and Kashgar.

Coup d'etat: 29.676%
Sadogashima: 42.520%
Yokohama: 15.064%
Kashgar: 12.741%

Turns out Sadogashima was just a bit bigger than I thought.  So, the new plan is to merge the last two arcs together so we have three partial patches overall.

Patch 1: Coup d'etat: 29.676%
Patch 2: Sadogashima: 42.520%
Patch 3: Yokohama+Kashgar: 27.805%

Given how closely the last two battles tie into each other, this ought to go over pretty well.

I think this will go very well, even though I'm gonna wait for the full patch.

Me too.  Too bad I won't be able to fix typos before the final release lol.

There's always another patch after the one that translates the complete game, since we've yet to release anything typo-free.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: KoiNoDensetsu on September 01, 2010, 08:39:15 pm
Regarding MuvLuv Alternative partial patch plans.

Today I ran through all the scripts, organized them, found where each proposed "arc" ended and added up all the sizes.

My original plan was to divide it up by the four huge setpiece battles that take place: Coup d'etat, Sadogashima, Yokohama and Kashgar.

Coup d'etat: 29.676%
Sadogashima: 42.520%
Yokohama: 15.064%
Kashgar: 12.741%

Turns out Sadogashima was just a bit bigger than I thought.  So, the new plan is to merge the last two arcs together so we have three partial patches overall.

Patch 1: Coup d'etat: 29.676%
Patch 2: Sadogashima: 42.520%
Patch 3: Yokohama+Kashgar: 27.805%

Given how closely the last two battles tie into each other, this ought to go over pretty well.

I think this will go very well, even though I'm gonna wait for the full patch.

Me too.  Too bad I won't be able to fix typos before the final release lol.

There's always another patch after the one that translates the complete game, since we've yet to release anything typo-free.

Ah, that's right.  Forgot about that.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: kViN on September 02, 2010, 07:38:07 am
Regarding MuvLuv Alternative partial patch plans.

Today I ran through all the scripts, organized them, found where each proposed "arc" ended and added up all the sizes.

My original plan was to divide it up by the four huge setpiece battles that take place: Coup d'etat, Sadogashima, Yokohama and Kashgar.

Coup d'etat: 29.676%
Sadogashima: 42.520%
Yokohama: 15.064%
Kashgar: 12.741%

Turns out Sadogashima was just a bit bigger than I thought.  So, the new plan is to merge the last two arcs together so we have three partial patches overall.

Patch 1: Coup d'etat: 29.676%
Patch 2: Sadogashima: 42.520%
Patch 3: Yokohama+Kashgar: 27.805%

Given how closely the last two battles tie into each other, this ought to go over pretty well.

I think this will go very well, even though I'm gonna wait for the full patch.

Me too.  Too bad I won't be able to fix typos before the final release lol.

Oh no, we're totally doomed without you!
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: KoiNoDensetsu on September 02, 2010, 04:48:01 pm
Regarding MuvLuv Alternative partial patch plans.

Today I ran through all the scripts, organized them, found where each proposed "arc" ended and added up all the sizes.

My original plan was to divide it up by the four huge setpiece battles that take place: Coup d'etat, Sadogashima, Yokohama and Kashgar.

Coup d'etat: 29.676%
Sadogashima: 42.520%
Yokohama: 15.064%
Kashgar: 12.741%

Turns out Sadogashima was just a bit bigger than I thought.  So, the new plan is to merge the last two arcs together so we have three partial patches overall.

Patch 1: Coup d'etat: 29.676%
Patch 2: Sadogashima: 42.520%
Patch 3: Yokohama+Kashgar: 27.805%

Given how closely the last two battles tie into each other, this ought to go over pretty well.

I think this will go very well, even though I'm gonna wait for the full patch.

Me too.  Too bad I won't be able to fix typos before the final release lol.

Oh no, we're totally doomed without you!

Don't worry; I will be able to fix stuff you miss before the final patch is released. ^_^ wwwww
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Nightdragon on September 03, 2010, 12:33:31 am
ok i have to ask not sure if anyone else asked or found this but is it just me or is there like an instrumental of "livin lida loca" run in the BGM cause every time it happens it seems to fit the situation prefectly..
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Ixrec on September 03, 2010, 12:41:26 am
ok i have to ask not sure if anyone else asked or found this but is it just me or is there like an instrumental of "livin lida loca" run in the BGM cause every time it happens it seems to fit the situation prefectly..

I vaguely remember someone saying this before.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: treb on September 03, 2010, 05:05:03 am
ok i have to ask not sure if anyone else asked or found this but is it just me or is there like an instrumental of "livin lida loca" run in the BGM cause every time it happens it seems to fit the situation prefectly..

The following was taken from a Japanese forum:

Muv Luv Disc5 analysis
Disc5 track 08
     Ricky Martin "Livin 'La Vida Loca"
Disc5 tracks 09
     Niko "NIGHT OF FIRE"
Disc5 track 12
     Michiya Haruhata "J'S THEME"
Disc5 track 17
     NHK Special The 20th Century, Takashi Kako, "Is Paris Burning?"
Disc5 track 22
     Starship Troopers "FED NET MARCH"
Disc5 track 24
     Neon Genesis Evangelion, Shiro Sagisu "EVA-00"
Disc5 track 25
     Aim for the Top (Gunbuster), Kohei Tanaka  "Combination Practice M-11" + Mechwarrior4, Duane Decker "Aftermath"
Disc5 track 29
     Aim for the Top (Gunbuster), Kohei Tanaka "Crisis M-17"
Disc5 track 30
     The Big O, Toshihiko Sahashi "STAND A CHANCE" (in a different arrangement "THE HOLY")
Disc5 track 31
     Aim for the Top (Gunbuster), Kohei Tanaka "GunBuster M-20"
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Zetsu on September 03, 2010, 10:47:08 am
Maybe someone asked but what about Altered Fable? Do you plan translate it or not?
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: izmosmolnar on September 03, 2010, 11:38:39 am
I've herd Sheeta will translate it after she finished Air.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Ixrec on September 03, 2010, 11:44:23 am
Maybe someone asked but what about Altered Fable? Do you plan translate it or not?

Once again, I am not doing any MuvLuv games after Alternative.  None of them are worth it anyway.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Kiru on September 03, 2010, 12:22:11 pm
Maybe someone asked but what about Altered Fable? Do you plan translate it or not?

Once again, I am not doing any MuvLuv games after Alternative.  None of them are worth it anyway.

B-But the h-scene of the only muv-luv girl with something you could call a "good" design.. :D

No really, I'm still reading Extra, but I doubt it more and more that ANY Muv-luv game has any worth to be translated. :|
Honestly, I never thought I would struggle so much...
And who called this a "moege" again? Where's the moe? The design with "lethal" hairstyles can't be moe and the VAs seem not to care about something like that as well. (e.g. Tama is much more the annoying type, though I personally don't mind her... especially compared to those three maids.)

9 ingame-days to go for the first real ending... I'm getting closer.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Moogy on September 03, 2010, 12:33:46 pm
honestly at this point i think extra may have been intentionally bad
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: fujifruit on September 04, 2010, 01:17:22 am
Maybe someone asked but what about Altered Fable? Do you plan translate it or not?

Once again, I am not doing any MuvLuv games after Alternative.  None of them are worth it anyway.

B-But the h-scene of the only muv-luv girl with something you could call a "good" design.. :D

No really, I'm still reading Extra, but I doubt it more and more that ANY Muv-luv game has any worth to be translated. :|
Honestly, I never thought I would struggle so much...
And who called this a "moege" again? Where's the moe? The design with "lethal" hairstyles can't be moe and the VAs seem not to care about something like that as well. (e.g. Tama is much more the annoying type, though I personally don't mind her... especially compared to those three maids.)

9 ingame-days to go for the first real ending... I'm getting closer.
The green haired maid?
Anyone notice how the new muv luv game backgrounds are blurry and shit?
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: DxS on September 04, 2010, 08:05:56 am
Maybe someone asked but what about Altered Fable? Do you plan translate it or not?

Once again, I am not doing any MuvLuv games after Alternative.  None of them are worth it anyway.

B-But the h-scene of the only muv-luv girl with something you could call a "good" design.. :D

No really, I'm still reading Extra, but I doubt it more and more that ANY Muv-luv game has any worth to be translated. :|
Honestly, I never thought I would struggle so much...
And who called this a "moege" again? Where's the moe? The design with "lethal" hairstyles can't be moe and the VAs seem not to care about something like that as well. (e.g. Tama is much more the annoying type, though I personally don't mind her... especially compared to those three maids.)

9 ingame-days to go for the first real ending... I'm getting closer.

Who you talking about?
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: KoiNoDensetsu on September 04, 2010, 03:52:33 pm
Maybe someone asked but what about Altered Fable? Do you plan translate it or not?

Once again, I am not doing any MuvLuv games after Alternative.  None of them are worth it anyway.

B-But the h-scene of the only muv-luv girl with something you could call a "good" design.. :D

No really, I'm still reading Extra, but I doubt it more and more that ANY Muv-luv game has any worth to be translated. :|
Honestly, I never thought I would struggle so much...
And who called this a "moege" again? Where's the moe? The design with "lethal" hairstyles can't be moe and the VAs seem not to care about something like that as well. (e.g. Tama is much more the annoying type, though I personally don't mind her... especially compared to those three maids.)

9 ingame-days to go for the first real ending... I'm getting closer.

Who you talking about?

Tabun Kasumi.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: fujifruit on September 04, 2010, 04:55:27 pm
Maybe someone asked but what about Altered Fable? Do you plan translate it or not?

Once again, I am not doing any MuvLuv games after Alternative.  None of them are worth it anyway.

B-But the h-scene of the only muv-luv girl with something you could call a "good" design.. :D

No really, I'm still reading Extra, but I doubt it more and more that ANY Muv-luv game has any worth to be translated. :|
Honestly, I never thought I would struggle so much...
And who called this a "moege" again? Where's the moe? The design with "lethal" hairstyles can't be moe and the VAs seem not to care about something like that as well. (e.g. Tama is much more the annoying type, though I personally don't mind her... especially compared to those three maids.)

9 ingame-days to go for the first real ending... I'm getting closer.

Who you talking about?

Tabun Kasumi.
I don't recall seeing her what does she look like?
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Ixrec on September 04, 2010, 06:46:05 pm
Maybe someone asked but what about Altered Fable? Do you plan translate it or not?

Once again, I am not doing any MuvLuv games after Alternative.  None of them are worth it anyway.

B-But the h-scene of the only muv-luv girl with something you could call a "good" design.. :D

No really, I'm still reading Extra, but I doubt it more and more that ANY Muv-luv game has any worth to be translated. :|
Honestly, I never thought I would struggle so much...
And who called this a "moege" again? Where's the moe? The design with "lethal" hairstyles can't be moe and the VAs seem not to care about something like that as well. (e.g. Tama is much more the annoying type, though I personally don't mind her... especially compared to those three maids.)

9 ingame-days to go for the first real ending... I'm getting closer.

Who you talking about?

Tabun Kasumi.
I don't recall seeing her what does she look like?

She's in Unlimited.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: DxS on September 04, 2010, 08:28:19 pm
Maybe someone asked but what about Altered Fable? Do you plan translate it or not?

Once again, I am not doing any MuvLuv games after Alternative.  None of them are worth it anyway.

B-But the h-scene of the only muv-luv girl with something you could call a "good" design.. :D

No really, I'm still reading Extra, but I doubt it more and more that ANY Muv-luv game has any worth to be translated. :|
Honestly, I never thought I would struggle so much...
And who called this a "moege" again? Where's the moe? The design with "lethal" hairstyles can't be moe and the VAs seem not to care about something like that as well. (e.g. Tama is much more the annoying type, though I personally don't mind her... especially compared to those three maids.)

9 ingame-days to go for the first real ending... I'm getting closer.

Who you talking about?

Tabun Kasumi.
I don't recall seeing her what does she look like?

She's in Unlimited.

The only one i recall with  similar name is the Kasumi with the bunny ears.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Ixrec on September 04, 2010, 09:04:25 pm
Maybe someone asked but what about Altered Fable? Do you plan translate it or not?

Once again, I am not doing any MuvLuv games after Alternative.  None of them are worth it anyway.

B-But the h-scene of the only muv-luv girl with something you could call a "good" design.. :D

No really, I'm still reading Extra, but I doubt it more and more that ANY Muv-luv game has any worth to be translated. :|
Honestly, I never thought I would struggle so much...
And who called this a "moege" again? Where's the moe? The design with "lethal" hairstyles can't be moe and the VAs seem not to care about something like that as well. (e.g. Tama is much more the annoying type, though I personally don't mind her... especially compared to those three maids.)

9 ingame-days to go for the first real ending... I'm getting closer.

Who you talking about?

Tabun Kasumi.
I don't recall seeing her what does she look like?

She's in Unlimited.

The only one i recall with  similar name is the Kasumi with the bunny ears.

...tabun isn't a name, it's the Japanese word for "probably."
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: fujifruit on September 06, 2010, 03:37:20 am
There is a turn-based tactical combat game based on Muv Luv Alternative BETA encounters on the ALTERED FABLE disk's TOTAL ECLPISE section, isn't there?  I've heard it's pretty difficult.

Yes.  There's also a similarly infamously unwinnable card game in MuvLuv Supplement.

I can confirm the "unwinnable" part... >.>
Confirm it. : D
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: DxS on September 06, 2010, 09:26:24 am
Maybe someone asked but what about Altered Fable? Do you plan translate it or not?

Once again, I am not doing any MuvLuv games after Alternative.  None of them are worth it anyway.

B-But the h-scene of the only muv-luv girl with something you could call a "good" design.. :D

No really, I'm still reading Extra, but I doubt it more and more that ANY Muv-luv game has any worth to be translated. :|
Honestly, I never thought I would struggle so much...
And who called this a "moege" again? Where's the moe? The design with "lethal" hairstyles can't be moe and the VAs seem not to care about something like that as well. (e.g. Tama is much more the annoying type, though I personally don't mind her... especially compared to those three maids.)

9 ingame-days to go for the first real ending... I'm getting closer.

Who you talking about?

Tabun Kasumi.
I don't recall seeing her what does she look like?

She's in Unlimited.

The only one i recall with  similar name is the Kasumi with the bunny ears.

...tabun isn't a name, it's the Japanese word for "probably."

lol well i completely failed there.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Ixrec on September 07, 2010, 09:29:04 pm
I will be moving into my apartment tomorrow.  First, that means I might not be here for a couple days, and I might not be as active as usual for a couple weeks.  Second, that means it'll only be another 1-2 weeks before I start working on MLA.

See you all soon.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: fujifruit on September 07, 2010, 11:26:32 pm
I will be moving into my apartment tomorrow.  First, that means I might not be here for a couple days, and I might not be as active as usual for a couple weeks.  Second, that means it'll only be another 1-2 weeks before I start working on MLA.

See you all soon.
Now I need to finish the painful  thing called Unlimited x.x
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Kiru on September 08, 2010, 03:15:32 am
Now I need to finish the painful  thing called Unlimited x.x

If it's worse than Extra... I probably jump right into Alternative later on and happily rant away about how shitty muv-luv is. :D

I really hope Unlimited is only boring and not "head->desk"-worthy every few minutes. :|
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: fujifruit on September 08, 2010, 05:04:22 am
Now I need to finish the painful  thing called Unlimited x.x

If it's worse than Extra... I probably jump right into Alternative later on and happily rant away about how shitty muv-luv is. :D

I really hope Unlimited is only boring and not "head->desk"-worthy every few minutes. :|
Lol I've heard most the routes are the same or some shit
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Kiru on September 08, 2010, 05:23:19 am
Now I need to finish the painful  thing called Unlimited x.x

If it's worse than Extra... I probably jump right into Alternative later on and happily rant away about how shitty muv-luv is. :D

I really hope Unlimited is only boring and not "head->desk"-worthy every few minutes. :|
Lol I've heard most the routes are the same or some shit

That's imo not really a problem. There's no need to play them all... at least if you don't want all the h-scenes or something. (and there's skip...)
Linear stuff isn't bad or something.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Echoman on September 08, 2010, 07:29:46 am
Well, the worst part about Unlimited is that it ends in a completely disappointing manner right when it should have started to get interesting, and absolutely nothing was resolved or explained.  But if you just kind of consider it as a prequel or intro to Alternative, it's not so bad.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: KoiNoDensetsu on September 08, 2010, 02:35:45 pm
There is a turn-based tactical combat game based on Muv Luv Alternative BETA encounters on the ALTERED FABLE disk's TOTAL ECLPISE section, isn't there?  I've heard it's pretty difficult.

Yes.  There's also a similarly infamously unwinnable card game in MuvLuv Supplement.

I can confirm the "unwinnable" part... >.>
Confirm it. : D

-presses magical 'confirm' button-
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: fujifruit on September 08, 2010, 02:40:33 pm
There is a turn-based tactical combat game based on Muv Luv Alternative BETA encounters on the ALTERED FABLE disk's TOTAL ECLPISE section, isn't there?  I've heard it's pretty difficult.

Yes.  There's also a similarly infamously unwinnable card game in MuvLuv Supplement.

I can confirm the "unwinnable" part... >.>
Confirm it. : D

-presses magical 'confirm' button-
-Needs magical video-
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: KoiNoDensetsu on September 08, 2010, 02:53:58 pm
There is a turn-based tactical combat game based on Muv Luv Alternative BETA encounters on the ALTERED FABLE disk's TOTAL ECLPISE section, isn't there?  I've heard it's pretty difficult.

Yes.  There's also a similarly infamously unwinnable card game in MuvLuv Supplement.

I can confirm the "unwinnable" part... >.>
Confirm it. : D

-presses magical 'confirm' button-
-Needs magical video-

http://objection.mrdictionary.net/go.php?n=4286958
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: fujifruit on September 08, 2010, 02:56:26 pm
There is a turn-based tactical combat game based on Muv Luv Alternative BETA encounters on the ALTERED FABLE disk's TOTAL ECLPISE section, isn't there?  I've heard it's pretty difficult.

Yes.  There's also a similarly infamously unwinnable card game in MuvLuv Supplement.

I can confirm the "unwinnable" part... >.>
Confirm it. : D

-presses magical 'confirm' button-
-Needs magical video-

http://objection.mrdictionary.net/go.php?n=4286958
I see..well I can't deny "OBJECTION"
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: KoiNoDensetsu on September 08, 2010, 02:58:25 pm
There is a turn-based tactical combat game based on Muv Luv Alternative BETA encounters on the ALTERED FABLE disk's TOTAL ECLPISE section, isn't there?  I've heard it's pretty difficult.

Yes.  There's also a similarly infamously unwinnable card game in MuvLuv Supplement.

I can confirm the "unwinnable" part... >.>
Confirm it. : D

-presses magical 'confirm' button-
-Needs magical video-

http://objection.mrdictionary.net/go.php?n=4286958
I see..well I can't deny "OBJECTION"

Coffee is the only way to deter "OBJECTION".  It's a scientific fact.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: fujifruit on September 08, 2010, 03:03:40 pm
There is a turn-based tactical combat game based on Muv Luv Alternative BETA encounters on the ALTERED FABLE disk's TOTAL ECLPISE section, isn't there?  I've heard it's pretty difficult.

Yes.  There's also a similarly infamously unwinnable card game in MuvLuv Supplement.

I can confirm the "unwinnable" part... >.>
Confirm it. : D

-presses magical 'confirm' button-
-Needs magical video-

http://objection.mrdictionary.net/go.php?n=4286958
I see..well I can't deny "OBJECTION"

Coffee is the only way to deter "OBJECTION".  It's a scientific fact.
-Has no coffee-
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Catastrophe on September 08, 2010, 06:32:36 pm
There is a turn-based tactical combat game based on Muv Luv Alternative BETA encounters on the ALTERED FABLE disk's TOTAL ECLPISE section, isn't there?  I've heard it's pretty difficult.

Yes.  There's also a similarly infamously unwinnable card game in MuvLuv Supplement.

I can confirm the "unwinnable" part... >.>
Confirm it. : D

-presses magical 'confirm' button-
-Needs magical video-

http://objection.mrdictionary.net/go.php?n=4286958
I see..well I can't deny "OBJECTION"

Coffee in the face is the only way to deter "OBJECTION".  It's a scientific fact.
fix'd
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: KoiNoDensetsu on September 08, 2010, 08:39:30 pm
There is a turn-based tactical combat game based on Muv Luv Alternative BETA encounters on the ALTERED FABLE disk's TOTAL ECLPISE section, isn't there?  I've heard it's pretty difficult.

Yes.  There's also a similarly infamously unwinnable card game in MuvLuv Supplement.

I can confirm the "unwinnable" part... >.>
Confirm it. : D

-presses magical 'confirm' button-
-Needs magical video-

http://objection.mrdictionary.net/go.php?n=4286958
I see..well I can't deny "OBJECTION"

Coffee in the face, whips, and tazers are the only way to deter "OBJECTION"... until a new PW game comes out!  It's a scientific fact.
fix'd

Fix'd.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: DxS on September 09, 2010, 02:39:30 pm
So.....about that there Muv-luv eh...
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: KoiNoDensetsu on September 10, 2010, 08:45:04 pm
So.....about that there Muv-luv eh...

What is Muv-Luv?  This thread is about coffee.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Echoman on September 10, 2010, 10:01:25 pm
Coffee is shit tier.  Real men drink tea.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Kyon_Geass on September 10, 2010, 10:40:47 pm
Coffee is shit tier.  Real men drink tea.
you forgot the image:
(http://mononoaware.concretebadger.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/real-men-drink-tea.jpg)
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: OnFireX on September 11, 2010, 11:31:45 am
Coffee is shit tier.  Real men drink tea.
you forgot the image:
(http://mononoaware.concretebadger.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/real-men-drink-tea.jpg)

Archah is MANLY
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: KoiNoDensetsu on September 11, 2010, 01:06:15 pm
Coffee is shit tier.  Real men drink tea.
you forgot the image:
(http://mononoaware.concretebadger.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/real-men-drink-tea.jpg)

Correction: Only prissy Europeans drink tea.  While raising their pinky and eating crumpets.  Crumpets wrapped in doileys.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Sirf*palot on September 11, 2010, 02:18:03 pm
Coffee is shit tier.  Real men drink tea.
you forgot the image:
(http://mononoaware.concretebadger.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/real-men-drink-tea.jpg)


OBJECTION!!! They drink Chivas 18, damn those US OPEN commercials are getting to my head. :P lol jk.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Echoman on September 11, 2010, 11:29:56 pm
I don't think I've ever eaten a crumpet in my life...  I'm not even entirely sure what they are, besides a very vague idea.

Well, I've wikipedia'd it, and it looks somewhat like an english muffin.  I've eaten those quite a few times, I guess.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: AcroRay on September 12, 2010, 09:40:24 am
So, has anyone who's played CHRONICLES 1 or CODE: REBELLION  willing or able to post detailed synopsis of them?

I'm really curious about CODE: REBELLION.  I see it on auction quite regularly at YahooJP, but don't see much discussion of it.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Moogy on September 12, 2010, 01:34:52 pm
I dunno what Code Rebellion is but I played The Day After Episode 0, which is basically the only important part of Chronicles 01. Here's a cool summary:

Takes place about half a year after the end of Unlimited
Bunch of dudes are stranded after their ship runs ashore due to ~mysterious natural phenomenon~
Satellite uplinks don't work for some reason
One day a patrol team finds a US marine, the survivor of another shipwreck, and takes her in
A shitload of character introductions and then arguing about what they should do and how! This part can't really be summarized and sounds pretty boring summed up like this, but I quite liked the writing here. Classic Muv-Luv stuff
Eventually they decide to hold a funeral ceremony honoring the soldiers who have perished before them and you get a scene of this. They also decide to try to push further with their search expeditions, hoping to reach {I totally forgot the region where this took place, someone can feel free to refresh my memory}
Unfortunately, they are then attacked by BETA! This is surprising because they were thought to have been wiped out by Alternative 5.
Also, during this battle, they mysteriously manage to reestablish a satellite uplink.
Also I forgot to mention, but the marines onboard have some secret objective they're supposed to be fulfilling. The battle isn't going well, so they entrust the girl they picked up earlier with the mission and send her off. Then they all charge valiantly to their DOOMS!!! (Probably just trolling, but who knows.)
The last scene is Marimo picking her up after she escapes and spewing some super duper Alternative fanservice lines

To be continued Winter 2010

Okay, there's my shitty summary with a bunch of details I've already forgotten due to my terrible memory left out.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: AcroRay on September 12, 2010, 06:32:57 pm
A YahooJP auction for the Code Rebellion CD/DVD thing can be seen here:
http://page6.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/f85552266
I think possibly it's an audio-drama of Chicken Divers?

Thanks for the synopsis. Sounds pretty cool, thanks! 

I understand from what of read from other Alternative players that [spoiler] Alternative 5 left the main hive destroyed, but legions of other hives' BETAS to mop-up, thus setting the stage for more Alternative adventures[\spoiler].
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Moogy on September 12, 2010, 06:42:01 pm
Alternative 5 is the plan adopted at the end of Unlimited, Alternative 4 is Yuuko's idea and what they end up going through with in Alternative
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: AcroRay on September 12, 2010, 07:55:46 pm
Ahhhh....   Foolish me.  I confused Unlimited and Alternative again.  "Day After" is an Unlimited side-story...
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: KoiNoDensetsu on September 12, 2010, 08:16:31 pm
Ahhhh....   Foolish me.  I confused Unlimited and Alternative again.  "Day After" is an Unlimited side-story...

Same thing happened to me.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Ixrec on September 12, 2010, 08:18:57 pm
Ahhhh....   Foolish me.  I confused Unlimited and Alternative again.  "Day After" is an Unlimited side-story...

Same thing happened to me.

The fact that they called it "MuvLuv Alternative Chronicles" for some reason probably has something to do with the confusion.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: DxS on September 13, 2010, 07:32:07 pm
That actually makes sense, i guess i should just avoid even thinking about the side stories.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Ixrec on September 15, 2010, 07:44:41 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/HjGJ1.png)

And so it begins.

(No that's not a spoiler.)
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: fujifruit on September 15, 2010, 08:39:30 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/HjGJ1.png)

And so it begins.

(No that's not a spoiler.)
Why did I laugh?
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: KoiNoDensetsu on September 15, 2010, 08:55:44 pm
I better get back to Supplement...
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: DxS on September 16, 2010, 08:58:24 am
I laughed too...its jsut something about that picture on its own that makes me think of old corny zombie movie.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Moogy on September 16, 2010, 10:08:37 am
Is there any particular reason you're keeping the Japanese-style ellipses? They look pretty bad without at least a space after them.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Ixrec on September 16, 2010, 10:12:47 am
Is there any particular reason you're keeping the Japanese-style ellipses? They look pretty bad without at least a space after them.

...those aren't Japanese ellipses.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Moogy on September 16, 2010, 11:52:02 am
Well, six periods in a row with no space at the end doesn't equal a set of English ellipses either.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Ixrec on September 16, 2010, 12:03:14 pm
Well, six periods in a row with no space at the end doesn't equal a set of English ellipses either.

I don't like spaces after my ellipses.  That is all.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Orophin on September 16, 2010, 02:24:19 pm
The aspect ratio of the screenshot you posted practically gives the answer away, but I'll ask nevertheless. You're translating the all-ages version of Alternative, right?
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: fujifruit on September 16, 2010, 02:25:19 pm
The aspect ratio of the screenshot you posted practically gives the answer away, but I'll ask nevertheless. You're translating the all-ages version of Alternative, right?
We all play for the sex.
AmIRight?
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Moogy on September 16, 2010, 02:43:10 pm
The aspect ratio of the screenshot you posted practically gives the answer away, but I'll ask nevertheless. You're translating the all-ages version of Alternative, right?
Both the 18+ and all-ages versions of Alternative are 16:9. Amaterasu is translating the original 18+ version.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Ixrec on September 16, 2010, 03:02:46 pm
The aspect ratio of the screenshot you posted practically gives the answer away, but I'll ask nevertheless. You're translating the all-ages version of Alternative, right?
Both the 18+ and all-ages versions of Alternative are 16:9. Amaterasu is translating the original 18+ version.

Thanks for doing that for us.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Moogy on September 16, 2010, 03:14:34 pm
No problem. I enjoy correcting people because I'm a huge fag.

And I find the misconception that Alternative 18+ is 4:3 to be strange.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Ixrec on September 16, 2010, 03:16:20 pm
Okay, I have to agree, where the hell did that one come from.

We really do need to put a super thorough list of differences between all the versions in our readme.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Temuthril on September 16, 2010, 03:21:38 pm
And I find the misconception that Alternative 18+ is 4:3 to be strange.
Could originate fron VNDB.

http://vndb.org/r2 (http://vndb.org/r2)
http://vndb.org/r6 (http://vndb.org/r6)
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Orophin on September 16, 2010, 03:28:34 pm
Both the 18+ and all-ages versions of Alternative are 16:9. Amaterasu is translating the original 18+ version.
I see, thanks for clearing that up. What I've read on vndb got me confused about the aspect ratio so I thought only the all-ages version supported widescreen.

We all play for the sex.
AmIRight?
Nah, I could care less about the H-scenes. Not to mention that the ones found in Extra and Unlimited were pretty bad.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Moogy on September 16, 2010, 04:44:34 pm
ok i fixed it on vndb, may the world never fall into the darkness of ignorance again
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Echoman on September 16, 2010, 10:18:48 pm
Thank god for Moogy, always looking out for us.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: DarkestPhoenix on September 17, 2010, 05:11:12 pm
We all play for the sex.
AmIRight?
Nah, I could care less about the H-scenes. Not to mention that the ones found in Extra and Unlimited were pretty bad.
This. That and the fact that I found Extra and Unlimited to be pretty bad in their own right, I played through them just because Ixrec said I needed to for his 9/10 Alternative to make sense. >.>;

Well, six periods in a row with no space at the end doesn't equal a set of English ellipses either.

I don't like spaces after my ellipses.  That is all.
May I be so bold as to ask why?

~DarkestPhoenix
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Ixrec on September 17, 2010, 05:21:52 pm
We all play for the sex.
AmIRight?
Nah, I could care less about the H-scenes. Not to mention that the ones found in Extra and Unlimited were pretty bad.
This. That and the fact that I found Extra and Unlimited to be pretty bad in their own right, I played through them just because Ixrec said I needed to for his 9/10 Alternative to make sense. >.>;

You'll be very glad you did.

Quote
Well, six periods in a row with no space at the end doesn't equal a set of English ellipses either.

I don't like spaces after my ellipses.  That is all.
May I be so bold as to ask why?

~DarkestPhoenix

I like to use a space after an ellipse only when that which follows the space is a brand new sentence, not merely a continuation of the old one.

If you wanted an actual reason why my style is better than Moogy's style, there is none.  Punctuation style is mostly subjective, and we've been using this one since before Cross Channel so it's a little too late to debate it.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: KoiNoDensetsu on September 17, 2010, 07:53:05 pm
Everyone, don't worry about MLA's quality.  It can't be that bad.  It has more KGNE characters than MLE and MLU combined!
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: izmosmolnar on September 18, 2010, 04:46:48 am
I hope they all die in the first chapter.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: KoiNoDensetsu on September 18, 2010, 10:42:09 am
I hope they all die in the first chapter.

OMG, that would be so emotional!  But they should spread the death scenes out to keep the utsuge feel...
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: fujifruit on September 18, 2010, 07:18:58 pm
(http://i54.tinypic.com/2k08hu.jpg)

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Btw the girls mecha outfits make them look like they have a beard.

wwwwww
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Ixrec on September 19, 2010, 02:35:31 pm
Yay! That plot summary I'd written (and taken dozens of screenshots for) for MuvLuv finally got converted to html and uploaded.

http://amaterasu.is.moelicious.be/mlplot/

Should be entertaining whether or not you've played the game already, and hopefully it'll also convince more people to read it before Alternative.

And yeah we'll be including this in the MLA patches.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Kiru on September 19, 2010, 02:56:15 pm
Yay! That plot summary I'd written (and taken dozens of screenshots for) for MuvLuv finally got converted to html and uploaded.

http://amaterasu.is.moelicious.be/mlplot/

Should be entertaining whether or not you've played the game already, and hopefully it'll also convince more people to read it before Alternative.

And yeah we'll be including this in the MLA patches.

So... should I read Ayamines route in Extra or better not... she's the best character of Extra after all. -_-
It simply can't get any worse, but if it's better not playing her route for MLA...
It's like MLA needs the shit to be known, but the (maybe) somewhat better stuff to be unknown.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Ixrec on September 19, 2010, 02:58:32 pm
Yay! That plot summary I'd written (and taken dozens of screenshots for) for MuvLuv finally got converted to html and uploaded.

http://amaterasu.is.moelicious.be/mlplot/

Should be entertaining whether or not you've played the game already, and hopefully it'll also convince more people to read it before Alternative.

And yeah we'll be including this in the MLA patches.

So... should I read Ayamines route in Extra or better not... she's the best character of Extra after all. -_-
It simply can't get any worse, but if it's better not playing her route for MLA...
It's like MLA needs the shit to be known, but the (maybe) somewhat better stuff to be unknown to the player.


Just don't touch the MLE side routes at all, lol.  Those are only translated so you don't have to take my word for it that they are total shit.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: KoiNoDensetsu on September 19, 2010, 03:06:51 pm
Quote
She also plays lacrosse. Many people hate her for having glasses

Lolwut?  Anyone that hates her just because of her glasses is dumb.  They should hate her because she's a bitch.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Ixrec on September 19, 2010, 03:15:28 pm
Quote
She also plays lacrosse. Many people hate her for having glasses

Lolwut?  Anyone that hates her just because of her glasses is dumb.  They should hate her because she's a bitch.

I was referring to how many people seem to hate every meganekko in every game they play.  Whether it's a cause or a correlation is up to you.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: KoiNoDensetsu on September 19, 2010, 03:20:06 pm
Quote
She also plays lacrosse. Many people hate her for having glasses

Lolwut?  Anyone that hates her just because of her glasses is dumb.  They should hate her because she's a bitch.

I was referring to how many people seem to hate every meganekko in every game they play.  Whether it's a cause or a correlation is up to you.

I haven't seen any such correlation. (There are a lot of people with megane fetishes lol)  All of the people that hate her seem to hate her because of how annoying and unmoe she is.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Belgaesh on September 19, 2010, 03:23:44 pm
Yay! That plot summary I'd written (and taken dozens of screenshots for) for MuvLuv finally got converted to html and uploaded.

http://amaterasu.is.moelicious.be/mlplot/

Should be entertaining whether or not you've played the game already, and hopefully it'll also convince more people to read it before Alternative.

And yeah we'll be including this in the MLA patches.

Ixrec is such a good guy, we don't deserve this much.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: KoiNoDensetsu on September 19, 2010, 03:25:22 pm
Yay! That plot summary I'd written (and taken dozens of screenshots for) for MuvLuv finally got converted to html and uploaded.

http://amaterasu.is.moelicious.be/mlplot/

Should be entertaining whether or not you've played the game already, and hopefully it'll also convince more people to read it before Alternative.

And yeah we'll be including this in the MLA patches.

Ixrec is such a good guy, we don't deserve this much.

Oh yes, I forgot to say thanks. ^.^  This is already more effort than official translations would get.  srsly, go official if possible, Ixrec.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Ixrec on September 19, 2010, 03:38:16 pm
Yay! That plot summary I'd written (and taken dozens of screenshots for) for MuvLuv finally got converted to html and uploaded.

http://amaterasu.is.moelicious.be/mlplot/

Should be entertaining whether or not you've played the game already, and hopefully it'll also convince more people to read it before Alternative.

And yeah we'll be including this in the MLA patches.

Ixrec is such a good guy, we don't deserve this much.

Oh yes, I forgot to say thanks. ^.^  This is already more effort than official translations would get.  srsly, go official if possible, Ixrec.

Still waiting for age or Liarsoft to send me an email...

(though pretty much any company with great games out there would be awesome)
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: DxS on September 19, 2010, 03:42:16 pm
I read all the side routes in both and i would definitely agree that they're mediocre. Though i'm wondering what point from Ayamine's route in Extra Ixrec said is of importance in Alternative.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Ixrec on September 19, 2010, 03:46:47 pm
I read all the side routes in both and i would definitely agree that they're mediocre. Though i'm wondering what point from Ayamine's route in Extra Ixrec said is of importance in Alternative.

[spoiler]Sagiri is a character in Alternative, and his relationship with Ayamine is a more interesting revelation if you haven't already seen it in MLE.[/spoiler]
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: DxS on September 19, 2010, 03:52:28 pm
I read all the side routes in both and i would definitely agree that they're mediocre. Though i'm wondering what point from Ayamine's route in Extra Ixrec said is of importance in Alternative.

[spoiler]Sagiri is a character in Alternative, and his relationship with Ayamine is a more interesting revelation if you haven't already seen it in MLE.[/spoiler]

Dam now i'm wishing i didn't read the other routes, they were mostly a waste of time anyways.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Ixrec on September 19, 2010, 04:06:56 pm
I read all the side routes in both and i would definitely agree that they're mediocre. Though i'm wondering what point from Ayamine's route in Extra Ixrec said is of importance in Alternative.

[spoiler]Sagiri is a character in Alternative, and his relationship with Ayamine is a more interesting revelation if you haven't already seen it in MLE.[/spoiler]

Dam now i'm wishing i didn't read the other routes, they were mostly a waste of time anyways.

Told you~
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: KoiNoDensetsu on September 19, 2010, 04:49:34 pm
Yay! That plot summary I'd written (and taken dozens of screenshots for) for MuvLuv finally got converted to html and uploaded.

http://amaterasu.is.moelicious.be/mlplot/

Should be entertaining whether or not you've played the game already, and hopefully it'll also convince more people to read it before Alternative.

And yeah we'll be including this in the MLA patches.

Ixrec is such a good guy, we don't deserve this much.

Oh yes, I forgot to say thanks. ^.^  This is already more effort than official translations would get.  srsly, go official if possible, Ixrec.

Still waiting for age or Liarsoft to send me an email...

(though pretty much any company with great games out there would be awesome)

I'm not sure how official translations start, but I don't think JAST and MG started by waiting for companies to email them.  There has to be some more reliable way to get such a business started, I just don't know how.

Though that way is possible, as evidenced by Nitro+ USA. (hopefully, not delayed so much... lol)
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: JONJONAUG on September 19, 2010, 06:47:50 pm
Yay! That plot summary I'd written (and taken dozens of screenshots for) for MuvLuv finally got converted to html and uploaded.

http://amaterasu.is.moelicious.be/mlplot/

Should be entertaining whether or not you've played the game already, and hopefully it'll also convince more people to read it before Alternative.

And yeah we'll be including this in the MLA patches.

EDIT: I AM DUMB!
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Moogy on September 19, 2010, 09:26:44 pm
There has to be some more reliable way to get such a business started, I just don't know how.
...It would be called money.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Belgaesh on September 19, 2010, 10:59:43 pm
There has to be some more reliable way to get such a business started, I just don't know how.
...It would be called money.

In the end it always comes down to money.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: fujifruit on September 19, 2010, 11:18:21 pm
There has to be some more reliable way to get such a business started, I just don't know how.
...It would be called money.

In the end it always comes down to money.
Like espresso machines.

Joking
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Kiru on September 20, 2010, 01:43:04 am
Hm, I really need to read at least one MLE sideroute. I can't believe they are worse than the main-routes simply because they end earlier. MLE should have ended way earlier than it did... imo it just became worse with every hour anyway. But than again I only know Meiyas route... though Sumikas is probably the same, just with a few variations, so it probably won't be something good (7/10) as well.

Oh and about meganekko: I'm one of those who usually dislikes this character-archtype, but that has also something to do with stuff aside of the glasses. Actually, they don't really need glasses... big boobs, clumsy as fuck, that's enough.
As for class-rep, she at least wasn't clumsy and man was I glad about that. It's still a rather bad stereotype, her design is bad as well... but it probably could've been worse. Definitely wouldn't miss her though. :D (Granted, I wouldn't really miss anyone of MLE, so that doesn't mean much)
There are actually a few characters with glasses that I liked... but that's really rare. I personally blame the biggest archtypes associated with meganekko-characters for that. Because they suck. Hard.
It's the same reason why I like "twin-tail"-designs. I like quite a few of those characters.
Or so I want to think. I might just going after the outer appearance as well. :|
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Ixrec on September 20, 2010, 09:09:57 am
Hm, I really need to read at least one MLE sideroute. I can't believe they are worse than the main-routes simply because they end earlier. MLE should have ended way earlier than it did... imo it just became worse with every hour anyway. But than again I only know Meiyas route... though Sumikas is probably the same, just with a few variations, so it probably won't be something good (7/10) as well.

It's not that they're short.  They're just plain bad.

Sumika's and Meiya's "routes" (after the common route finally splits) are far shorter than any of the side routes but they're perfectly fine (heck Sumika's is downright heartwarming).
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Kiru on September 20, 2010, 11:23:52 am
Hm, I really need to read at least one MLE sideroute. I can't believe they are worse than the main-routes simply because they end earlier. MLE should have ended way earlier than it did... imo it just became worse with every hour anyway. But than again I only know Meiyas route... though Sumikas is probably the same, just with a few variations, so it probably won't be something good (7/10) as well.

It's not that they're short.  They're just plain bad.

Sumika's and Meiya's "routes" (after the common route finally splits) are far shorter than any of the side routes but they're perfectly fine (heck Sumika's is downright heartwarming).

I meant the common route, not the character specific scenes/routes. It simply seems to split earlier and doesn't go along the whole "common route" you have in Sumikas or Meiyas routes. (if I look at the walkthrough)
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Ixrec on September 20, 2010, 11:24:59 am
Hm, I really need to read at least one MLE sideroute. I can't believe they are worse than the main-routes simply because they end earlier. MLE should have ended way earlier than it did... imo it just became worse with every hour anyway. But than again I only know Meiyas route... though Sumikas is probably the same, just with a few variations, so it probably won't be something good (7/10) as well.

It's not that they're short.  They're just plain bad.

Sumika's and Meiya's "routes" (after the common route finally splits) are far shorter than any of the side routes but they're perfectly fine (heck Sumika's is downright heartwarming).

I meant the common route, not the character specific scenes/routes. It simply seems to split earlier and doesn't go along the whole "common route" you have in Sumikas or Meiyas routes. (if I look at the walkthrough)

Oh that.  Still has nothing to do with why they suck but okay.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Kiru on September 20, 2010, 12:49:44 pm
Hm, I really need to read at least one MLE sideroute. I can't believe they are worse than the main-routes simply because they end earlier. MLE should have ended way earlier than it did... imo it just became worse with every hour anyway. But than again I only know Meiyas route... though Sumikas is probably the same, just with a few variations, so it probably won't be something good (7/10) as well.

It's not that they're short.  They're just plain bad.

Sumika's and Meiya's "routes" (after the common route finally splits) are far shorter than any of the side routes but they're perfectly fine (heck Sumika's is downright heartwarming).

I meant the common route, not the character specific scenes/routes. It simply seems to split earlier and doesn't go along the whole "common route" you have in Sumikas or Meiyas routes. (if I look at the walkthrough)

Oh that.  Still has nothing to do with why they suck but okay.

Yes of course. But depending on how long they suck, they might just suck a bit less than the main-routes for me. Basically the suck-quantity defeating the suck-quality or something like that...
Suck suck :|
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Sheeta on September 20, 2010, 01:47:06 pm
Quote
they might just suck a bit less than the main-routes for me.

Your taste has to be truly, truly awful for that to occur.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: KoiNoDensetsu on September 21, 2010, 08:17:56 pm
Hm, I really need to read at least one MLE sideroute. I can't believe they are worse than the main-routes simply because they end earlier. MLE should have ended way earlier than it did... imo it just became worse with every hour anyway. But than again I only know Meiyas route... though Sumikas is probably the same, just with a few variations, so it probably won't be something good (7/10) as well.

It's not that they're short.  They're just plain bad.

Sumika's and Meiya's "routes" (after the common route finally splits) are far shorter than any of the side routes but they're perfectly fine (heck Sumika's is downright heartwarming).

I meant the common route, not the character specific scenes/routes. It simply seems to split earlier and doesn't go along the whole "common route" you have in Sumikas or Meiyas routes. (if I look at the walkthrough)

Oh that.  Still has nothing to do with why they suck but okay.

Yes of course. But depending on how long they suck, they might just suck a bit less than the main-routes for me. Basically the suck-quantity defeating the suck-quality or something like that...
Suck suck :|

Unless you are masochistic or as big of a completionist as me, than no way.  Sumika path is actually really good for a comedy/moege, imo.  The other paths are just... bad. (except Miki's "bleh"ish route, but you won't like it if you didn't like MLE already...)
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Yume no Hana on September 21, 2010, 09:18:52 pm
Excuseme, I've translated Asu he no Houkou's lyrics into my native language and I want to make a karaoke subtitle for the OP video.
But I can't find the original clip anywhere, I can't extract it from the game either.
Can I request the clip here?
Thanks in advance.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Ixrec on September 21, 2010, 10:07:00 pm
Excuseme, I've translated Asu he no Houkou's lyrics into my native language and I want to make a karaoke subtitle for the OP video.
But I can't find the original clip anywhere, I can't extract it from the game either.
Can I request the clip here?
Thanks in advance.

We can't extract the actual video, but I'm sure someone on staff would be willing to use some video capture software to get it out of the game for you.  Although you might be able to do that yourself.

Also, can I see them?  Not that I speak whatever language it is, but they probably look cool.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: kViN on September 22, 2010, 10:37:45 am
Excuseme, I've translated Asu he no Houkou's lyrics into my native language and I want to make a karaoke subtitle for the OP video.
But I can't find the original clip anywhere, I can't extract it from the game either.
Can I request the clip here?
Thanks in advance.

Here you have: http://www.mediafire.com/?zlsrnp6ta7pxrpf

Ripped straight from the Altered Fable Movie Selection Disc. It has each and every opening, including those of the all ages versions of the games, so don't hesitate to ask if you need them.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Ixrec on September 22, 2010, 02:58:23 pm
Some funny stuff today happened when testing Nagato's image hook.

(http://imgur.com/s5GRG.jpg)

(http://gyazo.com/df53d388aafd40e3a578d3a9f59c6869.png)

Not that the project was delayed or anything, but we all got a good laugh out of it.

[13:36:40] <Nagato> come on though
[13:36:42] <Nagato> you have to admit
[13:36:52] <Nagato> that's the coolest bug i've ever caused

Oh yeah and this one from the other day in case you missed it in #Ammy:

(http://i.imgur.com/mkUdy.jpg)
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Belgaesh on September 22, 2010, 05:54:01 pm
Quite an interesting sum of images, quite a pity I didn't see them in #ammy.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Catastrophe on September 22, 2010, 07:11:06 pm
Some funny stuff today happened when testing Nagato's image hook.

(http://imgur.com/s5GRG.jpg)

(http://gyazo.com/df53d388aafd40e3a578d3a9f59c6869.png)

Not that the project was delayed or anything, but we all got a good laugh out of it.

[13:36:40] <Nagato> come on though
[13:36:42] <Nagato> you have to admit
[13:36:52] <Nagato> that's the coolest bug i've ever caused

Oh yeah and this one from the other day in case you missed it in #Ammy:

(http://i.imgur.com/mkUdy.jpg)
ZA WARUDO!!!
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: DxS on September 22, 2010, 07:21:55 pm
The first one didn't seem that bad but the second two were pretty hilarious.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Nagato on September 22, 2010, 08:12:54 pm
The second is my favorite.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: shinikage on September 22, 2010, 08:21:04 pm
has anyone seen the muv-luv alternative chronicles avengers memory video?
i just watched it on a japanese website and i was curious about if it is going to be a new game for the series

here is the linkhttp://www.tudou.com/programs/view/PAFkg-zQyK4/ (http://www.tudou.com/programs/view/PAFkg-zQyK4/)
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Ixrec on September 26, 2010, 04:09:39 pm
So, to all those people who want a youtube'd subbed version of the long voice-only segment(s) in MuvLuv Alternative.

Here's a down payment on that promise, in the form of a youtube account with a subbed version of Asu e no Houkou.  Have fun ranting about how bad I am at translating songs (link is to song itself, not channel):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yAXEMvIHtT0
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: kidlat020 on September 27, 2010, 10:46:37 am
So, to all those people who want a youtube'd subbed version of the long voice-only segment(s) in MuvLuv Alternative.

Here's a down payment on that promise, in the form of a youtube account with a subbed version of Asu e no Houkou.  Have fun ranting about how bad I am at translating songs (link is to song itself, not channel):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yAXEMvIHtT0
err...

since you just made it, might as well make subs for the other OP's as well....
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Ixrec on September 27, 2010, 10:55:55 am
So, to all those people who want a youtube'd subbed version of the long voice-only segment(s) in MuvLuv Alternative.

Here's a down payment on that promise, in the form of a youtube account with a subbed version of Asu e no Houkou.  Have fun ranting about how bad I am at translating songs (link is to song itself, not channel):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yAXEMvIHtT0
err...

since you just made it, might as well make subs for the other OP's as well....

There's only one other OP, it's not in the version we're translating, and it's inferior to the one we just did, so meh.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: kidlat020 on September 27, 2010, 10:59:32 am
So, to all those people who want a youtube'd subbed version of the long voice-only segment(s) in MuvLuv Alternative.

Here's a down payment on that promise, in the form of a youtube account with a subbed version of Asu e no Houkou.  Have fun ranting about how bad I am at translating songs (link is to song itself, not channel):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yAXEMvIHtT0
err...

since you just made it, might as well make subs for the other OP's as well....

There's only one other OP, it's not in the version we're translating, and it's inferior to the one we just did, so meh.

I was actually talking about MuvLuv extra OP.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Ixrec on September 27, 2010, 11:18:43 am
So, to all those people who want a youtube'd subbed version of the long voice-only segment(s) in MuvLuv Alternative.

Here's a down payment on that promise, in the form of a youtube account with a subbed version of Asu e no Houkou.  Have fun ranting about how bad I am at translating songs (link is to song itself, not channel):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yAXEMvIHtT0
err...

since you just made it, might as well make subs for the other OP's as well....

There's only one other OP, it's not in the version we're translating, and it's inferior to the one we just did, so meh.

I was actually talking about MuvLuv extra OP.

Ooooh.

Well, MLA gets special treatment.  And MLE/U songs are just as inferior :P
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: kidlat020 on September 27, 2010, 11:31:46 am
after watching the video and after taking some sanity meds, I must say

Ixrec, you're too formal. its seeping through your translations. No. I should rather say it's leaking abnormally. Not saying that's a bad thing in itself though.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Moogy on September 27, 2010, 11:42:00 am
Hey man don't go dissing マヴラブ (the song). It's better as [spoiler]the ED of Alternative,[/spoiler] though.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: kidlat020 on September 27, 2010, 11:57:47 am
Hey man don't go dissing マヴラブ (the song). It's better as [spoiler]the ED of Alternative,[/spoiler] though.

Darn. Maybe I'll take some insanity meds then...
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: JONJONAUG on September 28, 2010, 07:37:52 am
So, to all those people who want a youtube'd subbed version of the long voice-only segment(s) in MuvLuv Alternative.

Here's a down payment on that promise, in the form of a youtube account with a subbed version of Asu e no Houkou.  Have fun ranting about how bad I am at translating songs (link is to song itself, not channel):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yAXEMvIHtT0
err...

since you just made it, might as well make subs for the other OP's as well....

There's only one other OP, it's not in the version we're translating, and it's inferior to the one we just did, so meh.

I was actually talking about MuvLuv extra OP.

You can find that up on YouTube already though.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pqyVNlvaTY - Extra 18+

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_WV2LRurePY - Extra All Ages

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kfzcphtgtAY - Unlimited 18+

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNNOQnXRTjc - Alternative All Ages

Can't find a subbed version of the Unlimited All Ages OP though.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: kidlat020 on September 28, 2010, 09:11:59 am
Oooh....

Then just the youtube links included in the readme is fine then. even if its not yours (well, it wasn't yours in the beginning anyway...).
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Ixrec on September 28, 2010, 09:47:18 am
Added those links to the description of the subbed MLA OP.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: fujifruit on September 28, 2010, 02:04:54 pm
http://www.total-eclipse.jp/te/character02.html

The fu...
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: DxS on September 28, 2010, 05:29:50 pm
I don't get it what exactly is surprising about that profile?
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Echoman on September 28, 2010, 10:46:43 pm
I don't get it what exactly is surprising about that profile?

...Did you even read it?
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Moogy on September 28, 2010, 10:59:13 pm
I don't get it what exactly is surprising about that profile?

...Did you even read it?
What exactly is there to read?

Takamura Yui
Nationality: Japanese
Attachment: Japanese Imperial Guard
Rank: First Lieutenant

A polite, collected woman. She participates in the development of new Senjutsuki alongside Yuuya's group in the Alaskan UN Senjutsuki Evaluation Corps.

Please tell me what exactly is strange about any of this so that I have not wasted my time looking up the batshit insane terms that English uses for military ranks and organizations.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Echoman on September 29, 2010, 12:16:09 am
Well, to be perfectly honest, I was bluffing, as I cannot decipher moonrunes myself.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: kidlat020 on September 29, 2010, 01:28:32 am
...do you even understand? a bad troll is... Oooh.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: DxS on September 29, 2010, 07:14:01 am
Wow and hear i though it may have been something to do with Alternative or another Muv-Luv side-story.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: kViN on September 29, 2010, 08:04:53 am
Wow and hear i though it may have been something to do with Alternative or another Muv-Luv side-story.

Yeah, she's absolutely not one of the main girls from Total Eclipse. There's no way in hell, how could Yui be related to Muvluv at all! What'll be next? She's voiced by Nakahara? She pilots a Takemikazuchi? Yeah right.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: DxS on September 29, 2010, 09:43:02 am
Sorry i spoke wrong i though there was supposed to be something important or shocking in there but there wasn't it was jsut a basic character biography.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: AcroRay on September 29, 2010, 01:44:23 pm
Taking a look at the last chapter from HLJ, I really gotta wonder WTF about Yui.  Someone translate TOTAL ECLIPSE already!   PPllleaaassseee, Eddie!

The only substantial T.E. thing I've been able to find translated was the SCARLET TWINS doujin.  Not complaining at all, but I'd like someone to at least summarize some of the core content, too.   Sigh.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Moogy on September 29, 2010, 02:39:19 pm
Total Eclipse game comes out next year (as part of Chronicles), pray someone translates that. I doubt anyone is going to translate the text version.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: fujifruit on September 29, 2010, 05:48:42 pm
Total Eclipse game comes out next year (as part of Chronicles), pray someone translates that. I doubt anyone is going to translate the text version.
Moogy dono will translate it. After he does SubaHibi.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Moogy on September 29, 2010, 06:00:24 pm
Before anyone else gets any hilarious ideas, I've already said that I'm never going to translate anything Muvluv out of fear of fucking it up.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: AcroRay on September 29, 2010, 07:29:40 pm
out of fear of fucking it up.

Fear is the mind-killer!  Don't let it defeat you!  Ganbare!
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: DxS on September 29, 2010, 11:06:26 pm
out of fear of fucking it up.

Fear is the mind-killer!  Don't let it defeat you!  Ganbare!

I approve of this message.

Also "Don't believe in yourself! Believe in me, who believes in you!"
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Mazyrian on September 30, 2010, 07:59:39 am
No, believe in the yourself that believes in you.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Ice on September 30, 2010, 07:21:46 pm
Wow and hear i though it may have been something to do with Alternative or another Muv-Luv side-story.

Yeah, she's absolutely not one of the main girls from Total Eclipse. There's no way in hell, how could Yui be related to Muvluv at all! What'll be next? She's voiced by Nakahara? She pilots a Takemikazuchi? Yeah right.
No, she pilots the magic schoolbus.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Gore on October 01, 2010, 03:59:24 pm
Hell I JUST found out this Muvluv Chronicles game was released. Sad considering Alternative is my favorite VN.

Definitely reading that very soon. Hope I'm not disappointed.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Ixrec on October 01, 2010, 04:09:35 pm
Hell I JUST found out this Muvluv Chronicles game was released. Sad considering Alternative is my favorite VN.

...lol
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: yeah321 on October 01, 2010, 04:25:39 pm
Hell I JUST found out this Muvluv Chronicles game was released. Sad considering Alternative is my favorite VN.

Definitely reading that very soon. Hope I'm not disappointed.

Try not to get hopes too high, it's not much, emphasize on not much.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Mirrored on October 01, 2010, 07:09:19 pm
So, to all those people who want a youtube'd subbed version of the long voice-only segment(s) in MuvLuv Alternative.

Here's a down payment on that promise, in the form of a youtube account with a subbed version of Asu e no Houkou.  Have fun ranting about how bad I am at translating songs (link is to song itself, not channel):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yAXEMvIHtT0

I think I forgot to say that I loved you.

Hahaha.

Anyways, as for the extra side routes:

[spoiler] I actually found that element interesting. Because while she did not appear to be a virgin in Extra, she did appear to be one in Unlimited. I expected her crisis to be a repeat of what it was in Extra-- but it was not and I found that pretty surprising. I am glad that Alternative does have a tie back to it. [/spoiler]
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Ixrec on October 01, 2010, 07:15:07 pm
Anyways, as for the extra side routes:

[spoiler] I actually found that element interesting. Because while she did not appear to be a virgin in Extra, she did appear to be one in Unlimited. I expected her crisis to be a repeat of what it was in Extra-- but it was not and I found that pretty surprising. I am glad that Alternative does have a tie back to it. [/spoiler]


My vague memory on that point says it was basically identical.  Oh well, I'll pay more attention to it when I get to translating it, so maybe I'll prove myself wrong.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: beliar on October 03, 2010, 12:54:31 pm
Recently started playing Muv-luv and I have to say I am enjoying the comedy of it. Sumika is <3 and Meya is a wonderful no-common-sense-at-all heroine. I'll see how the story will progress later. There is only one quibble of mine: I'm sorely missing translation notes. What kind of swearwords are matsutake, yakitori, tamagoyaki, makunouchi, etc.? Seriously, I would like to play the game without jumping Google every few minutes. :-\

P.S. I just checked the walkthrough and I see that Kouzuki-sensei doesn't have a route while Morimoto does. I'm crying inside. :'( She is the best f-ing character in the game!
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: shinikage on October 03, 2010, 12:56:45 pm
So, to all those people who want a youtube'd subbed version of the long voice-only segment(s) in MuvLuv Alternative.

Here's a down payment on that promise, in the form of a youtube account with a subbed version of Asu e no Houkou.  Have fun ranting about how bad I am at translating songs (link is to song itself, not channel):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yAXEMvIHtT0

anyone knows if there is a subtitled video of the voice only segment at the end of unlimited on youtube?
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Ixrec on October 03, 2010, 01:06:15 pm
Recently started playing Muv-luv and I have to say I am enjoying the comedy of it. Sumika is <3 and Meya is a wonderful no-common-sense-at-all heroine. I'll see how the story will progress later. There is only one quibble of mine: I'm sorely missing translation notes. What kind of swearwords are matsutake, yakitori, tamagoyaki, makunouchi, etc.? Seriously, I would like to play the game without jumping Google every few minutes. :-\

P.S. I just checked the walkthrough and I see that Kouzuki-sensei doesn't have a route while Morimoto does. I'm crying inside. :'( She is the best f-ing character in the game!

Those aren't swearwords, those are food names.  And since those food names are acceptable terminology in English (the English wikipedia should have articles on all of them), there's no point in having a translation note.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: beliar on October 03, 2010, 01:27:33 pm
Recently started playing Muv-luv and I have to say I am enjoying the comedy of it. Sumika is <3 and Meya is a wonderful no-common-sense-at-all heroine. I'll see how the story will progress later. There is only one quibble of mine: I'm sorely missing translation notes. What kind of swearwords are matsutake, yakitori, tamagoyaki, makunouchi, etc.? Seriously, I would like to play the game without jumping Google every few minutes. :-\

P.S. I just checked the walkthrough and I see that Kouzuki-sensei doesn't have a route while Morimoto does. I'm crying inside. :'( She is the best f-ing character in the game!

Those aren't swearwords, those are food names.  And since those food names are acceptable terminology in English (the English wikipedia should have articles on all of them), there's no point in having a translation note.

Yeah, I know those aren't swearwords - that was just me being a smart-ass. 8) But despite them being accepted food terminology I wasn't familiar with them (until I went on wiki). I thought it would have been nice at least to have those terms explained in a readme.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Nagato on October 03, 2010, 10:15:21 pm
The most requested addition from Muv-Luv Alternative All Ages has been added to the 18+ version in our translation:

(http://i.imgur.com/kKvaW.jpg)
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Gore on October 03, 2010, 10:49:16 pm
I discovered the boat in UL, but I didn't get the extra scene in Alternative. That picture right there just reminded me of that, I was a little upset back then.

Because if you discover the boat in UL he knows what to use the fuel for in Alternative, and I KNOW I did find it. Yet when I got there in Alternative he acted surprised by the appearance of a boat.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Ixrec on October 03, 2010, 10:56:54 pm
I discovered the boat in UL, but I didn't get the extra scene in Alternative. That picture right there just reminded me of that, I was a little upset back then.

Because if you discover the boat in UL he knows what to use the fuel for in Alternative, and I KNOW I did find it. Yet when I got there in Alternative he acted surprised by the appearance of a boat.

Ever since I accidentally translated the boat branch (which I'd been told was unique to All Ages), I've been convinced this is a bug in the game itself.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: DxS on October 03, 2010, 11:34:29 pm
What a weird bug.

I don't even know how it could have happened.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Gore on October 03, 2010, 11:43:39 pm
Well at least I finally know why it didn't work.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Yume no Hana on October 04, 2010, 08:04:40 am
Quote from: kVin
Here you have: http://www.mediafire.com/?zlsrnp6ta7pxrpf

Ripped straight from the Altered Fable Movie Selection Disc. It has each and every opening, including those of the all ages versions of the games, so don't hesitate to ask if you need them.

Thank you very much and I'm sorry for the late reply (I've been offline for the last two weeks due to family issues...)
@ Ixrec: When I finish adding the subtitle to the clip, I'll post it here :)
By the way, my native language is Vietnamese.

P/s: Amaterasu translation's translating speed is really incredible @@
50% of part 1 already @@
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: kidlat020 on October 04, 2010, 09:53:35 am
Thank you very much and I'm sorry for the late reply (I've been offline for the last two weeks due to family issues...)
@ Ixrec: When I finish adding the subtitle to the clip, I'll post it here :)
By the way, my native language is Vietnamese.

P/s: Amaterasu translation's translating speed is really incredible @@
50% of part 1 already @@


My head's always goes dizzy whenever Ixrec translates "speedy gonzales" fast.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: shinikage on October 04, 2010, 12:46:21 pm
I discovered the boat in UL, but I didn't get the extra scene in Alternative. That picture right there just reminded me of that, I was a little upset back then.

Because if you discover the boat in UL he knows what to use the fuel for in Alternative, and I KNOW I did find it. Yet when I got there in Alternative he acted surprised by the appearance of a boat.

as far as i know the boat only appears on the all ages version, and you need to have that cg unlocked in unlimited for it to happen
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Ixrec on October 04, 2010, 02:10:37 pm
I discovered the boat in UL, but I didn't get the extra scene in Alternative. That picture right there just reminded me of that, I was a little upset back then.

Because if you discover the boat in UL he knows what to use the fuel for in Alternative, and I KNOW I did find it. Yet when I got there in Alternative he acted surprised by the appearance of a boat.

as far as i know the boat only appears on the all ages version, and you need to have that cg unlocked in unlimited for it to happen

Did you read my post?
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: shinikage on October 06, 2010, 12:12:15 pm
I discovered the boat in UL, but I didn't get the extra scene in Alternative. That picture right there just reminded me of that, I was a little upset back then.

Because if you discover the boat in UL he knows what to use the fuel for in Alternative, and I KNOW I did find it. Yet when I got there in Alternative he acted surprised by the appearance of a boat.

as far as i know the boat only appears on the all ages version, and you need to have that cg unlocked in unlimited for it to happen

Did you read my post?

this is what happens when you go and reply someone after being awake for 26 hours straight (i am serious about this)
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: DxS on October 06, 2010, 03:48:28 pm
D you still need to have the CG unlocked in unlimited for it cause I got a new computer and I really don't wanna play through unlimited jsut to get one extra.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Ixrec on October 06, 2010, 04:13:55 pm
D you still need to have the CG unlocked in unlimited for it cause I got a new computer and I really don't wanna play through unlimited jsut to get one extra.

The problem was that MLA 18+, for all intents and purposes, simply is not checking the MLU saves.  So nagato set it to assume you had found the boat no matter what, thus everyone will get that branch.  You don't even have to play ML to trigger it.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: DxS on October 06, 2010, 05:57:42 pm
D you still need to have the CG unlocked in unlimited for it cause I got a new computer and I really don't wanna play through unlimited jsut to get one extra.

The problem was that MLA 18+, for all intents and purposes, simply is not checking the MLU saves.  So nagato set it to assume you had found the boat no matter what, thus everyone will get that branch.  You don't even have to play ML to trigger it.

Well that's good for me, its cool that Nagato was able to hack that into the game though, what with all the talk about the difficulties in in hacking Age's engine. 
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Ixrec on October 06, 2010, 06:04:16 pm
D you still need to have the CG unlocked in unlimited for it cause I got a new computer and I really don't wanna play through unlimited jsut to get one extra.

The problem was that MLA 18+, for all intents and purposes, simply is not checking the MLU saves.  So nagato set it to assume you had found the boat no matter what, thus everyone will get that branch.  You don't even have to play ML to trigger it.

Well that's good for me, its cool that Nagato was able to hack that into the game though, what with all the talk about the difficulties in in hacking Age's engine. 


It's worth noting that he has not really hacked the game, but worked around it and edited a few little bits and pieces like that (that one happened to be easy since we could tell exactly where the branch should occur, and thus when the game checks to see if you've seen the boat before).
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Yume no Hana on October 08, 2010, 01:40:32 am
@Ixrec:

Asu no he Houkou clip (Muvluv Alternative OP) with karaoke :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WBcSnbabY0Q

As I promised before. Thank you for your hardwork :)

Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Gore on October 11, 2010, 01:38:01 am
Am I the only one bothered by the Grappler class not being Bipedal? There is something about those little stump legs that always bothered me since I played this.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: shinikage on October 20, 2010, 10:52:55 am
Am I the only one bothered by the Grappler class not being Bipedal? There is something about those little stump legs that always bothered me since I played this.

that is because those legs work better when it come to fighting inside the hive, they work like a spider leg allowing them move along the hive walls and ceiling
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: beliar on October 24, 2010, 10:21:53 am
Just a random question that has really been bugging me for some time. Why does Muv-Luv refer to Playstation and Dreamcast by their real names, but Game Boy suddenly becomes Game Guy? After all, Dreamcast and Game Boy are both Nintendo property so it's not like they are afraid of hurting Nintendo's sensibilities. Or am I not getting something here?
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Wind Owl on October 24, 2010, 10:26:10 am
Uh, I haven't read Muvluv but in KimiNozo they refer to PlayStation (プレイステーション) as PlayStallion (プレイスタリオン).
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Ixrec on October 24, 2010, 10:39:32 am
In the Japanese text Playstation is shortened to プレスタ "Presta" and Dreamcast to ドリコス "Dricos", both of which make perfect sense if you speak katakana but would be utter gibberish to an English speaker.

Admittedly, perhaps we should've come up with something similarly copyright-dodging for those.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Moogy on October 24, 2010, 10:56:52 am
After all, Dreamcast and Game Boy are both Nintendo property so it's not like they are afraid of hurting Nintendo's sensibilities.
Um, what. Perhaps you've heard of a company named Sega.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: beliar on October 24, 2010, 01:24:03 pm
After all, Dreamcast and Game Boy are both Nintendo property so it's not like they are afraid of hurting Nintendo's sensibilities.
Um, what. Perhaps you've heard of a company named Sega.

I FAIL.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Ixrec on October 26, 2010, 08:39:18 pm
Coup d'etat Arc translation is now complete.

I'll be taking a week off before starting the Sadogashima Arc, and it should take at least that long to get a patch up.  Do not hold your breath on this.

Also, this arc may be a cockblock to many of you, since there is no Sumika, no BETA, relatively few reveals, a very slow start, and mostly just further buildup to what you really want to read in the other arcs (that's not to say the coup d'etat isn't awesome, it's just not as awesome as you might be hoping).
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Wind Owl on October 26, 2010, 09:01:41 pm
In the Japanese text Playstation is shortened to プレスタ "Presta" and Dreamcast to ドリコス "Dricos", both of which make perfect sense if you speak katakana but would be utter gibberish to an English speaker.

Admittedly, perhaps we should've come up with something similarly copyright-dodging for those.

BTW, KimiNozo does refer to the PlayStallion as プレスタ after the first time it's mentioned, so apparently it is the same system :P
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Moogy on October 26, 2010, 09:16:55 pm
'grats on getting through the second run of Unlimited. Now it's just chapter 8 that should be boring to translate.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: shinikage on October 26, 2010, 09:30:15 pm
grats on completing the first patch for alternative
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Ixrec on October 26, 2010, 09:34:12 pm
grats on completing the first patch for alternative

Patch isn't done yet, just the translation of the scripts which will be in the patch.

Remaining tasks include:
-makoto tlc'ing everything
-assorted editors catching up and/or finishing
-me counter editing all of the above
-all the images getting edited
-me transcribing and translating the arc ending speech
-getting a subbed vid of said speech onto youtube and the text tl set to auto-appear ingame
-me/editors/proofers testing all of the above
-discussing a few minor adaptation issues as a group and re-editing stuff accordingly

Thanks anyway though.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: shinikage on October 26, 2010, 10:42:33 pm
then grats on reaching 100% on the translation
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: AQZT on October 26, 2010, 11:06:16 pm
grats on completing the first patch for alternative

Patch isn't done yet, just the translation of the scripts which will be in the patch.

Remaining tasks include:
-makoto tlc'ing everything
-assorted editors catching up and/or finishing
-me counter editing all of the above
-all the images getting edited
-me transcribing and translating the arc ending speech
-getting a subbed vid of said speech onto youtube and the text tl set to auto-appear ingame
-me/editors/proofers testing all of the above
-discussing a few minor adaptation issues as a group and re-editing stuff accordingly

Thanks anyway though.
What is the ETA?
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: DxS on October 26, 2010, 11:07:11 pm
grats on completing the first patch for alternative

Patch isn't done yet, just the translation of the scripts which will be in the patch.

Remaining tasks include:
-makoto tlc'ing everything
-assorted editors catching up and/or finishing
-me counter editing all of the above
-all the images getting edited
-me transcribing and translating the arc ending speech
-getting a subbed vid of said speech onto youtube and the text tl set to auto-appear ingame
-me/editors/proofers testing all of the above
-discussing a few minor adaptation issues as a group and re-editing stuff accordingly

Thanks anyway though.
What is the ETA?

One week, which is also apparently the length of the break Ixrec is taking before he starts translating again.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Ixrec on October 26, 2010, 11:15:41 pm
grats on completing the first patch for alternative

Patch isn't done yet, just the translation of the scripts which will be in the patch.

Remaining tasks include:
-makoto tlc'ing everything
-assorted editors catching up and/or finishing
-me counter editing all of the above
-all the images getting edited
-me transcribing and translating the arc ending speech
-getting a subbed vid of said speech onto youtube and the text tl set to auto-appear ingame
-me/editors/proofers testing all of the above
-discussing a few minor adaptation issues as a group and re-editing stuff accordingly

Thanks anyway though.
What is the ETA?

Look at the part of my first post that said "at least [a week]".
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: AQZT on October 26, 2010, 11:21:38 pm
grats on completing the first patch for alternative

Patch isn't done yet, just the translation of the scripts which will be in the patch.

Remaining tasks include:
-makoto tlc'ing everything
-assorted editors catching up and/or finishing
-me counter editing all of the above
-all the images getting edited
-me transcribing and translating the arc ending speech
-getting a subbed vid of said speech onto youtube and the text tl set to auto-appear ingame
-me/editors/proofers testing all of the above
-discussing a few minor adaptation issues as a group and re-editing stuff accordingly

Thanks anyway though.
What is the ETA?

Look at the part of my first post that said "at least [a week]".
Ah, looks like I missed that part...
Sorry...
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: KoiNoDensetsu on October 27, 2010, 02:03:44 pm
Shit, now I am getting hyped...  Might consider playing some of MLA before the final patch is released.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Mirrored on October 27, 2010, 02:21:32 pm
GRATS ON PART 1! Keep it up broski!
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Echoman on October 27, 2010, 05:33:06 pm
Shit, now I am getting hyped...  Might consider playing some of MLA before the final patch is released.

Fight the temptation!  It'll be much more satisfying if you do it all at once when it's finished.  I think...  Probably...

Well, I plan to wait anyway.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: shinikage on October 27, 2010, 05:41:27 pm
Shit, now I am getting hyped...  Might consider playing some of MLA before the final patch is released.

MLA now with 90% more Suzumiya
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Ixrec on October 27, 2010, 06:48:11 pm
Shit, now I am getting hyped...  Might consider playing some of MLA before the final patch is released.

Fight the temptation!  It'll be much more satisfying if you do it all at once when it's finished.  I think...  Probably...

Well, I plan to wait anyway.

Honestly, I have no idea which to recommend.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: DxS on October 27, 2010, 07:05:13 pm
I'd say wait, Alt seems like something that you wouldn't wanna put down once you start it.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: KoiNoDensetsu on November 03, 2010, 06:33:30 pm
I previewed MLA.

Meh, special effects are bleh.  At least in the first chapter.  The robot animation looks terrible and some of the new CGs (regardless of their higher resolution) aren't as well drawn as in the original ML.

The first chapter truly is a rehash of MLU.  While it's true that I wasn't reading it line for line and was just reading a few lines as summary, most of the scenes I saw were just Alternate (lol) variations of MLU.  Japanese also didn't seem as hard as people make it out to be, but maybe I was just skimming through the wrong lines.

No Suzumiya(s) or extra characters in first chapter (unless they come at the end)!
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Moogy on November 03, 2010, 06:46:58 pm
None of the Kiminozo characters appear until chapter 8. Also, the effects in rUGP are amazing and you're pretty much a blind piece of shit, hth

go back to playing your shitty fucking school days oh my god you fucking retard die
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Ixrec on November 03, 2010, 06:53:23 pm
I'm just going to ignore the idiocy up there (no "robot animation" takes place in chapter 1 >_>) and give a quick announcement:

Patch release is going to take a little longer than a week since we'd like to have all of the slideshow translated.  Looking like a week and a half (ie within the next three days) but still can't be certain.  I'll probably start translating Sadogashima Arc tomorrow as planned though.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: KoiNoDensetsu on November 03, 2010, 06:57:52 pm
(oops, meant first arc lol)

I was expecting a trollish reply from Moogy. XD  But the scenes where the BETA move looks like craaaap.  I was actually expecting it since I saw it mentioned in Taka Jun's review.

Oh, one thing I forgot to mention: How hilarious the intro scene is (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbdVfJGRbfw) (this part -does- have good effects, so calm down, Moogy-chan xP)!  "BRABOOO READER!!!  YOUR MAGE IS A SHITHOLE OF STATUS!" xDDD
Lol I hope Engrish like that isn't present in any exciting or tense scenes.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Ixrec on November 03, 2010, 08:38:42 pm
There are no BETA in the first arc.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: DxS on November 03, 2010, 09:15:02 pm
Well ignoring KnD being wrong and Moogy raging hard, is the first patch just basically a rehash of UL (by this i mean same basic events take place)? if so this would definitely make waiting for the final patch easier.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: shinikage on November 03, 2010, 10:32:09 pm
the first arc has the exact same events as MLU but in a whole different point of view so just skimming through will not make you realize it (saying any more than this is going to be an spoiler)
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Ixrec on November 03, 2010, 10:51:04 pm
I wouldn't say point of view (same narrator, just older/smarter) so much as events just flat out happen differently, and by the end of the arc you've gone through an entire international incident which never even happened in MLU.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: shinikage on November 03, 2010, 11:12:52 pm
even when the same event happened the way those ended helped to create such an international incident
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Ixrec on November 04, 2010, 12:26:25 am
I await your post's self-edit.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Ice on November 04, 2010, 03:00:34 pm
Keep in mind that chapters 1-5 are less than 15% of the game and only 2-4 can be considered "rehash" of Unlimited. Anyway, chapter 6 is the first taste of what Alternative really is.

Also wtf was KnD talking about? You don't see any scenes with BETA moving until chapter 7...
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Phoenix Wright on November 04, 2010, 04:29:11 pm
But the scenes where the BETA move looks like craaaap.

event when the same event happened the way those ended helped to create such an international incident

Is it strange that I understand the latter post more than the former?
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: DxS on November 04, 2010, 04:37:45 pm
But the scenes where the BETA move looks like craaaap.

event when the same event happened the way those ended helped to create such an international incident

Is it strange that I understand the latter post more than the former?

Yea i think so since the former makes sense even though a lot of people have said he's spouting nonsense and the former is pretty engrishy.

Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Ixrec on November 04, 2010, 05:03:25 pm
But the scenes where the BETA move looks like craaaap.

event when the same event happened the way those ended helped to create such an international incident

Is it strange that I understand the latter post more than the former?

Yea i think so since the former makes sense even though a lot of people have said he's spouting nonsense and the former is pretty engrishy.



It makes some sense to me since the former quote is objectively false while the latter is simply a badly phrased attempt at something objectively true.  So if we interpret Wright's use of "make sense" as "understand how one would come to write such a thing" then the post makes perfect sense to me.

You can tell I've been doing computational theory homework today.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: shinikage on November 05, 2010, 03:48:50 pm
But the scenes where the BETA move looks like craaaap.

event when the same event happened the way those ended helped to create such an international incident

Is it strange that I understand the latter post more than the former?


Yea i think so since the former makes sense even though a lot of people have said he's spouting nonsense and the former is pretty engrishy.



It makes some sense to me since the former quote is objectively false while the latter is simply a badly phrased attempt at something objectively true.  So if we interpret Wright's use of "make sense" as "understand how one would come to write such a thing" then the post makes perfect sense to me.

You can tell I've been doing computational theory homework today.
sorry for the nonsense of my previous post i was sleep deprived due to an all-nighter for work

my point was that even when the same events do happen the way they end this time is different from the first time, which lead to the start of new events anything more would be a spoiler
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Ixrec on November 05, 2010, 11:17:37 pm
Oh right, forgot to mention.

During the first arc I aimed for 20kb most of the time even though I only promised 15, and for the most part I actually managed this, though for at least the next week or so I'll need to stick to a mere 15kb a day, if only because I really want to do well on this programming project.

As for the patch release date:
[22:13:51] <[RoXaS]> I fully intend on finishing [the images] tomorrow
So expect it in two days to account for testing and whatnot.

Also, the staff members who have a clue how to record/sub/hardcore/upload videos have been working on the subbed speech all day, but it turned out all the recordings have a massive audio bug that they've been unable to solve.  It only affects characters with one line in the scene though (the person actually giving the speech is unaffected) so maybe we'll upload the buggy version anyway if worse comes to worst.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: kidlat020 on November 06, 2010, 08:42:41 am
must....resist....temptation...!

...actually, how can I resist it if I haven't got MLA on my hands yet? and since I got into that tangent, what version of MuvLuv alternative should I have? would the DVD version do?
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: shinikage on November 06, 2010, 12:38:51 pm
must....resist....temptation...!

...actually, how can I resist it if I haven't got MLA on my hands yet? and since I got into that tangent, what version of MuvLuv alternative should I have? would the DVD version do?
i really hope it is the DVD version
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Ixrec on November 08, 2010, 09:19:02 am
Incidentally, for those of you who like looking at my scripts:

http://www.mediafire.com/?uw6re7wp9a207

Some guy asking for half of this on the blog prompted me to finally get all of the archives uploaded and placed in a single shareable folder.  Have fun with that.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: fern3887 on November 08, 2010, 06:15:49 pm
Sadly I couldn't resist and had to play through what was available at the moment. I can only wonder what the rest of the story develops. Although I am aware of the what goes on, I cannot understand the meanings behind the events if I cannot surpass the language barrier. I am glad Ixrec and the rest of staff involved decided to translate such a big project, so I'd like to thank them. (You can probably tell that I just joined the forum)

Either way, I was wondering the general opinion on the result of war in MLA.
[spoiler]Was it necessary for the majority of the characters to be killed off like they did? I did understand why Marimo's death was necessary, but the almost the entire A-01 squad? Although in the end it does reset into the "final extra", I do not think the player would think its justifiable. [/spoiler]

Sorry if my question is rather dumb, but then again I am very interested how most feel about this.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Ixrec on November 08, 2010, 06:29:07 pm
If you insist.

[spoiler]I did feel the order of the deaths was annoyingly predictable, like my review mentioned, but the death count itself was fine.  If anything it would've cheapened the experience to have significantly fewer deaths, given all that exposition about how bad humanity's odds are.[/spoiler]
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: fern3887 on November 08, 2010, 08:34:39 pm
Yeah, you are right on that.

One thing I do find amazing that [spoiler]Takeru for the most part avoided any serious type of injury. I just hope it wasn't just because he was the protagonist, I am sure in other VN the protagonist might get hurt or even killed.[/spoiler]

Ixrec: sorry I'm paranoid about tagging stuff
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Ixrec on November 08, 2010, 09:00:55 pm
[spoiler]I chalk that one up to the absolutely insane amount of flight time he accumulated by living through MLU-verse however many times it was, and then happening to be inside the giant tank/Susano for the one fight that truly was a total suicide mission.[/spoiler]
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: HashiriyaR32 on November 08, 2010, 09:09:05 pm
(oops, meant first arc lol)

I was expecting a trollish reply from Moogy. XD  But the scenes where the BETA move looks like craaaap.  I was actually expecting it since I saw it mentioned in Taka Jun's review.

Oh, one thing I forgot to mention: How hilarious the intro scene is (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbdVfJGRbfw) (this part -does- have good effects, so calm down, Moogy-chan xP)!  "BRABOOO READER!!!  YOUR MAGE IS A SHITHOLE OF STATUS!" xDDD
Lol I hope Engrish like that isn't present in any exciting or tense scenes.

Oh shi.........now I remember that part.  My head was about to frickin explode with that mix of native and non-native english speakers in that fricking scene.  I first saw it when a friend of mine decided to stream part of MLA live 2 years ago.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: shinikage on November 08, 2010, 09:11:17 pm
[spoiler]well i am pretty sure that even when Takeru doesn't remember it he must have real combat experience from the MLUverse, to be honest i don't like the final of lets get you into a whole new universe and make it like it never happened[/spoiler]
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Ixrec on November 08, 2010, 10:22:21 pm
[spoiler]well i am pretty sure that even when Takeru doesn't remember it he must have real combat experience from the MLUverse, to be honest i don't like the final of lets get you into a whole new universe and make it like it never happened[/spoiler]

[spoiler]I didn't like the idea of him losing his memories at the end, but going back to MLE-verse and in and of itself was kinda supposed to happen since the start of MLU so once again I would've disappointed if they did it any other way.[/spoiler]
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: shinikage on November 08, 2010, 11:27:55 pm
[spoiler]well i am pretty sure that even when Takeru doesn't remember it he must have real combat experience from the MLUverse, to be honest i don't like the final of lets get you into a whole new universe and make it like it never happened[/spoiler]

[spoiler]I didn't like the idea of him losing his memories at the end, but going back to MLE-verse and in and of itself was kinda supposed to happen since the start of MLU so once again I would've disappointed if they did it any other way.[/spoiler]

[spoiler]indeed the part about his memories is what bothers me the most of that ending, basically he goes back to being takeru from extra, i played the altered fable fan disk and i really liked the idea of kasumi being able to remember, i hope we can see a real ending for it[/spoiler]
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: kidlat020 on November 09, 2010, 07:22:07 am
must...resist...spoilers....
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: fern3887 on November 09, 2010, 08:40:24 am
[spoiler]well i am pretty sure that even when Takeru doesn't remember it he must have real combat experience from the MLUverse, to be honest i don't like the final of lets get you into a whole new universe and make it like it never happened[/spoiler]

[spoiler]I didn't like the idea of him losing his memories at the end, but going back to MLE-verse and in and of itself was kinda supposed to happen since the start of MLU so once again I would've disappointed if they did it any other way.[/spoiler]

[spoiler]Well I have been disappointed to read that he does, but I knew that from previous sources. Well I think that could be attributed that there is nothing to attach him to MLA time-line anymore. With the explanation that Yuuko-sensei about Takeru's dreams in MLA she does state that worlds itself can contain information. Or at least that is how I understood that section itself. "Final Extra" is a completely new time-line so that world is new with a blank database of information. Maybe that is why he cannot remember anything unless there is an outside force that fills that in for him. [/spoiler]
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: shinikage on November 09, 2010, 09:07:00 am
[spoiler]well i am pretty sure that even when Takeru doesn't remember it he must have real combat experience from the MLUverse, to be honest i don't like the final of lets get you into a whole new universe and make it like it never happened[/spoiler]

[spoiler]I didn't like the idea of him losing his memories at the end, but going back to MLE-verse and in and of itself was kinda supposed to happen since the start of MLU so once again I would've disappointed if they did it any other way.[/spoiler]

[spoiler]yeah but there is the fact that kasumi is also from the MLA univerese and she remembers everything [/spoiler]

[spoiler]Well I have been disappointed to read that he does, but I knew that from previous sources. Well I think that could be attributed that there is nothing to attach him to MLA time-line anymore. With the explanation that Yuuko-sensei about Takeru's dreams in MLA she does state that worlds itself can contain information. Or at least that is how I understood that section itself. "Final Extra" is a completely new time-line so that world is new with a blank database of information. Maybe that is why he cannot remember anything unless there is an outside force that fills that in for him. [/spoiler]
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: fern3887 on November 09, 2010, 09:12:44 am
Ah, then that makes a big difference. It seems like I will have to wait until the whole thing is translated. After all, reading about it is not as effective as reading it yourself.  I hate the fact I cannot overcome this language barrier myself  :'( . Thankfully Ixrec and the rest are helping in this regard.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: shinikage on November 09, 2010, 09:20:20 am
np man lets hope we can see the second patch sometime before autumn of 2011
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: gabgrave on November 09, 2010, 06:28:30 pm
You won't believe what i found on ebay... Some guy is totally ripping off muvluv...

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/BETA-Muv-Luv-Frederic-P-Miller-NEW-/270660380043
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: shinikage on November 09, 2010, 06:30:42 pm
lol that is interesting????

[spoiler]BTW i was surprised when i read that the takemikaduchi that is given to meiya when she passed the evaluation used to be yuhii personal unit and that she is an eishin with more experience than all the girls from the 207 squad[/spoiler]
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: fern3887 on November 09, 2010, 11:14:56 pm
lol that is interesting????

[spoiler]BTW i was surprised when i read that the takemikaduchi that is given to meiya when she passed the evaluation used to be yuhii personal unit and that she is an eishin with more experience than all the girls from the 207 squad[/spoiler]

[spoiler]Well she was the supreme commander for the country, so she needed to have some experience. I was just amazed that she could handle the stresses of the Senjutsuki without the actual pilot suit (forgot what the name was). Now I wonder if the Coup d'Etat occurred in MLU. After all, I am sure they broadcast the same message as well.[/spoiler]
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: gabgrave on November 09, 2010, 11:30:02 pm
lol that is interesting????

[spoiler]BTW i was surprised when i read that the takemikaduchi that is given to meiya when she passed the evaluation used to be yuhii personal unit and that she is an eishin with more experience than all the girls from the 207 squad[/spoiler]

[spoiler]Well she was the supreme commander for the country, so she needed to have some experience. I was just amazed that she could handle the stresses of the Senjutsuki without the actual pilot suit (forgot what the name was). Now I wonder if the Coup d'Etat occurred in MLU. After all, I am sure they broadcast the same message as well.[/spoiler]

Whoa where did this info come from? the MLA big resource book?
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: fern3887 on November 09, 2010, 11:31:36 pm
Some from the partial translation I have played through, and I have read other forums about the game. As for the other people who are commenting, they probably have played the whole thing as they probably know the native language in some way.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: JONJONAUG on November 10, 2010, 12:02:34 am
lol that is interesting????

[spoiler]BTW i was surprised when i read that the takemikaduchi that is given to meiya when she passed the evaluation used to be yuhii personal unit and that she is an eishin with more experience than all the girls from the 207 squad[/spoiler]

[spoiler]Well she was the supreme commander for the country, so she needed to have some experience. I was just amazed that she could handle the stresses of the Senjutsuki without the actual pilot suit (forgot what the name was). Now I wonder if the Coup d'Etat occurred in MLU. After all, I am sure they broadcast the same message as well.[/spoiler]

The Coup d'Etat doesn't happen in MLU because Takeru's squad handled the evacuation differently, so the catalyst for the coup never occurred.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: fern3887 on November 10, 2010, 12:16:55 am
Didn't think of that, I thought they would have done something to them later.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: gabgrave on November 10, 2010, 12:18:00 am
I played it through completely a few times before, [spoiler]and it only mentions Yuhii having enough training experince with TSFs before. Of course, in the regards that 207 was only just introduced into TSFs, it may be a fact that Yuhii has more hours in TSFs then any individual in that squard other then Takeru... Also, the Takemikaduchi as a design is given only to the Imperial household, which includes their guards, who have a mass produced version. The royal family have their own individually customised, tuned up Takemikaduchi's. So the purple ver is the most souped up one, and is limited only to the royal family. In that regards, since Meyia is brought up to be a body double, she does not have a offically produced personal TSF. Thus assuming Yuhii has gotten word that Meyia has graduated and will be on the front lines, she ordered that her TSF be given over to Meyia, thus giving her twin sister a better chance on the battlefield. This kinda spoils the body double thing though, being a shout out loud there is a Imperial Family member in the UN, but one theory i have is that things were going to hell in a nutshell anyway with alternative 5 coming up, and the political game did not seem as important as keeping her sister safe. It was mentioned as well in MLU that in the event of Alt 5, Yuhii planned to stay behind anyway.

And she couldn't handle the stress of TSF movement without the suit. Thus the stops that allowed the rebel forces to catch up. It would be like being in a space shuttle yo-yo, 3 gees up, then free fall, impact with the ground, repeat, for like hours. I'm just suprised she held up for 15 mins. Its ten times worst then being in a heli inserting via ground following methods. [/spoiler]
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: fern3887 on November 10, 2010, 12:33:44 am
I played it through completely a few times before, [spoiler]and it only mentions Yuhii having enough training experince with TSFs before. Of course, in the regards that 207 was only just introduced into TSFs, it may be a fact that Yuhii has more hours in TSFs then any individual in that squard other then Takeru... Also, the Takemikaduchi as a design is given only to the Imperial household, which includes their guards, who have a mass produced version. The royal family have their own individually customised, tuned up Takemikaduchi's. So the purple ver is the most souped up one, and is limited only to the royal family. In that regards, since Meyia is brought up to be a body double, she does not have a offically produced personal TSF. Thus assuming Yuhii has gotten word that Meyia has graduated and will be on the front lines, she ordered that her TSF be given over to Meyia, thus giving her twin sister a better chance on the battlefield. This kinda spoils the body double thing though, being a shout out loud there is a Imperial Family member in the UN, but one theory i have is that things were going to hell in a nutshell anyway with alternative 5 coming up, and the political game did not seem as important as keeping her sister safe. It was mentioned as well in MLU that in the event of Alt 5, Yuhii planned to stay behind anyway.

And she couldn't handle the stress of TSF movement without the suit. Thus the stops that allowed the rebel forces to catch up. It would be like being in a space shuttle yo-yo, 3 gees up, then free fall, impact with the ground, repeat, for like hours. I'm just suprised she held up for 15 mins. Its ten times worst then being in a heli inserting via ground following methods. [/spoiler]
[spoiler]Well she did handle it as very well considering not having the suit. Of course she would not have make it if they continued on, but without it, it was amazing. I also agree that she stayed behind in MLU as all the Imperial household threw their tickets to the shuttle when they first got them. They were the example for the nation, and they know they are not going to leave without fighting.[/spoiler]
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: gabgrave on November 10, 2010, 12:58:37 am
I played it through completely a few times before, [spoiler]and it only mentions Yuhii having enough training experince with TSFs before. Of course, in the regards that 207 was only just introduced into TSFs, it may be a fact that Yuhii has more hours in TSFs then any individual in that squard other then Takeru... Also, the Takemikaduchi as a design is given only to the Imperial household, which includes their guards, who have a mass produced version. The royal family have their own individually customised, tuned up Takemikaduchi's. So the purple ver is the most souped up one, and is limited only to the royal family. In that regards, since Meyia is brought up to be a body double, she does not have a offically produced personal TSF. Thus assuming Yuhii has gotten word that Meyia has graduated and will be on the front lines, she ordered that her TSF be given over to Meyia, thus giving her twin sister a better chance on the battlefield. This kinda spoils the body double thing though, being a shout out loud there is a Imperial Family member in the UN, but one theory i have is that things were going to hell in a nutshell anyway with alternative 5 coming up, and the political game did not seem as important as keeping her sister safe. It was mentioned as well in MLU that in the event of Alt 5, Yuhii planned to stay behind anyway.

And she couldn't handle the stress of TSF movement without the suit. Thus the stops that allowed the rebel forces to catch up. It would be like being in a space shuttle yo-yo, 3 gees up, then free fall, impact with the ground, repeat, for like hours. I'm just suprised she held up for 15 mins. Its ten times worst then being in a heli inserting via ground following methods. [/spoiler]
[spoiler]Well she did handle it as very well considering not having the suit. Of course she would not have make it if they continued on, but without it, it was amazing. I also agree that she stayed behind in MLU as all the Imperial household threw their tickets to the shuttle when they first got them. They were the example for the nation, and they know they are not going to leave without fighting.[/spoiler]

Personally, i call it animenarration lampshading. Same for what they said about the effects of motion sickness killing someone. they could have just given her a paper bag and tough it out...
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: fern3887 on November 10, 2010, 01:22:29 am
Ahaha, why didn't they think of that.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Ixrec on November 10, 2010, 08:57:56 am
I played it through completely a few times before, [spoiler]and it only mentions Yuhii having enough training experince with TSFs before. Of course, in the regards that 207 was only just introduced into TSFs, it may be a fact that Yuhii has more hours in TSFs then any individual in that squard other then Takeru... Also, the Takemikaduchi as a design is given only to the Imperial household, which includes their guards, who have a mass produced version. The royal family have their own individually customised, tuned up Takemikaduchi's. So the purple ver is the most souped up one, and is limited only to the royal family. In that regards, since Meyia is brought up to be a body double, she does not have a offically produced personal TSF. Thus assuming Yuhii has gotten word that Meyia has graduated and will be on the front lines, she ordered that her TSF be given over to Meyia, thus giving her twin sister a better chance on the battlefield. This kinda spoils the body double thing though, being a shout out loud there is a Imperial Family member in the UN, but one theory i have is that things were going to hell in a nutshell anyway with alternative 5 coming up, and the political game did not seem as important as keeping her sister safe. It was mentioned as well in MLU that in the event of Alt 5, Yuhii planned to stay behind anyway.

And she couldn't handle the stress of TSF movement without the suit. Thus the stops that allowed the rebel forces to catch up. It would be like being in a space shuttle yo-yo, 3 gees up, then free fall, impact with the ground, repeat, for like hours. I'm just suprised she held up for 15 mins. Its ten times worst then being in a heli inserting via ground following methods. [/spoiler]
[spoiler]Well she did handle it as very well considering not having the suit. Of course she would not have make it if they continued on, but without it, it was amazing. I also agree that she stayed behind in MLU as all the Imperial household threw their tickets to the shuttle when they first got them. They were the example for the nation, and they know they are not going to leave without fighting.[/spoiler]

Personally, i call it animenarration lampshading. Same for what they said about the effects of motion sickness killing someone. they could have just given her a paper bag and tough it out...

Did you miss the part about dehydration being the potentially lethal aspect of vomiting?

Not that I have any idea if that's true, but it sure sounded plausible.

Also @gabrave: [spoiler]"This kinda spoils the body double thing though, being a shout out loud there is a Imperial Family member in the UN"[/spoiler]

[spoiler]Everyone already knew Meiya was at least distantly related to the emperor because of her appearance and surname.  It was pretty much explicitly stated that Takeru was the odd man out for *not* knowing that.  So while sending the Takemikazuchi implies Meiya's a little closer to someone of supreme importance than people might have otherwise thought (as Takeru points out in MLA), it's far from blowing the lid on some huge secret.[/spoiler]
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: shinikage on November 10, 2010, 09:42:08 am
I played it through completely a few times before, [spoiler]and it only mentions Yuhii having enough training experince with TSFs before. Of course, in the regards that 207 was only just introduced into TSFs, it may be a fact that Yuhii has more hours in TSFs then any individual in that squard other then Takeru... Also, the Takemikaduchi as a design is given only to the Imperial household, which includes their guards, who have a mass produced version. The royal family have their own individually customised, tuned up Takemikaduchi's. So the purple ver is the most souped up one, and is limited only to the royal family. In that regards, since Meyia is brought up to be a body double, she does not have a offically produced personal TSF. Thus assuming Yuhii has gotten word that Meyia has graduated and will be on the front lines, she ordered that her TSF be given over to Meyia, thus giving her twin sister a better chance on the battlefield. This kinda spoils the body double thing though, being a shout out loud there is a Imperial Family member in the UN, but one theory i have is that things were going to hell in a nutshell anyway with alternative 5 coming up, and the political game did not seem as important as keeping her sister safe. It was mentioned as well in MLU that in the event of Alt 5, Yuhii planned to stay behind anyway.

And she couldn't handle the stress of TSF movement without the suit. Thus the stops that allowed the rebel forces to catch up. It would be like being in a space shuttle yo-yo, 3 gees up, then free fall, impact with the ground, repeat, for like hours. I'm just suprised she held up for 15 mins. Its ten times worst then being in a heli inserting via ground following methods. [/spoiler]
[spoiler]Well she did handle it as very well considering not having the suit. Of course she would not have make it if they continued on, but without it, it was amazing. I also agree that she stayed behind in MLU as all the Imperial household threw their tickets to the shuttle when they first got them. They were the example for the nation, and they know they are not going to leave without fighting.[/spoiler]

Personally, i call it animenarration lampshading. Same for what they said about the effects of motion sickness killing someone. they could have just given her a paper bag and tough it out...

Did you miss the part about dehydration being the potentially lethal aspect of vomiting?

Not that I have any idea if that's true, but it sure sounded plausible.

Also @gabrave: [spoiler]"This kinda spoils the body double thing though, being a shout out loud there is a Imperial Family member in the UN"[/spoiler]

[spoiler]Everyone already knew Meiya was at least distantly related to the emperor because of her appearance and surname.  It was pretty much explicitly stated that Takeru was the odd man out for *not* knowing that.  So while sending the Takemikazuchi implies Meiya's a little closer to someone of supreme importance than people might have otherwise thought (as Takeru points out in MLA), it's far from blowing the lid on some huge secret.[/spoiler]

[spoiler]don't forget that meiya is a political prisoner in order to prove japan loyalty to the UN [/spoiler]
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Ixrec on November 10, 2010, 09:45:45 am
I played it through completely a few times before, [spoiler]and it only mentions Yuhii having enough training experince with TSFs before. Of course, in the regards that 207 was only just introduced into TSFs, it may be a fact that Yuhii has more hours in TSFs then any individual in that squard other then Takeru... Also, the Takemikaduchi as a design is given only to the Imperial household, which includes their guards, who have a mass produced version. The royal family have their own individually customised, tuned up Takemikaduchi's. So the purple ver is the most souped up one, and is limited only to the royal family. In that regards, since Meyia is brought up to be a body double, she does not have a offically produced personal TSF. Thus assuming Yuhii has gotten word that Meyia has graduated and will be on the front lines, she ordered that her TSF be given over to Meyia, thus giving her twin sister a better chance on the battlefield. This kinda spoils the body double thing though, being a shout out loud there is a Imperial Family member in the UN, but one theory i have is that things were going to hell in a nutshell anyway with alternative 5 coming up, and the political game did not seem as important as keeping her sister safe. It was mentioned as well in MLU that in the event of Alt 5, Yuhii planned to stay behind anyway.

And she couldn't handle the stress of TSF movement without the suit. Thus the stops that allowed the rebel forces to catch up. It would be like being in a space shuttle yo-yo, 3 gees up, then free fall, impact with the ground, repeat, for like hours. I'm just suprised she held up for 15 mins. Its ten times worst then being in a heli inserting via ground following methods. [/spoiler]
[spoiler]Well she did handle it as very well considering not having the suit. Of course she would not have make it if they continued on, but without it, it was amazing. I also agree that she stayed behind in MLU as all the Imperial household threw their tickets to the shuttle when they first got them. They were the example for the nation, and they know they are not going to leave without fighting.[/spoiler]

Personally, i call it animenarration lampshading. Same for what they said about the effects of motion sickness killing someone. they could have just given her a paper bag and tough it out...

Did you miss the part about dehydration being the potentially lethal aspect of vomiting?

Not that I have any idea if that's true, but it sure sounded plausible.

Also @gabrave: [spoiler]"This kinda spoils the body double thing though, being a shout out loud there is a Imperial Family member in the UN"[/spoiler]

[spoiler]Everyone already knew Meiya was at least distantly related to the emperor because of her appearance and surname.  It was pretty much explicitly stated that Takeru was the odd man out for *not* knowing that.  So while sending the Takemikazuchi implies Meiya's a little closer to someone of supreme importance than people might have otherwise thought (as Takeru points out in MLA), it's far from blowing the lid on some huge secret.[/spoiler]

[spoiler]don't forget that meiya is a political prisoner in order to prove japan loyalty to the UN [/spoiler]

I don't think that's supposed to be public knowledge but okay.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: shinikage on November 10, 2010, 09:59:59 am
[spoiler]sorry i was answering to gabrave comment about meiya being in the UN even when she is supposed to be the shogun shadow, is obvious that it is not general knowledge[/spoiler]
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Ixrec on November 10, 2010, 10:20:06 am
[spoiler]sorry i was answering to gabrave comment about meiya being in the UN even when she is supposed to be the shogun shadow, is obvious that it is not general knowledge[/spoiler]

Oh. Never mind.

Though he might wanna reread the partial if he missed a detail that huge.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: shinikage on November 10, 2010, 10:29:36 am
[spoiler]sorry i was answering to gabrave comment about meiya being in the UN even when she is supposed to be the shogun shadow, is obvious that it is not general knowledge[/spoiler]

Oh. Never mind.

Though he might wanna reread the partial if he missed a detail that huge.
indeed.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: gabgrave on November 10, 2010, 06:58:34 pm
[spoiler]sorry i was answering to gabrave comment about meiya being in the UN even when she is supposed to be the shogun shadow, is obvious that it is not general knowledge[/spoiler]

Oh. Never mind.

Though he might wanna reread the partial if he missed a detail that huge.
indeed.

Not really missed, but i am making certain assumptions about this:

[spoiler]

The OC and senior officers of the facility of UN Japan HQ, Squad 207, some of the instructors might know or suspect Meyia's full identity, but the Rest of the World out side of Japan (namely the one country not in direct contact with BETA) would not normally know or care  about one soldier's identity, with a false ID (Didn't remb if it was pointed out to Takeru by Meyai about her name as a clue but it still stands that not everyone would have noticed her it there were no notes like "Empress of Japan Twin Sister" listed in her bio). Until someone issues them a gaint next generation mech, in Royal Colors for personal use. Evident by the two pilots who come questioning about it.

Also, UN =/= US, so they do not necessary have the same data. And The Man in the Iron Mask scenario comes to mind. The aggressor forces would have done something if they had full access to her identity in the first place.

The part about Meyia being in the UN, is a choice made by Meyia, as she would not have been accepted or be able to blend in in the Japanese Forces. I think the same was said of the other team members of 207 B Squad.

Of course, i may just be looking too much into it, and this is just my guesstimate, so until its fully stated in the Novels or something, just treat it as another opinion ^^ [/spoiler]

Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: shinikage on November 10, 2010, 07:21:57 pm
[spoiler]well the fact that meiya is related to the emperor family is almost known by everyone in the UN base. just her face, her last name and the fact that the royal guard stationed at the base obey her and treat her with utmost respect (no wonder she is surprised by takeru friendly behavior) the takemikaduchi only served as an authentication seal to everyone, i am not even sure that the fact she is the shogun shadow is really such a well guarded secret inside the base seeing how she looks the same as the shogun, here is an example
eishin 1: Hey look that cadet has the same face as the shogun.
eishin 2: What are you saying man she doesn't look anywhere the same as the shogun.
eishin 1: What makes you say that???
eishin 2: Look her hair ornament is different.
eishin 1: danmit you right man, how did i miss that??????
yeah i am pretty sure you heard that kind of talk a lot around meiya
 [/spoiler]
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Ixrec on November 10, 2010, 07:30:09 pm
[spoiler]sorry i was answering to gabrave comment about meiya being in the UN even when she is supposed to be the shogun shadow, is obvious that it is not general knowledge[/spoiler]

Oh. Never mind.

Though he might wanna reread the partial if he missed a detail that huge.
indeed.

Not really missed, but i am making certain assumptions about this:

[spoiler]

The OC and senior officers of the facility of UN Japan HQ, Squad 207, some of the instructors might know or suspect Meyia's full identity, but the Rest of the World out side of Japan (namely the one country not in direct contact with BETA) would not normally know or care  about one soldier's identity, with a false ID (Didn't remb if it was pointed out to Takeru by Meyai about her name as a clue but it still stands that not everyone would have noticed her it there were no notes like "Empress of Japan Twin Sister" listed in her bio). Until someone issues them a gaint next generation mech, in Royal Colors for personal use. Evident by the two pilots who come questioning about it.

Also, UN =/= US, so they do not necessary have the same data. And The Man in the Iron Mask scenario comes to mind. The aggressor forces would have done something if they had full access to her identity in the first place.

The part about Meyia being in the UN, is a choice made by Meyia, as she would not have been accepted or be able to blend in in the Japanese Forces. I think the same was said of the other team members of 207 B Squad.

Of course, i may just be looking too much into it, and this is just my guesstimate, so until its fully stated in the Novels or something, just treat it as another opinion ^^ [/spoiler]



Much of that is objectively wrong so yeah will "treat it as an opinion."
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: fern3887 on November 10, 2010, 11:35:46 pm
[spoiler]well the fact that meiya is related to the emperor family is almost known by everyone in the UN base. just her face, her last name and the fact that the royal guard stationed at the base obey her and treat her with utmost respect (no wonder she is surprised by takeru friendly behavior) the takemikaduchi only served as an authentication seal to everyone, i am not even sure that the fact she is the shogun shadow is really such a well guarded secret inside the base seeing how she looks the same as the shogun, here is an example
eishin 1: Hey look that cadet has the same face as the shogun.
eishin 2: What are you saying man she doesn't look anywhere the same as the shogun.
eishin 1: What makes you say that???
eishin 2: Look her hair ornament is different.
eishin 1: danmit you right man, how did i miss that??????
yeah i am pretty sure you heard that kind of talk a lot around meiya
 [/spoiler]
[spoiler]I am guessing the two Eishi's that punched Takeru in PX were ignorant then. How could they not know that she is part of the Imperial family if she looks similar to the Shogun?[/spoiler]
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Belgaesh on November 11, 2010, 05:47:22 am
[spoiler]I was wondering were have I heard the name Ouka(Cherry Blossom) from Operetion Ouka in Alternative before, and found it. Ohka was the name of japanese WWII kamikaze aircraft, created with the purpose of ramming Allied ships.

Maybe this was why the autor chose to name operation from the game, to indicate a total suicide mission.

Info on the plane:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ohka[/spoiler]
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: shinikage on November 11, 2010, 11:32:19 pm
[spoiler]well the fact that meiya is related to the emperor family is almost known by everyone in the UN base. just her face, her last name and the fact that the royal guard stationed at the base obey her and treat her with utmost respect (no wonder she is surprised by takeru friendly behavior) the takemikaduchi only served as an authentication seal to everyone, i am not even sure that the fact she is the shogun shadow is really such a well guarded secret inside the base seeing how she looks the same as the shogun, here is an example
eishin 1: Hey look that cadet has the same face as the shogun.
eishin 2: What are you saying man she doesn't look anywhere the same as the shogun.
eishin 1: What makes you say that???
eishin 2: Look her hair ornament is different.
eishin 1: danmit you right man, how did i miss that??????
yeah i am pretty sure you heard that kind of talk a lot around meiya
 [/spoiler]
[spoiler]I am guessing the two Eishi's that punched Takeru in PX were ignorant then. How could they not know that she is part of the Imperial family if she looks similar to the Shogun?[/spoiler]
[spoiler]nah they are just someone else errand boy otherwise the guy wouldn't have hit takeru right off the bat as soon he made mention of that[/spoiler]
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: fern3887 on November 12, 2010, 04:23:45 pm
[spoiler]That sounds reasonable, although it was a petty request I imagine.[/spoiler]
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: shinikage on November 12, 2010, 06:41:25 pm
[spoiler]That sounds reasonable, although it was a petty request I imagine.[/spoiler]
[spoiler]and very troublesome since  they could get in trouble with the imperial guard, but then again i am pretty sure whoever ordered them to go didn't cared about them[/spoiler]
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Ixrec on November 12, 2010, 06:44:55 pm
I like how we've worked our way down from spoilers for the end of MLA to spoilers for the recent patch to spoilers for MLU which probably don't even need tags.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: shinikage on November 12, 2010, 06:46:05 pm
I like how we've worked our way down from spoilers for the end of MLA to spoilers for the recent patch to spoilers for MLU which probably don't even need tags.
it has been a long wait :P
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: fern3887 on November 14, 2010, 07:04:18 am
I like how we've worked our way down from spoilers for the end of MLA to spoilers for the recent patch to spoilers for MLU which probably don't even need tags.
We worked our way backwards. Its always good to revisit and try to piece together what you find out with what you already knew to make connections. I would probably end up doing the same with the later patches, I do apologize in advance.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Shikiller on November 15, 2010, 10:20:57 pm
someone sort of subbed Songs of Distant Earth:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=97qmMJQ5k78
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: SkyReed on November 16, 2010, 12:57:46 am
May I ask what software did you use and how did you extract RIO files? Because I would like to have a copy of MuvLuv's Opening Videos and CGs if ever I'm going to make a fan video of it.

Thank you very much! :)
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Nagato on November 16, 2010, 01:03:39 am
May I ask what software did you use and how did you extract RIO files? Because I would like to have a copy of MuvLuv's Opening Videos and CGs if ever I'm going to make a fan video of it.

Thank you very much! :)
A tool that can rip the videos from the .rios doesn't exist, or if it does it's not public. You can hunt down the Westside CD from a recent comiket and grab muvluvcvt.lzh off it for the CGs.

http://www.westside.co.jp/otacd/64/new.htm
http://www.westside.co.jp/download/sale/20060801/muvluvcvt.txt
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: SkyReed on November 16, 2010, 02:47:50 am
Oh, I see. Thank you very much for the help!
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Temuthril on November 16, 2010, 07:00:48 am
Muv-Luv Altered Fable comes with a dvd that has the opening videos.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Gundam Ace on November 16, 2010, 06:26:14 pm
someone sort of subbed Songs of Distant Earth:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=97qmMJQ5k78

That would be me.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: herki on November 16, 2010, 10:38:16 pm
someone sort of subbed Songs of Distant Earth:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=97qmMJQ5k78

That would be me.

http://herkz.magpie.feralhosting.com/Muv-Luv%20Unlimited%20ED%20(subbed).mkv

Oh hi I upgraded your video. Also included Ixrec's translation of it that was included in the patch.

edit: updated to fix a few minor timing errors if anyone cares
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Gundam Ace on November 16, 2010, 11:39:33 pm
someone sort of subbed Songs of Distant Earth:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=97qmMJQ5k78

That would be me.

http://herkz.magpie.feralhosting.com/Muv-Luv%20Unlimited%20ED%20(subbed).mkv

Oh hi I upgraded your video. Also included Ixrec's translation of it that was included in the patch.

I tried playing your video, but it doesn't seem to work. Is something wrong with it? Also, what do you mean by upgraded?
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: herki on November 17, 2010, 12:26:34 am
someone sort of subbed Songs of Distant Earth:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=97qmMJQ5k78

That would be me.

http://herkz.magpie.feralhosting.com/Muv-Luv%20Unlimited%20ED%20(subbed).mkv

Oh hi I upgraded your video. Also included Ixrec's translation of it that was included in the patch.

I tried playing your video, but it doesn't seem to work. Is something wrong with it? Also, what do you mean by upgraded?

Nothing wrong with it, use CCCP to play. Though pretty much any codec pack should play it fine. Also, I found the original image you used and also used better audio then I added your subs with better timing + Ixrec's TL as well for a second sub track.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Gundam Ace on November 17, 2010, 01:48:59 am
someone sort of subbed Songs of Distant Earth:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=97qmMJQ5k78

That would be me.

http://herkz.magpie.feralhosting.com/Muv-Luv%20Unlimited%20ED%20(subbed).mkv

Oh hi I upgraded your video. Also included Ixrec's translation of it that was included in the patch.

I tried playing your video, but it doesn't seem to work. Is something wrong with it? Also, what do you mean by upgraded?

Nothing wrong with it, use CCCP to play. Though pretty much any codec pack should play it fine. Also, I found the original image you used and also used better audio then I added your subs with better timing + Ixrec's TL as well for a second sub track.

Oh, I got it now. I just saw it. Excellent job! You certainly did 10x better than I could have possibly done. Thanks for your work.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Belgaesh on November 17, 2010, 07:55:31 am
someone sort of subbed Songs of Distant Earth:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=97qmMJQ5k78

That would be me.

http://herkz.magpie.feralhosting.com/Muv-Luv%20Unlimited%20ED%20(subbed).mkv

Oh hi I upgraded your video. Also included Ixrec's translation of it that was included in the patch.

I tried playing your video, but it doesn't seem to work. Is something wrong with it? Also, what do you mean by upgraded?

Nothing wrong with it, use CCCP to play. Though pretty much any codec pack should play it fine. Also, I found the original image you used and also used better audio then I added your subs with better timing + Ixrec's TL as well for a second sub track.

Oh, I got it now. I just saw it. Excellent job! You certainly did 10x better than I could have possibly done. Thanks for your work.

Great song. I love it in the ending of Unlimited.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Gundam Ace on November 17, 2010, 08:42:34 am
someone sort of subbed Songs of Distant Earth:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=97qmMJQ5k78

That would be me.

http://herkz.magpie.feralhosting.com/Muv-Luv%20Unlimited%20ED%20(subbed).mkv

Oh hi I upgraded your video. Also included Ixrec's translation of it that was included in the patch.

I tried playing your video, but it doesn't seem to work. Is something wrong with it? Also, what do you mean by upgraded?

Nothing wrong with it, use CCCP to play. Though pretty much any codec pack should play it fine. Also, I found the original image you used and also used better audio then I added your subs with better timing + Ixrec's TL as well for a second sub track.

Oh, I got it now. I just saw it. Excellent job! You certainly did 10x better than I could have possibly done. Thanks for your work.

Great song. I love it in the ending of Unlimited.

Same here, that's why I decided to upload it and sub it. Combined with the events of the ending, the song nearly made me cry (something that's only ever happened to me twice before when watching anime/reading a VN), and that was before I even knew the lyrics.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: herki on November 17, 2010, 10:38:36 am
Yeah, that part was really sad ;_;
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: xamlsora on November 18, 2010, 04:36:50 am
One quick question, is Sumika in MLA ? I saw her picture wearing the suit but never find out 'cuz I have not played the game yet and it gonna take a while till I fix my laptop.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Ixrec on November 18, 2010, 08:59:16 am
One quick question, is Sumika in MLA ? I saw her picture wearing the suit but never find out 'cuz I have not played the game yet and it gonna take a while till I fix my laptop.

Well her being in it is kind of a duh because of pictures like that. Anything more than that would be a massive spoiler (seriously, why do people keep asking these kinds of questions? Do they want to be spoiled even more than they already are?)
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: DxS on November 18, 2010, 11:40:11 am
Some people are just desperate for information and don't realize they're better off without it until it's too late.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Sirf*palot on November 18, 2010, 11:42:48 am
Yeah, I know...............I can't believe I've already been exposed to two Sumika spoilers. Fucking AyuMayu Theatre and /jp/. But anyways, listen to Ixrec, Its for your own good. Though I didn't do it out of curiousity though. Some /jp/ dickwad didn't put a spoiler tag and posted a spoilerific CG from the game and I was retarded for watching AyuMayu Theatre without realizing it came out after MLA and would reference MLA plot events.....GAHHH Episode 2.  >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(

Sorry, about all that. I'm still just a little bit annoyed even though its been a week. I think venting helps me forget, probably my currently replaying Muv Luv would help also.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: shinikage on November 18, 2010, 01:05:16 pm
ignorance is a blessing, don't ask anything else, unless it has already happened on the translated patch
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: xamlsora on November 18, 2010, 06:37:39 pm
Thanks guys. I know I know but I can stop my curiosity :)
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: shinikage on November 22, 2010, 06:22:11 pm
Thanks guys. I know I know but I can stop my curiosity :)

sigh.... i guess the spoiler tags club will get another member then
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: fern3887 on November 22, 2010, 08:13:22 pm
Does any of the new Visual novels like altered fable add anything good to the storyline or it would be considered as a spin off? My version does not work, but I only keep it for the BETA vs Senjutsuki game.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: shinikage on November 22, 2010, 10:16:30 pm
altered fable is nothing more than a fandisk, it doesn't add anything to the story.
[spoiler]in fact i am pretty pissed about it since after all the growth he experienced in unlimited takeru goes back to being the same guy from extra[/spoiler]
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Ixrec on November 22, 2010, 10:28:36 pm
Does any of the new Visual novels like altered fable add anything good to the storyline or it would be considered as a spin off? My version does not work, but I only keep it for the BETA vs Senjutsuki game.

As far as I'm aware, Chronicles has some nice side stories but the rest is all pure fandisc. I might read Chronicles in the distant future but really I have no interest in anything past MLA.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Moogy on November 22, 2010, 11:37:23 pm
Total Eclipse is pretty much as close to another Alternative as we're going to get.

And I don't think the stuff in Chronicles (the main stories, at least) should be classified as mere "sidestories" - age is expanding the Muvluv universe by telling other stories set in it, not just the story of what happened with Takeru. The setting has a wonderful amount of potential so I'm really glad they're doing something like this, personally.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: fern3887 on November 24, 2010, 09:35:35 pm
I do have to agree that Total Eclipse looks interesting. I just hope that they end up putting up good storylines. Hopefully they won't water down the amazing setting with the intention to milk the series.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: gabgrave on November 24, 2010, 10:14:35 pm
That would depend on what you like from MLA. TE and other stories are more of TSF and some political war action. Does not have the time/space parallel worlds skipping that makes MLA unique out of other Mecha shows.

Personally, while there is some story and its not bad, it looks like more of a line up for introducing the TSF designs they did not show in MLA. The shear amount of real life planes that can be converted to TSFs are staggering. Still waiting for the A-10 to show up in there though, only seen the design in the C77 Fan Book. A-10 vs BETA FTW!!
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: fern3887 on November 24, 2010, 10:48:55 pm
I am fond of both actually. MLA is a bit more interesting due to the parallel universes, but at least it won't confuse the average person. Too bad it all mostly stays in japan and nothing here in the states.  :(
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Ice on November 25, 2010, 01:58:25 am
That would depend on what you like from MLA. TE and other stories are more of TSF and some political war action. Does not have the time/space parallel worlds skipping that makes MLA unique out of other Mecha shows.

Personally, while there is some story and its not bad, it looks like more of a line up for introducing the TSF designs they did not show in MLA. The shear amount of real life planes that can be converted to TSFs are staggering. Still waiting for the A-10 to show up in there though, only seen the design in the C77 Fan Book. A-10 vs BETA FTW!!
The parallel world stuff is hardly what makes Alternative unique... It's a pretty common plot device.
Anyway the Chronicles stuff has a pretty clear intent to expand the setting; there's no real reason to worry about it being milking.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: fern3887 on November 28, 2010, 12:07:50 am
I hope so, after all there is a lot they can expand into. Wouldn't mind seeing a series based on that, but I doubt that there would be anything like that. Otherwise something would have already been released.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Gore on November 28, 2010, 11:46:24 am
Alternative was amazing, and Altered fable was fun as an extra, plus I wanted to see Kasumi's route & H-scene(which did a very good job of making me ENRAGED after I found out it was that fucking VR machine, go to hell Age).

I'm having a hard time caring about anything after that though. Chronicles has been sitting on my pc for a month and a half now and I just can't bring myself to even start the damn thing.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Ice on November 28, 2010, 11:44:16 pm
I'm having a hard time caring about anything after that though. Chronicles has been sitting on my pc for a month and a half now and I just can't bring myself to even start the damn thing.
The part worth playing of Chronicles 01 (The Day After) is like 4 hours long, and the entirety of it is probably less than 10. While it has a different cast, it still has a similar feel to Alternative and does some very neat things for the series. Honestly what they're doing with Chronicles is a lot more interesting than a direct sequel staring Takeru would be; his story ended with Alternative.

TDA isn't complete yet though, so if you want to wait for the rest of it to come out go ahead.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Gore on November 29, 2010, 09:10:55 pm
I'm having a hard time caring about anything after that though. Chronicles has been sitting on my pc for a month and a half now and I just can't bring myself to even start the damn thing.
The part worth playing of Chronicles 01 (The Day After) is like 4 hours long, and the entirety of it is probably less than 10. While it has a different cast, it still has a similar feel to Alternative and does some very neat things for the series. Honestly what they're doing with Chronicles is a lot more interesting than a direct sequel staring Takeru would be; his story ended with Alternative.

TDA isn't complete yet though, so if you want to wait for the rest of it to come out go ahead.

Isn't complete? So what is it on Chronicles then, just a teaser like TE was on Altered Fable?
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Moogy on November 29, 2010, 11:51:27 pm
The first chapter. TDA is being "serialized" throughout the Chronicles releases.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Gore on December 02, 2010, 02:42:37 pm
Out of curiosity, has Age sent you guys anything? I noticed quite a bit of C&D's on translations going through vndb.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Spin569874123 on December 02, 2010, 04:35:43 pm
Yes, we got a nice letter of congratulations and a few figs and disks of the games, as well as some signed original art.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Shikiller on December 02, 2010, 05:08:19 pm
We did receive a C&D, but we just ignored it.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Ixrec on December 02, 2010, 05:10:39 pm
We did receive a C&D, but we just ignored it.

That looks a little too realistic, so just to be paranoid: that was a troll, no such thing actually happened.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Spin569874123 on December 02, 2010, 05:12:21 pm
The gifts I mentioned wasn't a troll though, just to to be clear.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Shikiller on December 02, 2010, 05:17:37 pm
Ixrec doesn't know about the C&D, we're all keeping it a secret from him.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: AcroRay on December 17, 2010, 11:14:42 am
And let's not forget, a slightly belated happy birthday to our favorite lovely, lovely twins....

http://jilpoong17.egloos.com/4510786
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Moogy on December 17, 2010, 01:54:47 pm
chronicles 2 fucking finally

http://www.age-soft.co.jp/Product/chronicles02/index.html

released "early spring 2011"
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Catastrophe on December 17, 2010, 04:24:27 pm
has anything been heard if someone (group/individual) is going to pick up whats left of muvluv after alternative?
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Ixrec on December 17, 2010, 04:29:23 pm
has anything been heard if someone (group/individual) is going to pick up whats left of muvluv after alternative?

No one's expressed any serious interest that I know of, unless you count LoSs' abandoned attempt to translate the Total Eclipse trial in Altered Fable.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: shinikage on December 17, 2010, 06:03:44 pm
i just noticed that marimo chan is among the cast for this one
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Gore on December 17, 2010, 09:34:43 pm
Anyone else try and see all the dialogue at the resort part of Altered Fable? I remember spending about half a day on it looking for scenes I hadn't seen. Was kinda fun looking for all the flags to specific dialogue. [spoiler]If it weren't for that fucking VR machine I would've enjoyed this game much more.
[/spoiler]

I got my ass kicked in the BETA game too, I can't deal with the Magnus Lux's. If I spend too much time trying to position other BETA between them and me, I end up in a bad position and end up dead. On the other hand if I try advancing on the Lux's, I get taken down, or my forces get split up and overwhelmed(not to mention the time I have to spend trying to get those little spider fucks off of half my forces). If I remember correctly the long range artillery they give you doesn't do shit to them, not even to the little Lux's(but the mounted machine guns work well on them assuming you're in range). On the bright side they die very easily if you get them in range of the gun that Miki uses, I don't remember the name.

I think I had it on hard though so that might be part of the problem.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Ixrec on December 18, 2010, 07:34:28 pm
Felt like teasing you guys with a few non-spoilery screenshots (well okay the third one might count if you're paranoid, but by now you all know what the Valkyries are):

[spoiler]
(http://gyazo.com/08c0ac7312f67e32ba36fd3db26a43aa.png)
(http://gyazo.com/fd2c3f701530ed47b16916930d1450ee.png)
(http://gyazo.com/34097dac8e50d2714359e7277c32485a.png)
(http://gyazo.com/32110739bad064bda68b59c662019dd5.png)
[/spoiler]
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: AcroRay on December 19, 2010, 09:19:53 am
Does anyone know specifically if there are any Muv Luv items or publications planned for release at this month's Comiket?  I expect there probably are, but if I've got some info, I might be able to have a friend fetch a couple for me...
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: shinikage on December 20, 2010, 10:27:57 am
i hope we can see more of Tsukuyomi Maya in another age game
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: AcroRay on December 20, 2010, 11:13:34 am
Don't we see Mana in one of the segments of the AGE 10th anniversary promo?  I thought that was her.  The male voice in the segment sounded a bit like Jouji Gouda...
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Shikiller on December 20, 2010, 09:36:05 pm
Yeah, that was Tsukuyomi, the male voice is an Imperial Royal Guard lieutenant, you hear him a few times in Alternative too, commanding the other Guards.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: shinikage on December 20, 2010, 10:18:36 pm
lets hope it happens
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: chael on December 30, 2010, 10:08:27 am
Hi, just wanted to say thank you to everyone on the team working on the Muv Luv translations.  I know Extra and Unlimited have a bad rap, but I have to say that I enjoyed them both (at least the Meiya/Sumika arcs of Extra, and Meiya's arc in Unlimited).  Although a lot of it is fluff, I found the endings for Meiya and Sumika in Extra pretty bittersweet, considering the rejection that the other must feel.  And I have to say Meiya's ending in Unlimited had me shedding a tear or two

I also want to ask if anyone else has found the soundtrack to Extra/Unlimited surprisingly..good?  I'm a sucker for catchy jpop, so I loved the OP, but I also found almost all of the other background tracks catchy and memorable as well, to the point that I have the whole damn thing on my ipod.  Granted, my experience w/VN's at this point is limited.. I've read fate/stay night, tsukihime, yume miru kusuri, saya no uta, ever 17, muv luv, and am currently in the middle of Sharin no kuni.

so anyway, thanks again to the team for taking on this project.  I'll have to ban myself from these forums for the next 80 days or so, as I've come dangerously close to spoiling Alternative for myself.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: AcroRay on December 30, 2010, 11:05:56 am
Although a lot of it is fluff, I found the endings for Meiya and Sumika in Extra pretty bittersweet, considering the rejection that the other must feel. 

You might be interested to know that the author of the novelizations for Extra supposedly had problems picking between Meiya and Sumika as well, and went back to AGE to come up with a 'special ending'.  Detailed synopsis and notes by Agills here:

http://www.neechin.net/article/72/muvluv-synopsis-project-extra-ending-special

...I thought it sounds like fun! 

You can keep yourself entertained for part of that unspoiled, 80-or-so-days with some of his other ML synopsis.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: AcroRay on December 30, 2010, 12:22:13 pm
Yeah, that was Tsukuyomi, the male voice is an Imperial Royal Guard lieutenant, you hear him a few times in Alternative too, commanding the other Guards.

I had to come back to this...   There's another guy - a male - speaking in Japanese in that segment, who I thought sounded like Jouji.   Also in the final montage of character groups, there's a guy with typical wild dark hair wearing bubble-shades which struck me as a possible Unlimited/Alternative version of Jouji.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Shikiller on December 30, 2010, 03:36:09 pm
It's not Jouji, I already told you, he's an Imperial Royal Guard lieutenant. He commands Tsukuyomi in Alternative during the Sadogashima arc, and shows up again in Haruko Maniax, in Yuuhi's special mini story (you only see his shadow though)

His speech pattern is different from Jouji's too, he uses a Meiya-like one.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: AcroRay on December 30, 2010, 07:36:36 pm
It's not Jouji, I already told you, he's an Imperial Royal Guard lieutenant. He commands Tsukuyomi in Alternative during the Sadogashima arc, and shows up again in Haruko Maniax, in Yuuhi's special mini story (you only see his shadow though)

His speech pattern is different from Jouji's too, he uses a Meiya-like one.

Ah, I thought you were referring to the English-speaking character voicing the segment just before that. (The aren't the same, are they?)

I sure it will be more clear to me when I actually get to play Alternative.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: gabgrave on December 31, 2010, 06:03:45 am
If you are looking for Jouji Gouda, go play Ayu Mayu Alternative... he went there... as expected...

If anything, the shadow LT sounds more like the driver from MLU... except i'm pretty sure he pilots one of the dropships from the final battle...
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Belgaesh on January 01, 2011, 07:59:50 pm
What happened to Takahashi in MLA?
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Moogy on January 01, 2011, 08:04:22 pm
He shows up (well, voice-only) in one scene in chapter 10.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Belgaesh on January 01, 2011, 08:10:44 pm
He shows up (well, voice-only) in one scene in chapter 10.

What the hell, he was the best character of MLE. And it's voiced by Takehito Koyasu from Initial D, so that was from where the pun came from.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Ixrec on January 13, 2011, 02:02:16 pm
Thgouht you should know:

http://amaterasu.is.moelicious.be/blog/?p=818
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: fujifruit on January 13, 2011, 02:44:08 pm
Please oh god don't be JAST.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: shinikage on January 13, 2011, 02:46:20 pm
crap..... i guess that's it

Ok sorry for the first reaction, but after all the time we have been waiting for the second partial to be completed to be suddenly told this. feels the same as having your family jewels kicked while you are in deep sleep, after the pain passed i guess i can only say good luck and thanks for the previous work

i have some questions about this deal that i hope can be answered if possible

1. this mean that in case all goes ok with age your group will become age official representative in America?

2. if the above is a yes will you be selling the official game

3. will you work in another age official game either muvluv series or anything else?

4. will this be the end of the amaterasu group as an free translating group?
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: DxS on January 13, 2011, 04:04:21 pm
Please oh god don't be JAST.

It better be JAST or no physical copies, which would make a lot of people refuse to buy them.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: fujifruit on January 13, 2011, 04:07:29 pm
Please oh god don't be JAST.

It better be JAST or no physical copies, which would make a lot of people refuse to buy them.
Yay "Fully uncensored" bs and deleted cgs!
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: DxS on January 13, 2011, 04:19:55 pm
Please oh god don't be JAST.

It better be JAST or no physical copies, which would make a lot of people refuse to buy them.
Yay "Fully uncensored" bs and deleted cgs!

yea cause they'd defiantly censor all of the 2 H-scenes in the 50 hour game that is alternative.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: fujifruit on January 13, 2011, 04:38:14 pm
Please oh god don't be JAST.

It better be JAST or no physical copies, which would make a lot of people refuse to buy them.
Yay "Fully uncensored" bs and deleted cgs!

yea cause they'd defiantly censor all of the 2 H-scenes in the 50 hour game that is alternative.
Damn right! Now that little loli is 22 years old.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: shinikage on January 13, 2011, 06:17:49 pm
i guess we will have to wait a few months to see what happens......... :-\
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: gabgrave on January 13, 2011, 06:52:15 pm
Well, I was kinda expecting this since age got word of the translations. Put it this way guys, its either cease and desist, or join in.... at least this way we can keep getting the translations, ixrec gets recognized, and we might see more translations of other mla materials in the future.
At least now I got some ideal what the guy at the c79 age booth was talking about.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Belgaesh on January 13, 2011, 07:00:37 pm
Maybe I can hope for a Chronicles translation, even though Ixrec said that he wasn't gonna do more age stuff.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Ixrec on January 13, 2011, 07:02:55 pm
Maybe I can hope for a Chronicles translation, even though Ixrec said that he wasn't go do more age stuff.

Yes, if this succeeds I am much more likely to be willing to do other age stuff than I have been in the past, including ML/MLA spinoffs.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Spin569874123 on January 13, 2011, 07:15:46 pm
You should probably reiterate that the main factor that rendered that decision moot was that you wouldn't have a hacker with enough time and energy to do them, so a translation would have been nearly impossible. Now on the other hand, well, you know.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Belgaesh on January 13, 2011, 07:31:13 pm
Maybe I can hope for a Chronicles translation, even though Ixrec said that he wasn't go do more age stuff.

Yes, if this succeeds I am much more likely to be willing to do other age stuff than I have been in the past, including ML/MLA spinoffs.

That's great news! Now I have another reason for hope that the negotiations go well.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Ixrec on January 13, 2011, 07:34:07 pm
Maybe I can hope for a Chronicles translation, even though Ixrec said that he wasn't go do more age stuff.

Yes, if this succeeds I am much more likely to be willing to do other age stuff than I have been in the past, including ML/MLA spinoffs.

That's great news! Now I have another reason for hope that the negotiations go well.

I'm also planning to use that as a way of coercing you people into buying it.

lol
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: gabgrave on January 13, 2011, 07:34:37 pm
Maybe I can hope for a Chronicles translation, even though Ixrec said that he wasn't go do more age stuff.

Yes, if this succeeds I am much more likely to be willing to do other age stuff than I have been in the past, including ML/MLA spinoffs.

Thats good to hear. Hopefully you might do Altered Fable and Ayu-mayu Alternative as well, to balance the serious theme of MLA and Chronicles.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: KoiNoDensetsu on January 13, 2011, 07:37:36 pm
Such great news! ^.^  Now you can translate all of age's games if MLA sells well! >:D  And if it does, really well, maybe the all-ages versions could be released on disc in some stores (probably not probable, but that would be amazing to see VNs in some stores...  Haven't seen some since Hirameki.).

ohandlol: No post for forever!  KnD is back from the dead (for now)!
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Belgaesh on January 13, 2011, 07:41:32 pm
Maybe I can hope for a Chronicles translation, even though Ixrec said that he wasn't go do more age stuff.

Yes, if this succeeds I am much more likely to be willing to do other age stuff than I have been in the past, including ML/MLA spinoffs.

That's great news! Now I have another reason for hope that the negotiations go well.

I'm also planning to use that as a way of coercing you people into buying it.

lol

Of course I'm gonna buy.

But you haven't even played the spinoffs, have you Ixrec?
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Ixrec on January 13, 2011, 07:47:09 pm
Maybe I can hope for a Chronicles translation, even though Ixrec said that he wasn't go do more age stuff.

Yes, if this succeeds I am much more likely to be willing to do other age stuff than I have been in the past, including ML/MLA spinoffs.

That's great news! Now I have another reason for hope that the negotiations go well.

I'm also planning to use that as a way of coercing you people into buying it.

lol

Of course I'm gonna buy.

But you haven't even played the spinoffs, have you Ixrec?

Not yet.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Moogy on January 13, 2011, 07:47:37 pm
KnD is back from the dead (for now)!
you should have remained there ;_;
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Belgaesh on January 13, 2011, 07:49:13 pm
Maybe I can hope for a Chronicles translation, even though Ixrec said that he wasn't go do more age stuff.

Yes, if this succeeds I am much more likely to be willing to do other age stuff than I have been in the past, including ML/MLA spinoffs.

That's great news! Now I have another reason for hope that the negotiations go well.

I'm also planning to use that as a way of coercing you people into buying it.

lol

Of course I'm gonna buy.

But you haven't even played the spinoffs, have you Ixrec?

Not yet.

Thats not reassuring. You don't know if you're gonna like translating them.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Ixrec on January 13, 2011, 07:50:49 pm
Maybe I can hope for a Chronicles translation, even though Ixrec said that he wasn't go do more age stuff.

Yes, if this succeeds I am much more likely to be willing to do other age stuff than I have been in the past, including ML/MLA spinoffs.

That's great news! Now I have another reason for hope that the negotiations go well.

I'm also planning to use that as a way of coercing you people into buying it.

lol

Of course I'm gonna buy.

But you haven't even played the spinoffs, have you Ixrec?

Not yet.

Thats not reassuring. You don't know if you're gonna like translating them.

I'll read them if MLA succeeds so I'll be ready when the question comes up.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Belgaesh on January 13, 2011, 07:54:18 pm
Maybe I can hope for a Chronicles translation, even though Ixrec said that he wasn't go do more age stuff.

Yes, if this succeeds I am much more likely to be willing to do other age stuff than I have been in the past, including ML/MLA spinoffs.

That's great news! Now I have another reason for hope that the negotiations go well.

I'm also planning to use that as a way of coercing you people into buying it.

lol

Of course I'm gonna buy.

But you haven't even played the spinoffs, have you Ixrec?

Not yet.

Thats not reassuring. You don't know if you're gonna like translating them.

I'll read them if MLA succeeds so I'll be ready when the question comes up.

I hope that the question isn't needed.

But thanks for answering my questions.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: izmosmolnar on January 13, 2011, 07:57:47 pm
At least now I got some ideal what the guy at the c79 age booth was talking about.
Enlighten me please.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: gabgrave on January 13, 2011, 08:06:44 pm
At least now I got some ideal what the guy at the c79 age booth was talking about.
Enlighten me please.

He was saying something about being more open with the international community, expending on the MLA/MLU universe, and they are aware of the translation project. Nothing ground breaking, but scared me a little when he said he knew bout the translation project. Normally that leads to a CnD order, but the news is good this time round. Didn't speak much cause of the queue, and it was not a age exclusive booth. He was one of the age reps though.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: AcroRay on January 13, 2011, 09:14:10 pm
I have to say, I'm really happy to see that an official release is a possibility, with a dedicated staff of translators aboard.  Something I never thought we'd see.

While I'd love to have a physical edition of the game, given the economics of the current import publishing industry, an e-publication wouldn't make me cry.  Hell, I've already got packaging sleeve scans on file already...

Bravo!  Now to tuck some cash aside.  I expect it'll be a pretty expensive package!
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Kiru on January 18, 2011, 06:05:34 am
I still haven't written about this whole "talking with age" stuff, so I guess it's about time I do some rambling. (I haven't really read much about this stuff, so sorry if I repeat points others have said already..)

MLA is one of those VN which basically everyone likes. (Of course there should be exceptions but whatever, that's not the point here) So the idea of trying to sell it... why not.
But I think MLA isn't a VN that would do really well in the western market.

-Mediocre/bad art, depending on who you ask. Sure it's not the newest VN (03 ML, 06 MLA) but that's just an excuse. It has a lot of special effects and stuff going on, but I doubt that's something most people in the west (and unrelated to VN) would find good or even something special. It most likely can't compare to normal animation you'll find in video-games, so yeah.
Also if the OST is like in MLE then there's much better out there as well... but I don't know about that.

-MLE/MLU are required to fully enjoy MLA and I can't think of any better anti-advertising. At best MLE/MLU are simply "good", but definitely nothing special. At worst it's so bad you want to be paid for reading it. (Well, at least MLE..)

The second point is imo a much much bigger factor than the first. While questions like "which do I need to play first" are fairly common, expect people to jump directly to MLA without any knowledge about MLE/MLU anyway. Also expect people to never get to MLA because MLE sucks too much. (Even if everyone says MLA is awesome. Come to think of it that just might be the cause. Those who would dislike MLA never played it because of MLE/MLU. Well, probably not.)
Also when selling MLA you need to have some sort of demo for it. Obviously a MLA demo is a bad idea, because you need MLE/MLU knowledge before. A demo from MLE won't net you much interest, even giving away MLE/MLU for free, as well as the first arc of MLA (the patches already released) might not be sufficient. But I think it would probably be the best idea. The patches are around anyway.

MLE/MLU is a BIG hurdle to take and it might just be too big. Sure, you'll reach those who are already VN-fans, those who purchase VN anyway. Since MLA is apparently really good, you'll probably reach most of them. But I'm not sure if it can do more.

To name a similar VN which would probably be better for that: Baldr Sky. Part2 isn't as good as MLA, but at least part1 is no MLE. (I think that should be the general consensus about the story) It even has gameplay, which might be better for the west as well. And I think the art is much better, though you might think differently about that one.
That's however not taking into account what Giga thinks about it. As far as I know Age at least seems to have some interest in the west. (I think there was an artist from them on some convention in America last year... or something) Also a TL for free is a plus as well.

All that rambling aside: Good luck. I'm personally not interested in the game MLA itself (MLE did a good job at not making me interested so far), but I'm definitely interested in seeing how MLA fares if Age really tries to sell it here.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: AcroRay on January 18, 2011, 08:29:10 am
Does the fact that there's a fairly sizeable chunk of giant robot hobby kit & robot figure merchandising come into play?  Does that factor into the marketability of the ML VNs, or do the VNs act as marketing support for the robot kit products?

It reminds me a bit of the 1980s, when plastic mecha kits were all the rage, were available far more easily than the media they stemmed from, and some shows were brought over in support of the merchandising range, rather than vice-versa.  [Robotech property as a case in point.]  "We want to sell a line of robot toys, so lets come up with a show" was the motivation for many of the classic mecha-opera anime that I've felt were the inspiration for MLA.

If only the mecha hobby items weren't so darn expensive.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Ice on January 18, 2011, 03:44:35 pm
If you actually bothered to play Extra, you basically have no reason not to play the rest of the series. (Hint: You don't actually have to play Extra for more than an hour or two.)
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: DxS on January 18, 2011, 05:50:30 pm
If you actually bothered to play Extra, you basically have no reason not to play the rest of the series. (Hint: You don't actually have to play Extra for more than an hour or two.)

Makes me fell bad for actually playing all the routes in extra @[email protected]
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: shinikage on January 18, 2011, 10:51:25 pm
you aren't the only one man
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Ixrec on January 18, 2011, 11:45:14 pm
Better late than never.

@Kiru:

Basically, I'm not targeting Westerners in general with this. All I'm asking is for you guys and /jp/ and whoever else reads my translations to buy an official English copy of something and prove that there is in fact a market. Most of what you said in your post either does not apply or is at least far less of an issue if we restrict our attention to those who are already VN fans. If that isn't enough, then we instead prove there is no market and we get a moral blank check to not bother talking to companies for the next few years.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Kiru on January 19, 2011, 03:12:07 am
Better late than never.

@Kiru:

Basically, I'm not targeting Westerners in general with this. All I'm asking is for you guys and /jp/ and whoever else reads my translations to buy an official English copy of something and prove that there is in fact a market. Most of what you said in your post either does not apply or is at least far less of an issue if we restrict our attention to those who are already VN fans. If that isn't enough, then we instead prove there is no market and we get a moral blank check to not bother talking to companies for the next few years.

Yes it's true, but I think there's still room to get new people into VN. (It's just hard with Muv-luv) E17 and 999 do pretty good jobs, but we really need something awesome that is NOT all-ages. Sure there's Fate, but well... I think it has done what it could and was definitely some factor of the "recent" growth of the VN-community. (Around 2008-2009)

If you only want to target /jp/ and VN-fans then MLA should be ok, although the MLE/MLU problem still exists, but has much less weight. (Or even none, because there are probably SOME people who fall in love with MLA that much that they force all their friends through MLE/MLU to also read MLA and hopefully buy it)
I mean, unlike Koihime Musou, which has some nice "anti-advertising" with its anime as well, MLA is able to really blow away its reader.

Hm, well, I'm really interested in how this one goes.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: HakumeiJin on January 19, 2011, 10:13:55 am
Well since your reasons seem pretty sound I'll choose to trust you about this being important. Also while this may be a little early since you don't even know how it'll be sold yet, have you thought about linking wherever it will be sold from here and getting a small amount of money from that? While you don't seem to want to make things harder by wanting money for translation, I personally would prefer actually giving you something for it as well if your translation was sold as official.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: gabgrave on January 22, 2011, 09:44:04 pm
Looks like more muvluvalt goodness... does this mean more things to be expected? (Animeanimeanime!!!)

http://mecha-guy.blogspot.com/2011/01/revoltech-muv-luv-series-announced.html
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: fern3887 on February 01, 2011, 02:53:42 am
That would be nice :D
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Darkian on February 01, 2011, 08:08:12 am
i wonder will the company actually make a localized game. and what will you do with your translation if there will be no english version for another X years... (hello to demonbane)

PS seems like no other options left but boil my brain with chiitrans and atlas T_T
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: fujifruit on February 01, 2011, 03:02:31 pm
Edit: wrong thread >->
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: AcroRay on February 01, 2011, 08:13:00 pm
New MUV LUV thing, following Total Eclipse: SCHWARZESMARKEN

http://schwarzesmarken.jp/index.html

Character designs by doujin artist "Carnelian".  Running in Tech Gian's March issue.  Anyone got scans...?
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Moogy on February 01, 2011, 11:29:57 pm
carnelian isn't a "doujin artist," she's the ludicrously popular artist responsible for root's games (yamibou, touka gettan, para-sol)
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Kiru on February 02, 2011, 06:46:48 am
Ah god, what's with all this gracious German... that word kinda reminds me of fate/stay night.

I have no idea what they have thought this word means. (probably black signs or something) But the girl looks cute. It's good to know, those "ugly" designs from MLE/MLU/MLA are gone by now. :) No more killerhair. Well, names don't matter anyway, although I still like some SRW mecha-names like "Wildschwein". (boar) :D
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: AcroRay on February 02, 2011, 06:51:13 am
Ah, so Carnelian's presence as the artist on "Black Marks" (how I read the title) is a rather significant coup for the property?

I have say I'm completely unfamiliar with any of her work prior to this, but the name did ring familiar.

Quite the group of misfits in this unit.  German Democratic Republic unit, with a couple of Polish members as well.  Looks like fun..!

(Heh heh - "Black Sheep Squadron"....)
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: gabgrave on February 02, 2011, 08:38:46 am
looks like the plots goes back 18 years before MLA, during the time when TSFs were first rolled out. Can someone confirm this?
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: fujifruit on February 02, 2011, 09:09:42 am
carnelian isn't a "doujin artist," she's the ludicrously popular artist responsible for root's games (yamibou, touka gettan, para-sol)
I'm pretty sure she has some doujin works >_> Like most artist
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: AcroRay on February 02, 2011, 09:23:58 am
looks like the plots goes back 18 years before MLA, during the time when TSFs were first rolled out. Can someone confirm this?

My Google translation suggested the same, but all of the translations were a bit difficult to follow.  In the MLA universe, when did the Berlin Wall fall - if at all - and what is the status of the Soviet Union at the time of MLA's events?

I like the TSFs they're showing.  Very coarse and brutal looking.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: HithertoAnIPAddress on February 02, 2011, 11:30:03 am
looks like the plots goes back 18 years before MLA, during the time when TSFs were first rolled out. Can someone confirm this?
My Google translation suggested the same, but all of the translations were a bit difficult to follow. 
Schwarzesmarken's official site shows a map of the BETA hives as they stood in 1983, so I guess that supports the 1983 date. (MLU/MLA took place in 2001 right?)
Quote
In the MLA universe, when did the Berlin Wall fall - if at all - and what is the status of the Soviet Union at the time of MLA's events?
Spoiler for Total Eclipse:
[spoiler]
The Soviet Union is still there, but reduced to the extreme northeast of Siberia. Their government ended up having to flee to Alaska. And I don't think the Berlin Wall fell at all - except to the BETA, that is.
[/spoiler]
Quote
I like the TSFs they're showing.  Very coarse and brutal looking.
Found something interesting -- the MiG-21 is just an F-4 modified and produced under license (similar to Japan's Gekishin).
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Moogy on February 02, 2011, 11:55:59 am
Schwarzesmarken takes place in 1983 in East Germany, apparently the front defense line against the BETA in Europe at the time. The title refers to the elite 666th Senjutsuki Battalion, 黒の宣告 (something like "Black Proclamation"), who get ordered to break through the enemy lines and take out Laser-Class Betas with just 8 machines, which seems to be where the story begins.

Ask me if there's anything else specific you're curious about, I don't really care to translate/summarize the whole site.

Also, Katia (the girl with chestnut hair and the ponytail) is really cute :)

Not a big fan of these uniforms, though, I have to say - though it is rather hard to be classier than the UN's. I guess they fit the situation and time period, at least.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Kiru on February 02, 2011, 12:51:25 pm
Schwarzesmarken takes place in 1983 in East Germany, apparently the front defense line against the BETA in Europe at the time. The title refers to the elite 666th Senjutsuki Battalion, 黒の宣告 (something like "Black Proclamation"), who get ordered to break through the enemy lines and take out Laser-Class Betas with just 8 machines, which seems to be where the story begins.

I thought about it again and I think I know what went wrong with their title. The correct one is probably "schwarzes markieren". Why:
[spoiler=german explanation of the name]"Schwarzes" can be used together with a normal verb, but not with a noun. If "marken" would be "labels/marks", then "Schwarzes" would be wrong.
However, the standard form of verbs end on "-en", even though the wanted verb probably is "markieren" which means "to mark sth./ to assign/ to select/ to pretend/ to fake/ to designate/ to brand..".
That mistake would be "normal" as you might think the verb is "marken".[/spoiler]

It has not much to do with a "black proclamation", but a simple dictionary gives lots of fitting words for 宣告 and I doubt they screw it up THAT hard. In other words: The title is some metaphor. It probably makes sense at some point... black/dark marking/faking/assigning/whatever.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: HithertoAnIPAddress on February 02, 2011, 02:23:53 pm
Seems that there were only 8 BETA hives back in '83, not counting the Canadian one which America nuked to oblivion. From the map on the official site:

01: Kashgar, China (Original Hive)
02: Mashhad, Iran
03: Uralsk, SU/Kazakhstan
04: Velsk, SU/Russia
05: Minsk, SU/Belarus
06: Ekibastuz, SU/Kazakhstan
07: Surgut, SU/Russia
08: Rovaniemi, Finland
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: AcroRay on February 02, 2011, 10:19:44 pm
It has not much to do with a "black proclamation", but a simple dictionary gives lots of fitting words for 宣告 and I doubt they screw it up THAT hard. In other words: The title is some metaphor. It probably makes sense at some point... black/dark marking/faking/assigning/whatever.

Based on their character descriptions, the individual unit members seem to have a lot of... issues.  I get the impression they're a bunch of misfits or embarrassments even though they're otherwise skilled soldiers, and have been given something of a suicide mission to put them to productive use or get rid of them.  They're 'black sheep', or have 'black marks' on their records.  That's the cultural concept, I suspect.

Moogy, do you get anything implying that from reading over the material?
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: shinikage on February 03, 2011, 11:54:03 am
i was checking the chronicles 02 website and noticed that the U.S major for the American team from the coup arc in muvluv alternative was added to the character line up. also checking some of the new screen shots i found a quite interesting(disturbing) one
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: AcroRay on February 03, 2011, 03:03:08 pm
Eeeewww!   :o     [spoiler]Alternative Silent Hill in the Muv Luv Alternative world![/spoiler]
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: shinikage on February 04, 2011, 06:58:02 pm
[spoiler]lets hope there isn't any beta pyramid-head[/spoiler]
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: AcroRay on March 14, 2011, 04:48:08 pm
So, Muv Luv Extra, Unlimited and Alternative on XBox 360, eh?   :o  According to this month's FAMITSU, apparently:

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-jCYkxFD2ZDw/TXeBvdN_49I/AAAAAAAAFzU/ttBAF9BC7yw/s1600/muv.jpg)

Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Moogy on March 15, 2011, 02:34:03 am
the site: http://5pb.jp/games/muvluv/

unfortunately there are no extras announced that would actually make them worth buying at the moment, the art isn't redone either

if there are no significant changes or additions, then the 18+ version of alternative will still remain the definitive version, sigh
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: JONJONAUG on March 23, 2011, 02:47:22 am
http://twitter.com/#!/Ixrec/status/49597777180766208 (http://twitter.com/#!/Ixrec/status/49597777180766208)

Oh hey, congrats.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: coldness on March 29, 2011, 09:02:10 am
What is with this whole Leaked Release fiasco?
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Tsugumi on March 29, 2011, 04:50:59 pm
What is with this whole Leaked Release fiasco?
I would assume that someone leaked the full patch.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: coldness on March 29, 2011, 07:20:04 pm
Indeed. You are correct. I meant, what is the story behind this leak?
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: shinikage on March 30, 2011, 12:04:53 am
can someone please tell me what happened?
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: chael on April 16, 2011, 02:11:54 pm
Well, human nature being what it is, I couldn't resist and played MLA.  Since it had been awhile, I did a complete run through of MLE/U then MLA to try to get as much of the full experience as possible.  Somehow I managed to keep myself mostly unspoiled as to some of the key events.  I really allowed myself to get sucked in, and found myself more emotionally moved than I think any other piece of media I've ever seen..

While I was playing, I tried not to nit pick about details, and whether things were making sense (in terms of in-world internal consistency).  Now that the emotions have died down somewhat though, there are just a few things that bother me (lengthy, lengthy..would be surprised if anyone bothers to read the whole thing):

[spoiler]
1.  (warning: rant) probably the biggest is the ending, which numerous others have commented on in both this and other forums.  I *hate* reset endings in almost any format, and agree with those who think it cheapens what everyone went through to have Takeru just forget about it all and live happily ever after.  To think of all the suffering that Meiya went through (she became my fave during unlimited)..and her *only* wish at the end of it all was "if you remember that Mitsurugi Meiya lived in this world...then I can be happy" (paraphrased), and what does Takeru do?  immediately goes and forgets everything she did for him.. arrggh its frustrating to even type it.  I know that Takeru probably has those latent memories hidden in his subconscious, and I havn't read Altered Fable myself, but nothing I've read about it gives any indication that he becomes conscious of those memories

Not to mention that it goes against the entire theme of the VN, which is to face your problems and responsibilities head-on and not run from them.   I just get the sense that the writers were aiming for something complete different, but some execs from age looked at it and told them "you know, this thing is too depressing, so make it have a cheerful Disney ending where every single person gets to be happy".  Takeru even said at one point that when he goes back to his world, he planned to tell Extra Sumika about his experiences and MLA Sumika.. It would have been more sombre, but would have had a much greater impact for me, to know that all of the lessons and growth that Takeru experienced in MLA, by fighting and watching others die, wouldn't be just jammed down into his subconscious never to be heard from again.
    Not to mention, its strains the limits of the worlds internal consistency to give sumika essentially god-like power at the end to re-arrange the world as she sees fit.

2.  Another minor quibble is..the Alternative IV plan itself.  Yuuko is convinced that simply completing the 00unit will ensure humanities survival, but...why is she so sure?  Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but the idea is that even though there are already humans from AltIII who can read and project to the Beta, its not good enough because humans are not perceived as life forms.  Therefore Yuuko wants to transfer someone's consciousness to a quantum computer with the vague hope that the Beta will recognize it as a life form..and then what exactly?  *Maybe* get some info from the Beta?  *Maybe* communicate with them and convince them that humans are life forms?  Seems like a lot of "maybe's" for a plan that suppossedly will ensure humanities survival.  It certainly is *not* a plan designed to eliminate the presence of Beta from the earth, after all, the whole Susano'o thing was just an afterthought according to Yuuko.  It certainly helped that they hit the jackpot with the data on all the hives after Sadogashima, but A) Yuuko couldn't have known ahead of time that they would get that kind of useful info and B) it still wouldn't guarantee victory without the Susano'o. 

3.  as much as i'm a fan of tentacle rape (note: sarcasm), that one scene really broke the whole mood of the VN.  as multiple others have said, so no need to elaborate further except to speculate that it may have been a scene forced on the writers (for incomprehensible reasons).  The reason I say that is that the speech fragements and sounds that Sumika makes when she goes into freak out mode really gave me the impression that she was flashing back to being dismembered while alive and in horrible agony, not flashing back to memories of sexual ecstasy.  anyway, just speculation.  and although it would have turned a lot of people off, would have preferred to see another gore scene a la Marimo, which would have made a much bigger emotional impact.    [/spoiler]

sorry about the length of this, but I've invested a lot of time and emotional energy into this game, and don't really have many options of discussing it with anyone.  Finally, a big thanks to Ixrec and the team for all your hard work.  If it ever does see an official release, I'll be one of those who buys.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: kViN on April 16, 2011, 02:57:46 pm
I was going to read your rant but you called the ending a reset end and that's retarded so I won't bother. Have a nice day!
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Moogy on April 16, 2011, 04:31:37 pm
Considering the main writer and director of Alternative is also the head executive at age, you can rest assured that no part of the game's plot was a result of pressure from higher ups to do something a certain way.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: chael on April 16, 2011, 04:55:30 pm
Considering the main writer and director of Alternative is also the head executive at age, you can rest assured that no part of the game's plot was a result of pressure from higher ups to do something a certain way.

ah ok.  well, as i said, it was just baseless speculation on my part, trying to give them the benefit of the doubt
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: chael on April 16, 2011, 07:51:13 pm
I was going to read your rant but you called the ending a reset end and that's retarded so I won't bother. Have a nice day!

[spoiler]  Sorry for the confusing terminology - I should have used the other word for when the main character goes back in time to the start of all the events and has no memory of what happened before.

Sarcasm aside, I was speaking of resets in general terms;  the rest of my post made it clear that I understand the nuances of what was taking place at the end, and how it may differ from your strict definition of the term.  Hope you have a great day as well.    [/spoiler]
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: AcroRay on April 19, 2011, 05:56:39 pm
FYI - there have been some updates to the XBox360 Muv Luv website - new graphics, blog entries, etc:

http://5pb.jp/games/muvluv/
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: shinikage on April 21, 2011, 11:19:45 am
seeing as how the cg option is still locked, i am starting to wonder if they plan to remake it for the 360 instead of just adapting the original ones
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: AcroRay on April 23, 2011, 01:59:32 pm
If I unerstand the site's blog correctly, there will be some additions or improvements by Nitro+ in the art content.  No idea if that means a wholesale revision of the game's art, though.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Moogy on April 23, 2011, 03:48:25 pm
Um, I don't see anything about Nitro+ or redoing the art on the blog anywhere, where exactly are you looking
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: AcroRay on April 23, 2011, 05:51:10 pm
You know, I do have to totally retract that.  I think I just misunderstood a bablefish translation regarding the company's work with Nitro+ on other  games.  :-/
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Sekai~ on May 03, 2011, 03:25:40 pm
I was wondering if you guys were going to do altered fable after alternative.....
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Ixrec on May 03, 2011, 05:28:09 pm
I was wondering if you guys were going to do altered fable after alternative.....

No.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Cyrax on May 03, 2011, 06:19:45 pm
I was wondering if you guys were going to do altered fable after alternative.....

No.

I remember it being posted somewhere saying you guys wouldn't do anymore muv-luv stuff. I don't recall the reason, but I do not really care too much. But I do recall there also being a suggestion page for what people would like translated. It that one still up?
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Ixrec on May 03, 2011, 06:37:20 pm
I was wondering if you guys were going to do altered fable after alternative.....

No.

I remember it being posted somewhere saying you guys wouldn't do anymore muv-luv stuff. I don't recall the reason, but I do not really care too much. But I do recall there also being a suggestion page for what people would like translated. It that one still up?

The reason is I don't care about any of the other ML games, lol. That's basically the reason for everything we do and don't choose to work on.

That page is not up in the sense that it was meant for "the next game", which was then decided and has since been done. At the moment there is no new page up because we already internally decided the next few things we want to do.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Cyrax on May 03, 2011, 06:50:00 pm
I was wondering if you guys were going to do altered fable after alternative.....

No.

I remember it being posted somewhere saying you guys wouldn't do anymore muv-luv stuff. I don't recall the reason, but I do not really care too much. But I do recall there also being a suggestion page for what people would like translated. It that one still up?

The reason is I don't care about any of the other ML games, lol. That's basically the reason for everything we do and don't choose to work on.

That page is not up in the sense that it was meant for "the next game", which was then decided and has since been done. At the moment there is no new page up because we already internally decided the next few things we want to do.

I figured as much, as well wanting to do others as well. Hopefully one day I will be able to read without translators or perhaps work on one myself, but the studies are complicated for me.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: timetricker on May 09, 2011, 09:46:24 am
I was wondering if you guys were going to do altered fable after alternative.....

No.

I remember it being posted somewhere saying you guys wouldn't do anymore muv-luv stuff. I don't recall the reason, but I do not really care too much. But I do recall there also being a suggestion page for what people would like translated. It that one still up?

The reason is I don't care about any of the other ML games, lol. That's basically the reason for everything we do and don't choose to work on.

That page is not up in the sense that it was meant for "the next game", which was then decided and has since been done. At the moment there is no new page up because we already internally decided the next few things we want to do.

Too bad, I really waiting for Alternative Chronicles series
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: zees on May 11, 2011, 09:00:43 pm
Altered Fables setting is in a world separate from the original that extra took place in right? Being the result of Alternatives end?

Any Mitsuki/Haruka/Akane 'scenes'/branches or is it just the standard heroines?
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Hayate on May 12, 2011, 10:57:12 pm
Altered Fables setting is in a world separate from the original that extra took place in right? Being the result of Alternatives end?

Any Mitsuki/Haruka/Akane 'scenes'/branches or is it just the standard heroines?

No, just the standard heroines (including Kasumi, Marimo, and Kashiwagi). age is rather keen with keeping their heroines within the boundaries of their respective protagonists (since the ones you listed are originally from KimiNozo, they don't want them to 'scenes' with anyone else as they're associated with Takayuki)

Oh, and quick question; How is http://vndb.org/v1743 related to MLA? I noticed the little Same Setting tab, and curiosity got the better of me, though I'm not willing to play the game just to find out as I'm not interested in the game's original content itself.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: HashiriyaR32 on May 13, 2011, 06:50:39 am
It's revealed at some point during the game that it's set in the same alternate timeline as Unlimited/Alternative, but that's the only connection this game has to the Muv-Luv series.  Otherwise it's just a standard eroge.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: zees on May 13, 2011, 09:29:31 am
Thanks Hay.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Überzaki on May 17, 2011, 10:35:20 am
Perhaps a leap of logic but can we treat Bamboo's post as a confirmation that Mangagamer will be the publisher of Muv-luv?

http://mangagamer.blackss.org/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=1009 (http://mangagamer.blackss.org/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=1009) if you haven't read it
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Ixrec on May 17, 2011, 11:08:05 am
Perhaps a leap of logic but can we treat Bamboo's post as a confirmation that Mangagamer will be the publisher of Muv-luv?

http://mangagamer.blackss.org/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=1009 (http://mangagamer.blackss.org/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=1009) if you haven't read it

It confirms that Mangagamer was talking to age about muvluv but it says absolutely nothing explicitly about whether they can or cannot or will or will not get a license deal for muvluv. No leaping please.

Though some of what he said could be used to guess.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Marche90 on May 20, 2011, 12:20:39 am
Since people that like videogames can wait for long periods of time for a game to be released, I don't see how a lot of the people I see here can't wait for a few months for a response.  Sure, it might be maddening, but, what can we do? Compare it to wait for the anime of a series you really want, but don't know if it will be announced at some point, if at all...
Long story short, just wait, there's nothing you can do about it, just to be patient.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: kViN on May 20, 2011, 04:56:43 am
Since people that like videogames can wait for long periods of time for a game to be released, I don't see how a lot of the people I see here can't wait for a few months for a response.  Sure, it might be maddening, but, what can we do? Compare it to wait for the anime of a series you really want, but don't know if it will be announced at some point, if at all...
Long story short, just wait, there's nothing you can do about it, just to be patient.

Good comparison. It'll be released after FMP4. Maybe.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: shinikage on June 24, 2011, 06:52:56 pm
has anyone played chronicles 02 already?
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: AcroRay on July 03, 2011, 07:29:33 am
A new bit of content popped up at the 5pb Muv Luv xBox 360 website:  At this summer's WonderFest, the companies involved in Muv Luv will be launching "Muv Luv: OPERATION PHOENIX" as a fund raiser for Japanese earthquake reconstruction.  If I'm understanding correctly, there may be exclusive product/content related to Operation Phoenix from the various Muv Luv product vendors and website, or they will be decorated with the Operation Phoenix logo.

http://blog.5pb.jp/muvluv/archives/71

(http://kiminozo-radio.jp/operation-phoenix/img/oplogol.gif)
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: AcroRay on July 24, 2011, 09:24:29 am
Total Eclipse on the way to TV in 2012:

Courtesy of ANN

"Muv-Luv Alternative: Total Eclipse Novel Gets TV Anime"
http://4NN.cx/67069

" A teaser website announced on Sunday that a television anime adaptation of the Muv-Luv Alternative: Total Eclipse novel will run in 2012. The novel itself is spinoff of the 2006 romance simulation game Muv-Luv Alternative from the adult game company âge.

The novel has been running in Enterbrain's Tech Gian magazine since 2007, and it already inspired a manga adaptation by Takashi Ishigaki in ASCII Media Works' Monthly Comic Dengeki Daioh magazine in 2009.

Thanks to Cloud668 for the news tip
"
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Ixrec on September 05, 2011, 09:41:07 pm
Blog commenter asked for the MLA scripts, so here they are:

http://www.mediafire.com/?f55z89x22gb4xmj
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: infornography on September 21, 2011, 04:54:09 pm
Hi guys, I'm kinda late to the party but I just finished playing Muv-Luv alternative. I'll be honest, I downloaded the iso and played it through and through. But I love the game and I'm trying my DAMNDEST to buy the originals. I just spent a small fortune buying Muv-Luv DVD ( with Extra and Unlimited ) and Muv-Luv Altered Fable but I'm haivng no luck finding Muv-Luv Alternative ( not the all-ages version. ) Does anyone know of a reputable place I can buy Alternative from? Or even better, if anyone has a second copy or doesn't want their copy anymore anyone willing to sell it?  I love the series and I really want to support Age. Thanks again guys. Oh and big thanks to Ixrec for translating MuvLuv. I'm using your japanese guide to naild down grammar.

Oh and obligatory first post.

Tl;dr = Want to buy MuvLuv alternative but can't find a reputable japanese site to buy it.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Sheeta on September 21, 2011, 05:56:51 pm
This might help you: http://www.reikon.org/2009/10/02/shopping-guide-where-and-how-to-buy-things-from-japan/ (http://www.reikon.org/2009/10/02/shopping-guide-where-and-how-to-buy-things-from-japan/)

It includes a section on eroge and how to get around websites that don't ship worldwide.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: infornography on September 21, 2011, 06:06:52 pm
Wow, i went straight for getchu and didn't even remember I could order from amazon japan. Thanks! Haha I knew alternative would be the most expensive one but, 25,000 yen for it new? WOW. Oh well, this is the price of fandom.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Ixrec on September 21, 2011, 06:32:00 pm
I wish there was a way to get it for a reasonable price so that we could tell people on the download page to start buying it in droves.

;_;
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Sheeta on September 21, 2011, 06:49:58 pm
Buying stuff in yen's pretty good if you use British pounds, ehehe~
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: infornography on September 21, 2011, 11:15:36 pm
I wish there was a way to get it for a reasonable price so that we could tell people on the download page to start buying it in droves.

;_;

I dunno. Call it wishful thinking but, When you play a visual novel that good, or watch anything that well made, you should be compelled to by it.  You can tell that the people who worked on it were really proud of what they were doing. I mean, the dialogue was really detailed ( sometimes too detailed.. ) and the interactions never seemed forced so you can kinda tell that they really knew what they were doing. It's hard to not wanna reward their efforts and buy it. To be honest, I'm also considering buying the XBOX360 version just to support age. I met the character designer / illustrator at AX awhile back at the mangagamer booth and thanks to him I got a sketch of Meiya and Sumika and you can tell he was proud of the characters. Just to be clear, I'm not made of money, but I do want to support the industry in any way I can. Hopefully if there's enough people doing what I'm doing, Age will release MuvLuv ( including Altered Fable! ) here Uncensored.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: kidlat020 on September 23, 2011, 12:17:30 pm
While I do understand where you're coming from... well, customs, taxes, shipping and possible smuggling shits are, well, shit.

And if you've been in the VN scene for quite a while, you probably know some of those needless "dramas". I'll stop there so search it on your own. Clue: Xenophobia

anyway, congrats on your purchase.

Buying stuff in yen's pretty good if you use British pounds, ehehe~

The difference in my currency's purchasing power is showing its ugly side. I so hate this place where I live.  ヘルプミ~
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Moogy on September 23, 2011, 03:34:21 pm
things in japan cost a lot because of xenophobia, now that's a new one
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Ixrec on September 23, 2011, 03:58:17 pm
things in japan cost a lot because of xenophobia, now that's a new one

He's saying xenophobia causes various dramas. I think.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: kidlat020 on September 23, 2011, 04:06:42 pm
partly correct. xenophobia was one of those dramas. I did said it was a clue, but now it's no longer a clue but more of an answer in itself.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: DerWille on October 10, 2011, 08:40:16 am
 Thank you for translating this series. I really appreciate how you went out of your way to translate MLE and MLU despite your distaste for them.

 I thought I'd share my thoughts on these. Partially to respect the staff by sharing my enjoyment for their work (and age's) and because I've wanted to but my friends are probably sick of hearing me talk about this (they're not into VN's). Spoilers ahoy!

[spoiler]

MLE

 Going into this I kind knew the basic premise of time loops, alternate worlds, and a war torn world but that's about it. Almost immediately I saw  how this game was suppose to be a contrast to later ones and thought that it honestly should have stuck to being a slap-stick comedy high school slice of life romance. I also had a hunch that it would be the more important of MLE and MLU (I think I was right)

 The story started to fall apart with the difference between commoners and the elites. In particular, the Lacrosse game was painful. The game does pick up the end with a little bit of decent drama (Meiya's burden) but then immediately tumbles back down with the whole "Choose her and I'll never see you again!" shenanigans. I'm sorry, but people get over it. Sure, don't parade the new girlfriend in front of the other for awhile, but it's not like they couldn't meet each other ever again (Well, choosing Meiya is more likely for this. If Takeru chooses Sumika it's likely they'd never have the ability to even meet her).

 I only played Meiya's and Sumika's routes. Between the two girls, I like Meiya more, but Sumika's ending is better executed. The ridiculousness of Meiya's stupid rich antics didn't break my suspension of disbelief since I assumed it was ridiculous to begin with. Kind of like the antics in Gurren Lagann. However, girls who define themselves via another person throw up red flags for me in real life. I honestly believe they're emotional time bombings ticking down (and in a way MLA proves this point).

Overall, I'd give it a C, but I didn't bother with the side routes.

MLU

 I found this one to be better executed than MLE and the contrast between light hearted Takeru with the serious world to make it even funnier. However, this almost didn't need to exist. There are only two important scenes that I can remember off the top of my head, Yuuko's explanation of the history of the world and the ending. I can't be sure how important Mt. Tengen was because I consistently chose any Meiya options in MLE, MLU, and MLA.

 The one other scene that stood out to me was the one about the games they play in this world. I found it to be well done. I also want to point out that I loved the execution of the history of this world. Yuuko's tone and the snappy delivery with the images is relentless. Bam! Bam! Bam! Bam! Loss after loss after loss. The goodbye at the end of the world also struck a cord with me especially when the girl is talking to her daughter about Earth and the girl's father.

Overall I'd say a B- or a C+.

MLA

 I felt this was rather slow paced until the coup d'etwa arc and then it was a roller coaster ride. The PSTD arc in the original world branch was one of the best parts of the game for me. This story is utterly relentless and did not give Takeru a single opportunity to take a break. Traumatic experiences build up one after one and he truly starts to grow into a man.

 I'm going to give props to the writers in that I felt that every battle was going to have horrific consequences for Takeru and his group. The BETA end up being one of the best aliens I've seen in sci-fi (not that I've seen/read too much). I also loved how much detail was in every operation. I really am impressed with how many minute details were put in.

 I also liked the theme of personal responsibility and what exactly that entails. It was hammered into Takeru so hard and despite him becoming a complete cry baby (I was wondering who cried more Takeru or Glenn Beck?) I respect him. I loved the flourish at the end that his admiration of their strength to be so hardened was countered by their admiration of his love and kindness he could have despite the terrible world they lived in.

 Speaking of endings, I hate the ending. Reset endings even if they're adjusted (Yuuhi doesn't die, Makoto's a girl, Kasumi gets a peaceful life) bug the hell out of me. Yes I know Kasumi still remembers and that the memories are buried in Takeru. It felt like all that character development Takeru went through was chucked out into the garbage can. It saddens me to hear that Altered Fable isn't that good. I really hoped that this story had a great conclusion.

 Another annoyance was the heroic sacrifices that the game employed. Isumi's and Mitsuki's were alright. I could see them working, but for the girls of 207B... no. It felt forced, idiotic, and suicidal. The one exception I would give to this is Meiya's. Her pleading for Takeru to shoot while her body was becoming a plaything of the BETA felt spot on. More like a mercy killing than a sacrifice, but the others... "We're going to do this so we won't distract Takeru!" I feel that their hiding it from him and then suddenly dying on him would be more distracting than working as a unit to make sure as many people as possible could make home.

 Now for the best scene in the entire game.
[spoiler]I'm serious. Don't spoil yourself. How it comes out of nowhere makes it even better. Play the game first.

[spoiler]
 Sumika's rape by the BETA was the best written scene in the entire game.

 As messed up as that sounds, I'm serious. They made it appealing in a twisted hedonistic way while at the same time chilling you to the bone. Sumika's narration of what they did to her and how her emotions changed from fear to lust to prove how black her heart had become was one of the most brilliant things I've read. I felt that her voice actress did an incredible delivery (My Japanese is limited, I can hold conversations with people but nothing in depth and my reading/writing is terrible so I can't be sure).
[/spoiler]
[/spoiler]

 One last thing, at the end the girls arguing with each other in the new world. A text file didn't pop up but when I listened to it, I think they were arguing about the seating arrangement of the class. Sumika and the Class Rep wanting it to be changed while Meiya and Yuuhi didn't.

 Overall I'd give it an A. The ending knocks it down from an A+.

[/spoiler]

 Wow, that was more tl;dr than I thought it would be. But I really want to thank you guys again for translating this.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Nagato on October 12, 2011, 04:29:24 pm
VICTORY AT LAST! (for *nix users anyway)

As of 7 hours ago, the bug that was causing Muvluv (and any other rUGP game) to crash in wine is now fixed. If you want it right now you can just fetch from wine-git. The next development build will be released in about 2 weeks so if you don't want to build wine yourself you can just get it then.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Nagato on October 21, 2011, 01:29:21 pm
Probably no one cares about this but Wine 1.3.31 is out now: http://www.winehq.org/announce/1.3.31

Muvluv will work with this version out of the box as long as you have the correct locale settings.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: mastermind5005 on November 25, 2011, 06:32:06 pm
it might just be me but the very last clip just before the credits didnt  translate did anyone else have this problem or was it not translated at all  and if so someone please translate and upload to youtube like the movies
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Ixrec on November 25, 2011, 07:32:13 pm
it might just be me but the very last clip just before the credits didnt  translate did anyone else have this problem or was it not translated at all  and if so someone please translate and upload to youtube like the movies

We made no effort to translate that because it's dozens and dozens of lines and nothing that actually matters to the story at all (it's basically just a bunch of random things from MLE happening all over again with slightly more characters). Any serious effort to get English lines in there would have just distracted from the fact that the whole thing just ended and you should be relaxing and soaking it all in instead of trying to figure out where in our little text file the voices are.

Admittedly, if we had a way of getting subtitles directly into MLA, we probably would've tl'd those lines. But we do not.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: JONJONAUG on December 03, 2011, 03:25:48 pm
Admittedly, if we had a way of getting subtitles directly into MLA, we probably would've tl'd those lines. But we do not.

Couldn't you have just done what you did with the other voice only parts in earlier chapters and include a link in the readme? Or even just provide a translation in the Readme?

I can get what's going on, but it just feels out of place when so much effort was put into everything else that the translation would just stop dead with only 90 seconds left.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Ixrec on December 03, 2011, 03:30:45 pm
Admittedly, if we had a way of getting subtitles directly into MLA, we probably would've tl'd those lines. But we do not.

Couldn't you have just done what you did with the other voice only parts in earlier chapters and include a link in the readme? Or even just provide a translation in the Readme?

I can get what's going on, but it just feels out of place when so much effort was put into everything else that the translation would just stop dead with only 90 seconds left.

Like I said in my previous post, in my opinion translating all of that stuff would have been more of a distraction than anything else.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Angelus on November 11, 2012, 01:46:16 pm
is compatible with windows 8?
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Ixrec on November 11, 2012, 02:05:46 pm
I have absolutely no idea, but considering the original MuvLuv broke in Win7 (though our hacker accidentally found out why and got rid of it for the patch), I wouldn't be surprised if ML or MLA broke in Win8.  Feel free to try though.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Bugg_bug on November 14, 2012, 12:43:10 am
So is there any Muv-Luv media that continues the story of Takeru in Alternative...or anything that continues the story in alternative at all? A lot of the stuff I see takes place parallel to the plot in the Alternative game or follows events that happened in unlimited.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Rinali on November 14, 2012, 12:51:03 am
There's Altered Fable, which is pretty close to what might've happened after everything turns back to normal. But it's really just MLE with MLA characters thrown in, and Takeru's back to his oblivious self, which is kind of sad after all the development in MLA.

If you're talking about what happens in the MLA world after the end of MLA, there's nothing like that. If you're talking about Takeru after MLA, [spoiler]there shouldn't be anything about him in that world since everybody forgets about him at the end.[/spoiler]
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Bugg_bug on November 14, 2012, 03:55:29 am
I was looking for stuff that happens in the MLA world after the end of MLA.

[spoiler]Buuuut it would be nice if Takeru got a "happier" ending. I cried manly tears after the end of that emotional rollercoaster[/spoiler]
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Angelus on November 16, 2012, 05:21:30 am
I have absolutely no idea, but considering the original MuvLuv broke in Win7 (though our hacker accidentally found out why and got rid of it for the patch), I wouldn't be surprised if ML or MLA broke in Win8.  Feel free to try though.

The both games works ok with Windows XP SP3 compatibility mode

Thanks :)
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: battlerwright7 on November 19, 2012, 04:38:39 pm
I just stated unlimited, at a few minutes into it, Taker all of a sudden had a voice actor.  However, a few minutes later, he didn't anymore.  Is this supposed to happen, or are my voice files messed up?  Is he supposed to be voiced?
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Ixrec on November 19, 2012, 06:47:43 pm
He's only voiced in a handful of scenes, mostly flashbacks.  That's actually very normal for VN protagonists these days.  So no, that's not a glitch or anything.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: battlerwright7 on November 23, 2012, 03:29:34 pm
I just started alternative, and few questions.

1.  Where can I find a walkthrough?  I can't seem to find one anywhere.  Do you need a walkthrough for alternative?  Are there routes, and if so is there a reccomended route order?

2.  When I go to fullscreen, most of the screen is covered in black because it doesn't use up the whole screen.  Is there any way to fix this so that fullscreen mode will use the whole screen?

3.  The game won't let me change text speed.  It is set to max, and I can't change it (the slider bar won't move).  Is it possible to change the text speed?  Also is there any way to move the text to the left side of the screen like the previous game?
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: battlerwright7 on November 23, 2012, 03:34:44 pm
another thing, whenever I change the text setting and hit ok, the changes don't stay.  (When I go back to the menu, they are the same as before).  Is it possible to change the setting at all?
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: battlerwright7 on November 23, 2012, 03:43:02 pm
Acutually the text settings (except text speed) will change if I just move their sliders, but if I try to use the reset option (so I can move the text speed to normal) and hit ok, then it does not save the changes. 
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Rinali on November 23, 2012, 05:18:30 pm
1) No, you don't need a walkthrough. You can 'pick a girl' depending on who you're nice to in the beginning, but it ultimately doesn't matter too much except for a few different lines scattered throughout the game and then one scene at the very end.

2) No, I believe Alternative is set to run at a specific resolution.

3) No, I don't think you can change the text speed. No idea what to say about moving the text to the left, though.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: kryptimus on January 08, 2013, 09:05:52 pm
Okay...
This game is ridiculous!!
The amount of work they put into CGs and sprites are a~MAZ~ing!  Even the small, insignificant people in the background images have been drawn with amazing detail.  Every single character (that I've met so far), regardless of how important (the only exception being Takeru for obvious reasons), has been given several sprites as a bare minimum.  In addition, they've all been completely voiced.
Excuse my French, but I'm fucking impressed so far.
I'm going back to my mancave to resume playing now.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: tab on February 20, 2013, 12:02:23 pm
I've got a problem with ML Extra - after finishing it with two main heroines (and thus unlocking Unlimited scenario) CG Gallery and whole "Extras" option in main menu is still locked, any ideas how to fix this?
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Ixrec on February 20, 2013, 12:07:20 pm
Finish Unlimited?
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: takuya on March 30, 2013, 06:22:39 pm
spoiler for alternative about VNDB tag

just finish Muv luv unlimited but was shocked when i saw the rape victim tag on Meiya for alternative. when i go into character for meiya  it says attempted rape. so can anyone clear me on this? is it unavoidable/always avoidable/depend on route? NOOObody touch her!!!she mine!!! lol

ps: does Amaterasu has any remote interest in translating alternative full eclipse when it release?
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Ixrec on March 30, 2013, 06:28:36 pm
There's only one version of that scene.

I certainly have "interest" but I simply don't know if there's a chance of me ever doing it or not.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: takuya on March 31, 2013, 04:05:06 am
so is it full on rape or only attempt and stop by MC?
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Ixrec on March 31, 2013, 04:58:47 am
The latter.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: takuya on March 31, 2013, 05:07:32 am
yay good news thanks XD.

to the dude before, here is the walkthrough http://gamerssquare.x.fc2.com/muvluv.htm
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Rinali on April 01, 2013, 10:15:32 pm
I wouldn't be too surprised if you tear up at certain points during the game. Or freak out at a certain event and go into depression for a few hours. Or fistpump in jubilation when the first major success happens. This game will probably make you emotional.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Ixrec on April 02, 2013, 02:25:40 am
You should really just read it if you're interested instead of asking weird questions.  The only thing you really need to know in advance is that Extra->Unlimited->Alternative in that order.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Vempele on April 02, 2013, 06:23:43 am
Muv-Luv plot summary (Extra & Unlimited): http://amaterasu.tindabox.net/mlplot/

Myself, I ctrl'd through Extra after the introductions and didn't feel it diminished anything in Unlimited. Alternative might have been even more awesome at some points if Extra had done anything to make me care about those characters; also, I probably should've at least read Extra's main endings.

OT: why do I have to type a captcha even though I'm a registered user? WHY IS THE CAPTCHA SO GODDAMN HARD?
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Sheeta on April 02, 2013, 11:11:49 pm
The plot summary is basically there for people who are gonna die soon/are too weak to slog through Extra and Unlimited. Alternative is several times better if you actually read them. (And most people who don't just go back and read them after Alt anyway, hoping for more awesome).
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Mazyrian on April 09, 2013, 06:05:14 pm
Meiya and Sumika are basically the same route, with the only difference being the ending (and their individual scenes, which are not so many).
And you need to clear both to unlock Unlimited.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Rinali on April 09, 2013, 09:28:44 pm
You must really be a moege person then. And if you like ML/MLU, MLA will knock your socks off.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Desufire on April 14, 2013, 04:17:11 am
Just started playing. Thinking I'm going to go for the Sumika route first.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Vempele on April 14, 2013, 04:58:27 am
Btw can anybody post a walkthrough of Alternative?
There is no walkthrough.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Vempele on April 14, 2013, 06:47:22 am
Brief branches. And, in some cases you have to take all the options anyway, you just decide the order ("Next I'll go see how <X> is doing").
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Arha on April 14, 2013, 09:37:30 am
So far as I know Sumika isn't very popular, so you're not alone in your opinion. I think what bothers a lot of people might even have been intentional: She's a satellite character for Takeru.

It took me about half a year to get to Alternative after it came out. After going through every route of Extra (I wanted to get all the foreshadowing) and Unlimited I was so burned out on Muv Luv that even when it came out almost immediately after I finished the first two games I couldn't continue.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Rinali on April 14, 2013, 11:39:35 am
For me, Extra and Unlimited were bearable. But then, I only read the bare minimum needed to start Alternative. As for the Sumika thing, I was more or less neutral; the one I didn't like in the beginning was Takeru >.>
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Ixrec on April 14, 2013, 12:26:49 pm
There are almost no choices in Alternative except for those copy-pasted from a segment of Unlimited it repeats which have no effect whatsoever on the otherwise completely linear story.  Thus there is absolutely nothing to put in a walkthrough.

Sumika and Meiya are both very popular.  There does seem to be a tendency for friends to like the same heroine though, so you're probably suffering confirmation bias.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Rinali on April 16, 2013, 10:44:00 am
He hasn't read it yet, but he says that he likely won't translate AF.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Vempele on April 16, 2013, 11:04:24 am
Besides, there's already a translation project for it. They've even released a partial patch. http://archive.foolz.us/a/thread/75462882
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Rinali on April 17, 2013, 12:51:15 am
Er wait, did you finish MLA?

[spoiler=MLA]
If I remember correctly, they never do. It's been a while since I read MLA though, so I might be wrong.
[/spoiler]
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Rinali on April 17, 2013, 01:06:22 am
There are more games, but none of them continue from where MLA left off in that universe.

I had that melancholic feeling you get when you finish a really good game - you know, when you don't want something to end because it's so good? Well, that and whatever I was feeling after [spoiler]basically everybody dies.[/spoiler]
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Ixrec on April 17, 2013, 02:24:42 am
For the record, none of us have read all the other MLA spinoffs so we have no idea what does or doesn't happen in the expanded universe.  I plan to read most of it at some point but I haven't yet.  I think Altered Fable is labeled as an MLA sequel on vndb (and timeline-wise I think it does follow MLA) but everyone who knows what's in it considers it a fandisc.

Also you missed a spoiler tag a few posts back.  Be careful.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: yeah321 on April 17, 2013, 06:10:49 am
Well, if it helps, mla spoiler
[spoiler]none of the stories in Chronicles has any sort of "conversation" with a beta as close as what happened in MLA.[/spoiler]
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Arha on April 17, 2013, 09:31:06 pm
I'm surprised that Sumika is actually popular with some people. I really can't think of anything I like about her.

[spoiler]I guess she made Meiya stand out as a great character more in MLA?[/spoiler]
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Sheeta on April 18, 2013, 03:55:02 am
Quote
I'm surprised that Sumika is actually popular with some people. I really can't think of anything I like about her.
You said that in the thread already, mate.

Less character bashing please. Sumika is a favourite of most of the staff, and Meiya is well loved too.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Arha on April 18, 2013, 03:20:04 pm
Sheeta: I was responding to Ixrec saying that she is popular because that surprised me. If I was going to bash her, I'd say why I didn't like her or I'd have said a lot more than I did. But anyway, I don't intend to keep talking about her.

[spoiler]I felt the situation was kind of contrived by virtue of the writers wanting to sell their 'death in battle' moral too hard. It kind of felt artificial and inorganic. Fortunately that mostly involved the minor characters. On the bright side, it was good to see more development from the cast with them finally really getting over longstanding issues.[/spoiler]

I'm not really sure whether I find the BETA to be good enemies or not. On the one hand, I find them a cool idea. On the other hand, I find them sort of lacking in real character and much more powerful than they really have any right to be.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: alexismaster on May 26, 2013, 06:17:59 pm
I just read Marimo's bad end in extra, so can we assume that takeru
[spoiler]died while having sex with marimo?[/spoiler]
[spoiler]The best way to die XD[/spoiler]
lol
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Desufire on May 28, 2013, 04:53:21 pm
His avatar is from Saya no Uta
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Moroplovac on June 15, 2013, 05:35:46 pm
Perhaps it really meant "shooting that beam" because IIRC the unit 00 fires that shigamadigle in a battle and gets knocked out or something. And by meaning "knocked out" I mean seeing things that shook it to the core.

(Hope I'm not being too spoilerish...)
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Sheeta on June 16, 2013, 05:18:07 am
That's an Evangelion reference, not a MLA one.
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: wonder on July 19, 2014, 11:14:32 pm
i saw that amaterasu gave Kimi ga Nozomu Eien an 8.5 (part of the muv luv universe), which it means it qualifies to be translated, is that right? do any for know if he plans to work on it bc i didn't see it in his future projects section. 
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Shokutria on September 02, 2014, 12:36:57 pm
i've a question about Muvluv's translation.

i've found that Muvluv (Extra/Unlimited) & Muvluv Alternative have Window 7 Support Edition , which have a 6.1 version of rUGP  and both of them has 16:9 resolution

the thing is, is there any way to put the translation patch from your original muvluv patches  into that version 7 support Edition?

Or else, can i request you for making translation for Muvluv & Muvluv Alternative (Window 7 Support Edition) ?
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Ixrec on September 08, 2014, 03:19:29 pm
Nope.  Every version of rUGP is incompatible with every other version.  Finding a hacker willing and capable of porting those patches to slightly improved versions of the games (or doing brand new hacks for those versions) is just not going to happen.

Though if you miraculously do find one I'd be happy to provide the scripts.
Title: squash outlet export phone
Post by: ufpagamop on November 17, 2015, 08:01:24 am
Uggs Black Friday (http://www.uggblackfriday.us.org/)
   Coach Outlet (http://www.coachonline-outlet.us.org/)
   Coach Outlet (http://www.coachonline-outlet.us.com/)
   Michael Kors Outlet (http://www.onlineoutletmichael-kors.us.com/)
   Michael Kors Outlet (http://www.michael-korsonlineoutlet.us.org/)
   Ugg Boots Black Friday (http://www.boot-uggs.us.com/)
   Michael Kors Black Friday (http://www.michaelkorsblackfriday.us.org/)
   Cheap Ugg Boots (http://www.boots-uggs.us.org/)
   Michael Kors Outlet (http://www.michael-korsonlineoutlet.us.org/)
   Michael Kors Black Friday (http://www.michaelkorsblackfriday.us.org/)
   Coach Black Friday (http://www.onlineoutlets-coach.us.com/)
   Michael Kors Outlet (http://www.michael-korsonlineoutlet.us.com/)
   Ugg Boots (http://www.boot-uggs.us.com/)
   Coach Outlet (http://www.outlet-coach.us.org/)
   Uggs Black Friday (http://www.boot-uggs.us.com/)
   Coach Outlet (http://www.coachonline-outlet.us.org/)
   锘縖url=http://www.coachonline-outlet.us.com/]Coach Outlet[/url]
   Uggs Black Friday (http://www.uggblackfriday.us.org/)
   Michael Kors Bags (http://www.onlineoutletmichael-kors.us.org/)
   Coach Outlet (http://www.coachonline-outlet.us.org/)
   Ugg Boots (http://www.boots-uggs.us.org/)
   Ugg Boots Black Friday (http://www.cheapbootsuggs.us.com/)
   Michael Kors Outlet (http://www.michael-korsonlineoutlet.us.org/)
   Michael Kors Outlet (http://www.michael-korsonlineoutlet.us.org/)
   Michael Kors Outlet Online (http://www.michaelkorsblackfriday.us.org/)
   Michael Kors Outlet Online (http://www.onlineoutletmichael-kors.us.com/)
   Cheap Ugg Boots (http://www.cheapbootsuggs.us.com/)
   Uggs Black Friday (http://www.uggblackfriday.us.org/)
   Michael Kors Outlet (http://www.michael-korsonlineoutlet.us.org/)
   Canada Goose Jackets (http://www.jackets-canadagoose.us.org/)
   Michael Kors Outlet (http://www.onlineoutletmichael-kors.us.org/)
   Michael Kors Black Friday (http://www.onlineoutletmichael-kors.us.org/)
   Coach Outlet (http://www.coachonline-outlet.us.com/)
   Canada Goose Jackets (http://www.jackets-canadagoose.us.org/)
   Michael Kors Outlet (http://www.onlineoutletmichael-kors.us.com/)
   Cheap Uggs (http://www.boots-uggs.us.org/)
   Ugg Boots (http://www.boot-uggs.us.org/)
   Coach Outlet (http://www.onlineoutlets-coach.us.com/)
   Michael Kors Outlet (http://www.michael-korsonlineoutlet.us.org/)
   Michael Kors Outlet (http://www.michael-korsonlineoutlet.us.org/)
   Coach Outlet Store Online (http://www.coachonline-outlet.us.com/)
   Michael Kors Black Friday (http://www.onlineoutletmichael-kors.us.com/)
   Cheap Ugg Boots (http://www.cheapbootsuggs.us.com/)
   Michael Kors Outlet (http://www.onlineoutletmichael-kors.us.org/)
   Cheap Ugg Boots (http://www.cheapbootsuggs.us.com/)
   Cheap Ugg Boots (http://www.cheapbootsuggs.us.com/)
   Coach Outlet (http://www.coachonline-outlet.us.com/)
   Michael Kors Outlet (http://www.onlineoutletmichael-kors.us.org/)
   Cheap Uggs (http://www.boot-uggs.us.com/)
   Cheap Ugg Boots (http://www.cheapbootsuggs.us.com/)
   Michael Kors Bags (http://www.onlineoutletmichael-kors.us.com/)
   Canada Goose Outlet (http://www.outlet-canadagoose.us.com/)
   Cheap Uggs (http://www.boot-uggs.us.org/)
   Ugg Boots (http://www.uggblackfriday.us.org/)
   Michael Kors Outlet (http://www.onlineoutletmichael-kors.us.com/)
   Ugg Boots (http://www.boot-uggs.us.com/)
   Ugg Boots (http://www.cheapbootsuggs.us.com/)
   Michael Kors Outlet (http://www.michael-korsonlineoutlet.us.com/)
   Michael Kors Bags (http://www.onlineoutletmichael-kors.us.com/)
   Coach Outlet (http://www.coachonline-outlet.us.org/)
   Uggs Black Friday (http://www.boots-uggs.us.org/)
   Coach Black Friday (http://www.coachonline-outlet.us.org/)
   Coach Outlet (http://www.outlet-coach.us.org/)
   Canada Goose Outlet (http://www.outlet-canadagoose.us.com/)
   Ugg Boots (http://www.boot-uggs.us.com/)
   Uggs (http://www.boots-uggs.us.org/)
   Michael Kors Outlet (http://www.onlineoutletmichael-kors.us.org/)
   Canada Goose Outlet (http://www.outlet-canadagoose.us.com/)
   Cheap Uggs (http://www.boot-uggs.us.org/)
   Canada Goose Outlet (http://www.outlet-canadagoose.us.com/)
   Ugg Boots (http://www.boot-uggs.us.com/)
   Coach Outlet (http://www.coachonline-outlet.us.org/)
   Coach Outlet (http://www.coachonline-outlet.us.org/)
   Cheap Uggs (http://www.uggblackfriday.us.org/)
   Coach Outlet Store Online (http://www.coachonline-outlet.us.org/)
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Meeniwo9471 on May 31, 2018, 01:03:34 am
jordan 11 win like 82 (http://www.jordan11swinlike82.us.com)
converse outlet (http://www.converseoutlet.us)
barbour (http://www.barbourjacket.us.com)
fitflops sale clearance (http://www.fitflops-sale-clearance.us)
birkenstocks (http://www.birkenstocks.us.org)
polo ralph lauren outlet (http://www.poralphlaurenfactorystore.us.com)
skechers outlet (http://www.skechersoutletonline.us)
kobe 12 (http://www.kobe12shoes.us)
nike clearance (http://www.nikeclearance.us.com)
asics gel lyte (http://www.asicsgellyte.us)
curry 4 (http://www.curry4s.us)
yeezy boost 350 v2 (http://www.yeezyboost350v2.us.org)
jordan 12 (http://www.jordan12s.us)
pandora charm (http://www.pandora-charm.us)
ecco shoes for men (http://www.eccoshoesformen.us)
jordan retro 12 (http://www.jordanretro12.us.com)
asics shoes (http://www.asicsrunning.us.com)
mbt shoes clearance (http://www.mbtshoes-clearance.us.com)
cheap nfl jerseys china (http://www.nflcheapjerseysfromchina.us.com)
yeezy shoes (http://www.yeezy--shoes.us.com)
canadian goose jacket (http://www.canadiangoosejacket.us.com)
win like 96 (http://www.winlike96.us.com)
louboutin shoes (http://www.louboutin-outlets.us)
longchamp bags (http://www.longchampbag.us)
red bottoms (http://www.redbottomslouboutin.us)
yeezy beluga 2.0 (http://www.yeezybelugav2.us)
nike air vapormax (http://www.airvapormax2018.us)
fitflops (http://www.fit-flops.us.org)
beats headphones (http://www.beats-headphones.us.com)
pandora bracelets clearance (http://www.pandorabraceletclearance.us.com)
calvin klein underwear (http://www.calvinklein-underwear.us)
nike air vapormax (http://www.air-vapor-max.us.com)
pandora bracelets clearance (http://www.pandorabraceletsclearance.us.com)
louboutin mens (http://www.louboutinmens.us)
mbt (http://www.mbt.us.org)
pandora rings (http://www.pandora-rings.us.com)
adidas nmd (http://www.adidas--nmd.us.com)
balenciaga shoes (http://www.balenciagasshoes.us.com)
fake yeezys (http://www.fake-yeezys.us)
the north face jackets (http://www.thenorthface-jackets.us)
pandora uk (http://www.pandora-sale.org.uk)
jordan 11 red (http://www.jordan11red.us)
rihanna puma (http://www.rihanna-puma.us.com)
the north face outlet online (http://www.thenorthfaceoutletonline.us.com)
yeezy zebra (http://www.yeezy-zebra.us)
air max plus (http://www.airmax-plus.us.com)
louboutin (http://www.louboutin-shoes.us.org)
timberland boots (http://www.timberlandsbootsuk.org.uk)
red bottom (http://www.redbottomsforwomen.us.com)
pandora jewelry (http://www.jewelrypandoras.us.com)
pandora sale (http://www.pandorasale.us.com)
yeezy boost 350 v2 (http://www.yeezysboost350-v2.us.com)
red jordan 11 (http://www.redjordan11.us.com)
timberland outlet stores (http://www.timberland-outletstores.us.com)
north face clearance (http://www.northfaceclearances.us)
jordan 11 red (http://www.jordan11-red.us.com)
yeezy boost 350 v2 (http://www.yeezysv2.us)
nike air max 2018 (http://www.nike-airmax2018.us)
kd 10 shoes (http://www.kd10-shoes.us)
christian louboutin mens shoes (http://www.christianlouboutinmensshoes.us.com)
ecco (http://www.ecco.us.org)
adidas yeezy (http://www.adidasyeezy.org.uk)
yeezy zebra v2 (http://www.yeezyzebrav2.us.com)
birkenstock shoes (http://www.birkenstocksshoes.us.com)
nike vapor max plus (http://www.vapormaxplus.us)
timberland outlet stores (http://www.timberlandoutletstores.us.com)
red bottom shoes for women (http://www.redbottomsshoesforwomen.us)
air jordan retro 11 (http://www.airjordansretro11.us)
ralph lauren sale clearance uk (http://www.ralphlaurenclearanceuk.org.uk)
calvin klein outlet (http://www.calvinkleinoutlet.us)
michael kors outlet clearance (http://www.michaelkorsoutletclearancestore.us.com)
coach handbags outlet (http://www.coachhandbagsoutletstores.us.com)
salvatore ferragamo shoes (http://www.salvatoreferragamo-shoes.us)
soccer cleats (http://www.soccer-cleats.us.com)
superdry uk (http://www.super-dry.org.uk)
fitflop (http://www.fitflopshoesclearance.us.com)
cheap nfl jerseys (http://www.cheapnfljerseysnfls.us.com)
pandora jewelry official site (http://www.pandorasjewelryofficialsite.us.com)
clarks shoes for women (http://www.clarksshoesforwomen.us)
adidas yeezy (http://www.adidas-yeezy.us.org)
supreme hoodie (http://www.supremehoodie.us)
yeezy boost (http://www.boostyeezy.us)
vapor max (http://www.vapor-max.us.org)
barbour jackets (http://www.barbourjacketsuk.org.uk)
timberland (http://www.timberlandshoesuk.org.uk)
vapor max (http://www.nike-airvapormax.us)
pandora (http://www.pandoraus.us.com)
jimmy choo outlet (http://www.jimmychoooutlets.us.com)
kobe bryant shoes (http://www.kobebryant-shoes.us.com)
pandora bracelet (http://www.pandorajewelrybracelet.us)
birkenstock sandals (http://www.birkenstockoutletsandals.us.com)
yeezy (http://www.yeezyuk.org.uk)
supremenewyork (http://www.supreme-newyork.us.com)
yeezy boost (http://www.yeezys-boost.us.com)
red bottom heels (http://www.redbottom-heels.us)
skechers uk (http://www.skechers-uk.org.uk)
nike factory store (http://www.nikefactorystores.us.com)
under armour clearance (http://www.underarmourclearance.us)
vapormax flyknit (http://www.vapormax-flyknit.us)
adidas outlet (http://www.adidasoutlets.us)
christian louboutin (http://www.christian-louboutins.org.uk)
timberland outlet (http://www.timberlandshoes-outlet.us)
fake rolex watches (http://www.fakerolexwatches.us.com)
under armour outlet online (http://www.underarmouroutletonline.us.com)
curry shoes (http://www.curry-shoes.us)
christian louboutin shoes (http://www.christianlouboutins-shoes.us.com)
coach outlet (http://www.coachoutletclearances.us.com)
michael kors handbags outlet (http://www.handbagsoutlet-michaelkors.us.com)
pandora ring (http://www.pandoraring.us.com)
vapormax plus (http://www.vapormaxplus.us.com)
air max plus (http://www.airmax-plus.us)
red bottom shoes (http://www.red-bottoms-shoes.us)
pandora (http://www.charms-pandora.org.uk)
curry 4 shoes (http://www.curry4s-shoes.us.com)
birkin bag (http://www.birkin-bag.us)
adidas outlet store (http://www.adidas-outletstore.us.com)
pandora earrings (http://www.pandoraearrings.us)
yeezy beluga (http://www.yeezy-beluga.us.com)
pandora jewelry (http://www.pandorasjewelrys.us.com)
beats wireless headphones (http://www.beatswirelessheadphones.org.uk)
red bottoms for men (http://www.redbottomsformen.us.com)
air max 97 (http://www.airmax97.org.uk)
pandora charms (http://www.pandoracharmsus.us)
asics running shoes (http://www.asics-running.us)
fitflop (http://www.fitflopus.us.com)
red bottom (http://www.red-bottom.us.org)
louboutin outlet (http://www.louboutinoutletus.us.com)
pandora bracelet (http://www.pandorajewelry-bracelet.us.com)
lebron 15 (http://www.lebronshoes15.us.com)
balenciaga triple s (http://www.balenciaga-triples.us)
pandora jewelry (http://www.pandorajewelryus.us)
adidas ultra boost (http://www.ultraboost-adidas.us.com)
canadian goose (http://www.canadian-goose.us.com)
adidas yeezy (http://www.adidasyeezy-shoes.us)
wholesale jerseys china (http://www.wholesalejerseyschinasale.us.com)
nike vapor max (http://www.vapormax-nike.us.com)
pandora jewelry (http://www.jewelry-pandora.org.uk)
huarache shoes (http://www.huarache-shoes.us)
pandora rings (http://www.pandora-ring.us.com)
jordan retro (http://www.jordans-retro.us.com)
lacoste polo shirts (http://www.lacoste-poloshirts.us.com)
pandora charms sale (http://www.pandoracharmsale.us)
kd 10 (http://www.kd10s.us.com)
louboutin shoes (http://www.louboutins-shoes.org.uk)
nike vapor max (http://www.vapormax-2018.us.com)
air max 2018 (http://www.airmax-2018.us.org)
beats headphones (http://www.beats-headphones.org.uk)
birkenstock outlet (http://www.birkenstocks-outlet.us.com)
kyrie irving shoes (http://www.kyrieirving-shoes.us)
timberland shoes (http://www.timberland-shoes.us.org)
ferragamo shoes (http://www.ferragamoshoesoutlets.us.com)
fitflop sandals (http://www.fitflop-sandals.us.com)
pandora jewelry (http://www.pandoras-jewelry.us.com)
beats wireless (http://www.beatswireless.us.com)
blue tint yeezy (http://www.bluetint.us)
north face uk (http://www.northface-uk.org.uk)
adidas yeezy boost (http://www.adidas-yeezys.us)
pandora charms (http://www.pandoras-charms.us.com)
jordan 11 win like 96 (http://www.jordan11winlike96.us.com)
ralph lauren factory store (http://www.ralphlaurenfactorystore.us)
skechers shoes (http://www.skechers-sale.us.com)
fake yeezy (http://www.fakeyeezy.us.com)
birkenstock outlet (http://www.birkenstock-outlet.us.org)
pandora charms (http://www.charmspandora.org.uk)
louboutin boots (http://www.louboutin-boots.us)
christian louboutin men (http://www.christianlouboutinmens.us.com)
north face jackets (http://www.north-face-jackets.us.com)
salvatore ferragamo (http://www.salvatore-ferragamo.us.org)
nike factory (http://www.nike-factory.us.com)
win like 82 (http://www.airjordan11swinlike82.us)
pandora bracelet charms  (http://www.pandorabraceletscharms.us.com)
fenty puma (http://www.pumafentyshoes.us.com)
lebron 15 shoes (http://www.lebron15shoes.us)
canada goose jackets (http://www.canadagoosejacketoutlet.us)
red bottoms louboutin (http://www.redbottomslouboutin.us.com)
nike outlet online (http://www.nike-outletonline.us.com)
calvin klein online (http://www.calvinkleinonline.us.com)
birkin bags (http://www.birkinbags.us.com)
cheap nike (http://www.cheapnike.us.com)
pandora jewelry outlet (http://www.pandora-jewelryoutlets.us)
pandora charms (http://www.pandorajewelry-store.us.com)
pandora bracelet (http://www.pandorasbracelet.us.com)
nike outlet store (http://www.nike-stores.us.com)
barbour uk (http://www.barbour-uk.org.uk)
ultra boost (http://www.ultraboost.us.org)
replica watches (http://www.bestreplicawatches.us.com)
birkenstock sandals (http://www.birkenstocksandals-outlet.us.com)
nike uk (http://www.airmax-uk.org.uk)
nike kyrie (http://www.nike-kyrie.us)
red bottom shoes (http://www.redchristianlouboutinshoes.us.com)
cheap soccer cleats (http://www.cheapsoccercleats.us.com)
pandora jewelry 70 off clearance (http://www.pandorajewelry70offclearance.us.com)
skechers shoes (http://www.skechers-shoes.org.uk)
converse shoes (http://www.converseoutletstores.us.com)
lacoste outlet (http://www.lacosteoutletstores.us)
kyrie 4 (http://www.kyrie4-shoes.us.com)
red 11s (http://www.red11s.us.com)
fake yeezy boost (http://www.fakeyeezyboost.us.com)
nike air max plus (http://www.nikeairmaxplus.us.com)
longchamp handbags (http://www.handbags-longchamp.us.com)
pandora jewelry official site (http://www.pandorajewelrysite.us.com)
yeezy blue tint (http://www.bluetintyeezy.us.com)
wholesale nfl jerseys (http://www.wholesalenfljerseyscheapnfl.us.com)
pandora necklace (http://www.pandora-necklace.us)
louboutin shoes (http://www.louboutins-shoes.us.com)
nmd r1 (http://www.nmd-r1.us.com)
kyrie 3 (http://www.kyrie3s.us.com)
canada goose sale (http://www.canadgoosesale.us.com)
clarks shoes (http://www.clarkshoes.us.com)
barbour jackets (http://www.barbourjackets.us)
huaraches nike (http://www.huarachenike.us.com)
valentino shoes (http://www.valentino-shoes.us)
replica rolex (http://www.replica-rolex.us.com)
supreme clothing (http://www.supreme-clothings.us.com)
timberland uk (http://www.timberland-uk.org.uk)
goyard (http://www.goyard.us.org)
asics gel (http://www.asics-gel.us.com)
vapor max (http://www.vapormax.us.org)
jimmy choo shoes (http://www.jimmychooshoessale.us)
north face jackets clearance (http://www.northfacejackets-clearance.us.com)
gym red 11 (http://www.gymred11.us.com)
valentino outlet (http://www.valentino-outletstore.us.com)
air max 2018 (http://www.air-max-2018.us.com)
goyard bags (http://www.goyard-bags.us.com)
balenciaga sneakers (http://www.balenciaga-sneakers.us)
pandora charms (http://www.pandora-charms-uk.org.uk)
clarks shoes for women (http://www.clarksshoesforwomen.us.com)
yeezy boost 350 v2 (http://www.yeezy350boost-v2.us)
rihanna fenty puma (http://www.rihannafenty.us.com)
2018.0531W
Title: Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
Post by: Meeniwo9471 on June 06, 2018, 01:37:40 am
mbt shoes clearance (http://www.mbtshoes-clearance.us.com)
jordan 12 (http://www.jordan12s.us)
pandora charms sale (http://www.pandoracharmsale.us)
fake yeezy boost (http://www.fakeyeezyboost.us.com)
pandora ring (http://www.pandoraring.us.com)
supreme hoodie (http://www.supremehoodie.us)
valentino outlet (http://www.valentino-outletstore.us.com)
adidas nmd (http://www.adidas--nmd.us.com)
birkenstock (http://www.birkenstock-shoes.us.org)
canadian goose (http://www.canadian-goose.us.com)
pandora bracelet (http://www.pandorasbracelet.us.com)
air max plus (http://www.airmax-plus.us.com)
red bottom shoes (http://www.red-bottoms-shoes.us)
curry 4 shoes (http://www.curry4s-shoes.us.com)
nike outlet online (http://www.nike-outletonline.us.com)
jordan retro (http://www.jordans-retro.us.com)
off white shoes (http://www.offwhiteshoes.us)
wholesale nfl jerseys (http://www.wholesalenfljerseyscheapnfl.us.com)
fitflops sale clearance (http://www.fitflops-sale-clearance.us)
balenciaga triple s (http://www.balenciaga-triples.us)
ferragamo shoes (http://www.ferragamoshoesoutlets.us.com)
yeezy beluga (http://www.yeezy-beluga.us.com)
off white nike (http://www.offwhitenike.us)
jordan 11 red (http://www.jordan11red.us)
celine (http://www.celine.us.org)
kd shoes (http://www.kdshoes.com.co)
calvin klein online (http://www.calvinkleinonline.us.com)
adidas yeezy (http://www.adidasyeezy-shoes.us)
birkenstock sandals (http://www.birkenstockoutletsandals.us.com)
kyrie 3 (http://www.kyrie-3.us.com)
birkenstock outlet (http://www.birkenstocks-outlet.us.com)
red bottoms (http://www.redbottomslouboutin.us)
nike kyrie (http://www.nike-kyrie.us)
yeezy boost 350 v2 (http://www.yeezyboost350v2.us.org)
adidas ultra boost (http://www.ultraboost-adidas.us.com)
pandora jewelry official site (http://www.pandorasjewelryofficialsite.us.com)
birkenstock sandals (http://www.birkenstockssandals.us.com)
fake yeezys (http://www.fake-yeezys.us)
pandora charms (http://www.pandoracharmsus.us)
kate spade outlet (http://www.katespade-handbag.us)
red bottoms louboutin (http://www.redbottomslouboutin.us.com)
red bottom heels (http://www.redbottom-heels.us)
salvatore ferragamo shoes (http://www.salvatoreferragamo-shoes.us)
michael kors handbags outlet (http://www.handbagsoutlet-michaelkors.us.com)
louboutin outlet (http://www.louboutinoutletus.us.com)
asics shoes (http://www.asicsrunning.us.com)
yeezy boost (http://www.boostyeezy.us)
louboutin mens (http://www.louboutinmens.us)
nike air max 2018 (http://www.nike-airmax2018.us)
michael kors outlet clearance (http://www.michaelkorsoutletclearancestore.us.com)
puma outlet (http://www.puma-outlets.us.com)
red 11s (http://www.red11s.us.com)
vapormax plus (http://www.vapormaxplus.us.com)
ecco (http://www.ecco.us.org)
kyrie 3 basketball shoes (http://www.kyrie3basketballshoes.us)
fitflop (http://www.fitflopus.us.com)
kate spade handbags (http://www.kate-spade-handbags.us.com)
jordan 11 red (http://www.jordan11-red.us.com)
valentino shoes (http://www.valentino-shoes.us)
mbt (http://www.mbt.us.org)
fenty puma (http://www.pumafentyshoes.us.com)
christian louboutin men (http://www.christianlouboutinmens.us.com)
louboutin shoes (http://www.louboutin-outlets.us)
under armour clearance (http://www.underarmourclearance.us)
puma shoes (http://www.pumashoes.us.org)
vans (http://www.vans-sale.us)
ultra boost (http://www.ultraboost.us.org)
louboutin (http://www.louboutin-shoes.us.org)
asics gel (http://www.asics-gel.us.com)
skechers shoes (http://www.skechers-sale.us.com)
kyrie 4 confetti (http://www.kyrie4confetti.com.co)
canada goose sale (http://www.canadgoosesale.us.com)
fake rolex watches (http://www.fakerolexwatches.us.com)
pandora bracelets clearance (http://www.pandorabraceletsclearance.us.com)
ecco shoes for men (http://www.eccoshoesformen.us)
coach handbags outlet (http://www.coachhandbagsoutletstores.us.com)
air max 97 ultra (http://www.airmax97ultra.us)
birkenstock outlet (http://www.birkenstock-outlet.us.org)
red bottom shoes for women (http://www.redbottomsshoesforwomen.us)
rihanna fenty puma (http://www.rihannafenty.us.com)
nike clearance (http://www.nikeclearance.us.com)
canada goose jackets (http://www.canadagoosejacketoutlet.us)
nike clearance (http://www.nikeclearancestore.us.com)
nike cortez (http://www.nike-cortez.us.com)
adidas yeezy (http://www.adidas-yeezy.us.org)
pandora jewelry official site (http://www.pandorajewelrysite.us.com)
the north face outlet online (http://www.thenorthfaceoutletonline.us.com)
goyard (http://www.goyard.us.org)
nike air vapormax (http://www.airvapormax2018.us)
curry shoes (http://www.curryshoes.com.co)
win like 82 (http://www.airjordan11swinlike82.us)
rihanna puma (http://www.rihanna-puma.us.com)
vapor max (http://www.vapor-max.us.org)
curry 4 (http://www.curry4s.us)
coach factory outlet (http://www.factory-coach.us.com)
michael kors canada (http://www.canada-michaelkors.com)
supremenewyork (http://www.supreme-newyork.us.com)
yeezy boost 350 v2 (http://www.yeezy350boost-v2.us)
kd 10 shoes (http://www.kd10-shoes.us)
nike air vapormax (http://www.air-vapor-max.us.com)
the north face jackets (http://www.thenorthface-jackets.us)
curry shoes (http://www.curry-shoes.us)
vapor max (http://www.vapormax.us.org)
wholesale jerseys china (http://www.wholesalejerseyschinasale.us.com)
nike vapor max plus (http://www.vapormaxplus.us)
birkenstock sandals (http://www.birkenstocksandals-outlet.us.com)
adidas outlet online (http://www.adidas-outletonline.us.com)
yeezy boost 350 v2 (http://www.yeezysboost350-v2.us.com)
pandora bracelets clearance (http://www.pandorabraceletclearance.us.com)
nike air max plus (http://www.nikeairmaxplus.us.com)
fitflop sandals (http://www.fitflop-sandals.us.com)
yeezy zebra (http://www.yeezy-zebra.us)
air max 2018 (http://www.airmax-2018.us.org)
birkenstock shoes (http://www.birkenstocksshoes.us.com)
yeezy shoes (http://www.yeezy--shoes.us.com)
balenciaga sneakers (http://www.balenciaga-sneakers.us)
yeezy boost 350 v2 (http://www.yeezyboostv2.ca)
yeezy boost 350 v2 (http://www.yeezy350v2-boost.us)
barbour jackets (http://www.barbourjackets.us)
converse outlet (http://www.converseoutlet.us)
pandora sale (http://www.pandorasale.us.com)
blue tint yeezy (http://www.bluetint.us)
adidas outlet store (http://www.adidas-outletstore.us.com)
beats wireless (http://www.beatswireless.us.com)
air max 97 silver bullet (http://www.airmax97silver.us)
skechers outlet (http://www.skechersoutletonline.us)
curry 4 (http://www.curry4.us.org)
kobe bryant shoes (http://www.kobebryant-shoes.us.com)
fitflop (http://www.fitflopshoesclearance.us.com)
north face jackets (http://www.north-face-jackets.us.com)
louboutin shoes (http://www.louboutins-shoes.us.com)
polo ralph lauren outlet (http://www.poralphlaurenfactorystore.us.com)
pandora jewelry (http://www.pandoras-jewelry.us.com)
tory burch outlet (http://www.toryburchoutletus.us)
jordan 11 win like 82 (http://www.jordan11swinlike82.us.com)
air max 97 (http://www.airmax97.org.uk)
red bottom shoes (http://www.redchristianlouboutinshoes.us.com)
pandora jewelry (http://www.pandorasjewelrys.us.com)
adidas outlet (http://www.adidas-outlets.us)
nike kyrie 4 (http://www.nikekyrie-4.us)
coach outlet online (http://www.coachfactoryoutletonlinestore.us.org)
lacoste polo shirts (http://www.lacoste-poloshirts.us.com)
celine handbags (http://www.celine-handbags.us.com)
gym red 11 (http://www.gymred11.us.com)
red bottoms for men (http://www.redbottomsformen.us.com)
curry basketball shoes (http://www.currybasketballshoes.us.com)
longchamp handbags (http://www.handbags-longchamp.us.com)
cheap nfl jerseys (http://www.cheapnfljerseysnfls.us.com)
yeezy shoes (http://www.yeezy350v2shoes.us.com)
pandora (http://www.pandoraus.us.com)
longchamp bags (http://www.longchampbag.us)
north face jackets clearance (http://www.northfacejackets-clearance.us.com)
pandora necklace (http://www.pandora-necklace.us)
adidas outlet (http://www.adidasoutlets.us)
pandora canada (http://www.pandorascanada.ca)
off white vapormax (http://www.offwhitevapormax.us)
birkin bags (http://www.birkinbags.us.com)
cheap nike (http://www.cheapnike.us.com)
fitflops (http://www.fit-flops.us.org)
pandora earrings (http://www.pandoraearrings.us)
barbour (http://www.barbourjacket.us.com)
clarks shoes for women (http://www.clarksshoesforwomen.us.com)
kd 10 (http://www.kd10shoes.com.co)
cheap nfl jerseys china (http://www.nflcheapjerseysfromchina.us.com)
pandora bracelet charms  (http://www.pandorabraceletscharms.us.com)
curry 4 shoes (http://www.curry4shoes.com.co)
huarache shoes (http://www.huarache-shoes.us)
christian louboutin mens shoes (http://www.christianlouboutinmensshoes.us.com)
jordan retro 12 (http://www.jordanretro12.us.com)
michael kors outlet (http://www.michaelkorscanada-outlets.ca)
huaraches nike (http://www.huarachenike.us.com)
timberland outlet stores (http://www.timberlandoutletstores.us.com)
pandora jewelry outlet (http://www.pandora-jewelryoutlets.us)
lacoste outlet (http://www.lacosteoutletstores.us)
pandora bracelet (http://www.pandorajewelry-bracelet.us.com)
yeezy blue tint (http://www.bluetintyeezy.us.com)
kd 10 (http://www.kd10s.us.com)
clarks shoes (http://www.clarkshoes.us.com)
canadian goose jacket (http://www.canadiangoosejacket.us.com)
nike vapor max (http://www.vapormax-nike.us.com)
adidas yeezy (http://www.adidasyeezys.ca)
nike outlet store online (http://www.nikeoutletstoresonline.us)
soccer cleats (http://www.soccer-cleats.us.com)
air jordan retro 11 (http://www.airjordansretro11.us)
cheap soccer cleats (http://www.cheapsoccercleats.us.com)
kevin durant shoes (http://www.kevindurantshoes.com.co)
nmd r1 (http://www.nmd-r1.us.com)
nike uptempo (http://www.nikeuptempo.us.com)
air max 2018 (http://www.air-max-2018.us.com)
lebron 15 shoes (http://www.lebron15shoes.us)
vans store (http://www.vans-store.us.com)
nike factory (http://www.nike-factory.us.com)
nike outlet store (http://www.nike-stores.us.com)
red bottom (http://www.redbottomsforwomen.us.com)
uptempo (http://www.airuptempo.us)
asics gel lyte (http://www.asicsgellyte.us)
supreme clothing (http://www.supreme-clothings.us.com)
yeezy beluga 2.0 (http://www.yeezybelugav2.us)
kyrie 3 (http://www.kyrie3s.us.com)
red jordan 11 (http://www.redjordan11.us.com)
jordan 11 win like 96 (http://www.jordan11winlike96.us.com)
vapormax flyknit (http://www.vapormax-flyknit.us)
pandora jewelry 70 off clearance (http://www.pandorajewelry70offclearance.us.com)
vapor max (http://www.nike-airvapormax.us)
coach outlet (http://www.coachoutletclearances.us.com)
adidas yeezy boost (http://www.adidas-yeezys.us)
under armour outlet online (http://www.underarmouroutletonline.us.com)
pandora canada (http://www.pandorascanada.com)
yeezy boost 350 v2 (http://www.yeezysv2.us)
nike factory store (http://www.nikefactorystores.us.com)
beats headphones (http://www.beats-headphones.us.com)
pandora bracelet (http://www.pandorajewelrybracelet.us)
win like 96 (http://www.winlike96.us.com)
kobe 12 (http://www.kobe12shoes.us)
louboutin boots (http://www.louboutin-boots.us)
pandora rings (http://www.pandora-rings.us.com)
replica watches (http://www.bestreplicawatches.us.com)
kyrie 4 (http://www.kyrie4-shoes.us.com)
kyrie 4 (http://www.kyrie4-shoes.us)
yeezy boost (http://www.yeezys-boost.us.com)
asics running shoes (http://www.asics-running.us)
pandora charms (http://www.pandorajewelry-store.us.com)
salvatore ferragamo (http://www.salvatore-ferragamo.us.org)
jimmy choo outlet (http://www.jimmychoooutlets.us.com)
coach outlet store (http://www.coachoutletfactory-store.us)
fake yeezy (http://www.fakeyeezy.us.com)
yeezy zebra v2 (http://www.yeezyzebrav2.us.com)
air max 97 (http://www.airmax97.us.org)
cortez (http://www.cortezshoes.us)
timberland shoes (http://www.timberland-shoes.us.org)
kyrie 4 confetti (http://www.kyrie4confetti.us.com)
balenciaga shoes (http://www.balenciagasshoes.us.com)
christian louboutin shoes (http://www.christianlouboutins-shoes.us.com)
kyrie irving shoes (http://www.kyrieirving-shoes.us)
clarks shoes for women (http://www.clarksshoesforwomen.us)
pandora rings (http://www.pandora-ring.us.com)
replica rolex (http://www.replica-rolex.us.com)
red bottom (http://www.red-bottom.us.org)
ralph lauren factory store (http://www.ralphlaurenfactorystore.us)
jimmy choo shoes (http://www.jimmychooshoessale.us)
goyard bags (http://www.goyard-bags.us.com)
calvin klein underwear (http://www.calvinklein-underwear.us)
off white jordan (http://www.offwhitejordan.us)
pandora charms (http://www.pandoracharm.ca)
pandora charm (http://www.pandora-charm.us)
air max plus (http://www.airmax-plus.us)
north face clearance (http://www.northfaceclearances.us)
tory burch handbags (http://www.toryburchhandbag.us.com)
converse shoes (http://www.converseoutletstores.us.com)
calvin klein outlet (http://www.calvinkleinoutlet.us)
nike kd (http://www.nikekd.us.com)
birkenstocks (http://www.birkenstocks.us.org)
timberland outlet stores (http://www.timberland-outletstores.us.com)
pandora jewelry (http://www.pandorajewelryus.us)
timberland outlet (http://www.timberlandshoes-outlet.us)
nike vapor max (http://www.vapormax-2018.us.com)
pandora charms (http://www.pandoras-charms.us.com)
lebron 15 (http://www.lebronshoes15.us.com)
fenty puma (http://www.fenty-puma.us)
birkin bag (http://www.birkin-bag.us)
pandora jewelry (http://www.jewelrypandoras.us.com)
yeezy (http://www.yeezyshoesca.com)
20180606 linlijun b