Author Topic: Muv Luv: General Discussion  (Read 216830 times)

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Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
« Reply #30 on: February 02, 2010, 03:21:11 pm »
Cool.


By the way, I'd heard that the game engines for the original Muv-Luv and Alternative are different - and that the all-ages version of Muv-Luv was re-done to work on Alternative's engine.

Does anyone here know if this is true?

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Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
« Reply #31 on: February 02, 2010, 03:57:26 pm »
Thanks for the clarification.


(In case anyone is interested, I put a thread discussing non-story merchandise elsewhere. I wasn't sure if there should be an additional thread to discuss the rest of the Muv-Luv franchise story-wise, such as Total Eclipse and The Euro Front, however. It's not that big a deal right now, but eventually it might be useful to deal with these stories separately from what will be in Extra/Unlimited, Alternative and Altered Fable.)
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Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
« Reply #32 on: February 02, 2010, 04:26:31 pm »
This forum is nowhere near as formal as you seem to believe. Just make a thread whenever you want one and we'll move it if we think it belongs elsewhere. They'll all end up off-topic within the first two pages anyway.
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Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
« Reply #33 on: February 02, 2010, 04:48:00 pm »
I'll bear that in mind, thank you.
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Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
« Reply #34 on: February 02, 2010, 05:41:31 pm »
The original (what we're working on for EX/UL) runs in 5.5 while Alternative runs on 5.7. I'm not sure how big of a difference it is between Alternative and EX/UL all ages but the stuff probably wouldn't work out of the box so it would need to be redone a bit. Even with that all done, there would still be problems when it comes to porting the 5.5 translation to a different engine because rUGP doesn't have internal filenames, so I'm using the offset in the rio file as the filename, which would change per game.

It's not something I'd really be willing to work on since it's a lot of work.

Edit: Just installed the all ages version and alternative to check engine versions. They are all different so it would require more hacking.

Muv-Luv 18+ - rUGP 5.60.10
Muv-Luv All-Ages - rUGP 5.72.09
Muv-Luv Alternative 18+ - rUGP 5.70.18
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Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
« Reply #35 on: February 03, 2010, 12:05:50 pm »
I see.


With granulation as fine as that, I wouldn't be surprised if it turned out that the all-ages take on Alternative was different again...
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Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
« Reply #36 on: February 03, 2010, 09:55:14 pm »
Gonna translate it all? I'm a little shocked.

I definitely recall saying you'd change your mind and translate it all after you played Alt, but I honestly didn't think you'd actually do it. Well that's awesome though.

I'm glad it isn't the all-ages version anyways, considering they tone down some of the impact scenes, and even remove one completely. The only "plus" is more voicing for Takeru, which is far from a plus for me.

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Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
« Reply #37 on: February 04, 2010, 12:05:21 am »
Since the MuvLuv project will take a while, I think it would make the most sense to finish playing 11eyes and Kimi ga Nozomu Eien in-between translating the MuvLuv games.  If Ixrec likes them enough for translation, he could translate them in-between MuvLuv games.  Example of translation order:

-MuvLuv Extra
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-MuvLuv Alternative

This would please all of the fans and would give variety to anyone here that isn't a MuvLuv fan.  I think this setup would make everyone happy.


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Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
« Reply #38 on: February 04, 2010, 12:08:43 am »
Just give up already.

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Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
« Reply #39 on: February 04, 2010, 12:13:06 am »
Just give up already.

No~ ;)

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Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
« Reply #40 on: February 04, 2010, 01:29:50 am »
Since the MuvLuv project will take a while, I think it would make the most sense to finish playing 11eyes and Kimi ga Nozomu Eien in-between translating the MuvLuv games.  If Ixrec likes them enough for translation, he could translate them in-between MuvLuv games.  Example of translation order:

-MuvLuv Extra
-[KGNE/11eyes]
-MuvLuv Unlimited
-[KGNE/11eyes]
-MuvLuv Alternative

This would please all of the fans and would give variety to anyone here that isn't a MuvLuv fan.  I think this setup would make everyone happy.
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Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
« Reply #41 on: February 04, 2010, 12:04:18 pm »
There seems to be a serious underestimation of the length of said games and an overestimation of how long I would want a side project to be. The point of a side project would be simply to give me a short (maybe a month or less) break from the main project without delaying it much.
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Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
« Reply #42 on: February 04, 2010, 01:14:59 pm »
Poll for the side project? ;D LOL
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Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
« Reply #43 on: February 04, 2010, 01:17:31 pm »
Then how long is Katahane ? (Is it as short as i heard ?)
Unfortunately the translation has stopped...
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Re: Muv Luv: General Discussion
« Reply #44 on: February 04, 2010, 01:28:37 pm »
Then how long is Katahane ? (Is it as short as i heard ?)
Unfortunately the translation has stopped...

It has? Lame.

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Its sequel, Myth, actually is one of the games on my list of super-short VNs to try out.
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